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2021-03-08 7:29:35 PM  
They were talking about that on the news. Looks like something to check out.
 
2021-03-08 7:43:15 PM  
I was certainly impressed by those women. Look like fearsome warriors.
 
2021-03-08 7:44:19 PM  

cretinbob: They were talking about that on the news. Looks like something to check out.


The Hollywood adaptation will star Emma Stone and Elizabeth Olsen, with Chris Pratt as their commander. Tiffany Haddish will play the maid.
 
2021-03-08 9:04:30 PM  
Pretty sure they will get their pound if flesh for genital mutilation suffered.
 
2021-03-08 10:26:34 PM  
They do make some amazing yogurt.
 
2021-03-08 11:54:30 PM  
Hell yeah men get em with those probiotics
 
2021-03-08 11:57:02 PM  
Are they hot?
 
2021-03-09 12:02:08 AM  
Go ahead...
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...fight like a girl!
 
2021-03-09 12:04:18 AM  
Da'esh: HEY WE'RE REPUBLICANS
 
2021-03-09 12:04:37 AM  
Everyone deserves the right to self determination.
 
2021-03-09 12:04:45 AM  
Good on them.
Shoot all of ISIS in their pathetic faces.
 
2021-03-09 12:06:56 AM  
I read as much as I could, but... it was very poorly written.
 
2021-03-09 12:08:29 AM  

0z79: I read as much as I could, but... it was very poorly written.


For the shallow: NO, that doesn't mean I disagree with the content of the article. It means that I think the article should meet certain professional standards, and it doesn't, and that's a shame.
 
2021-03-09 12:11:31 AM  
While the whole smearing bullets with bacon grease is nonsense, I feel like I read somewhere that ISIS can't go to heaven if they are killed by a girl because of one of their Incel rules.

/what ever happened to the axe guy?
 
2021-03-09 12:15:57 AM  
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2021-03-09 12:17:54 AM  

lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]


I respect you, but... context?
 
2021-03-09 12:22:03 AM  
One of the lovely things about these female warriors is that they were able to weaponize the strain of fundamentalist Islam that most members of  ISIS are.  The strain ofilitant Salafist Islam ISIS adheres to holds that if you are killed by a woman that is not a jihadi/martyr's death. Which means no express ticket to Paradise no 72 virgins etc etc.

So after a while when word got around on the other side but these female Kurdish commandos were leading an attack, sometimes the bad guys would simply abandon their positions rather than risk fighting and getting killed by them
 
2021-03-09 12:22:13 AM  
The Kurds were doing that for years, and we did our best to starve and ignore them until they didn't exist because they were too, you know, democratic and independent. So we spent years trying to find a bunch of corrupt bastards who would stay bought. But that didn't work. So we reluctantly said "Okay, we'll support Kurds in Syria a little as long as they don't go getting uppity and thinking they can object to genocide at the hands of our good friends in Iraq and Turkey."

And they did a hell of a job.

But the moment Putin's Rent Boy was in the White House we betrayed them to the Turks and Syrians and abandoned them. But yay us for cheering a few people doing what the Kurdish resistance was doing all that time.
 
2021-03-09 12:28:28 AM  

lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]


I respect HER, but... context?
 
2021-03-09 12:29:27 AM  

anuran: The Kurds were doing that for years, and we did our best to starve and ignore them until they didn't exist because they were too, you know, democratic and independent. So we spent years trying to find a bunch of corrupt bastards who would stay bought. But that didn't work. So we reluctantly said "Okay, we'll support Kurds in Syria a little as long as they don't go getting uppity and thinking they can object to genocide at the hands of our good friends in Iraq and Turkey."

And they did a hell of a job.

But the moment Putin's Rent Boy was in the White House we betrayed them to the Turks and Syrians and abandoned them. But yay us for cheering a few people doing what the Kurdish resistance was doing all that time.


Yeah, I hope we can help them again, but once bitten twice shy. I wouldn't blame them if they never trusted us again.
 
2021-03-09 12:30:14 AM  

0z79: 0z79: I read as much as I could, but... it was very poorly written.

For the shallow: NO, that doesn't mean I disagree with the content of the article. It means that I think the article should meet certain professional standards, and it doesn't, and that's a shame.


It's a transcript of a radio spot blurbing for the book.  My dad just dropped it off for me to read on Saturday.

I should get on that.
 
2021-03-09 12:32:11 AM  
Good I hope they scare the shiat out of ISIS and hope they make them cry. Aim for the crotch ladies, that will really scare them.
 
2021-03-09 12:39:12 AM  

moothemagiccow: Hell yeah men get em with those probiotics


I'm no longer using the amateur phylactics

/I've moved up to prophylactics
 
2021-03-09 12:46:37 AM  

0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?


That looks to be an M80 made by China but I, too, don't understand the context.
I've never fired one.  Is it crap?
 
2021-03-09 12:54:33 AM  

C18H27NO3: 0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?

That looks to be an M80 made by China but I, too, don't understand the context.
I've never fired one.  Is it crap?


0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?


Fark Headline: ISIS: "We will enslave and rape women" Daughters of Kobani: "You and whose army?"

She's looking at the Isis fighter (and his you-know-what) and saying: gonna rape me? with that? really? kinda laughing...
That was the subject, right?
 
2021-03-09 12:56:19 AM  
The new book
because this is 2014

guess i was asleep for a bit...
 
2021-03-09 12:58:20 AM  

anuran: The Kurds were doing that for years, and we did our best to starve and ignore them until they didn't exist because they were too, you know, democratic and independent. So we spent years trying to find a bunch of corrupt bastards who would stay bought. But that didn't work. So we reluctantly said "Okay, we'll support Kurds in Syria a little as long as they don't go getting uppity and thinking they can object to genocide at the hands of our good friends in Iraq and Turkey."

And they did a hell of a job.

But the moment Putin's Rent Boy was in the White House we betrayed them to the Turks and Syrians and abandoned them. But yay us for cheering a few people doing what the Kurdish resistance was doing all that time.


But I thought Trump singlehandedly destroyed ISIS and he was the only one preventing them from running amok in the US!
 
2021-03-09 1:09:50 AM  

lurkey: C18H27NO3: 0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?

That looks to be an M80 made by China but I, too, don't understand the context.
I've never fired one.  Is it crap?

0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?

Fark Headline: ISIS: "We will enslave and rape women" Daughters of Kobani: "You and whose army?"

She's looking at the Isis fighter (and his you-know-what) and saying: gonna rape me? with that? really? kinda laughing...
That was the subject, right?


Right on.  I just wasn't sure if it was a dig on the girl's means or something else opposite of that.  Thanks for clarifying.
I hope she's still fighting the good fight.
 
2021-03-09 1:16:05 AM  
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2021-03-09 1:16:57 AM  

C18H27NO3: 0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?

That looks to be an M80 made by China but I, too, don't understand the context.
I've never fired one.  Is it crap?


PKM or Type 80, or some other variant there-of, and they aren't crap.

Seems to me that the woman is laughing because she knows full well that she's more than capable of killing a bigoted piece of shiat that claims that he will rape and subjugate her. We really need to give the Kurds all the help we can, since they're one of the few societies in the Middle East that seems to have their heads on straight.
 
2021-03-09 1:18:02 AM  

C18H27NO3: lurkey: C18H27NO3: 0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?

That looks to be an M80 made by China but I, too, don't understand the context.
I've never fired one.  Is it crap?

0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?

Fark Headline: ISIS: "We will enslave and rape women" Daughters of Kobani: "You and whose army?"

She's looking at the Isis fighter (and his you-know-what) and saying: gonna rape me? with that? really? kinda laughing...
That was the subject, right?

Right on.  I just wasn't sure if it was a dig on the girl's means or something else opposite of that.  Thanks for clarifying.
I hope she's still fighting the good fight.


These are a great people-Kurdistan now!
 
2021-03-09 1:21:56 AM  

Ganon D. Mire: Go ahead...
[Fark user image image 425x425]
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...fight like a girl!


Trigger discipline is for girls. Real men would lay, spray & pray, then complain about the lack of ammo.
 
2021-03-09 1:26:31 AM  
Awesome.  Good for them. ISIS is a disgusting thing.
 
2021-03-09 1:26:55 AM  

Reverend J: anuran: The Kurds were doing that for years, and we did our best to starve and ignore them until they didn't exist because they were too, you know, democratic and independent. So we spent years trying to find a bunch of corrupt bastards who would stay bought. But that didn't work. So we reluctantly said "Okay, we'll support Kurds in Syria a little as long as they don't go getting uppity and thinking they can object to genocide at the hands of our good friends in Iraq and Turkey."

And they did a hell of a job.

But the moment Putin's Rent Boy was in the White House we betrayed them to the Turks and Syrians and abandoned them. But yay us for cheering a few people doing what the Kurdish resistance was doing all that time.

Yeah, I hope we can help them again, but once bitten twice shy. I wouldn't blame them if they never trusted us again.


We did that to a lot of democracy leaning, America friendly people in the Arab world.
 
2021-03-09 1:39:04 AM  

WTP 2: The new book
because this is 2014

guess i was asleep for a bit...


You don't seem pumped. Do you have something against women!?

/ just playing along for the clowns.
 
2021-03-09 1:50:42 AM  

RedVentrue: Reverend J: 

But the moment Putin's Rent Boy was in the White House we betrayed them to the Turks and Syrians and abandoned them. But yay us for cheering a few people doing what the Kurdish resistance was doing all that time.

Yeah, I hope we can help them again, but once bitten twice shy. I wouldn't blame them if they never trusted us again.

We did that to a lot of democracy leaning, America friendly people in the Arab world.


Are there any that weren't betrayed?
 
2021-03-09 2:33:22 AM  

Reverend J: anuran: The Kurds were doing that for years, and we did our best to starve and ignore them until they didn't exist because they were too, you know, democratic and independent. So we spent years trying to find a bunch of corrupt bastards who would stay bought. But that didn't work. So we reluctantly said "Okay, we'll support Kurds in Syria a little as long as they don't go getting uppity and thinking they can object to genocide at the hands of our good friends in Iraq and Turkey."

And they did a hell of a job.

But the moment Putin's Rent Boy was in the White House we betrayed them to the Turks and Syrians and abandoned them. But yay us for cheering a few people doing what the Kurdish resistance was doing all that time.

Yeah, I hope we can help them again, but once bitten twice shy. I wouldn't blame them if they never trusted us again.


And we've bitten them more than once.  It was absolutely shameful what we did to them under Trump, a terrible betrayal of a staunch and capable ally.  They'd be stupid to ever trust us, and they aren't stupid.  They're principled, though.  More than we are.
 
2021-03-09 4:55:17 AM  

RedVentrue: Reverend J: anuran: The Kurds were doing that for years, and we did our best to starve and ignore them until they didn't exist because they were too, you know, democratic and independent. So we spent years trying to find a bunch of corrupt bastards who would stay bought. But that didn't work. So we reluctantly said "Okay, we'll support Kurds in Syria a little as long as they don't go getting uppity and thinking they can object to genocide at the hands of our good friends in Iraq and Turkey."

And they did a hell of a job.

But the moment Putin's Rent Boy was in the White House we betrayed them to the Turks and Syrians and abandoned them. But yay us for cheering a few people doing what the Kurdish resistance was doing all that time.

Yeah, I hope we can help them again, but once bitten twice shy. I wouldn't blame them if they never trusted us again.

We did that to a lot of democracy leaning, America friendly people in the Arab world.


This country's very first foreign military expedition ended with us betraying the guy we supposedly went in to help.

To The Shores of Tripoli and all that.
 
2021-03-09 5:04:18 AM  

DON.MAC: RedVentrue: Reverend J: 

But the moment Putin's Rent Boy was in the White House we betrayed them to the Turks and Syrians and abandoned them. But yay us for cheering a few people doing what the Kurdish resistance was doing all that time.

Yeah, I hope we can help them again, but once bitten twice shy. I wouldn't blame them if they never trusted us again.

We did that to a lot of democracy leaning, America friendly people in the Arab world.

Are there any that weren't betrayed?


As many times as we didn't ratfark democratic activists in Central and South America which is to say zero.
 
2021-03-09 5:08:30 AM  
One of the best exist strategies for Afghanistan and Iraq I've heard is to just issue every woman an M-16 and run like hell.  The amount of misogyny in that part of the world has always astonished me... It's like they don't have mothers.
 
2021-03-09 5:21:17 AM  
Stick ham in those terrorists' asses, then drown them in pig's blood!
 
2021-03-09 7:27:05 AM  

electricjebus: One of the best exist strategies for Afghanistan and Iraq I've heard is to just issue every woman an M-16 and run like hell.  The amount of misogyny in that part of the world has always astonished me... It's like they don't have mothers.


Oh they have mothers, but they also have fathers whom they saw treat their mother like shiat from day 1, and many mothers had grown up in a society that encourages that and so they thought it was normal and just accepted that.
 
2021-03-09 7:29:48 AM  

Vern: C18H27NO3: 0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?

That looks to be an M80 made by China but I, too, don't understand the context.
I've never fired one.  Is it crap?

PKM or Type 80, or some other variant there-of, and they aren't crap.

Seems to me that the woman is laughing because she knows full well that she's more than capable of killing a bigoted piece of shiat that claims that he will rape and subjugate her. We really need to give the Kurds all the help we can, since they're one of the few societies in the Middle East that seems to have their heads on straight.


Difficulty: Erdogan and NATO. Erdogan has no loyalty to NATO at all and he'd just as soon see it cease to exist, something that the GQP would love to see happen. The right-wing propaganda machine has been anti-NATO for a couple of decades now. The Kurds are a major thorn in Erdogan's side and he'd love to just exterminate them altogether.

Did we ever manage to get those nukes out of Turkey? Seems to me that it would be a good idea. Erdogan is a nutcase.
 
2021-03-09 8:18:33 AM  
What a great article NPR.
It's only been going on since forever and the events in the book are ten years old
 
2021-03-09 9:00:08 AM  

lurkey: C18H27NO3: lurkey: C18H27NO3: 0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?

That looks to be an M80 made by China but I, too, don't understand the context.
I've never fired one.  Is it crap?

0z79: lurkey: [Fark user image 500x375]

I respect you, but... context?

Fark Headline: ISIS: "We will enslave and rape women" Daughters of Kobani: "You and whose army?"

She's looking at the Isis fighter (and his you-know-what) and saying: gonna rape me? with that? really? kinda laughing...
That was the subject, right?

Right on.  I just wasn't sure if it was a dig on the girl's means or something else opposite of that.  Thanks for clarifying.
I hope she's still fighting the good fight.

These are a great people-Kurdistan now!



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2021-03-09 9:21:21 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: Oh they have mothers, but they also have fathers whom they saw treat their mother like shiat from day 1, and many mothers had grown up in a society that encourages that and so they thought it was normal and just accepted that.


they are all in love with dying and they're doin' it in Texas.
 
2021-03-09 9:41:20 AM  
It is a great article and, because we come here to discuss issues, I will note some reservations I have about the article and its subject matter as well.

1. I distinguish between average Americans and the American government as well as the top 2% wealthy ruling our corporations and too often bending our government to their will. Americans have not undermined democracy anywhere, but American corporations and factions of the American government certainly have. On the whole the top echelons, with power in America, have been hostile to democracies.

2. This feel good article conveniently overlooks the fact that ISIS arose in response to the 2003 US invasion of Iraq. In other words, the American based industries, that reaped grotesque profits from an exceptionally optional war, birthed ISIS. Average Americans are deeply uncomfortable with the reprehensible acts of the powerful and greedy, grasping wealthy among us who are always looking to grow more wealthy even if it requires bloodshed. We don't like that, too often, they represent us, but we don't know what to do about it. So, we are drawn to articles of scrappy David like fighters. It gives us fool's gold hope and relieves us of some of our personal anxiety arising from our individual and even collective inability to prevent our government and corporations from taking actions that create an ISIS in the first place.

3. The article conflates participating in war with leadership. Here, women gain respect not by rearing children, serving as the nucleus of the family, by teaching, healing, or even running a business. We have become a society wherein all wars are good all the time. We palpably disrespect doctors, nurses, scientists, and teachers. Decades of highly effective propaganda have elevated the "warrior-hero" above all other vocations. On balance, we'd sooner heed the words of a man who ordered the slaughter of entire villages than truly listen to faith leaders - unless of course those faith leaders support and agitate for war.

4. The women in the article deserved respect before they picked up weapons. They will deserve respect when they have laid the weapons down. They deserve a world where their daughters don't have to go to war for a measure of autonomy and respect. I understand their impulse to fight, but I'm not convinced that war-making will get them the world that they want. And I don't see the powerful in the United States taking sincere action to help them create that world.
 
2021-03-09 10:11:54 AM  
NPR paid someone for that word salad?
 
2021-03-09 11:10:54 AM  
article: On what the title meansKobani - small town in Syria thrust into war by invaders - men of the Islamic State who think they'll overrun this town for yet another victory b/c its 2014 and they haven't had one loss.   Yet here comes this David vs Goliath story that takes hold: their Syrian Kurdish forces decide that they're going to fight to the death to stop that Islamic State group - and women played a central role in that battle.
 
2021-03-09 12:07:24 PM  
Internalized Islamophobia.  They will come to their senses eventually.
 
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