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2021-03-06 9:19:15 PM  
Original Tweet:

 
2021-03-06 9:31:50 PM  
Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.
 
2021-03-06 9:50:31 PM  

feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.


You Republicans sure do hate helping people.

Unless they're already rich as hell and don't need help.
 
2021-03-06 9:56:20 PM  

Jack Sabbath: feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.

You Republicans sure do hate helping people.

Unless they're already rich as hell and don't need help.


Taking someone's student loans and making them part of the national debt doesn't help anyone it just pushes the problem off on our kids and grandkids.

I knew when I took mine I'd have to pay them, why do you want to change the game now. If there was fraud or something like that- such as at the ITT technical institute- then that is another story, but if you went to an accredited college and took out loans then pay them.
 
2021-03-06 9:57:57 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Unless they're already rich as hell and don't need help.


Student loan forgiveness is regressive, the most affluent quarter of the population has 77% of the outstanding student loans.

I mean if you really want to give me money, go ahead, but I've got enough of my own.
 
2021-03-06 10:05:34 PM  

feckingmorons: Jack Sabbath: feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.

You Republicans sure do hate helping people.

Unless they're already rich as hell and don't need help.

Taking someone's student loans and making them part of the national debt doesn't help anyone it just pushes the problem off on our kids and grandkids.

I knew when I took mine I'd have to pay them, why do you want to change the game now. If there was fraud or something like that- such as at the ITT technical institute- then that is another story, but if you went to an accredited college and took out loans then pay them.


You have a poor idea of what "national debt" means. It's not like personal or business debt, and doesn't have to be repaid by taxpayers. Since the federal government prints money, it can always borrow from itself. Too much national debt creates inflation, but inflation is low right now, which gives us ample room for stimulus, which is what the economy needs.
 
2021-03-06 10:22:20 PM  

allears: Since the federal government prints money, it can always borrow from itself.


Yeah, but that is bad.

We just had a 1.9T stimulus that we don't actually need most of, so perhaps we should shut the tap for a few decades.
 
2021-03-06 10:45:50 PM  

feckingmorons: allears: Since the federal government prints money, it can always borrow from itself.

Yeah, but that is bad.

We just had a 1.9T stimulus that we don't actually need most of, so perhaps we should shut the tap for a few decades.


Until the next Republican comes in and gives two trillion away to the top 2% and you'll have no problem with that tap being opened, even though if you receive anything it'll be a pittance.
 
2021-03-06 10:52:41 PM  

Jack Sabbath: feckingmorons: allears: Since the federal government prints money, it can always borrow from itself.

Yeah, but that is bad.

We just had a 1.9T stimulus that we don't actually need most of, so perhaps we should shut the tap for a few decades.

Until the next Republican comes in and gives two trillion away to the top 2% and you'll have no problem with that tap being opened, even though if you receive anything it'll be a pittance.


Nope, we should spend tax money on necessary things, not give it to special interests.
 
2021-03-07 2:14:10 AM  
Giving the COVID vaccine to people who haven't had COVID is unfair to those who caught it and survived on their own.

Also it costs money that could have gone to oil companies and/or Israel.

We just spent 1.9 trillion most of which we didn't need which is totally different to Trumps 2 trilliin giveaway to the ultrarich which was 100% neccesary.

All this money will need to be paid back by our kids and grandkids, I really don't want to see them in debt which is why I'm against cancelling their debt.

They will still have to pay for my social security checks, medicare and the massive military budget though, because fark those whiny Gen Z or whatever they're called.
 
2021-03-07 2:15:49 AM  
Go Cougars!
 
2021-03-07 2:20:48 AM  

feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.


Jesus Christ, Morons. I literally can't tell which end of the horseshoe you're on.
Throw in a clue, okay? Like this one, stickied at the top of Reddit's WayOfTheBerngroup:
preview.redd.it
No, wait. That doesn't help.

But anyway, please. I don't know which meme I should use to mock you.
 
2021-03-07 2:21:31 AM  
I wersh myself with a rag on a stick
 
2021-03-07 2:21:54 AM  

Mr.Insightful: feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.

Jesus Christ, Morons. I literally can't tell which end of the horseshoe you're on.
Throw in a clue, okay? Like this one, stickied at the top of Reddit's WayOfTheBerngroup:
[preview.redd.it image 850x88]
No, wait. That doesn't help.

But anyway, please. I don't know which meme I should use to mock you.


WayOfTheBern has always been run by right wingers trying to manipulate gullible false-left-wing populists
 
2021-03-07 2:24:03 AM  
Comments when I click: 17.
Comments shown: 7.

Wow the cone of silence is doing some heavy lifting in this thread. I'm going to assume I've missed nothing of substance.
 
2021-03-07 2:26:09 AM  
Great.

Now we just have to surprise Biden so that he dies of a heart attack or something, since he's drawn a line in the sand and sworn before god an man that he'll personally strangle his surviving child to death with his bare hands before any person in need is allowed any debt relief beyond an expired 5$ coupon to the Sizzler.

He's told us this repeatedly, and made a huge point of directly telling Democratic Party voters especially how much he thinks they can take their 100% approval rating and shove it up the ass of the 100% of economists who say that full student debt relief would be an unambiguous benefit to the nation with literally no downsides whatsoever.  He arbitrarily opposes it directly in the face of all evidence with the fervor that most people reserve for their actual religion, so the chances that anyone will get the crusty old fascist to see reason are... not high.

feckingmorons: allears: Since the federal government prints money, it can always borrow from itself.


Yeah, but that is bad.


In one corner, literally every actual economist in general where the word "economist" doesn't need to be enclosed in sarcasm quotes saying that it's not bad, and that in fact national debt represents an abstraction of leveraged value meaning something entirely different from individual debt that could be called in.  A lesson so universal that even intro economics and polysci classes for undergraduates teach it pretty early in the lesson plan.

In the other corner, some random moron from the internet who's schtick is to be so consistently wrong about everything that if he got any more wrong we'd have to change his handle to "Paul Krugman".

Hrm, who to trust... such a hard decision.
 
2021-03-07 2:28:26 AM  

feckingmorons: Nope, we should spend tax money on necessary things, not give it to special interests.


Hey! I've got it!

YOU'D SUPPORT JOE IF HE ACTED LIKE TRUMP

Cool! So I have good news, Morons. This is a 100% accurate Tweet from our President. Don't bother to fact check. I know you guys aren't big on that, but I decided to mention it.

Fark user imageView Full Size


There! Feeling better now?
 
2021-03-07 2:29:19 AM  
Okay was this really going to add thousands of dollars in taxes to anyone?

Anyway I had proposed placating the butthurt by also offering a $15k (or whatever) income deduction for those who don't get this assistance, which would technically be fair. But of course good ideas fall by the wayside...
 
2021-03-07 2:30:40 AM  

feckingmorons: Jack Sabbath: feckingmorons: allears: Since the federal government prints money, it can always borrow from itself.

Yeah, but that is bad.

We just had a 1.9T stimulus that we don't actually need most of, so perhaps we should shut the tap for a few decades.

Until the next Republican comes in and gives two trillion away to the top 2% and you'll have no problem with that tap being opened, even though if you receive anything it'll be a pittance.

Nope, we should spend tax money on necessary things, not give it to special interests.


I didn't know that children and education were not necessary things. Thanks for the tip.
 
2021-03-07 2:31:51 AM  

Original: Original Tweet:

SenWarren: I'm happy that my bill with @SenatorMenendez to make any student loan forgiveness tax-free was included in the COVID relief bill. This clears the way for President Biden to #CancelStudentDebt without burdening student borrowers with thousands of dollars in unexpected taxes.


Warren is awesome.
 
2021-03-07 2:32:34 AM  

feckingmorons: Taking someone's student loans and making them part of the national debt


It's not debt, it's just money created.

Debt is meaningless to an entity that prints its own money.
 
2021-03-07 2:32:50 AM  
This thread went into trollception.
 
2021-03-07 2:33:55 AM  

Ringshadow: Comments when I click: 17.
Comments shown: 7.

Wow the cone of silence is doing some heavy lifting in this thread. I'm going to assume I've missed nothing of substance.


Yeah it's been bad yesterday, there was one thread where i had more than half the comments hidden.
 
2021-03-07 2:34:03 AM  
Graduated from college with no debt thanks to GI Bill & grants. GI Bill house paid off a long time ago. I owe no one nothing, & ditto for Hubby.

I would draw enough on the GI Bill to pay for the semester books & tuition. I went to a state school (CA) & paid $900/semester plus books. My degree may not have the cachet of some schools but it's just as valid, & that was all I needed. I never planned to have some fancy-schmancy "name" diploma. I figured after my first job, nobody would care where I went to school, just what I'd done since, do why spend?

Retired now. Nice pensions (note the plurals). I think my plan worked. & Military service let me travel & have fun.
 
2021-03-07 2:34:34 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Now we just have to surprise Biden so that he dies of a heart attack or something, since he's drawn a line in the sand and sworn before god an man that he'll personally strangle his surviving child to death with his bare hands before any person in need is allowed any debt relief beyond an expired 5$ coupon to the Sizzler.


go troll somewhere else
 
2021-03-07 2:35:38 AM  

puffy999: Okay was this really going to add thousands of dollars in taxes to anyone?

Anyway I had proposed placating the butthurt by also offering a $15k (or whatever) income deduction for those who don't get this assistance, which would technically be fair. But of course good ideas fall by the wayside...


Do you also advocate having firefighters use their hoses on houses that are not on fire because that would technically be "fair"?
 
2021-03-07 2:38:00 AM  

Kazan: Mr.Insightful: feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.

Jesus Christ, Morons. I literally can't tell which end of the horseshoe you're on.
Throw in a clue, okay? Like this one, stickied at the top of Reddit's WayOfTheBerngroup:
[preview.redd.it image 850x88]
No, wait. That doesn't help.

But anyway, please. I don't know which meme I should use to mock you.

WayOfTheBern has always been run by right wingers trying to manipulate gullible false-left-wing populists


You want to see something tangentially related?

A spate of fake stories spread on the internet were made to make people register it is a fake story, and then discern the author was some left-wing caricature and proceed to hate liberals/leftists.

Tumblr's FAKEST Story: The Tale of Oppa Homeless Style
Youtube BiU7aGZ-o68


I fastforwarded to the important bit.

Farking weirdos will go to any lengths. I'd always be suspicious of people's motivations.
 
2021-03-07 2:41:43 AM  

feckingmorons: Jack Sabbath: feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.

You Republicans sure do hate helping people.

Unless they're already rich as hell and don't need help.

Taking someone's student loans and making them part of the national debt doesn't help anyone it just pushes the problem off on our kids and grandkids.


You're wrong.

It's a good investment.  In the long term it will improve the economy more than it will increase our debt service and make paying our debts easier for our kids and grandkids, not harder.  It will also allow our kids and grandkids not to have to purposely be less educated for fear of debt.  That's way way way more than worth whatever pittance of a cost it is.
 
2021-03-07 2:42:39 AM  

feckingmorons: Jack Sabbath: feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.

You Republicans sure do hate helping people.

Unless they're already rich as hell and don't need help.

Taking someone's student loans and making them part of the national debt doesn't help anyone it just pushes the problem off on our kids and grandkids.

I knew when I took mine I'd have to pay them, why do you want to change the game now. If there was fraud or something like that- such as at the ITT technical institute- then that is another story, but if you went to an accredited college and took out loans then pay them.


Which one of your degrees did you take out loans on? JD? MD? CPA?

You claim expertise in all these fields, so I lose track.
 
2021-03-07 2:44:47 AM  
feckingmorons:

Yeah, but that is bad.

Inflation is averaging only 1.5% annually.  America printed up 4.5 trillion last year and inflation barely wobbled in response because inflation is so low right now.
 
2021-03-07 2:44:54 AM  

Lurk Who's Talking: Graduated from college with no debt thanks to GI Bill & grants. GI Bill house paid off a long time ago. I owe no one nothing, & ditto for Hubby.

I would draw enough on the GI Bill to pay for the semester books & tuition. I went to a state school (CA) & paid $900/semester plus books. My degree may not have the cachet of some schools but it's just as valid, & that was all I needed. I never planned to have some fancy-schmancy "name" diploma. I figured after my first job, nobody would care where I went to school, just what I'd done since, do why spend?

Retired now. Nice pensions (note the plurals). I think my plan worked. & Military service let me travel & have fun.


I tried that plan. Unfortunately, the military wouldn't allow me to enlist because I have psoriasis, so I did not have that option available. There's a pretty long list of conditions that would prevent someone from being able to serve in the military:

https://www.military.com/join-armed-f​o​rces/disqualifiers-medical-conditions.​html

So getting college paid for isn't quite so simple as joining the military for a good number of people.
 
2021-03-07 2:45:17 AM  

Lurk Who's Talking: Graduated from college with no debt thanks to GI Bill & grants. GI Bill house paid off a long time ago. I owe no one nothing, & ditto for Hubby.

I would draw enough on the GI Bill to pay for the semester books & tuition. I went to a state school (CA) & paid $900/semester plus books. My degree may not have the cachet of some schools but it's just as valid, & that was all I needed. I never planned to have some fancy-schmancy "name" diploma. I figured after my first job, nobody would care where I went to school, just what I'd done since, do why spend?

Retired now. Nice pensions (note the plurals). I think my plan worked. & Military service let me travel & have fun.


You'd be lucky to get your books for $900 a semester today. Pension? What is that?

/Thank you for your service
 
2021-03-07 2:45:29 AM  

Gawdzila: feckingmorons: Jack Sabbath: feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.

You Republicans sure do hate helping people.

Unless they're already rich as hell and don't need help.

Taking someone's student loans and making them part of the national debt doesn't help anyone it just pushes the problem off on our kids and grandkids.

You're wrong.

It's a good investment.  In the long term it will improve the economy more than it will increase our debt service and make paying our debts easier for our kids and grandkids, not harder.  It will also allow our kids and grandkids not to have to purposely be less educated for fear of debt.  That's way way way more than worth whatever pittance of a cost it is.


Yup, we need allof our future generations to be fear of this menace they must contend with to get a good education.
 
2021-03-07 2:46:38 AM  

feckingmorons: I knew when I took mine I'd have to pay them, why do you want to change the game now.


Because a degree is both more necessary now and has vastly outpaced inflation in cost.  You got to pay for yours when it was both more cheap and more optional.  Bully for you, but don't pretend like you played the same game that exists now.  The rules have already changed and you got to play on Easy mode.
 
2021-03-07 2:47:31 AM  
Make student debt dischargable in bankruptcy so it has to come out of the bottom line of the banks. Teach them a lesson for trying to use government to exploit people.
 
2021-03-07 2:50:05 AM  

puffy999: Okay was this really going to add thousands of dollars in taxes to anyone?

Anyway I had proposed placating the butthurt by also offering a $15k (or whatever) income deduction for those who don't get this assistance, which would technically be fair. But of course good ideas fall by the wayside...


The thing about student loans is, they are such a horrible idea from the get go. They have always been bad policy. Loans are a horrible way to pay for an education. This is historically demonstrated. Default rates for student loans have always been high. This is, in part, why student loans had to be guaranteed by the government.

Then again, this has been known. It's been known for the last 50 years, public information. Anyone who took out a student loan was doing so despite it being known that student loans were a bad investment. Yes, there was an industry that was actively pushing student loans. There are people out there who try to sell all sorts of things that you don't need or that are not actually good investments. "Let the buyer beware" is a US manifesto promoted by the PT Barnums.

It is true that US policy essentially pushed students towards student loans as a way to fund their education. This was bad. In some sense, it should be US policy to undo that damage. How do you do that in a way that doesn't simply reward those who were foolish and took out large loans?
 
2021-03-07 2:50:39 AM  
Jim_Callahan:

In the other corner, some random moron from the internet who's schtick is to be so consistently wrong about everything that if he got any more wrong we'd have to change his handle to "Paul Krugman Larry Kudlow".

Better fit.
 
2021-03-07 2:51:48 AM  

Lurk Who's Talking: Graduated from college with no debt thanks to GI Bill & grants. GI Bill house paid off a long time ago. I owe no one nothing, & ditto for Hubby.

I would draw enough on the GI Bill to pay for the semester books & tuition. I went to a state school (CA) & paid $900/semester plus books. My degree may not have the cachet of some schools but it's just as valid, & that was all I needed. I never planned to have some fancy-schmancy "name" diploma. I figured after my first job, nobody would care where I went to school, just what I'd done since, do why spend?

Retired now. Nice pensions (note the plurals). I think my plan worked. & Military service let me travel & have fun.


I got mine easy so quit whining!
- Mrs Boomer T. Boomerton
 
2021-03-07 2:58:28 AM  

Lurk Who's Talking: Graduated from college with no debt thanks to GI Bill & grants. GI Bill house paid off a long time ago. I owe no one nothing, & ditto for Hubby.

I would draw enough on the GI Bill to pay for the semester books & tuition. I went to a state school (CA) & paid $900/semester plus books. My degree may not have the cachet of some schools but it's just as valid, & that was all I needed. I never planned to have some fancy-schmancy "name" diploma. I figured after my first job, nobody would care where I went to school, just what I'd done since, do why spend?

Retired now. Nice pensions (note the plurals). I think my plan worked. & Military service let me travel & have fun.


So they can get farked out of their GI bennies like the brother did, right when he was trying to go to college and his girlfriend got pregnant (dumbass move bro)... so he had to re-up and then they sent his special forces ass to aghanistan 3 more times and he comes back from the last deployment with a healed gunshot wound and PTSD.  Then they underfund the VA so he can't get the mental healthcare he needs and he hangs himself.

great plan.  send people to die so they can get an education.
 
2021-03-07 3:13:26 AM  

wademh: puffy999: Okay was this really going to add thousands of dollars in taxes to anyone?

Anyway I had proposed placating the butthurt by also offering a $15k (or whatever) income deduction for those who don't get this assistance, which would technically be fair. But of course good ideas fall by the wayside...

The thing about student loans is, they are such a horrible idea from the get go. They have always been bad policy. Loans are a horrible way to pay for an education. This is historically demonstrated. Default rates for student loans have always been high. This is, in part, why student loans had to be guaranteed by the government.

Then again, this has been known. It's been known for the last 50 years, public information. Anyone who took out a student loan was doing so despite it being known that student loans were a bad investment. Yes, there was an industry that was actively pushing student loans. There are people out there who try to sell all sorts of things that you don't need or that are not actually good investments. "Let the buyer beware" is a US manifesto promoted by the PT Barnums.

It is true that US policy essentially pushed students towards student loans as a way to fund their education. This was bad. In some sense, it should be US policy to undo that damage. How do you do that in a way that doesn't simply reward those who were foolish and took out large loans?


We just do it. We help everyone. So we help 10% that were reckless in the process. That amount of waste is worth helping the other 90%. It would be akin to saying 'we can't help starving mothers feed their kids because 10% might have been assholes. So sorry 90%!
 
2021-03-07 3:13:55 AM  

Kazan: Lurk Who's Talking: Graduated from college with no debt thanks to GI Bill & grants. GI Bill house paid off a long time ago. I owe no one nothing, & ditto for Hubby.

I would draw enough on the GI Bill to pay for the semester books & tuition. I went to a state school (CA) & paid $900/semester plus books. My degree may not have the cachet of some schools but it's just as valid, & that was all I needed. I never planned to have some fancy-schmancy "name" diploma. I figured after my first job, nobody would care where I went to school, just what I'd done since, do why spend?

Retired now. Nice pensions (note the plurals). I think my plan worked. & Military service let me travel & have fun.

So they can get farked out of their GI bennies like the brother did, right when he was trying to go to college and his girlfriend got pregnant (dumbass move bro)... so he had to re-up and then they sent his special forces ass to aghanistan 3 more times and he comes back from the last deployment with a healed gunshot wound and PTSD.  Then they underfund the VA so he can't get the mental healthcare he needs and he hangs himself.

great plan.  send people to die so they can get an education.


Was just going to mention this.
Brother in law enlisted, armored cav.
He just came home with damaged hearing, bad back, wrecked knees and PTSD. While he was in 3+ soldiers he knew committed suicide.

Lurk was one of the lucky ones.
 
2021-03-07 3:23:23 AM  

Gawdzila: feckingmorons: I knew when I took mine I'd have to pay them, why do you want to change the game now.

Because a degree is both more necessary now and has vastly outpaced inflation in cost.  You got to pay for yours when it was both more cheap and more optional.  Bully for you, but don't pretend like you played the same game that exists now.  The rules have already changed and you got to play on Easy mode.


I like to use this one to help people think about the cost of education.

Student Loans | Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj | Netflix
Youtube t0CyBv18A5k
 
2021-03-07 3:24:37 AM  

Ringshadow: Comments when I click: 17.
Comments shown: 7.

Wow the cone of silence is doing some heavy lifting in this thread. I'm going to assume I've missed nothing of substance.


You are correct.
 
2021-03-07 3:26:11 AM  

feckingmorons: Unicorns and rainbows are tax free as well.
You're not getting $2K checks, you're not getting $15/h minimum wage and you're not getting your student loans forgiven.


except, well, we are.
 
2021-03-07 3:26:17 AM  

Fart_Machine: This thread went into trollception.


It never had a chance.
 
2021-03-07 3:27:25 AM  
And this one.

Hasan Minhaj Calls Out Congress Over Student Loans: 'You Paid Far Less For Your Degrees' | NBC News
Youtube jfIDh2yGn_g
 
2021-03-07 3:28:53 AM  

Kazan: Lurk Who's Talking: Graduated from college with no debt thanks to GI Bill & grants. GI Bill house paid off a long time ago. I owe no one nothing, & ditto for Hubby.

I would draw enough on the GI Bill to pay for the semester books & tuition. I went to a state school (CA) & paid $900/semester plus books. My degree may not have the cachet of some schools but it's just as valid, & that was all I needed. I never planned to have some fancy-schmancy "name" diploma. I figured after my first job, nobody would care where I went to school, just what I'd done since, do why spend?

Retired now. Nice pensions (note the plurals). I think my plan worked. & Military service let me travel & have fun.

So they can get farked out of their GI bennies like the brother did, right when he was trying to go to college and his girlfriend got pregnant (dumbass move bro)... so he had to re-up and then they sent his special forces ass to aghanistan 3 more times and he comes back from the last deployment with a healed gunshot wound and PTSD.  Then they underfund the VA so he can't get the mental healthcare he needs and he hangs himself.

great plan.  send people to die so they can get an education.


i have zero issue with tying some form of civil service to college funding, in principle. Either military, or civil service, volunteering at the red cross or working in old folks homes or whatever.

what we should be doing is a lot less war fighting at this point. its crazy we're STILL in afghanistan. there are people in th emilitary now who werent even BORN when 9/11 happened.
 
2021-03-07 3:31:04 AM  
You know what's "funny" everyone accepts that education should be freely available from K-12, but the moment you propose extending this to higher education, suddenly people biatch.

I swear, the same people must have been making the same tired arguments in 1890 when people were proposing everyone send their kids to school during the winter since they couldn't work on the farm anyway.
"But we need Timmy at home to chop firewood to survive the season!" they must have screeched.

But today, if you propose keeping a kid from learning to read and write and do basic maths that would be considered cruel.

Just, fark people standing in the way of progress at every turn.
 
2021-03-07 3:31:08 AM  

Mr.Insightful: feckingmorons: Nope, we should spend tax money on necessary things, not give it to special interests.

Hey! I've got it!

YOU'D SUPPORT JOE IF HE ACTED LIKE TRUMP

Cool! So I have good news, Morons. This is a 100% accurate Tweet from our President. Don't bother to fact check. I know you guys aren't big on that, but I decided to mention it.

[Fark user image 640x502]

There! Feeling better now?


Seems to be missing a blue check.
 
2021-03-07 3:33:11 AM  

HerptheDerp: You know what's "funny" everyone accepts that education should be freely available from K-12, but the moment you propose extending this to higher education, suddenly people biatch.

I swear, the same people must have been making the same tired arguments in 1890 when people were proposing everyone send their kids to school during the winter since they couldn't work on the farm anyway.
"But we need Timmy at home to chop firewood to survive the season!" they must have screeched.

But today, if you propose keeping a kid from learning to read and write and do basic maths that would be considered cruel.

Just, fark people standing in the way of progress at every turn.


Higher education is overpriced. Even state schools are overpriced these days.

I went to law school and got a doctorate outside the US and paid less than 20K total. We should stop holding the bachelors (and often overpriced private school Bachelors) out as the holy grail. I bet there are plenty of electricians and plumbers without degrees that make more than I do.
 
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