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(SportsNaut)   Houston Texans reportedly willing to let Deshaun Watson sit on Carson Palmer's couch for the 2021 season   (sportsnaut.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Pro Bowl, Houston Texans, Deshaun Watson, National Football League, Miami Dolphins, Cleveland Browns, Team owner Cal McNair, Super Bowl  
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2021-03-08 10:01:26 AM  
Having convinced their star player not to play for them, the thing to do is diminish his value further with this ingenious scheme. So very Texan.
 
2021-03-08 10:33:56 AM  
Talk to me in July when people start to think about maybe setting up a time for training camps.
 
2021-03-08 10:51:59 AM  
Idiot signs contract; idiot doesn't want to fulfill contract; idiots - we are a nation of many idiots.  I've heard that rich people sometimes hire hitters to solve their problems.
 
2021-03-08 11:02:22 AM  
Deshaun meet Texas stubbornness, enjoy the ride.

/never any one more stubborn than a ticked off Texan
 
2021-03-08 11:28:52 AM  
And to think Ryan Pace could have prevented this all back in 2017 by drafting Watson instead of Trabinsky.
 
2021-03-08 11:43:19 AM  
Enjoy that 1 win season, Houston!
 
2021-03-08 11:56:29 AM  

Porkbelly: Idiot signs contract; idiot doesn't want to fulfill contract; idiots - we are a nation of many idiots.  I've heard that rich people sometimes hire hitters to solve their problems.


We get it. You think he's uppity.
 
2021-03-08 12:03:44 PM  

Porkbelly: Idiot signs contract; idiot doesn't want to fulfill contract; idiots - we are a nation of many idiots.  I've heard that rich people sometimes hire hitters to solve their problems.


NFL contracts are worth nothing.  If a team wants to stop paying a player, they stop paying a player.  No reason why players should treat that piece of paper with any more respect than the team does.
 
2021-03-08 12:13:57 PM  

peachpicker: Porkbelly: Idiot signs contract; idiot doesn't want to fulfill contract; idiots - we are a nation of many idiots.  I've heard that rich people sometimes hire hitters to solve their problems.

We get it. You think he's uppity.


As much as I want to side with the player's freedom, as an NFL fan, I have to agree with peachpicker.

Deshaun Watson signed a 4 year, $156,000,000 contract with the Houston Texans, including a $27,000,000 signing bonus, $110,717,123 guaranteed (source).

Free agency is fine, but don't sign a 4-year commitment with a crappy franchise and then refuse to honor it after you've got your signing bonus, etc...

I mean, what if Mahomes decided he wants to play for a different team next year, and signed another long term commitment, then did it again in 2022?

The teams would stop giving any bonus, the fans would hate losing their star every year to another team, etc...

What about mid-season?  After starting 4-4, can someone switch teams to a 7-1 franchise?

At some point, players need to either not sign the contracts, or honor their commitments.
 
2021-03-08 1:22:47 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Enjoy that 1 win season, Houston!


If they are lucky. The Texans will be the first 0-17 team in history in 2021. Hopefully, this gets everyone fired. I doubt it, but one can hope.
 
2021-03-08 1:25:55 PM  

Dr.Fey: peachpicker: Porkbelly: Idiot signs contract; idiot doesn't want to fulfill contract; idiots - we are a nation of many idiots.  I've heard that rich people sometimes hire hitters to solve their problems.

We get it. You think he's uppity.

As much as I want to side with the player's freedom, as an NFL fan, I have to agree with peachpicker.

Deshaun Watson signed a 4 year, $156,000,000 contract with the Houston Texans, including a $27,000,000 signing bonus, $110,717,123 guaranteed (source).

Free agency is fine, but don't sign a 4-year commitment with a crappy franchise and then refuse to honor it after you've got your signing bonus, etc...

I mean, what if Mahomes decided he wants to play for a different team next year, and signed another long term commitment, then did it again in 2022?

The teams would stop giving any bonus, the fans would hate losing their star every year to another team, etc...

What about mid-season?  After starting 4-4, can someone switch teams to a 7-1 franchise?

At some point, players need to either not sign the contracts, or honor their commitments.



This whole standoff stems from the Texans not honoring their commitment.  They promised him input while negotiating his contract. No idea if that's actually in his contract, but McNair hasn't exactly denied it.

It would actually be easier for Watson to be selfish and take all the money while just lollygagging on the field.  He knows he's not going to get paid if he sits.  I would bet he'd actually be glad to give up his bonus money, but the union would probably fight that tooth and nail.
 
2021-03-08 2:17:46 PM  

peachpicker: Porkbelly: Idiot signs contract; idiot doesn't want to fulfill contract; idiots - we are a nation of many idiots.  I've heard that rich people sometimes hire hitters to solve their problems.

We get it. You think he's uppity.


I get it, you are a racist.  And no, I think you sign a contract you play under your agreement.  Also, fark you.
 
2021-03-08 2:18:35 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: The Texans will be the first 0-17 team in history in 2021.


Don't be too sure.  They play both the Jets and the Jaguars in 2021.

nein: This whole standoff stems from the Texans not honoring their commitment.  They promised him input while negotiating his contract. No idea if that's actually in his contract, but McNair hasn't exactly denied it.


Well, if they (well, McNair) did, then I'm with ya.

It's still weird to me that he signed a contract just months ago in September 2020 and is holding out already.  I mean, he got the no-trade clause in writing, so if this was so important to him, it should have been in the contract as well.  Don't they say verbal promises are only worth the paper they're written on or sumpthin'?
 
2021-03-08 2:29:52 PM  
barely show up and collect your paycheck.  when the season starts, change every play they radio in.  They call for a run, throw a bomb.  they call for a pass, call for run off tackle.  who cares if the right people are in to run the play, let whoever is in figure out what they have to do.  don't even call a time out if people are running around not knowing what to do. snap the ball no matter what.  they can bench him, the can put him on inactive for the week, but they have to pay him or cut him.
 
2021-03-08 2:54:12 PM  

darth sunshine: barely show up and collect your paycheck.  when the season starts, change every play they radio in.  They call for a run, throw a bomb.  they call for a pass, call for run off tackle.  who cares if the right people are in to run the play, let whoever is in figure out what they have to do.  don't even call a time out if people are running around not knowing what to do. snap the ball no matter what.  they can bench him, the can put him on inactive for the week, but they have to pay him or cut him.


That actually might be a more effective way to get off a team one did not want to play than ahold out, if it did not impact your own stats and apparent value to other teams.
 
2021-03-08 3:27:08 PM  

grimlock1972: darth sunshine: barely show up and collect your paycheck.  when the season starts, change every play they radio in.  They call for a run, throw a bomb.  they call for a pass, call for run off tackle.  who cares if the right people are in to run the play, let whoever is in figure out what they have to do.  don't even call a time out if people are running around not knowing what to do. snap the ball no matter what.  they can bench him, the can put him on inactive for the week, but they have to pay him or cut him.

That actually might be a more effective way to get off a team one did not want to play than ahold out, if it did not impact your own stats and apparent value to other teams.


Not only that, but you are dicking over all of your teammates.  You shouldn't be taking everyone down with you.
 
2021-03-08 8:39:42 PM  
Dr.Fey:

nein: This whole standoff stems from the Texans not honoring their commitment.  They promised him input while negotiating his contract. No idea if that's actually in his contract, but McNair hasn't exactly denied it.

Well, if they (well, McNair) did, then I'm with ya.

It's still weird to me that he signed a contract just months ago in September 2020 and is holding out already.  I mean, he got the no-trade clause in writing, so if this was so important to him, it should have been in the contract as well.  Don't they say verbal promises are only worth the paper they're written on or sumpthin'?



That's just the thing. He's not holding out for money or a new contract.  He just wants out because he sees the team falling apart.  Remember, he signed that extension before the Texans traded Deandre Hopkins for nothing.  He still played the good soldier, but then the team starts out 0-4, the head coach is fired, they have no draft picks for the foreseeable future, their franchise icon wants out (and gets out- ending up on Hopkins' team), their highly-regarded and award-winning PR person is fired with no public justification, they don't bother to interview the coach he lobbied for until the PR got out of hand, they barely pay lip service to their promise that they were going to give him input on GM or coaching decisions... seems pretty clear to me why he'd want out after 1 year., and it has nothing to do with money.
 
2021-03-09 12:00:17 AM  

nein: Dr.Fey:

nein: This whole standoff stems from the Texans not honoring their commitment.  They promised him input while negotiating his contract. No idea if that's actually in his contract, but McNair hasn't exactly denied it.

Well, if they (well, McNair) did, then I'm with ya.

It's still weird to me that he signed a contract just months ago in September 2020 and is holding out already.  I mean, he got the no-trade clause in writing, so if this was so important to him, it should have been in the contract as well.  Don't they say verbal promises are only worth the paper they're written on or sumpthin'?


That's just the thing. He's not holding out for money or a new contract.  He just wants out because he sees the team falling apart.  Remember, he signed that extension before the Texans traded Deandre Hopkins for nothing.  He still played the good soldier, but then the team starts out 0-4, the head coach is fired, they have no draft picks for the foreseeable future, their franchise icon wants out (and gets out- ending up on Hopkins' team), their highly-regarded and award-winning PR person is fired with no public justification, they don't bother to interview the coach he lobbied for until the PR got out of hand, they barely pay lip service to their promise that they were going to give him input on GM or coaching decisions... seems pretty clear to me why he'd want out after 1 year., and it has nothing to do with money.


To add....

The team has come under the control of a religious whackaloon, who not only served as the team's counselor but also now controls all personnel decisions. So the guy the players essentially confessed to about their personal problems has become the guy who can hold those problems against them. The same guy holds a cult-like sway over the team's owner and eliminates anyone who doesn't fit his personal ethos (including Hopkins and the PR person).

The Texans hired a search firm to lead the search for their next GM. The owner--under the sway of the charlatan, his own personal Rasputin--threw out the firm's recommendations and hired the guy from New England who gave Rasputin his previous job in New England.

Watson signed a contract to play for a team that was (at the time) still run by professionals, not by a religious semi-cult. The team is currently in the hands of two people with no football experience, who in tandem have control of every aspect of the team and its personnel; the new HC has no HC experience and was hired (in part) because he's a figure in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and is only acting as HC until Josh McCown is ready to take over as coach.

It's a clusterfark of amazing proportions.
 
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