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2021-03-08 1:58:45 PM  
Requesting a mail-in ballot was never the issue.   That's always been done in every state when you know through illness or travel you won't be around to vote in person.   Hell, I voted in the 1988 election via mail-in ballot because I was stationed in Hawaii, and thus couldn't vote in my home state of New York.

The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

That lets people vote more than once.  Say you live in an apartment, and over the last 3 or 4 election cycles, 3 people have lived there.  One died, the other moved out of state, and then there's you.   But the local board of elections doesn't know that, so you get 3 ballots in the mail.  And there is nothing preventing you from filling out all three and sending them in.  So congrats, you get to vote for your favorite more than once.

Oh, and you almost certainly won't be discovered, or if you are, punished, because we don't dedicate any resources to prosecuting people for that kind of thing.  That's why vote fraud appears to be rare:  it's almost never prosecuted, only the most egregious cases end up in court.

And you're going to ask me where the evidence is that this happened, and I can't give it to you, because we don't look for that evidence.  Biden's administration has zero interest in making his win look illegitimate*

The courts didn't want to take cases that might lead to violent protests if Trump won.  And let's be honest here:  Almost all of the violent protests since Trump took office were from the Left, not the Right.    Starting with the day after Trump was elected in 2016.


*If indeed it was, which I'm not totally convinced of.  But the election had more red flags than Tiananmen Square on May Day, at least according to this BBC article from 2016:  https://www.bbc.com/news/world​-africa-​37243190
 
2021-03-08 2:03:23 PM  
 
2021-03-08 2:19:18 PM  

dittybopper: Requesting a mail-in ballot was never the issue.   That's always been done in every state when you know through illness or travel you won't be around to vote in person.   Hell, I voted in the 1988 election via mail-in ballot because I was stationed in Hawaii, and thus couldn't vote in my home state of New York.

The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

That lets people vote more than once.  Say you live in an apartment, and over the last 3 or 4 election cycles, 3 people have lived there.  One died, the other moved out of state, and then there's you.   But the local board of elections doesn't know that, so you get 3 ballots in the mail.  And there is nothing preventing you from filling out all three and sending them in.  So congrats, you get to vote for your favorite more than once.

Oh, and you almost certainly won't be discovered, or if you are, punished, because we don't dedicate any resources to prosecuting people for that kind of thing.  That's why vote fraud appears to be rare:  it's almost never prosecuted, only the most egregious cases end up in court.

And you're going to ask me where the evidence is that this happened, and I can't give it to you, because we don't look for that evidence.  Biden's administration has zero interest in making his win look illegitimate*

The courts didn't want to take cases that might lead to violent protests if Trump won.  And let's be honest here:  Almost all of the violent protests since Trump took office were from the Left, not the Right.    Starting with the day after Trump was elected in 2016.


*If indeed it was, which I'm not totally convinced of.  But the election had more red flags than Tiananmen Square on May Day, at least according to this BBC article from 2016:  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-​africa-37243190


I'll take Election Procedures for $100.

It's the process of determining that the envelope containing a mailed ballot has a signature matching that of the voter's signature on their voter registration document.

What is signature verification?
 
2021-03-08 2:38:45 PM  

dittybopper: The issue was


But the solution isn't banning mail in and absentee voting outright and that's what's being pushed by the GOP.

Furthermore, the fact that an opportunity for a crime exists does not mean a crime has occurred. That is teh allegation made over and over by some to explain Trump losing by millions of votes.

/Trump should run for mayor
 
2021-03-08 3:01:19 PM  
Someone should tell Trump they won't do signature matching with gold ink.
 
2021-03-08 3:12:08 PM  

dittybopper: The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls,


This didn't happen, you are lying.
 
2021-03-08 3:13:23 PM  
Did that My Pillow Guy high-jack dittybopperfark account?
 
2021-03-08 3:13:28 PM  

dittybopper: hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


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2021-03-08 3:14:06 PM  

edmo: dittybopper: The issue was

But the solution isn't banning mail in and absentee voting outright and that's what's being pushed by the GOP.

Furthermore, the fact that an opportunity for a crime exists does not mean a crime has occurred. That is teh allegation made over and over by some to explain Trump losing by millions of votes.

/Trump should run for mayor


If there's one thing that Republicans have made clear in the last 12+ years, it's that rumors and innuendo, combined with an alliterative catch-phrase for the perceived threat, are much more important to them than any actual evidence.
 
2021-03-08 3:14:51 PM  

dittybopper: California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls


This would be an effective argument if this were the list of states in which Trump's legal team challenged the results. Which it is not.
 
2021-03-08 3:14:55 PM  

dittybopper: *wall of bullshiat*


Your excuse for not finding evidence of fraud was that we weren't looking. When in fact everyone that was a part of the process, Democrat and Republican alike, said it was incredibly secure and had no fraud.

Can I assume you joined QAnon recently? Do you think liberal philanthropists drink the blood of children? If I could, I wouldn't turn your posts a different color, I'd change you avatar to the Q-Shaman.
 
2021-03-08 3:15:12 PM  
I hope they send it to his NY address and tell him Mar-a-Lago is not a residential address.
 
2021-03-08 3:15:41 PM  
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2021-03-08 3:16:27 PM  
Hypocrisy is a core conservative value.
 
2021-03-08 3:16:40 PM  

dittybopper: Requesting a mail-in ballot was never the issue.   That's always been done in every state when you know through illness or travel you won't be around to vote in person.   Hell, I voted in the 1988 election via mail-in ballot because I was stationed in Hawaii, and thus couldn't vote in my home state of New York.

The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

That lets people vote more than once.  Say you live in an apartment, and over the last 3 or 4 election cycles, 3 people have lived there.  One died, the other moved out of state, and then there's you.   But the local board of elections doesn't know that, so you get 3 ballots in the mail.  And there is nothing preventing you from filling out all three and sending them in.  So congrats, you get to vote for your favorite more than once.

Oh, and you almost certainly won't be discovered, or if you are, punished, because we don't dedicate any resources to prosecuting people for that kind of thing.  That's why vote fraud appears to be rare:  it's almost never prosecuted, only the most egregious cases end up in court.

And you're going to ask me where the evidence is that this happened, and I can't give it to you, because we don't look for that evidence.  Biden's administration has zero interest in making his win look illegitimate*

The courts didn't want to take cases that might lead to violent protests if Trump won.  And let's be honest here:  Almost all of the violent protests since Trump took office were from the Left, not the Right.    Starting with the day after Trump was elected in 2016.


*If indeed it was, which I'm not totally convinced of.  But the election had more red flags than Tiananmen Square on May Day, at least according to this BBC article from 2016:  https://www.bbc ...


Actually Ditty, they do indeed find and prosecute people who do exactly this.

The Lt. Governor of Texas owes my Lt. Gov three million dollars in bounties for finding three cases of people requesting mail in ballots for their dead relatives. All Trumpers of course, including one guy who did it explicitly to show how easy it was and how he wouldn't get caught just like you claim.

Care to provide a *single* piece of actual documented evidence for your side?

Even one?

No?

Didn't think so.
 
2021-03-08 3:17:44 PM  

HerptheDerp: . [gal.patheticcockroach.com image 432x576]


This thread is awesome, who the fark are you kidding? It's rare we have an entire thread dogpile on one dumbass' stupidity.

I require more of this.
 
2021-03-08 3:18:39 PM  
I don't often post links to support my high dubious 2020 United States Election fraud claims, but when I do, I make sure they are articles written in 2016 about elections on the African continent!

It's remarkably hard to tell if his is a parody account or not.
 
2021-03-08 3:18:51 PM  
If he is physically present in Florida on the day of the election, will his vote be disqualified due to fraud?
 
2021-03-08 3:18:58 PM  

dittybopper: And let's be honest here: Almost all of the violent protests since Trump took office were from the Left, not the Right. Starting with the day after Trump was elected in 2016.


I tell you what, I'll take 365 days of "leftist" protests for 4 whole years over just ONE DAY (January 6th, 2021) of loony right wing fascists attempting insurrection at our nation's capitol.
 
2021-03-08 3:19:32 PM  

dittybopper: And you're going to ask me where the evidence is that this happened, and I can't give it to you, because we don't look for that evidence.


ThE lAcK oF eViDeNcE iS tHe EvIdeNcE!
 
2021-03-08 3:19:39 PM  

dittybopper: Requesting a mail-in ballot was never the issue.   That's always been done in every state when you know through illness or travel you won't be around to vote in person.   Hell, I voted in the 1988 election via mail-in ballot because I was stationed in Hawaii, and thus couldn't vote in my home state of New York.

The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

That lets people vote more than once.  Say you live in an apartment, and over the last 3 or 4 election cycles, 3 people have lived there.  One died, the other moved out of state, and then there's you.   But the local board of elections doesn't know that, so you get 3 ballots in the mail.  And there is nothing preventing you from filling out all three and sending them in.  So congrats, you get to vote for your favorite more than once.

Oh, and you almost certainly won't be discovered, or if you are, punished, because we don't dedicate any resources to prosecuting people for that kind of thing.  That's why vote fraud appears to be rare:  it's almost never prosecuted, only the most egregious cases end up in court.

And you're going to ask me where the evidence is that this happened, and I can't give it to you, because we don't look for that evidence.  Biden's administration has zero interest in making his win look illegitimate*

The courts didn't want to take cases that might lead to violent protests if Trump won.  And let's be honest here:  Almost all of the violent protests since Trump took office were from the Left, not the Right.    Starting with the day after Trump was elected in 2016.


*If indeed it was, which I'm not totally convinced of.  But the election had more red flags than Tiananmen Square on May Day, at least according to this BBC article from 2016:  https://www.bbc ...


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2021-03-08 3:20:07 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: It's remarkably hard to tell if his is a parody account or not.


Doing pretty well if it is.
 
2021-03-08 3:20:09 PM  
dittybopper:

Is this a parody account? Nobody can be this goddamn stupid, can they?
 
2021-03-08 3:20:46 PM  
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2021-03-08 3:21:05 PM  
So where does this dude ACTUALLY live? I thought Mar-a-Lago was not considered a private residence?
 
2021-03-08 3:21:54 PM  

eddie_irvine: dittybopper:

Is this a parody account? Nobody can be this goddamn stupid, can they?


It didn't used to be, but it is now.
 
2021-03-08 3:22:39 PM  
Send it rolled up really tight, with directions for where to cram it.
 
2021-03-08 3:23:13 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: I don't often post links to support my high dubious 2020 United States Election fraud claims, but when I do, I make sure they are articles written in 2016 about elections on the African continent!

It's remarkably hard to tell if his is a parody account or not.


It didn't use to be I think. I had this account green farkied for a few years until this TurdPost
 
2021-03-08 3:23:46 PM  
Tell him that his fat butt has to show up in person due to concerns about voter fraud.

Considering most cases that were found in the last big election were GOP/Trumpers, it's hilarious and not surprising that they want rules for everyone else, not themselves.

Also, I have a strong feeling that the only reason dimmybopper is posting is because his mom wouldn't drive him to DC on January 6th, but will take him to the library on occasion.
 
2021-03-08 3:24:02 PM  

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2021-03-08 3:24:47 PM  

point09: Eddie Hazel's E string: I don't often post links to support my high dubious 2020 United States Election fraud claims, but when I do, I make sure they are articles written in 2016 about elections on the African continent!

It's remarkably hard to tell if his is a parody account or not.

It didn't use to be I think. I had this account green farkied for a few years until this TurdPost


A long time ago, he was a moderate conservative who was known outside the PolTab for being a Morse code enthusiast.  Now, he's a fully brainwashed Q believer.
 
2021-03-08 3:26:10 PM  

dittybopper: The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

That lets people vote more than once.


No. It didn't. People tried -- their ballots were rejected. The States were proactive in not wanting people to come to the polls on election day, but they were ALSO proactive in checking to make sure every ballot was valid and came from a registered voter.

There was no voter fraud. No one can find any. Just suggesting that it was possible does not mean that it was probable.

You're really swinging for the fences today, Ditty. What happened? Did you accidentally shoot your family or something?
 
2021-03-08 3:27:46 PM  
Funny how some thread shiatter posts ten paragraphs of lies first
 
2021-03-08 3:27:56 PM  

dittybopper: Requesting a mail-in ballot was never the issue.   That's always been done in every state when you know through illness or travel you won't be around to vote in person.   Hell, I voted in the 1988 election via mail-in ballot because I was stationed in Hawaii, and thus couldn't vote in my home state of New York.

The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

That lets people vote more than once.  Say you live in an apartment, and over the last 3 or 4 election cycles, 3 people have lived there.  One died, the other moved out of state, and then there's you.   But the local board of elections doesn't know that, so you get 3 ballots in the mail.  And there is nothing preventing you from filling out all three and sending them in.  So congrats, you get to vote for your favorite more than once.

Oh, and you almost certainly won't be discovered, or if you are, punished, because we don't dedicate any resources to prosecuting people for that kind of thing.  That's why vote fraud appears to be rare:  it's almost never prosecuted, only the most egregious cases end up in court.

And you're going to ask me where the evidence is that this happened, and I can't give it to you, because we don't look for that evidence.  Biden's administration has zero interest in making his win look illegitimate*

The courts didn't want to take cases that might lead to violent protests if Trump won.  And let's be honest here:  Almost all of the violent protests since Trump took office were from the Left, not the Right.    Starting with the day after Trump was elected in 2016.


*If indeed it was, which I'm not totally convinced of.  But the election had more red flags than Tiananmen Square on May Day, at least according to this BBC article from 2016:  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-​africa-37243190


I work for the board of elections. You don't seem to have a grasp on reality.
 
2021-03-08 3:28:32 PM  
Golf clap.

/You know who it's for.
 
2021-03-08 3:30:50 PM  

dittybopper: And you're going to ask me where the evidence is that this happened, and I can't give it to you, because we don't look for that evidence.  Biden's administration has zero interest in making his win look illegitimate*


How convenient.

Of course this would not have precluded other investigations and presentations of evidence.

And all those suits had nothing.

But go on and keep treating innuendo and "seems fishy" as fact.
 
2021-03-08 3:31:40 PM  

dittybopper: [wharrgarbl]


The Orange Messiah lost the election because people were tired of his bullschitt. Deal with it.
 
2021-03-08 3:31:41 PM  

Ishkur: There was no voter fraud. No one can find any. Just suggesting that it was possible does not mean that it was probable.


Because a certain farker who is fond of discussing whether or not P ∨ Q is equivalent to Q ∨ P is not here to post this, I will do it myself:

"I have to argue about flying saucers on the beach with people, you know. And I was interested in this: they keep arguing that it is possible. And that's true. It is possible. They do not appreciate that the problem is not to demonstrate whether it's possible or not but whether it's going on or not." - Richard Feynman
 
2021-03-08 3:32:43 PM  
So where is Individual 1** officially residing?  Maga-lard-hole?
 
2021-03-08 3:33:15 PM  

dittybopper: Requesting a mail-in ballot was never the issue.   That's always been done in every state when you know through illness or travel you won't be around to vote in person.   Hell, I voted in the 1988 election via mail-in ballot because I was stationed in Hawaii, and thus couldn't vote in my home state of New York.

The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

That lets people vote more than once.  Say you live in an apartment, and over the last 3 or 4 election cycles, 3 people have lived there.  One died, the other moved out of state, and then there's you.   But the local board of elections doesn't know that, so you get 3 ballots in the mail.  And there is nothing preventing you from filling out all three and sending them in.  So congrats, you get to vote for your favorite more than once.

Oh, and you almost certainly won't be discovered, or if you are, punished, because we don't dedicate any resources to prosecuting people for that kind of thing.  That's why vote fraud appears to be rare:  it's almost never prosecuted, only the most egregious cases end up in court.

And you're going to ask me where the evidence is that this happened, and I can't give it to you, because we don't look for that evidence.  Biden's administration has zero interest in making his win look illegitimate*

The courts didn't want to take cases that might lead to violent protests if Trump won.  And let's be honest here:  Almost all of the violent protests since Trump took office were from the Left, not the Right.    Starting with the day after Trump was elected in 2016.


*If indeed it was, which I'm not totally convinced of.  But the election had more red flags than Tiananmen Square on May Day, at least according to this BBC article from 2016:  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-​africa-37243190


An article about African elections has me totally convinced that American elections weren't above board.

/wanking motion
 
2021-03-08 3:34:55 PM  

dittybopper: The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.


Indeed. The issue is twofold:

One, we don't have an effective, national system of voting registration. Hell, we don't even have a state-level system in most cases, as voting is managed by county-level officials. I don't understand why Social Security numbers can't be tied to specific voter IDs and a common database used to ensure there is no duplication when people move from one place to another. Social Security also knows who is alive and dead, and therefore becomes a great way to remove people from the rolls pre-emptively, and at the same time can protect the people who don't have IDs or are otherwise transient by ensuring that they remain registered in their local district.

The second issue is a broader one that I bring up all the time with the Australian ballot. There's simply no way to find out after the fact who voted for whom. Because everything is done in secret, you're left to trust "the system" to capture your vote and record it correctly. Personally, I would love to be able to go down to the recorder's office and thumb through the archive and ensure that my vote for Biden was counted correctly after the election ended. But no, I can't do that. My vote just disappears into a black box.
 
2021-03-08 3:35:26 PM  

Harry Wagstaff: dittybopper: Requesting a mail-in ballot was never the issue.   That's always been done in every state when you know through illness or travel you won't be around to vote in person.   Hell, I voted in the 1988 election via mail-in ballot because I was stationed in Hawaii, and thus couldn't vote in my home state of New York.

The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

That lets people vote more than once.  Say you live in an apartment, and over the last 3 or 4 election cycles, 3 people have lived there.  One died, the other moved out of state, and then there's you.   But the local board of elections doesn't know that, so you get 3 ballots in the mail.  And there is nothing preventing you from filling out all three and sending them in.  So congrats, you get to vote for your favorite more than once.

Oh, and you almost certainly won't be discovered, or if you are, punished, because we don't dedicate any resources to prosecuting people for that kind of thing.  That's why vote fraud appears to be rare:  it's almost never prosecuted, only the most egregious cases end up in court.

And you're going to ask me where the evidence is that this happened, and I can't give it to you, because we don't look for that evidence.  Biden's administration has zero interest in making his win look illegitimate*

The courts didn't want to take cases that might lead to violent protests if Trump won.  And let's be honest here:  Almost all of the violent protests since Trump took office were from the Left, not the Right.    Starting with the day after Trump was elected in 2016.


*If indeed it was, which I'm not totally convinced of.  But the election had more red flags than Tiananmen Square on May Day, at least according to this BBC article from 2016:  ht ...


No idea where he was going with that.

Don't care to acquire one.
 
2021-03-08 3:38:02 PM  
dittybopper:

The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

Applications.  Ballot applications.

As in, TOTALLY different than actual ballots.
 
2021-03-08 3:41:04 PM  
You mean like he did in 2020, subs?
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/19/903886​5​67/trump-while-attacking-mail-voting-c​asts-mail-ballot-again
Trump submitted the Florida primary ballot by giving it to a third party to return, a spokesperson for the Palm Beach elections supervisor confirmed to NPR on Wednesday. Republicans often derisively refer to sending in a ballot this way as "ballot harvesting," and it's something Trump has criticized.
 
2021-03-08 3:42:58 PM  

The Homer Tax: dittybopper: The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls,

This didn't happen, you are lying.


It happened in at least two states, Oregon and Washington.

/Both use exclusively vote by mail and have for as long as I've been voting.
 
2021-03-08 3:44:20 PM  

pacified: Funny how some thread shiatter posts ten paragraphs of lies first


It makes the mods work harder to remove all the posts pointing this out.
 
2021-03-08 3:45:53 PM  

Shaggy_C: dittybopper: The issue was states like California, Colorado, Washington DC, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Hawaii mailing ballots to every single voter on their rolls, and not effectively cleaning those rolls of dead or otherwise inactive voters prior to the election.

Indeed. The issue is twofold:

One, we don't have an effective, national system of voting registration. Hell, we don't even have a state-level system in most cases, as voting is managed by county-level officials. I don't understand why Social Security numbers can't be tied to specific voter IDs and a common database used to ensure there is no duplication when people move from one place to another. Social Security also knows who is alive and dead, and therefore becomes a great way to remove people from the rolls pre-emptively, and at the same time can protect the people who don't have IDs or are otherwise transient by ensuring that they remain registered in their local district.

The second issue is a broader one that I bring up all the time with the Australian ballot. There's simply no way to find out after the fact who voted for whom. Because everything is done in secret, you're left to trust "the system" to capture your vote and record it correctly. Personally, I would love to be able to go down to the recorder's office and thumb through the archive and ensure that my vote for Biden was counted correctly after the election ended. But no, I can't do that. My vote just disappears into a black box.


A black box? So no ballot tracking? That seems...off. Got proof?
Here in WA state, we have fantastic tracking:
https://info.kingcounty.gov/kcelectio​n​s/vote/myvoterinfo.aspx
 
2021-03-08 3:46:12 PM  
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2021-03-08 3:47:38 PM  

Brainsick: You mean like he did in 2020, subs?
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/19/9038865​67/trump-while-attacking-mail-voting-c​asts-mail-ballot-again
Trump submitted the Florida primary ballot by giving it to a third party to return, a spokesperson for the Palm Beach elections supervisor confirmed to NPR on Wednesday. Republicans often derisively refer to sending in a ballot this way as "ballot harvesting," and it's something Trump has criticized.


It was hypocritical then also.


Not that that ever mattered to Republicans.
 
2021-03-08 3:49:05 PM  

dittybopper: Oh, and you almost certainly won't be discovered, or if you are, punished, because we don't dedicate any resources to prosecuting people for that kind of thing.  That's why vote fraud appears to be rare:  it's almost never prosecuted, only the most egregious cases end up in court.


You could tell that to the nice lady in Texas, now in prison, who was going to the post office and asked her old neighbor if she needed anything?  "Why yes.  Could you mail this ballot for me?"   That's all it takes in Texas to commit voter fraud.  Touch that envelope and you're a criminal committing a crime, unless you are a close blood relative.

The prosecution was to a purpose.  The story was designed to teach that voting is bad, absentee ballots are evil, old people are the devil -- best not vote.  Anyone offering to sign up a voter, or to handle a ballot (even in an envelope) is up to no good.  Anyone trying to ensnare unregistered people to allow them to vote is violating holy ordinances as badly as those who intercourse with farm yard animals.

The prosecution was designed to stop voter registration and getting voters to the polls.  They were quite happy to have people believe that only egregious violations were prosecuted, and not that the most vulnerable were being bullied as an example.
 
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