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(Yahoo)   Somehow the Baltimore Ravens come up with an even more ridiculous overtime proposal for the NFL than the league already has. At what point does the NFL swallow its pride and go with the superior NCAA method?   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line
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2021-03-05 2:39:41 AM  
How about each captain has to solve a riddle?
 
2021-03-05 5:30:29 AM  
Somehow or other, we have gotten to the point of where no one can lose until they have had a "fair" chance to win. Luck shouldn't play a part, nor should either team have to play too long.

What else in life works like this??
 
2021-03-05 6:50:21 AM  
That's the incentive for the spotters to pick anywhere other than the 50 yard line every time?  Any closer to the goal line and the chooser will just pick offense.
 
2021-03-05 7:51:04 AM  

mr_a: Somehow or other, we have gotten to the point of where no one can lose until they have had a "fair" chance to win. Luck shouldn't play a part, nor should either team have to play too long.

What else in life works like this??


They had their fair chance. It was the first 60 minutes.
 
2021-03-05 7:54:54 AM  
I think overtime should require all  of the players to spin on a bat before every play.

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2021-03-05 8:53:31 AM  
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"OK, if we win the coin flip in overtime, take the wind."
 
2021-03-05 9:00:13 AM  
The NFL needs to go back to sudden death overtime like the old days. If one team can't stop the other in OT, then they don't deserve to win.
 
2021-03-05 9:05:56 AM  
I agree with the NCAA method. As a fan, I dig the excitement. It's more exciting to watch for me.
 
2021-03-05 9:12:05 AM  
they will never use the NCAA method because the first time a 14-14 game turns into a 63-63 game, the gambling and fantasy community will lose their shiat
 
2021-03-05 9:13:34 AM  
Make it 3 v 3, it'd really open up the field.
 
2021-03-05 9:47:41 AM  
Fark it, just start kicking field goals at the 10 yd line and move it back 5 yards every time you make it.  First kicker to miss loses.

/either that or have the coaches mud wrestle
//Blue, you're my boy!
///close enough
 
2021-03-05 9:54:25 AM  
Tie resolution: 2 footballs at the 50, one to each team, both OLs on the field, first to touchdown wins. There, if we're coming up with stupid ideas that's mine.
 
2021-03-05 10:00:27 AM  
The college OT is fun, but it takes special teams out of the game. Maybe that's a good thing.

Take the current NFL rules, remove "if the receiving team scores a TD on their first possession, they win."

Boom, problem solved.

Or, for the regular season? End OT. Just have ties.
 
2021-03-05 10:05:05 AM  
My bad idea:

Both Mascots are armed with t-shirt cannons and chase Chris Collinsworth on the field.  Whichever mascot scores a headshot wins the game for his/her team.
 
2021-03-05 10:30:36 AM  

bark_atda_moon: My bad idea:

Both Mascots are armed with t-shirt cannons and chase Chris Collinsworth on the field.  Whichever mascot scores a headshot wins the game for his/her team.


That's the dumbest thing I ever heard! How are you gonna get Chris Collinsworth to appear at every stadium???
 
2021-03-05 10:35:51 AM  
yeah no thank you.  The current set up where both teams get a shot seems to be working okay.
 
2021-03-05 10:39:30 AM  
You bring in two identical escape rooms in shipping containers.  4 random players from each team have to work their way out. The first team to get out gains possession. Field position is determined by how long it took them to get out.

The league would love it for both the unnecessary complication AND the extra commercial time they can sell.
 
2021-03-05 10:49:17 AM  
College OT is great, but there's no way that will even be proposed since the owners want more regular season games and games on odd nights (Tuesdays/Wednesdays) due to the gambling component. It's doubtful the players would go for NCAA OT since it is untimed, it can go on forever and teams may be scheduled to play again in four or five days.
 
2021-03-05 10:55:29 AM  

Combustion: bark_atda_moon: My bad idea:

Both Mascots are armed with t-shirt cannons and chase Chris Collinsworth on the field.  Whichever mascot scores a headshot wins the game for his/her team.

That's the dumbest thing I ever heard! How are you gonna get Chris Collinsworth to appear at every stadium???


Add other people to the list obviously...Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, etc...
 
2021-03-05 10:56:14 AM  
My proposal. If the game is tied at the end of regulation, 10 sudden-death min are added with each team getting one timeout and a two minute warning. The transition from q4 to OT is just like the transition between quarters. Quick tv timeout, change end zones, resume play. If a team is in pretty good field goal position, they're probably going to win (but if they were in good FG position at 2 seconds left in regulation, that was true too). If a team scored at the last second to tie it up, they're kicking off and have to defend sudden death. It feels natural, non-arbitrary, and quick.
 
2021-03-05 11:05:52 AM  

mr_a: Somehow or other, we have gotten to the point of where no one can lose until they have had a "fair" chance to win. Luck shouldn't play a part, nor should either team have to play too long.

What else in life works like this??


I can't think precious few sports/games that don't try to remove random chance as a significant component of who wins. Otherwise, all these things would be boring because it would no longer be about the competition. It would be about who won the coin toss.
 
2021-03-05 11:16:26 AM  

Dafatone: The college OT is fun, but it takes special teams out of the game. Maybe that's a good thing.

Take the current NFL rules, remove "if the receiving team scores a TD on their first possession, they win."

Boom, problem solved.

Or, for the regular season? End OT. Just have ties.


College OT also takes clock management completely out, which sucks.

My plan is:
* Team A receives the kickoff with 5:00 on the clock. If time runs out and they haven't scored, they forfeit possession.
* If Team A scores, they kick off to Team B with 5:00 on the clock. After Team B's possession, if it's tied, regular season game ends in a tie; playoff game goes to 2OT with teams switching roles.
* If Team A doesn't score on their initial possession, add 10 minutes to the clock, and it's sudden death from here on out. If the period ends with no score, regular season game ends in a tie, playoff game goes to 2OT and continues where it was as sudden death.

The quick "graphic on screen" explanation is "Each team gets 5 minutes for one possession. If the first team doesn't score, it becomes sudden death."
 
2021-03-05 11:17:20 AM  
What is it about the American sports psyche that requires a loser every game? What is wrong with a hard fought regular season game ending in a tie?
 
2021-03-05 11:25:07 AM  
I never heard of the "California Tiebreaker" until just a year or so ago, but I like it.

https://slate.com/culture/2019/01/cal​i​fornia-tiebreaker-football-overtime-fo​rmat.html

The California Interscholastic Federation introduced the California tiebreaker in 1968, and the state's high school football districts used the system through the 1970s and '80s. The California tiebreaker is, to put it in the simplest possible terms, like tug-of-war without the rope.

Here's how it works: The ball is placed at the 50-yard line, and the teams run four plays each (a coin toss decides who gets to go first), alternating possession at the spot of the ball after every play. If no one manages to score (field goals aren't allowed), then the team that's in its opponents' territory at the conclusion of the eight plays is awarded one point and declared the winner.

A California tiebreaker could go something like this:

• Team A rushes for 5 yards, with the ball carrier tackled at Team B's 45-yard line.

• Team B gets the ball at its own 45-yard line. It then completes a 20-yard pass.

• Team A runs a play from its own 35-yard line ...

And so on and so on.

If the ball is anywhere on Team B's half of the field after eight plays-even the 49-yard line-then Team A is the winner. There were some wrinkles (in the '80s a few districts gave each team eight plays), but the gist remained the same for decades.
 
2021-03-05 11:32:15 AM  

ElwoodCuse: they will never use the NCAA method because the first time a 14-14 game turns into a 63-63 game, the gambling and fantasy community will lose their shiat


Not if you don't add all the OT scoring, and make the final score 20-14, 17-14, or 16-14.
 
2021-03-05 11:40:05 AM  

rickythepenguin: I never heard of the "California Tiebreaker" until just a year or so ago, but I like it.

https://slate.com/culture/2019/01/cali​fornia-tiebreaker-football-overtime-fo​rmat.html

The California Interscholastic Federation introduced the California tiebreaker in 1968, and the state's high school football districts used the system through the 1970s and '80s. The California tiebreaker is, to put it in the simplest possible terms, like tug-of-war without the rope.

Here's how it works: The ball is placed at the 50-yard line, and the teams run four plays each (a coin toss decides who gets to go first), alternating possession at the spot of the ball after every play. If no one manages to score (field goals aren't allowed), then the team that's in its opponents' territory at the conclusion of the eight plays is awarded one point and declared the winner.

A California tiebreaker could go something like this:

• Team A rushes for 5 yards, with the ball carrier tackled at Team B's 45-yard line.

• Team B gets the ball at its own 45-yard line. It then completes a 20-yard pass.

• Team A runs a play from its own 35-yard line ...

And so on and so on.

If the ball is anywhere on Team B's half of the field after eight plays-even the 49-yard line-then Team A is the winner. There were some wrinkles (in the '80s a few districts gave each team eight plays), but the gist remained the same for decades.


There's only one problem with this unless I'm misreading the concept... if I have possession for the final play?  I'm punting that ball beyond the 50 and out of bounds.  Dead ball on my opponent's side of the field and... game won.
 
2021-03-05 11:40:16 AM  
How about no overtime apart from playoffs?

If a team isn't good enough to win the game in 60 minutes then they shouldn't get a win. Simple. Stop rewarding bad teams.

For the playoffs go for alternating field-goals with 10 yards stacked. First miss loses.
 
2021-03-05 11:45:36 AM  

Combustion: bark_atda_moon: My bad idea:

Both Mascots are armed with t-shirt cannons and chase Chris Collinsworth on the field.  Whichever mascot scores a headshot wins the game for his/her team.

That's the dumbest thing I ever heard! How are you gonna get Chris Collinsworth to appear at every stadium???


I thought the NFL had Collinsworth clones running around.
 
2021-03-05 11:55:35 AM  

Combustion: I agree with the NCAA method. As a fan, I dig the excitement. It's more exciting to watch for me.


The NCAA version is definitely the best, and far less confusing. This proposal has some potential, but like someone pointed out, the 'Spot' would always just be the 50 yard line.
 
2021-03-05 12:03:08 PM  
The fact that the college overtime rules mean that very often more points are scored in OT than in regulation (looking at you especially, Big XII) makes it totally ridiculous to me. It shows it has little bearing on the actual sport itself, not unlike ending hockey ties with a shootout.
But I kinda dislike any rule change that increases scoring just for "excitement" sake.  Like, I think the charge/block arc put in the basketball lane is dumb; I don't care if it means "ooh more sweet espn worthy dunks!!!" If you can't get to the rim without plowing through defenders like a fullback, up your game, loser.

/End old man ranting
 
2021-03-05 12:53:08 PM  
How about the equivalent of a penalty shootout?  Each team takes turns running a single play from say the 5 yard line.  Whoever has scored the most TDs at the end of 5 rounds wins.  If tied, keep going until one team scores and one team doesn't.
 
2021-03-05 1:30:02 PM  
Have them play 10 minutes (sudden death) worth of soccer.  Just throw some nets up under the uprights and make all the lineman play but make the kickers play goalie.
 
2021-03-05 1:53:18 PM  

mactheknife: rickythepenguin: I never heard of the "California Tiebreaker" until just a year or so ago, but I like it.

https://slate.com/culture/2019/01/cali​fornia-tiebreaker-football-overtime-fo​rmat.html

The California Interscholastic Federation introduced the California tiebreaker in 1968, and the state's high school football districts used the system through the 1970s and '80s. The California tiebreaker is, to put it in the simplest possible terms, like tug-of-war without the rope.

Here's how it works: The ball is placed at the 50-yard line, and the teams run four plays each (a coin toss decides who gets to go first), alternating possession at the spot of the ball after every play. If no one manages to score (field goals aren't allowed), then the team that's in its opponents' territory at the conclusion of the eight plays is awarded one point and declared the winner.

A California tiebreaker could go something like this:

• Team A rushes for 5 yards, with the ball carrier tackled at Team B's 45-yard line.

• Team B gets the ball at its own 45-yard line. It then completes a 20-yard pass.

• Team A runs a play from its own 35-yard line ...

And so on and so on.

If the ball is anywhere on Team B's half of the field after eight plays-even the 49-yard line-then Team A is the winner. There were some wrinkles (in the '80s a few districts gave each team eight plays), but the gist remained the same for decades.

There's only one problem with this unless I'm misreading the concept... if I have possession for the final play?  I'm punting that ball beyond the 50 and out of bounds.  Dead ball on my opponent's side of the field and... game won.


prohibit kicking plays
 
2021-03-05 1:54:56 PM  
Have each offense line up like this  - first team to score wins.
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2021-03-05 2:52:46 PM  
7 on 7 would be cool as well. Someone would definitely score. Especially if it was the Chiefs.
 
2021-03-05 2:56:12 PM  
How about four quarters of fifteen minutes.  When time's up, time's up.

You had 60 minutes to sort it out.

8-3-5
 
2021-03-05 3:09:26 PM  

wheresmypen: You had 60 minutes to sort it out.


i hate to invoke Colin Cowherd as the voice of reason but he had a good suggestion 10 or whatever years ago when the NFL first said they were gonna tweak OT:

"how about this:  the home team always gets 3 points, right?  meaning, you're supposed to win.  so.  If a road team comes to your building and after 60 minutes, you're tied, screw the coin flip.  they get the ball.  if they score, ballgame.  If they don't score, home team gets the ball.  if they score, game over. if they don't, tie game.  You had 60 minutes to win on your field and couldn't.  one possession each.  no college, 'equal or beat' with 9 possessions each, just, one possession.  first score wins, but road team gets the first chance."
 
2021-03-05 3:23:16 PM  
Sudden death, as now, just make sure each team gets one possession.

Or play 10 minutes, in full, and whoever has the most points wins, obviously, and 5 minute increments from there until there's a winner.

The "too much strain on body" argument is weak, since a full 10 minute OT happens infrequently, and no one, including players, likes ties, anyway.
 
2021-03-05 4:12:22 PM  

Wadded Beef: College OT is great, but there's no way that will even be proposed since the owners want more regular season games and games on odd nights (Tuesdays/Wednesdays) due to the gambling component. It's doubtful the players would go for NCAA OT since it is untimed, it can go on forever and teams may be scheduled to play again in four or five days.


So add a possession limit.  You've got 3 possessions to a tie.  The NCAA bowl games that have gone to this version of OT have produced some insanely memorable moments.
 
2021-03-05 4:58:42 PM  

rickythepenguin: wheresmypen: You had 60 minutes to sort it out.

i hate to invoke Colin Cowherd as the voice of reason but he had a good suggestion 10 or whatever years ago when the NFL first said they were gonna tweak OT:

"how about this:  the home team always gets 3 points, right?  meaning, you're supposed to win.  so.  If a road team comes to your building and after 60 minutes, you're tied, screw the coin flip.  they get the ball.  if they score, ballgame.  If they don't score, home team gets the ball.  if they score, game over. if they don't, tie game.  You had 60 minutes to win on your field and couldn't.  one possession each.  no college, 'equal or beat' with 9 possessions each, just, one possession.  first score wins, but road team gets the first chance."


And when teams play at a neutral site? Like when they go to England or the SuperB Owl?

I don't see what is so wrong about overtime in the present format. It truly is not that different than the college rules, which many here seem to like. Both teams aren't guaranteed a possession, but there should be a punishment for giving up a touchdown. Equally, if you want to take a field goal and hope you can stop the other team, that is a good risk/reward option. Same with deciding if you should punt on 4 and 1 on your own 45 or going for the touchdown on 4 and goal inside the 10.

What is it about the present system that is so bad? Most of the time both teams will get at least one possession. If one team doesn't, it is because their defense blew it. It also keeps the ridiculous scoring of the college overtime from happening. The absolute most any team can score in overtime in the present system is 6 points. That seems about right.
 
2021-03-05 5:48:14 PM  
Why not the TF2 method?

If the game is tied at the end of regulation both teams are declared losers.
 
2021-03-05 6:33:25 PM  
I guess they could decide it by having each team place a bet on how long Lamar Jackson's 3rd quarter dump will take?
 
2021-03-06 4:39:21 AM  
Dump the OT coin flip, use the original pregame coin flip outcome
That way both teams know who would get to choose and can adjust their late game strategy accordingly.
 
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