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2021-03-05 2:14:04 AM  
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2021-03-05 3:42:41 AM  
I have neither the time, nor patience, nor the crayons, necessary to fully explain to people who might support this program, that what they are illustrating has not a goddamn thing to do with the actual code of chivalry (which varied tremendously in both broad scope and in fine detail, from its early 12th-century origins as an occasionally-enforced code of purely military conduct adopted from the Arabs, to the post-medieval guide to gentleman's etiquette that it eventually became).

But to rebut, simply, at no time nor place did the "code of chivalry" restrict the behavior of women** in the manner described by the intellectually stunted puerile farkweasels at that school who deign to fondly refer to themselves as "educators".  The Code of Chivalry was strictly and purely a set of behaviors which limited the behavior of MEN, to a greater or lesser degree depending on circumstance and whether it would or could be enforced.  Claiming that the Code of Chivalry requires women to behave in a subservient manner is a damnable lie upon its very face.

/**a woman who could be classified as a "knight", in terms of the requirement to engage in regular military service to a superior, and who could be classified as a military professional, would theoretically fall under the strictures of such a code.  However, such a woman, should she exist (no, Joan of Arc wasn't a member of the permanent military class; and the Order of the Hatchet predates the formal Code in Spain by a half-century), would be incredibly uncommon, and therefore restrictions on her theoretical behavior certainly would apply to "all women" in the way the insipid pillock who wrote the assignment assumes.
 
2021-03-05 5:52:12 AM  
What? Nothing about cooking delicious meals for men?
/runs
 
2021-03-05 5:53:11 AM  
Ever try to f+ck a woman in an industrially tightened corset and fifteen pounds worth of skirt?

Neither have I and I'm glad I missed the era.
 
2021-03-05 6:39:41 AM  

FightDirector: I have neither the time, nor patience, nor the crayons, necessary to fully explain to people who might support this program, that what they are illustrating has not a goddamn thing to do with the actual code of chivalry (which varied tremendously in both broad scope and in fine detail, from its early 12th-century origins as an occasionally-enforced code of purely military conduct adopted from the Arabs, to the post-medieval guide to gentleman's etiquette that it eventually became).

But to rebut, simply, at no time nor place did the "code of chivalry" restrict the behavior of women** in the manner described by the intellectually stunted puerile farkweasels at that school who deign to fondly refer to themselves as "educators".  The Code of Chivalry was strictly and purely a set of behaviors which limited the behavior of MEN, to a greater or lesser degree depending on circumstance and whether it would or could be enforced.  Claiming that the Code of Chivalry requires women to behave in a subservient manner is a damnable lie upon its very face.

/**a woman who could be classified as a "knight", in terms of the requirement to engage in regular military service to a superior, and who could be classified as a military professional, would theoretically fall under the strictures of such a code.  However, such a woman, should she exist (no, Joan of Arc wasn't a member of the permanent military class; and the Order of the Hatchet predates the formal Code in Spain by a half-century), would be incredibly uncommon, and therefore restrictions on her theoretical behavior certainly would apply to "all women" in the way the insipid pillock who wrote the assignment assumes.


*shakes tiny, gauntleted fist*
 
2021-03-05 6:49:51 AM  

Herb Utsmelz: Ever try to f+ck a woman in an industrially tightened corset and fifteen pounds worth of skirt?

Neither have I and I'm glad I missed the era.


I bet she would take any excuse to get naked.
 
2021-03-05 6:58:06 AM  

EvilEgg: Herb Utsmelz: Ever try to f+ck a woman in an industrially tightened corset and fifteen pounds worth of skirt?

Neither have I and I'm glad I missed the era.

I bet she would take any excuse to get naked.


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2021-03-05 8:36:08 AM  
Misogyny trifecta in play?

/ hope not...
 
2021-03-05 8:37:15 AM  
Texas, if you could go ahead and join the 21st century and also turn blue that would be great. Thanks.
 
2021-03-05 8:37:28 AM  
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2021-03-05 8:37:43 AM  
Did that fat pastor write this one?
 
2021-03-05 8:37:57 AM  
One of the items involves not whining or complaining.

Good luck getting a HS student to do that.
 
2021-03-05 8:38:19 AM  

Herb Utsmelz: Ever try to f+ck a woman in an industrially tightened corset and fifteen pounds worth of skirt?

Neither have I and I'm glad I missed the era.


Tight AF.
 
2021-03-05 8:39:31 AM  
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"This is what happens when you don't smile more."
 
2021-03-05 8:39:49 AM  
What is Texas like? Is the Buggies and Whips industry doing alright? Is there a paper boy every few corners shouting "Extreee, Extreee, read about it!" and that's how they get their news? That seems like how they probably get their news.

/Starting to agree, we need that "Texas" tag
 
2021-03-05 8:41:18 AM  
I have a feeling some people are going to have a problem with this. I'm quite happy with my Steppford wife.
 
2021-03-05 8:42:31 AM  

Herb Utsmelz: Ever try to f+ck a woman in an industrially tightened corset and fifteen pounds worth of skirt?

Neither have I and I'm glad I missed the era.


You're supposed to take the corset off first, Herb.
 
2021-03-05 8:45:55 AM  

Weatherkiss: [sadanduseless.b-cdn.net image 660x550]

"This is what happens when you don't smile more."


Look at this dildo. LOOK AT IT.
 
2021-03-05 8:46:37 AM  

Derp Du Jour: [Fark user image image 425x275]


"Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him."

Go on....
 
2021-03-05 8:46:38 AM  
That's weird, even for Texas.
 
2021-03-05 8:47:11 AM  

Weatherkiss: [sadanduseless.b-cdn.net image 660x550]

"This is what happens when you don't smile more."


...and hence began the tradition of "Not tonight dear, I have a headache."
 
2021-03-05 8:47:45 AM  
People romanticize codes of chivalry (including Bushido) and take them at face value. "See, a knight/samurai would rather die than be dishonored blah blah blah" but don't realize these codes were generally written as an desperate attempt to get rowdy and armed people to behave at least somewhat decently.

Assuming knights and samurai always followed those codes is like assuming all high school students follow their school's code of conduct.
 
2021-03-05 8:49:59 AM  
Chivalry AND purity...

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2021-03-05 8:51:10 AM  
Someone in the private Facebook group where the assignment was shared said there was also an assignment for boys, instructing them to "have manners towards the ladies and treat them politely in some situations," according to EverythingLubbock.com.

Some situations?!
 
2021-03-05 8:53:42 AM  

Weatherkiss: [sadanduseless.b-cdn.net image 660x550]

"This is what happens when you don't smile more."


"What happened?"
'I complained. I told my husband he was a pain in my neck.'

/ 'Ow! Don't touch it, that's still a bit tender'
 
2021-03-05 8:54:18 AM  
What really makes me laugh is that if a parent had brought this forward to a teacher or the principal and had complaints about it, that is to say, it didn't escape via social media, the parents would have been told, "This is district approved and I'm just doing what I'm(/we're) supposed to do."
They really love hiding behind that line. At least we have social media now so the school truly understands how outrageous they're being. Of course, the sad thing is that somebody actually thought this was legitimate lesson plan. Unless there's something we're all missing that the assignment was supposed to show how ridiculous it was.
 
2021-03-05 8:54:58 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Misogyny trifecta in play?

/ hope not...


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2021-03-05 8:56:59 AM  
So if she doesn't have a flouncy dress to wear can she dress as a stack of bitcoins to please men?
 
2021-03-05 8:57:04 AM  

roguejuliet: Herb Utsmelz: Ever try to f+ck a woman in an industrially tightened corset and fifteen pounds worth of skirt?

Neither have I and I'm glad I missed the era.

You're supposed to take the corset off first, Herb.


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2021-03-05 8:58:47 AM  
WTAFITS?
 
2021-03-05 9:03:08 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Misogyny trifecta in play?

/ hope not...


Don't worry, they will still mutilate the baby boys.
 
2021-03-05 9:05:16 AM  
I really hope there's more to this...

If my daughter brought this home I would have to to show up at the school with my mace and defend my child's honor.
 
2021-03-05 9:12:39 AM  
I mean....

Nobody in the class is living in medieval Europe.

Nobody in the class is any sort of knight.

Nobody in the class is any sort of military figure.

So not only would the girls have nothing to do without soome creative license, neither would the guys.

While they aren't well defined and vary from location and decade, the codes were almost always incredibly sexist, entrenched in classic gender roles, religious, nationalist, pro military propaganda.

It hardly seems a stretch that a female equivalent would be equally so.
 
2021-03-05 9:13:16 AM  
It's what Jesus would want womenfolk to do. He taught ut that women should never object  to what a man wants, and men, particularly ones wielding the bible, should be allowed full authority over women and their bodies.

/but it's the libs libs libs that have an agenda, amiright?
 
2021-03-05 9:14:35 AM  

Herb Utsmelz: Ever try to f+ck a woman in an industrially tightened corset and fifteen pounds worth of skirt?

Neither have I and I'm glad I missed the era.


You don't mess with either.  Just flip up the skirt and get busy.

/am very, very, very old.
 
2021-03-05 9:16:46 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Misogyny trifecta in play?

/ hope not...


Republican Neanderthal misogyny trifecta in play, I say.
 
2021-03-05 9:19:23 AM  
The assignment said "all ladies deemed worthy of the honor by the gentlemen" would get 10 points for every witness signature.
The list states, "Ladies must address all men respectfully by title, with a lowered head and curtsy," and "Ladies must never criticize a male." It also says "ladies" must not initiate conversations with males, or "show intellectual superiority" outside the classroom "if it would offend the men around them." It also says they must cook for the "gentlemen in their class" and should clean up after the men.
"Ladies must obey any reasonable request of a male. If not sure if it is considered reasonable, ladies can check with their teachers," one of the rules reads.


Damn that's a good assignment.  Survey the current male attitudes toward women's roles to give students a realistic view of who and what they're dealing with.  That the school board chimed in is an added benefit.

The next assignment should be about attitudes towards women in Salem in the 1600s.

The teacher is wasted in public school and needs a better job in an elite private school.
 
2021-03-05 9:25:03 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: ArcadianRefugee: Misogyny trifecta in play?

/ hope not...

Don't worry, they will still mutilate the baby boys.


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2021-03-05 9:26:51 AM  

Weatherkiss: [sadanduseless.b-cdn.net image 660x550]

"This is what happens when you don't smile more."


Man, reading the responses to this, from the bottom of the thread up, created an expectation that was not only met, but easily surmounted. The coffee is all over the table and in my bowl of Cheerios, so thank you so very much.
 
2021-03-05 9:26:53 AM  
That isn't even.
 
2021-03-05 9:28:23 AM  

Walker: Texas, if you could go ahead and join the 21st century and also turn blue that would be great. Thanks.


They were blue for a week. Didn't work.

Oh....
 
2021-03-05 9:28:39 AM  
When I was younger I remember husbands introducing their wives at some banquet event. The husband would stand up and introduce both himself, the wife, and the kids. The wives would smile and nod. My aunt stood up and did the introductions. Mike drop wasn't a thing yet, but I added it to my memory.
 
2021-03-05 9:34:03 AM  
So instead of kids experiencing the emotions and actions regarding how silly these things were in the past which is what I wish my daughters would know.  People just want them to read about it with no sense of passion as to why it's not acceptable.   Soon just reading about the past will be banned, because it shows a past that isn't the present or our imagined future.   Which will lead to the same events occurring again to zero institutional memory.  Great job public.
 
2021-03-05 9:36:45 AM  

HailRobonia: People romanticize codes of chivalry (including Bushido) and take them at face value. "See, a knight/samurai would rather die than be dishonored blah blah blah" but don't realize these codes were generally written as an desperate attempt to get rowdy and armed people to behave at least somewhat decently.

Assuming knights and samurai always followed those codes is like assuming all high school students follow their school's code of conduct.


They wouldn't have to write up such a code if anyone was following it
 
2021-03-05 9:47:03 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: What? Nothing about cooking delicious meals for men?
/runs


Cooking for the boys is on the list.
 
2021-03-05 10:03:40 AM  
This assignment seems designed to make girls become more feminist.  I think we're seeing an instance of the uniformed cop shooting the undercover cop here.
 
2021-03-05 10:06:01 AM  

Snort: Herb Utsmelz: Ever try to f+ck a woman in an industrially tightened corset and fifteen pounds worth of skirt?

Neither have I and I'm glad I missed the era.

You don't mess with either.  Just flip up the skirt and get busy.

/am very, very, very old.


After years of Renn Faire bodices and skirts I will say only this: You are not wrong.
 
2021-03-05 10:12:17 AM  
I once overheard a couple of women talking about how one of them attempted to guy a seat on the subway and a guy that appeared to be about 25 rushed in and beat her to the seat, he had made a comment that "I guess chivalry is dead"  and he replied, "it died when women got the right to vote".  The idea is that if women want the same rights as men, they shouldn't expect chivalry.
 
2021-03-05 10:16:38 AM  

HailRobonia: People romanticize codes of chivalry (including Bushido) and take them at face value. "See, a knight/samurai would rather die than be dishonored blah blah blah" but don't realize these codes were generally written as an desperate attempt to get rowdy and armed people to behave at least somewhat decently.

Assuming knights and samurai always followed those codes is like assuming all high school students follow their school's code of conduct.


It's not law, it's just "guidelines."
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2021-03-05 10:18:33 AM  

Herb Utsmelz: Ever try to f+ck a woman in an industrially tightened corset and fifteen pounds worth of skirt?

Neither have I and I'm glad I missed the era.


So I lost my virginity at a civil war reenactment. We were both in full period attire to start. I have two major observations:

1) it took a long time in invent the zipper. Drunk, horny, and a button fly with something like eight buttons was a challenge.

2) getting the dress off was NOT a challenge. Hell, it was half the fun. You know how we lament the death of foreplay? It died when we made clothes easier to wear.
 
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