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2021-03-06 5:48:32 AM  
Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?
 
2021-03-06 5:48:52 AM  
Thank God for that. I mean, it's not like the country has been a dumpster fire. Good thing we had time for this. Excuse me while I have to go update thousands of devices to deal with this triviality.
 
2021-03-06 5:49:31 AM  

mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?


Hawaii and the caribbean. But that's only one state.
 
2021-03-06 5:51:42 AM  

valenumr: mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?

Hawaii and the caribbean. But that's only one state.


Oh, and most of arizona I guess...
 
2021-03-06 5:52:21 AM  

mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?


Arizona and hawaii do not use dst. Same for puerto rico, american samoa and a couple other teritories
 
2021-03-06 6:00:30 AM  
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2021-03-06 6:03:23 AM  

Concrete Donkey: mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?

Arizona and hawaii do not use dst. Same for puerto rico, american samoa and a couple other teritories


And most of the world. It is a holdover in the US, like the Imperial Measurement System.
 
2021-03-06 6:05:50 AM  
"The extra hour at the end of the day is an extra hour our families can spend together". SRSLY?  Did he say this with a straight face.
 
2021-03-06 6:09:45 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: Concrete Donkey: mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?

Arizona and hawaii do not use dst. Same for puerto rico, american samoa and a couple other teritories

And most of the world. It is a holdover in the US, like the Imperial Measurement System.


That's pretty wrong. Many non equatorial countries observe dst.
 
2021-03-06 6:15:03 AM  
UK has been promising to stick to GMT for years but keeps saying 'Now is not the time'.

Anyone know why we even started the practice?
 
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2021-03-06 6:26:49 AM  

jokerscrowbar: UK has been promising to stick to GMT for years but keeps saying 'Now is not the time'.  Anyone know why we even started the practice?


The metric system.
 
2021-03-06 6:31:27 AM  
How can we combat global warming if these states keep adding late afternoon sunshine?
 
2021-03-06 6:35:10 AM  

valenumr: gozar_the_destroyer: Concrete Donkey: mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?

Arizona and hawaii do not use dst. Same for puerto rico, american samoa and a couple other teritories

And most of the world. It is a holdover in the US, like the Imperial Measurement System.

That's pretty wrong. Many non equatorial countries observe dst.


We also don't really use "the imperial system". In a lot of every day practice we use us customary units, which in some aspects differ from imperial units (mostly volumes and masses). But metric units are well understood and used in science and engineering all the time. If you are an old school civil or automotive engineer, you might talk about foot-pounds, but it isn't largely a part of modern curriculum or practice, other than knowing such things exist and how to convert.
 
2021-03-06 6:37:44 AM  
I have a solution.
 
2021-03-06 6:39:07 AM  

valenumr: mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?

Hawaii and the caribbean. But that's only one state.


Hawaii is on standard time year-round.
 
2021-03-06 6:39:24 AM  

valenumr: valenumr: mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?

Hawaii and the caribbean. But that's only one state.

Oh, and most of arizona I guess...


Arizona = standard time.
 
2021-03-06 6:42:39 AM  

mrmopar5287: valenumr: valenumr: mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?

Hawaii and the caribbean. But that's only one state.

Oh, and most of arizona I guess...

Arizona = standard time.


Oh, I see what you are saying. It's semantics. I'm not disagreeing with your initial comment. Pretty sure you can count on one hand places in america that don't change their clocks twice a year.

I think florida was talking about staying on dst year round, which technically just makes them the same as atlantic standard time year round (semantics).
 
2021-03-06 6:43:57 AM  

Concrete Donkey: mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?

Arizona and hawaii do not use dst. Same for puerto rico, american samoa and a couple other teritories


And? That's what I said. There are zero states or territories that use DST year-round. This guy in New Mexico claims there are 16 that do.
 
2021-03-06 6:50:36 AM  

mrmopar5287: Concrete Donkey: mrmopar5287: Passing this bill into law would have us join 16 other states in preserving Daylight Saving Time year-round

There are zero states that use DST year-round. Where do they get this false information?

Arizona and hawaii do not use dst. Same for puerto rico, american samoa and a couple other teritories

And? That's what I said. There are zero states or territories that use DST year-round. This guy in New Mexico claims there are 16 that do.


You don't need to be overly pedantic. A couple places don't change clocks twice a year. That is true. Also, it is fewer than 16 (pretty sure, not certain about *all* territories). But it is only two states (hawaii and arizona) for sure (with guam and puerto rico being major territories). But yes, no us state or territory observes DST year round as far as I know.
 
2021-03-06 6:53:29 AM  

jokerscrowbar: UK has been promising to stick to GMT for years but keeps saying 'Now is not the time'.

Anyone know why we even started the practice?


Short answer: humans invented clocks.

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2021-03-06 6:58:13 AM  

mrmopar5287: jokerscrowbar: UK has been promising to stick to GMT for years but keeps saying 'Now is not the time'.

Anyone know why we even started the practice?

Short answer: humans invented clocks.

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It amazes me how folks at extreme latitudes find it inconvenient to adjust their clocks twice a year. Lower latitudes? Meh, but it can be disruptive when neighboring localities don't have corresponding time adjustment.
 
2021-03-06 7:04:04 AM  
"That extra hour at the end of the day is an extra hour families can spend together and an extra hour of safety for those commuting home from work..."
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2021-03-06 7:07:07 AM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: "That extra hour at the end of the day is an extra hour families can spend together and an extra hour of safety for those commuting home from work..."
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Uh, it kind of is. When you wind the clocks back in the fall, the sun sets at a "later" hour. And in places like, say, michigan, the sun would otherwise set at like 5pm.
 
2021-03-06 7:10:32 AM  

valenumr: Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: "That extra hour at the end of the day is an extra hour families can spend together and an extra hour of safety for those commuting home from work..."
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Uh, it kind of is. When you wind the clocks back in the fall, the sun sets at a "later" hour. And in places like, say, michigan, the sun would otherwise set at like 5pm.


...and that somehow gives you twenty-FIVE hours in a day?  Please explain where the "extra hour" comes from and show your work.
 
2021-03-06 7:13:41 AM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: valenumr: Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: "That extra hour at the end of the day is an extra hour families can spend together and an extra hour of safety for those commuting home from work..."
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Uh, it kind of is. When you wind the clocks back in the fall, the sun sets at a "later" hour. And in places like, say, michigan, the sun would otherwise set at like 5pm.

...and that somehow gives you twenty-FIVE hours in a day?  Please explain where the "extra hour" comes from and show your work.


Woosh.

Sorry, I totally was turning the quote upside down (needs context).

But anyhow, dst was pretty well explained by mrmopar above. It adjusts the "time" you start and end your day to correspond better with sunrise and sunset. Nobody ever claimed it created an extra hour in a day. It just makes an extra hour of your waking day sunlit.
 
2021-03-06 7:21:41 AM  
CA, OR, and WA passed laws to do this. Still waiting for Congressional approval
 
2021-03-06 7:23:48 AM  

mrmopar5287: jokerscrowbar: UK has been promising to stick to GMT for years but keeps saying 'Now is not the time'.

Anyone know why we even started the practice?

Short answer: humans invented clocks.

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Doesn't quite go like that here we get 12 hours daylight in the summer and as little as 4    hours in the winter and that can be a really dark grey due to weather.  If you're working you always get up and go to bed at dark o'clock and if you're not working it doesn't matter what the clock says.
 
2021-03-06 7:24:29 AM  
I'll keep posting this link because I continue to hate Daylight Savings Time, even in year-round form.  Daylight Savings Time is trying to kill you:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis​h​-columbia/bc-permanent-daylight-time-h​ealth-risks-1.5384793
 
2021-03-06 7:24:58 AM  

anuran: CA, OR, and WA passed laws to do this. Still waiting for Congressional approval


Dumb dumb dumb. Especially for oregon and washington. It really can be a burden when regional clocks change sync as well.
 
2021-03-06 7:28:41 AM  

valenumr: But anyhow, dst was pretty well explained by mrmopar above. It adjusts the "time" you start and end your day to correspond better with sunrise and sunset.


Because setting your alarm clock to wake up an hour earlier is just too difficult.
 
2021-03-06 7:30:18 AM  

jokerscrowbar: mrmopar5287: jokerscrowbar: UK has been promising to stick to GMT for years but keeps saying 'Now is not the time'.

Anyone know why we even started the practice?

Short answer: humans invented clocks.

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Doesn't quite go like that here we get 12 hours daylight in the summer and as little as 4    hours in the winter and that can be a really dark grey due to weather.  If you're working you always get up and go to bed at dark o'clock and if you're not working it doesn't matter what the clock says.


Lived in Detroit for five years. Summers were crazy long days, and winters were miserably short days. Woke up in the dark, came home in the dark. DST can't fix the number of hours of sunlight, that's for sure.
 
2021-03-06 7:40:15 AM  

stuartp9: valenumr: But anyhow, dst was pretty well explained by mrmopar above. It adjusts the "time" you start and end your day to correspond better with sunrise and sunset.

Because setting your alarm clock to wake up an hour earlier is just too difficult.


Unless I'm going to work an hour earlier, that becomes a wasted hour in the morning, because I'm not doing anything productive or fun in between getting up in the morning and going to work.
 
2021-03-06 7:44:43 AM  

jokerscrowbar: UK has been promising to stick to GMT for years but keeps saying 'Now is not the time'.

Anyone know why we even started the practice?


Trying to conserve coal so the European aristocratic elite had more resources to slaughter a generation for no good reason
 
2021-03-06 8:00:46 AM  
If they keep this up they'll have constant daylight by 2033 and rule the American solar power sector.
 
2021-03-06 8:12:24 AM  
Standard Time and Daylight Saving Time are two different things.
Using only one or the other are two different things.

Whatever New Mexico does it will still be the Land of Mañana.
 
2021-03-06 8:23:17 AM  
Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and parts of New York all need to be on DST year-round and/or move to the Atlantic time zone.
 
2021-03-06 8:29:37 AM  
My car clock stays on DST year-round.  (too complicated to switch back...)
 
2021-03-06 8:30:42 AM  

Numberlady2: "The extra hour at the end of the day is an extra hour our families can spend together". SRSLY?  Did he say this with a straight face.


I see it as an extra hour people can rob banks or rape kittens. Why do politicians support kitten rape?
 
2021-03-06 8:39:54 AM  

clawsoon: I'll keep posting this link because I continue to hate Daylight Savings Time, even in year-round form.  Daylight Savings Time is trying to kill you:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british​-columbia/bc-permanent-daylight-time-h​ealth-risks-1.5384793


I agree.
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2021-03-06 8:41:31 AM  

stuartp9: valenumr: But anyhow, dst was pretty well explained by mrmopar above. It adjusts the "time" you start and end your day to correspond better with sunrise and sunset.

Because setting your alarm clock to wake up an hour earlier is just too difficult.


Without daylight savings, sunrise in Iowa would be around 4:30 am at the summer solstice. It's be even earlier the farther north you go.

You really think people don't want that hour of sunlight shifted to the night instead?
 
2021-03-06 8:44:21 AM  

MythDragon: Numberlady2: "The extra hour at the end of the day is an extra hour our families can spend together". SRSLY?  Did he say this with a straight face.

I see it as an extra hour people can rob banks or rape kittens. Why do politicians support kitten rape?


Because banks rape, kittens are little murder machines, it is 7:42am on a saturday morning, its too god damn early after a long work week, and i have not had any coffee yet?
 
2021-03-06 8:49:27 AM  
Another thing to be goofy in America: states on DST all the time, states that never go on DST, and states that switch. All we need is to label them liberal and conservative and it'll be the usual Murican cluster fark.
 
2021-03-06 8:59:30 AM  

edmo: Another thing to be goofy in America: states on DST all the time, states that never go on DST, and states that switch. All we need is to label them liberal and conservative and it'll be the usual Murican cluster fark.


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2021-03-06 9:07:52 AM  

jokerscrowbar: UK has been promising to stick to GMT for years but keeps saying 'Now is not the time'.

Anyone know why we even started the practice?


Because a New Zealand bug freak wanted more daylight to go traipsing around with a fine net after he finished work.

Not even joking.
 
2021-03-06 9:08:59 AM  
It's not really DST, if they're not changing the clock. they're just moving one time zone over.
 
2021-03-06 9:12:35 AM  
Could be like China were they just have one giant time zone. Everyone just gets used to it.
 
2021-03-06 9:24:03 AM  
If you think the US is bad...

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2021-03-06 9:25:31 AM  
Also, why bother with "year-round DST"? Why not just adopt the standard time of the next one to the east?
 
2021-03-06 9:45:46 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: It's not really DST, if they're not changing the clock. they're just moving one time zone over.


True.  New Mexico just needs to ask to move to the central time zone and then never go on DST.  As the state borders on the central time zone, they wouldn't need an act of Congress.
 
2021-03-06 9:48:30 AM  

FatinAugust: The Irresponsible Captain: It's not really DST, if they're not changing the clock. they're just moving one time zone over.

True.  New Mexico just needs to ask to move to the central time zone and then never go on DST.  As the state borders on the central time zone, they wouldn't need an act of Congress.


Would El Paso and Hudspeth counties remain as an island of Mountain Time?
 
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