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2021-03-08 12:08:15 AM  
Well, Godzilla vs. Kong does come out in a few weeks
 
2021-03-08 12:15:20 AM  
What might not be well known or obvious to a lot of people is that the Senkakus are between Japan and Taiwan, and they get along just fine, negotiating fishing and other various agreements in a perfectly normal way.

It  is unusual and well, a dickish move, for China to be asserting claims and causing problems there. Problems have only arisen fairly recently and for reasons having nothing to do with anything Taiwan or Japan has done.
 
2021-03-08 12:51:57 AM  
So what, the Bismarck andthe Tirpitz?
 
2021-03-08 12:59:46 AM  
And the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor!
 
2021-03-08 1:01:40 AM  
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2021-03-08 1:01:58 AM  
Looks like standard creeping onto a neighboring country's territory and then slowly taking it over. Might need to park a few destroyers in the area to keep them away.
 
2021-03-08 1:05:32 AM  

2fardownthread: What might not be well known or obvious to a lot of people is that the Senkakus are between Japan and Taiwan, and they get along just fine, negotiating fishing and other various agreements in a perfectly normal way.

It  is unusual and well, a dickish move, for China to be asserting claims and causing problems there. Problems have only arisen fairly recently and for reasons having nothing to do with anything Taiwan or Japan has done.


Remember, Beijing views Taiwan as theirs so this might be as much about countering the idea that those negotiations are legitimate as it is about trying to seize the islands from Japan.
 
2021-03-08 1:06:32 AM  

Amoment: And the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor!


Germans?
 
2021-03-08 1:17:27 AM  
JFC. Unless Japan is invading Manchuria, sending a Kaiju alert, or announcing the sale of a fully autonomous sex robot, I don't think the news tag is warranted.
 
2021-03-08 1:18:41 AM  

2fardownthread: What might not be well known or obvious to a lot of people is that the Senkakus are between Japan and Taiwan, and they get along just fine, negotiating fishing and other various agreements in a perfectly normal way.

It  is unusual and well, a dickish move, for China to be asserting claims and causing problems there. Problems have only arisen fairly recently and for reasons having nothing to do with anything Taiwan or Japan has done.


I mean, one of the big theories behind why China started cracking on Hong Kong was to test the global response to see if they can eat Taiwan yet or not. Since the UK was being a farkfest about Brexit and the US derpland with Trump, the answer they got was "yeah, maybe you can get away with a lot, actually." So it's probably not just random jerk behavior.
 
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2021-03-08 1:21:17 AM  

shinji3i: Amoment: And the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor!

Germans?


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2021-03-08 1:28:12 AM  

Amoment: And the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor!


And the Iraqis do 9/11 again
 
2021-03-08 1:34:19 AM  
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2021-03-08 1:39:17 AM  
For all the talk of the SCS, always remember that this is essentially a schoolyard argument. This is all posturing on China's part, Hong Kong is a far more important matter.  Japan is essentially just posturing back to let China know they won't let them have the Senkaku islands.

They won't invade Taiwan for the same reason they won't attack other the US, that sort of shooting war doesn't benefit them at all.
 
2021-03-08 1:50:54 AM  
Japan may have gone slightly overboard in their efforts to bring China to heel back in the '30s, but they weren't wrong about its needing to be done.

And now here we are.
 
2021-03-08 2:04:26 AM  
Amid escalating tensions in the disputed East China Sea

Someone has been reading their Hasbara manual I see.

Hint:  China does not own any oceans.  In fact, nobody does.   China are being dicks.   This aggression will not stand.
 
2021-03-08 2:05:32 AM  

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2021-03-08 2:05:39 AM  
too bad the Good Guys here are elderly anime freaks
 
2021-03-08 2:16:09 AM  

jsmilky: too bad the Good Guys here are elderly anime freaks


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2021-03-08 2:29:02 AM  

InfoFreako: leeksfromchichis: このビジネスは手がつからなくんるぞ。
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2021-03-08 2:29:34 AM  
Flash forward- dose in the future, but trip now?
You could blow your own mind that way.
 
2021-03-08 2:40:31 AM  
Japan wants to send their navy to "deal with" the Chinese navy?

Meaning what exactly?

China and Japan have been doing this dance of "I hate you. No I hate you. I HATE YOU EVEN HARDER! WELL THAT GOES DOUBLE FOR ME!" for ages. What this sounds like to me is Japan going over to China's neighborhood and doing a drive-by insult of their mother, and then likely retreating. To which my response is, if it doesn't involve giant fighting robots then meh.

Much like Russia, China seems keen to push the buttons of every other nation on earth. Russia does it by conducting military exercises where they're not wanted, and having near misses with US military personnel/equipment (and I'm sure many other countries as well). China's basically been saying "STAY OUT OF MY POOL, YOU GODDAMN KIDS!" for years. But interestingly they have no problem at all sending their fishing boats all the way to the coast of South America to try to steal those resources.

Conclusion: fark China, and fark Russia too.
 
2021-03-08 2:54:56 AM  
farking dammit I always mentally lump the Senkaku islands in with the SCS shiat, ignore my stupid ass.
 
2021-03-08 3:24:20 AM  

2fardownthread: What might not be well known or obvious to a lot of people is that the Senkakus are between Japan and Taiwan, and they get along just fine, negotiating fishing and other various agreements in a perfectly normal way.

It  is unusual and well, a dickish move, for China to be asserting claims and causing problems there. Problems have only arisen fairly recently and for reasons having nothing to do with anything Taiwan or Japan has done.


In the past, Taiwan has also laid claim to the Senkakus, though I don't know their current position regarding the islands.
The Japanese claim on the Senkakus is solid from what I have read.
 
2021-03-08 3:28:17 AM  
Japan, Vietnam, the Philippines, etc. should get together and start building on the other various islands as a collective group. Have a few destroyers circle them "just in case". Have a few friendly visits by the US Navy.
 
2021-03-08 4:06:02 AM  
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2021-03-08 5:01:39 AM  

shinji3i: Amoment: And the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor!

Germans?


Not Germans, Prussians. To fight the Russians!
 
2021-03-08 5:11:55 AM  
Yeah. See. I knew people would be confused. This is not the Spratlys, this is not the South China Sea next to Vietnam or something. This is near Okinawa. I have been to the Senkakus, and they have some tourism there, and they grow sugarcane and they do fishing. They even have some floating solar installations and biogeneration facilities. They are not just rocks.

So if you talk to the fishermen there, you find astonishing things. The fishing.... coordination ... between the local Japanese and the Taiwanese is not ... apparently done at a national level. The locals of each nation get along pretty well, and they have their own little zones that they have worked out. And they have been worked out for decades from what I gather.

That is why I say that the Chinese getting involved in the area is really an intrusion. Of course it is a calculated move, I get it. And I get the big picture, but these are not just rocks out in the middle of nowhere.
 
2021-03-08 5:20:43 AM  

2fardownthread: Yeah. See. I knew people would be confused. This is not the Spratlys, this is not the South China Sea next to Vietnam or something. This is near Okinawa. I have been to the Senkakus, and they have some tourism there, and they grow sugarcane and they do fishing. They even have some floating solar installations and biogeneration facilities. They are not just rocks.


Tortured analogy: Your shiatty neighbor has gone from walking through the alley and giving you the side-eye to getting into the space between your car in it's parking lot and your back yard with a yardstick and paint.
 
2021-03-08 5:22:33 AM  
Here we go again.
 
2021-03-08 5:47:58 AM  

2fardownthread: I have been to the Senkakus, and they have some tourism there, and they grow sugarcane and they do fishing. They even have some floating solar installations and biogeneration facilities. They are not just rocks.


No they don't. I'm surprised to hear there's even tourism there, though a shrine has been built there (on Uotsuri-jima, I think).
They are pretty much just rocks.

You're not confusing them with the Ogasawara Islands, are you? They grow sugarcane there. Or the Amami Islands, which are near Okinawa, and are well-known for their sugarcane Shochu?
Or
 
2021-03-08 6:11:37 AM  
"Age of Samurai" got them riled up.
 
2021-03-08 6:18:58 AM  

jsmilky: too bad the Good Guys here are elderly anime freaks


Japan and China have a history, and it does not reflect well on Japan.

Not saying that China are being the dicks here.
 
2021-03-08 6:35:06 AM  

ByOwlLight: 2fardownthread: What might not be well known or obvious to a lot of people is that the Senkakus are between Japan and Taiwan, and they get along just fine, negotiating fishing and other various agreements in a perfectly normal way.

It  is unusual and well, a dickish move, for China to be asserting claims and causing problems there. Problems have only arisen fairly recently and for reasons having nothing to do with anything Taiwan or Japan has done.

I mean, one of the big theories behind why China started cracking on Hong Kong was to test the global response to see if they can eat Taiwan yet or not. Since the UK was being a farkfest about Brexit and the US derpland with Trump, the answer they got was "yeah, maybe you can get away with a lot, actually." So it's probably not just random jerk behavior.


I don't think it was a test at all. They read the situation you describe and used it to their advantage.
 
2021-03-08 6:36:30 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Japan wants to send their navy to "deal with" the Chinese navy?

Meaning what exactly?

China and Japan have been doing this dance of "I hate you. No I hate you. I HATE YOU EVEN HARDER! WELL THAT GOES DOUBLE FOR ME!" for ages. What this sounds like to me is Japan going over to China's neighborhood and doing a drive-by insult of their mother, and then likely retreating. To which my response is, if it doesn't involve giant fighting robots then meh.

Much like Russia, China seems keen to push the buttons of every other nation on earth. Russia does it by conducting military exercises where they're not wanted, and having near misses with US military personnel/equipment (and I'm sure many other countries as well). China's basically been saying "STAY OUT OF MY POOL, YOU GODDAMN KIDS!" for years. But interestingly they have no problem at all sending their fishing boats all the way to the coast of South America to try to steal those resources.

Conclusion: fark China, and fark Russia too.


Welcome to geopolitics! The last half-century of relative quiet is largely an aberration.
 
2021-03-08 7:26:21 AM  
If I wanted news about Japanese seamen, I'd subscribe to Cinemax.
 
2021-03-08 7:41:13 AM  
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2021-03-08 8:01:41 AM  

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2021-03-08 8:04:48 AM  
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2021-03-08 8:21:03 AM  

Theeng: For all the talk of the SCS, always remember that this is essentially a schoolyard argument. This is all posturing on China's part, Hong Kong is a far more important matter.  Japan is essentially just posturing back to let China know they won't let them have the Senkaku islands.

They won't invade Taiwan for the same reason they won't attack other the US, that sort of shooting war doesn't benefit them at all.


You think they'll just forget that they constantly pushing to expand their territory? That's not how communism works. They're boiling the frog and they're the best at doing it very slowly.
 
2021-03-08 8:23:22 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Japan wants to send their navy to "deal with" the Chinese navy?

Meaning what exactly?

China and Japan have been doing this dance of "I hate you. No I hate you. I HATE YOU EVEN HARDER! WELL THAT GOES DOUBLE FOR ME!" for ages. What this sounds like to me is Japan going over to China's neighborhood and doing a drive-by insult of their mother, and then likely retreating. To which my response is, if it doesn't involve giant fighting robots then meh.

Much like Russia, China seems keen to push the buttons of every other nation on earth. Russia does it by conducting military exercises where they're not wanted, and having near misses with US military personnel/equipment (and I'm sure many other countries as well). China's basically been saying "STAY OUT OF MY POOL, YOU GODDAMN KIDS!" for years. But interestingly they have no problem at all sending their fishing boats all the way to the coast of South America to try to steal those resources.

Conclusion: fark China, and fark Russia too.


The point is that it's NOT China's neighborhood. China is trying to make it their neighborhood and most of the rest of the world disagrees.
 
2021-03-08 8:35:49 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: Looks like standard creeping onto a neighboring country's territory and then slowly taking it over. Might need to park a few destroyers in the area to keep them away.


Yeah.

It's when they start deploying the Gundams that we need to start to be concerend.
 
2021-03-08 8:48:37 AM  

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2021-03-08 9:14:57 AM  

dpcotta: Theeng: For all the talk of the SCS, always remember that this is essentially a schoolyard argument. This is all posturing on China's part, Hong Kong is a far more important matter.  Japan is essentially just posturing back to let China know they won't let them have the Senkaku islands.

They won't invade Taiwan for the same reason they won't attack other the US, that sort of shooting war doesn't benefit them at all.

You think they'll just forget that they constantly pushing to expand their territory? That's not how communism works. They're boiling the frog and they're the best at doing it very slowly.


Yes.   Read up on China's "infrastructure projects" in the Caribbean and South America.   They are planting some slow growing but hardy Empire seeds.
 
2021-03-08 9:31:49 AM  

ObscureNameHere: dpcotta: Theeng: For all the talk of the SCS, always remember that this is essentially a schoolyard argument. This is all posturing on China's part, Hong Kong is a far more important matter.  Japan is essentially just posturing back to let China know they won't let them have the Senkaku islands.

They won't invade Taiwan for the same reason they won't attack other the US, that sort of shooting war doesn't benefit them at all.

You think they'll just forget that they constantly pushing to expand their territory? That's not how communism works. They're boiling the frog and they're the best at doing it very slowly.

Yes.   Read up on China's "infrastructure projects" in the Caribbean and South America.   They are planting some slow growing but hardy Empire seeds.


That and their "Silk Road" project across Asia and the Middle East and their investments in Africa.  Unless you get news from Al Jazerra or BBC you'd never know about it in the US because we're too busy trying to defend pictures of Chinamen and Pickaninnies in Doctor Seuss books than to care about ACTUAL threats to our global staying power.
 
2021-03-08 9:36:32 AM  
This will end well.
 
2021-03-08 10:10:18 AM  
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2021-03-08 1:13:53 PM  
First the Anal Covid tests and now this?

//I'd be butt-hurt too
 
2021-03-08 3:24:21 PM  
The Japanese were bound to re-arm eventually. And to tell the truth, the American nuclear and conventional umbrella is looking mighty frayed thanks to He Who Must Not Be Named.
 
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