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2021-03-07 9:05:12 PM  
Because eliminating the top predators worked out well the last time we killed them off.  How much habitat was destroyed by deer over population?
 
2021-03-07 9:19:29 PM  
Now would be a good time to learn how wolves are a key species and how trophic cascades keep the natural world healthy.

How Wolves Change Rivers
Youtube ysa5OBhXz-Q
 
2021-03-07 9:55:51 PM  
That's the name of my Judas Priest/Fleet Foxes cover band.
 
2021-03-07 10:33:00 PM  
The Trump administration lifted protections again five days before the November election, when Interior Secretary David Bernhardt travelled to Minnesota to announce the move.

On President Joe Biden's first day in office, the White House said it would review the wolf decision.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand what became of that? Nothing?
 
2021-03-07 11:45:23 PM  
Jesus. We just got wolves back.
 
2021-03-07 11:47:41 PM  

SpaceyCat: Because eliminating the top predators worked out well the last time we killed them off.  How much habitat was destroyed by deer over population?


Tasty, tasty overpopulation...

/ Deer burger, deer stew, deer steak, deer jerky, deer sausage, deer chili, deer spaghetti,
 
2021-03-07 11:49:39 PM  

iheartscotch: / Deer burger, deer stew, deer steak, deer jerky, deer sausage, deer chili, deer spaghetti,


As well as destroyed habitats that drive other animals out of the area.  You can have all the deer without killing off their predators.
 
2021-03-07 11:53:05 PM  

iheartscotch: Jesus. We just got wolves back.


They must compete in nature with face-eating leopards
 
2021-03-07 11:55:32 PM  
1200 wolves in the entire state of Montana?  Yeah, sounds like a major menace.

This is what happens when you allow an entire political party to be taken over by sociopaths?
 
2021-03-07 11:55:44 PM  
Idaho legislation would allow hunters to shoot them from motorized parachutes

That should be fun to watch. Or not. The one thing it would do is insure the wolves survival. The things ain't drones. Trying to get an accurate shot off could get interesting in the right area. There might be a lot of dead cows.
 
2021-03-07 11:55:45 PM  

iheartscotch: Jesus. We just got wolves back.


And just like Republicans love to repeat the economic actions that led to things like the Great Depression and the French and Russian revolutions, they're repeating the same shiat that farked up the food chain the last time we went to war against wolves.
 
2021-03-07 11:57:38 PM  
Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on private land should certainly be subject to appropriate control.

Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on public land should be appreciative for the free beef and mutton.
 
2021-03-07 11:58:06 PM  

Mentat: 1200 wolves in the entire state of Montana?  Yeah, sounds like a major menace.

This is what happens when you allow an entire political party to be taken over by sociopaths?


Remember, their entire political platform at this point is 'Stigginit to the Libs'. Libs like a functioning ecosystem and the concept of conservation? Fark it, open season!
 
2021-03-07 11:59:18 PM  

Jeff5: Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on private land should certainly be subject to appropriate control.

Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on public land should be appreciative for the free beef and mutton.


Thing is, Republicans don't understand the concept of appropriate control. Their idea of 'control' is the same as their idea of 'diplomacy': Shoot at the problem until it goes away.
 
2021-03-07 11:59:29 PM  

saturn badger: Idaho legislation would allow hunters to shoot them from motorized parachutes

That should be fun to watch. Or not. The one thing it would do is insure the wolves survival. The things ain't drones. Trying to get an accurate shot off could get interesting in the right area. There might be a lot of dead cows.


Might be a lot of littering when they fly those things into the ground trying to follow a wolf...
 
2021-03-07 11:59:34 PM  

saturn badger: Idaho legislation would allow hunters to shoot them from motorized parachutes

That should be fun to watch. Or not. The one thing it would do is insure the wolves survival. The things ain't drones. Trying to get an accurate shot off could get interesting in the right area. There might be a lot of dead cows.


And way too many just wounded animals rather than dead ones.  All these ideas by these ferel pigs suck.
 
2021-03-07 11:59:59 PM  

Jeff5: Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on private land should certainly be subject to appropriate control.

Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on public land should be appreciative for the free beef and mutton.


Wolves don't know the distinction.
 
2021-03-08 12:02:03 AM  

SpaceyCat: iheartscotch: / Deer burger, deer stew, deer steak, deer jerky, deer sausage, deer chili, deer spaghetti,

As well as destroyed habitats that drive other animals out of the area.  You can have all the deer without killing off their predators.


Agreed. Wild wolves serve an essential role in the food chain. Killing them off is extremely short sighted.
 
2021-03-08 12:04:08 AM  
The thing I was most afraid of for drones was that humasn would use them to hunt everything else. Not just humans, but moose, wolves, deer, owls, squirrels, everything. Drones are going to drive so many extinctions.
 
2021-03-08 12:05:53 AM  
(R)s. Leave the wolves alone and come kill all the burros in Socal.

They're an invasive species and they're shiatting on my carport.
 
2021-03-08 12:06:42 AM  

iheartscotch: SpaceyCat: Because eliminating the top predators worked out well the last time we killed them off.  How much habitat was destroyed by deer over population?

Tasty, tasty overpopulation...

/ Deer burger, deer stew, deer steak, deer jerky, deer sausage, deer chili, deer spaghetti,


... and that's about it.
 
2021-03-08 12:06:50 AM  

Mentat: 1200 wolves in the entire state of Montana?  Yeah, sounds like a major menace.

This is what happens when you allow an entire political party to be taken over by sociopaths?


When some of your closest lobbying group are hunters and ranchers 1200 wolves sounds like the end of Republic as they know it.
Right up there with how they blew the WI  season.  They could have waited until next February but nope, got a judgement in a county where there isn't a wild wolf for 60 miles and got a hastily thrown together shiate show.
 
2021-03-08 12:08:07 AM  
I would think that the Republicans would be crying about how nobody is arming the deers?
 
2021-03-08 12:10:04 AM  
Yes indeed, a wolf will decimate vast herds of cattle - most grazing on public land - to the point the ranchers can't bank what they once wished they could bank.
 
2021-03-08 12:10:05 AM  

iheartscotch: SpaceyCat: Because eliminating the top predators worked out well the last time we killed them off.  How much habitat was destroyed by deer over population?

Tasty, tasty overpopulation...

/ Deer burger, deer stew, deer steak, deer jerky, deer sausage, deer chili, deer spaghetti,


Grill, right wheel well, passenger side door, windshield, rear left quarter panel, popped tires, driver side rear window, head-collison bounced over the roof on to the trunk....

/free deer
 
2021-03-08 12:12:42 AM  

Jeff5: Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on private land should certainly be subject to appropriate control.

Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on public land should be appreciative for the free beef and mutton.


Or maybe people who raise livestock on private land should subject their livestock to appropriate protection.
'Ain't the wolves fault they let food nuggets mill about on the lawn.
 
2021-03-08 12:17:38 AM  

Jeff5: Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on private land should certainly be subject to appropriate control.

Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on public land should be appreciative for the free beef and mutton.


There are innumerable solutions to this that don't involve killing wolves. Maybe don't raise livestock near wolf populations. Or put up a farking fence.
 
2021-03-08 12:21:09 AM  
OR-93 really gets around.

OR-93 hails from Oregon's White River pack, according to the CDFW. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs fitted him with a tracking collar in June 2020 within his home territory. At some point he left the area, likely in search of new territory and a mate. He reached California's Modoc County by the beginning of February; by the end of the month, he had traveled to Alpine County, between trans-Sierra State Highways 4 and 108. He then passed into Mono County. This put him just east of Yosemite National Park and marks the first time a wolf has been known to approach the park in more than 100 years,

https://www.ecowatch.com/gray-wolf-or​e​gon-california-2650842508.html?rebellt​item=2#rebelltitem2
 
2021-03-08 12:22:52 AM  
In CO we passed a Gray Wolf Reintroduction Initiative to try and up their numbers.
Of course as we spend our money to up the numbers all our neighbors will be assholes and fight that.

Anyone will see one species or another as a nuisance.
But at this stage of the game, we need to be promoting biodiversity.
Anywhere and any way we can.

Unless you have scientific evidence species numbers are negatively impacting their own environment, you should not be hunting them for sport or to protect property that can be protected otherwise.
(And even in the presence of some evidence we should question it... we once mass-killed elephants thinking we were fighting desertification... turns out we were doing the opposite)

Every species is a tiny counterweight to a very complex scale.

The fewer we have left in 100, 200, 300 years, the less chance those people will have any of the tools they need to maintain/build the various biomes.
 
2021-03-08 12:24:36 AM  

Petey4335: iheartscotch: SpaceyCat: Because eliminating the top predators worked out well the last time we killed them off.  How much habitat was destroyed by deer over population?

Tasty, tasty overpopulation...

/ Deer burger, deer stew, deer steak, deer jerky, deer sausage, deer chili, deer spaghetti,

Grill, right wheel well, passenger side door, windshield, rear left quarter panel, popped tires, driver side rear window, head-collison bounced over the roof on to the trunk....

/free deer


Jebus! How many did you f*ckin hit?
 
2021-03-08 12:26:31 AM  
Lookout, they might shoot back.

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2021-03-08 12:33:19 AM  

oh my word yes: Same folks who believe that swamps, perfectly normal type of biome, are bad and need to be drained.


The politically correct term for swamps is "wetlands". Also fark wetlands.
 
2021-03-08 12:34:44 AM  

make me some tea: Now would be a good time to learn how wolves are a key species and how trophic cascades keep the natural world healthy.

[YouTube video: How Wolves Change Rivers]


I know we didn't understand these things in the past.

Now that we do, it's so dumb that we're trying to redo the mistake just so folks that already get sweetheart grazing prices on public land can have slightly fewer expenses. And these folks already get payouts for predator-inducted losses at least in some states.

American self-sufficient bootstrapping at its finest.
 
2021-03-08 12:40:44 AM  

saturn badger: Idaho legislation would allow hunters to shoot them from motorized parachutes

That should be fun to watch. Or not. The one thing it would do is insure the wolves survival. The things ain't drones. Trying to get an accurate shot off could get interesting in the right area. There might be a lot of dead cows.


I read that twice just because the first visual was just like comically bad in an epically awesome kinda way. Then the second time I read it I realized I didn't misread it the first time and I got sad
 
2021-03-08 12:46:19 AM  
If I have a business that produces waste that is harmful to the environment, I can't just dump it into a river and kill all the fish there. I must find a way to dispose of the harmful byproducts of my business in a safe manner. Why does this same reasoning not apply to those who raise livestock? They should be required to find a way to protect their livestock that doesn't involve harming the existing environment. If they can't then they should find a different line of work.
 
2021-03-08 12:46:30 AM  
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2021-03-08 12:50:25 AM  
What sort of attack will be allowed?

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2021-03-08 12:50:46 AM  
Livestock ranching is unsustainable and owes its continued existence to government subsidies. otherwise known as "welfare". Once lab-grown meat really becomes a thing, ranchers may need to earn a living by providing a food source for furry tourist-attractions like the wolves that they short-sightedly want to eradicate.

/also, f**k the hunting outfitters and the obscenely wealthy that they cater to
 
2021-03-08 12:57:04 AM  
GOP dislikes competition.
 
2021-03-08 12:57:23 AM  

Gawdzila: Jeff5: Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on private land should certainly be subject to appropriate control.

Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on public land should be appreciative for the free beef and mutton.

Or maybe people who raise livestock on private land should subject their livestock to appropriate protection.
'Ain't the wolves fault they let food nuggets mill about on the lawn.


Privatize profit, socialize risk.
 
2021-03-08 12:58:52 AM  
Republicans just love to threaten and kill, don't they? Do none of them have measurable/functional penises?
 
2021-03-08 12:58:52 AM  

Befuddled: If I have a business that produces waste that is harmful to the environment, I can't just dump it into a river and kill all the fish there.


What country do you live in? Here in the US you can do that, slight hit to profits but the fines are small enough that you can stay in the green and there's no risk of jailtime.
 
2021-03-08 1:09:30 AM  
"Too many wolves," Republican state Sen. Bob Brown said of his mountainous district in northwest Montana. He's sponsoring a bounty-like program that's similar to one in Idaho and would reimburse hunting and trapping expenses through a private fund.

It's funny how people's affection for nuisance animals dramatically rises the farther away the animals live. People who don't live in cities love pigeons. Everyone loves the idea of man and nature living in harmony as long as that man is someone else.

mrparks: (R)s. Leave the wolves alone and come kill all the burros in Socal.

They're an invasive species and they're shiatting on my carport.


A good first step to attract people to kill burros would be to stop placing bounties on people who kill burros. (August 2019: "Officials in California are trying to find out who's been shooting and killing wild burros in the desert--and are offering a $10,000 reward for answers.")
 
2021-03-08 1:12:14 AM  

Klyukva: oh my word yes: Same folks who believe that swamps, perfectly normal type of biome, are bad and need to be drained.

The politically correct term for swamps is "wetlands". Also fark wetlands.


Fark you.  Wetlands are sinks for naturally and man-produced toxins and pollution.
 
2021-03-08 1:13:26 AM  

SomeFarkinFarmgirl: Livestock ranching is unsustainable and owes its continued existence to government subsidies. otherwise known as "welfare". Once lab-grown meat really becomes a thing, ranchers may need to earn a living by providing a food source for furry tourist-attractions like the wolves that they short-sightedly want to eradicate.

/also, f**k the hunting outfitters and the obscenely wealthy that they cater to


Really?

My extended family has been ranching in the same area for 6 generations and does not receive subsidies. Your point is not correct.
 
2021-03-08 1:17:35 AM  

Klyukva: It's funny how people's affection for nuisance animals dramatically rises the farther away the animals live. People who don't live in cities love pigeons.


Who the fark have you met that loves pigeons? I'm a cityboy with several countryfried friends and the closest compliment I've heard from them about pigeons is that the Pigeon Guy episode of Hey Arnold is one of the best.
 
2021-03-08 1:18:22 AM  
Here in Wisconsin the last wolf hunt was a disaster. and was forced by legislation cause "THERE HAS TO BE A WOLF HUNT" 
86% over the limit were killed due to a confluence of factors.  Coyote season was started, so hunting dogs were primed, strong bear hunt lobbying group, fresh snow. etc

What is worse, when you disrupt a pack, the solo wolves tend to go after cattle since it is easier.  instead of staying in the wild and taking down wild herd animals

It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, they hunt wolves to prevent cattle being harmed, but  end up forcing wolves to go after cattle since you break up the stable packs
 
2021-03-08 1:19:08 AM  

Qellaqan: make me some tea: Now would be a good time to learn how wolves are a key species and how trophic cascades keep the natural world healthy.

[YouTube video: How Wolves Change Rivers]

I know we didn't understand these things in the past.

Now that we do, it's so dumb that we're trying to redo the mistake just so folks that already get sweetheart grazing prices on public land can have slightly fewer expenses. And these folks already get payouts for predator-inducted losses at least in some states.

American self-sufficient bootstrapping at its finest.


That is not the point. The point is that we are trying to fix the other problems that come along with wolves. Wolves have both pros and cons with respect to wildlife management. These can change based upon what your management goals are. What works for the middle of Yellowstone may not be the best for the ranch country in Idaho.
 
2021-03-08 1:19:44 AM  
Jeff5:

Wolves, or any other predators, that kill livestock on private land should certainly be subject to appropriate control.

That control being restitution paid to the farmer by the government, because doing anything else would be irresponsible wildlife management.
 
2021-03-08 1:22:27 AM  

kkinnison: Here in Wisconsin the last wolf hunt was a disaster. and was forced by legislation cause "THERE HAS TO BE A WOLF HUNT" 
86% over the limit were killed due to a confluence of factors.  Coyote season was started, so hunting dogs were primed, strong bear hunt lobbying group, fresh snow. etc

What is worse, when you disrupt a pack, the solo wolves tend to go after cattle since it is easier.  instead of staying in the wild and taking down wild herd animals

It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, they hunt wolves to prevent cattle being harmed, but  end up forcing wolves to go after cattle since you break up the stable packs


That hasn't been the case here in the intermountain west. We have had hunting seasons for about 10 years now. Livestock depredation has been way down from what it was before.
 
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