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(The Hill)   Hard to believe, youngsters, but it used to be that 90%-plus of the country watched one of three network news shows, for just 30 minutes a day. The most-watched was Walter Cronkite, whose last show was 40 years ago today   (thehill.com) divider line
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2021-03-06 1:48:00 PM  
Ok Boomer
 
2021-03-06 1:49:40 PM  
Gaaahhh!! Mods: please change "than" to "that."

/almost 20 years here and still don't get "Preview is your firewall against looking dumb"
 
2021-03-06 1:50:12 PM  

Commander Lysdexic: Ok Boomer


Done in 1
 
2021-03-06 1:58:05 PM  
And that's the way it is
 
2021-03-06 1:59:33 PM  

freddyV: And that's the way it is


And that was the way we liked it uh huh uh huh.
 
2021-03-06 2:16:29 PM  
When you remove all the opinions about news, roughly 30 minutes is all that remains.
 
2021-03-06 5:41:32 PM  
Together with Huntley-Brinkley, Cronkite presided over the era in which television overcame newspapers as the source where most Americans got their news.

I preferred the Huntley-Brinkley Report because they played Beethoven's 9th to close the show.

Symphony No. 9, 2nd Movement (Huntley-Brinkley Report)
Youtube vTMdfjy2a5I
 
2021-03-06 6:58:03 PM  

DeathBySarcasm: When you remove all the opinions about news, roughly 30 minutes is all that remains.


There is no such thing as 'the straight news.' Determining what is newsworthy is not a purely objective task. Cronkite may have been perfectly objective in reporting the stories he reported, but that doesn't mean all of the stories are of real public interest or that events aren't being ignored because they may be embarrassing to corporate ownership.
 
2021-03-06 7:02:33 PM  
Over the past year, I've seen a lot more network news. There's a lot to be said for it. The breathless cable networks hype everything to death.
 
2021-03-06 7:07:58 PM  
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2021-03-06 7:08:16 PM  

Speaker2Animals: Commander Lysdexic: Ok Boomer

Done in 1


What wit.
 
2021-03-06 7:12:35 PM  
It's easier than ever to be completely uninformed.


Case in point:
STUDY: Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All
https://outline.com/https://www.busin​e​ssinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-​makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-​no-news-at-all-2012-5


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2021-03-06 7:12:47 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: There is no such thing as 'the straight news.' Determining what is newsworthy is not a purely objective task. Cronkite may have been perfectly objective in reporting the stories he reported, but that doesn't mean all of the stories are of real public interest or that events aren't being ignored because they may be embarrassing to corporate ownership.


Not all news is created equal, and the traditional network news broadcasts still cover the most nationally-relevant stories in thirty minutes or less.  To this day.   For everything else there is Fark.  

Also, Cronkite leaned a little to the right, but everyone was okay with that, as long as Walter kept it professional, which he (mostly) did.
 
2021-03-06 7:13:13 PM  
I used to deliver morning and evening newspapers. Often to the same address.

TV newscasts, at the time, only had the amount of news on about half of one page of a newspaper IIRC.  Maybe less.
 
2021-03-06 7:14:42 PM  
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2021-03-06 7:15:18 PM  

DeathBySarcasm: When you remove all the opinions about news, roughly 30 minutes is all that remains.


When the local news programs all asked for an additional 5 minutes and the late night talk shows caved, I was shocked. With all the filler in the news programs, what in the hell would they add? Nothing, as it turned out, except more blather and more filler.
 
2021-03-06 7:16:00 PM  

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Cronkite wouldn't even be employed. At best he would have a podcast that last 2 years before before it became too expensive to operate more than once a week. In the 2010s and onward.

We have plenty of people with integrity. But integrity comes at a cost. One that companies don't want to pay for, and people with integrity wouldn't work for peanuts for.

Feels like blaming a guy for rolling coal whole ignoring British Petroleum for doing more damage than 1 person ever could cause.
 
2021-03-06 7:20:22 PM  
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2021-03-06 7:21:06 PM  

Cafe Threads: DeathBySarcasm: When you remove all the opinions about news, roughly 30 minutes is all that remains.

When the local news programs all asked for an additional 5 minutes and the late night talk shows caved, I was shocked. With all the filler in the news programs, what in the hell would they add? Nothing, as it turned out, except more blather and more filler.


I try hard not to watch news, but news keep finding me with videos.

Gimme that written word.
 
2021-03-06 7:25:44 PM  
And 20 years later, the Most Trusted Man in News was a supporting actor in "The Faculty" on a comedy show.
 
2021-03-06 7:26:59 PM  
JFK assassination: Cronkite informs a shocked nation
Youtube 6PXORQE5-CY
 
2021-03-06 7:29:52 PM  
He started college at the University of Texas, but left before graduating

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He was an early Deplorable.
 
2021-03-06 7:29:54 PM  

DeathBySarcasm: Also, Cronkite leaned a little to the right, but everyone was okay with that, as long as Walter kept it professional, which he (mostly) did.


You've obviously never read his autobiography.  He basically openly admitted to being heavily biased and it wasn't towards the conservative side.  But he also claimed to try and tell the truth even when he didn't like it.

Which is probably where the idea that he leaned towards the right came from.
 
2021-03-06 7:31:51 PM  
Yup.

I was a dorm-dwelling college student back then. A group of us gathered around someone's portable TV to watch Cronkite for the last time. It was a little sad...the end of an era.

Reagan was shot later that month. I wonder how Cronkite would have covered the story.
 
2021-03-06 7:35:33 PM  
People used to read newspapers as well as news/editorial magazines like The New Yorker, Time, and Life.

Besides, a lot of people still watch less than 30 minutes of news a day from less than 3 sources.
 
2021-03-06 7:36:18 PM  

nobody11155: DeathBySarcasm: Also, Cronkite leaned a little to the right, but everyone was okay with that, as long as Walter kept it professional, which he (mostly) did.

You've obviously never read his autobiography.  He basically openly admitted to being heavily biased and it wasn't towards the conservative side.  But he also claimed to try and tell the truth even when he didn't like it.

Which is probably where the idea that he leaned towards the right came from.


And Nixon realized he had lost the war in Vietnam as soon as Cronkite started opposing it on-air, because he knew, at that point in history, as Cronkite went, so did the country, because America trusted Walter Cronkite more than they trusted their politicians.
 
2021-03-06 7:37:54 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: He started college at the University of Texas, but left before graduating

.
He was an early Deplorable.


And there it is. The stupidest thing I've read all week. Right under the wire
 
2021-03-06 7:38:03 PM  
Checking in, and that's the way it is...
 
2021-03-06 7:38:16 PM  
Well that was the only way to get the day's news. With newspapers you had to wait until the next day to get the news, unless they had an evening edition. There was no Twitter and there was no CNN or other 24 news channel. If you wanted to know the national/international news you had to watch one of those three newscasts.
 
2021-03-06 7:39:58 PM  
Anyone remember David Brinkley's final broadcast? Stuff of Legends®


/ Farking Awesome!
// Older than dirt
/// Barman at the Last Supper, I was
 
2021-03-06 7:40:03 PM  
Chris Wallace's greatest nightmare should be a knock at the door and when he opens it Mike Wallace is standing there who says "Son, I'm your father Mike Wallace, I'm here from 60 Minutes and want to address the great shame you've brought to our family."

/and not just for the shame part, but a zombie Mike Wallace would be pretty goddam terrifying.
 
2021-03-06 7:40:07 PM  

freddyV: And that's the way it is


40 years ago today, it was for the last time.

Unfortunately hasn't been that way since.
 
2021-03-06 7:40:37 PM  

WaltCronkite: Checking in, and that's the way it is...


User name checks out!
 
2021-03-06 7:41:41 PM  

Commander Lysdexic: Ok Boomer


Community - Duh
Youtube YClAMYTEuZ0
 
2021-03-06 7:41:55 PM  
And just look how much better we are doing now
 
2021-03-06 7:42:14 PM  
I looked for some archive of his broadcasts. Not the big important news. Just the day-to-day stuff. I would like to see for myself if he had a noticeable bias and distorted the news.
 
2021-03-06 7:43:11 PM  
I am undecided whether the world is better or worse off since CNN went live in 1980. Obviously they were just the beginning, but are we truly better off?
//Honestly, I am not really sure.
 
2021-03-06 7:49:10 PM  

ClavellBCMI: nobody11155: DeathBySarcasm: Also, Cronkite leaned a little to the right, but everyone was okay with that, as long as Walter kept it professional, which he (mostly) did.

You've obviously never read his autobiography.  He basically openly admitted to being heavily biased and it wasn't towards the conservative side.  But he also claimed to try and tell the truth even when he didn't like it.

Which is probably where the idea that he leaned towards the right came from.

And Nixon realized he had lost the war in Vietnam as soon as Cronkite started opposing it on-air, because he knew, at that point in history, as Cronkite went, so did the country, because America trusted Walter Cronkite more than they trusted their politicians.


That was LBJ, and why he decided not to run in the Spring of '68.
 
2021-03-06 7:49:48 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: DeathBySarcasm: When you remove all the opinions about news, roughly 30 minutes is all that remains.

There is no such thing as 'the straight news.' Determining what is newsworthy is not a purely objective task. Cronkite may have been perfectly objective in reporting the stories he reported, but that doesn't mean all of the stories are of real public interest or that events aren't being ignored because they may be embarrassing to corporate ownership.


They covered the straight news. And the white news. And the man news.
 
2021-03-06 7:49:59 PM  

Farkin Charlie: I am undecided whether the world is better or worse off since CNN went live in 1980. Obviously they were just the beginning, but are we truly better off?
//Honestly, I am not really sure.


Well the world is certainly better off to have 24 hour new channels, but even before them the 3 networks would break in with important news. Also along with CNN came FOX News, OAN, NewsMax, etc. so it's going down a bad road now. But those aren't really 24 hour news channels as much as propaganda channels.
 
2021-03-06 7:51:41 PM  

FarkingChas: I would like to see for myself if he had a noticeable bias and distorted the news.


Archie Bunker would frequently refer to "That pinko, Cronkite" on All In The Family, so clearly the writers were reflecting what the buzz on the right was over the guy.

I was just 12 when he retired, and mostly remember him talking about inflation and heavily armed guerilla warriors in faraway places.

I'd know idea what inflation was, but gorillas with machine guns attacking government loyalists was an easy image to conjure.
 
2021-03-06 7:54:50 PM  

Walker: Well that was the only way to get the day's news. With newspapers you had to wait until the next day to get the news, unless they had an evening edition. There was no Twitter and there was no CNN or other 24 news channel. If you wanted to know the national/international news you had to watch one of those three newscasts.


And there was nothing wrong with that.

Farkin Charlie: I am undecided whether the world is better or worse off since CNN went live in 1980. Obviously they were just the beginning, but are we truly better off?
//Honestly, I am not really sure.


Yeah, exactly. I used to watch CNN when it was brand new (lived in Georgia) and although it was interesting--it was also the beginning of cable/satellite TV--you quickly started thinking, but this isn't really news. This is a lot of talking. I'm not very fond of talking heads, generally. Just give me the facts.
There's no way to be objective or do hard news for 24 hours a day. They couldn't afford it. So started trash TV, reality shows, infomercials, and people we'd never need to see or hear our entire lives, right there in front of us, doing whatever they want, and getting paid for it. too.  The more outrageous the better.
/Well you don't have to watch it!
//I DON'T
 
2021-03-06 7:56:25 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: ClavellBCMI: nobody11155: DeathBySarcasm: Also, Cronkite leaned a little to the right, but everyone was okay with that, as long as Walter kept it professional, which he (mostly) did.

You've obviously never read his autobiography.  He basically openly admitted to being heavily biased and it wasn't towards the conservative side.  But he also claimed to try and tell the truth even when he didn't like it.

Which is probably where the idea that he leaned towards the right came from.

And Nixon realized he had lost the war in Vietnam as soon as Cronkite started opposing it on-air, because he knew, at that point in history, as Cronkite went, so did the country, because America trusted Walter Cronkite more than they trusted their politicians.

That was LBJ, and why he decided not to run in the Spring of '68.


Nixon knew he was screwed as well with regards to Vietnam, but he was stuck by his party into continuing the war because Commies=BAD.
 
2021-03-06 7:58:08 PM  
And somewhere today I just saw an article about how one of the three networks had a news broadcast this week that just walloped the cable channels.  Almost like people are waking up to the notion that cable news is driven by ratings not integrity.  Just like those bad old network news shows.  But since networks are limited to 30 minutes or maybe an hour, they aren't filled with opinion trying to pass itself off as fact.
 
2021-03-06 7:58:36 PM  

nobody11155: DeathBySarcasm: Also, Cronkite leaned a little to the right, but everyone was okay with that, as long as Walter kept it professional, which he (mostly) did.

You've obviously never read his autobiography.  He basically openly admitted to being heavily biased and it wasn't towards the conservative side.  But he also claimed to try and tell the truth even when he didn't like it.

Which is probably where the idea that he leaned towards the right came from.


I'll have to read it.  I confess Cronkite is slightly before my time, so my introduction to him was his constant bashing of Dan Rather, which was so over the top I had him pegged as a Republican.
 
2021-03-06 8:00:13 PM  
I for one get my news from a 29-yo influencer named Chelsea who looks amazing in yoga pants and has some really cool tats.
 
2021-03-06 8:01:48 PM  
Long before Murdoch, and long before TV news was even a thing, much less the internet, there was Hearst, who basically started a war to sell newspapers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William​_​Randolph_Hearst#Spanish%E2%80%93Americ​an_War

There's always been serious, fact-based journalism, and there's always been manipulative bullshiat. Who's doing the second, and what medium they favor changes from generation to generation, but the idea there was some golden age of a few shining beacons of straight news, with nothing else to read or watch (or at least nothing else having major influence), is not, and has never been true. There are times when the balance shifts more (or less) in favor of real news over bullshiat, but it's a never-ending battle.
 
2021-03-06 8:07:04 PM  

cryinoutloud: I used to watch CNN when it was brand new (lived in Georgia) and although it was interesting--it was also the beginning of cable/satellite TV--you quickly started thinking, but this isn't really news. This is a lot of talking. I'm not very fond of talking heads, generally. Just give me the facts.


I enjoyed their 30 minute Headline News show from back in the mid '80s

It repeated every half hour, 24 hours a day, with a new story inserted every other hour or so, and was pretty much just straight news with something light at the end. It was great just as background noise.

They really poisoned the well around the same time with Crossfire though.
 
2021-03-06 8:07:34 PM  

UberNeuman: Chris Wallace's greatest nightmare should be a knock at the door and when he opens it Mike Wallace is standing there who says "Son, I'm your father Mike Wallace, I'm here from 60 Minutes and want to address the great shame you've brought to our family."

/and not just for the shame part, but a zombie Mike Wallace would be pretty goddam terrifying.


Don't forget zombie Andy Rooney

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2021-03-06 8:08:13 PM  

cryinoutloud: Walker: Well that was the only way to get the day's news. With newspapers you had to wait until the next day to get the news, unless they had an evening edition. There was no Twitter and there was no CNN or other 24 news channel. If you wanted to know the national/international news you had to watch one of those three newscasts.

And there was nothing wrong with that.

Farkin Charlie: I am undecided whether the world is better or worse off since CNN went live in 1980. Obviously they were just the beginning, but are we truly better off?
//Honestly, I am not really sure.

Yeah, exactly. I used to watch CNN when it was brand new (lived in Georgia) and although it was interesting--it was also the beginning of cable/satellite TV--you quickly started thinking, but this isn't really news. This is a lot of talking. I'm not very fond of talking heads, generally. Just give me the facts.
There's no way to be objective or do hard news for 24 hours a day. They couldn't afford it. So started trash TV, reality shows, infomercials, and people we'd never need to see or hear our entire lives, right there in front of us, doing whatever they want, and getting paid for it. too.  The more outrageous the better.
/Well you don't have to watch it!
//I DON'T


The MacNeil/Lehrer news hour was always the best source of news. Though I think it had a different name in the 70s, I was too young to remember, and didn't get hooked until the 80s. I was a PBS junkie for much of my early life. It all started with Sesame Street, that was the gate way. Then I mainlined Dr who for a few years and finally graduated to the news hour. At some point in the 80s there were a bunch of talking heads who came on after and yelled at each other for a few hours.
 
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