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2021-03-04 11:36:24 PM  
There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.
 
2021-03-05 12:10:24 AM  
Since 9/11 every piece of US mail gets photographed when it arrives at a post office after pickup and again before it leaves the post office to be delivered. If Uncle Sam cares enough to photo your Jack and Jill catalog mailers its a safe bet he cares about metered parcels.
 
2021-03-05 12:10:30 AM  
The U.S. Postal Service operates on the assumption you paid proper postage. The routes are already laid. The Postmen are already paid.

/go ahead and send that postage-free letter
 
2021-03-05 12:11:13 AM  

Gonz: There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.


Laugh if you will, but as bloated and inefficient as the mail system is, it is still a critical part of life for a lot of people.

farking with it was, and still is, serious shiat.
 
2021-03-05 12:12:54 AM  
The place where I worked had those since the late 80's.

They'd have to lug them down to the post office to 'recharge' them occasionally.
 
2021-03-05 12:15:35 AM  
Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to jail he goes.
 
2021-03-05 12:18:07 AM  
Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.
 
2021-03-05 12:21:39 AM  
SWIM once determined experimentally that one could print "NO POSTAGE NECESSARY IF MAILED IN THE UNITED STATES" on the envelope, followed by a bunch of black horizontal lines, and mail it for free, (apparently) without consequences.
 
2021-03-05 12:23:58 AM  

DON.MAC: Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.


You can by using the flat rate envelopes or boxes (Express and Priority Mail).  I've only ever done it in person, but the online instructions seem simple enough.  You can even get things delivered and schedule a pickup.
https://www.usps.com/ship/online-ship​p​ing.htm
 
2021-03-05 12:24:09 AM  
According to court testimony, a former postal office manager said he asked Matheny to bring in his mail earlier to avoid putting her workers on a time crunch, but Matheny told him that "would not be possible and asked if he should take his business elsewhere."

I think "being an asshole" is mostly what got him caught.
 
2021-03-05 12:24:38 AM  

DON.MAC: Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.


They do for priority mail.

But JFK, it costs $10 for a book of stamps. You'll spend more than that on the ink cartridge that you have to replace every year because it dries out. Buy one, stick it in a drawer, and you're set for the next decade.
 
2021-03-05 12:25:54 AM  

Be polite walk on the right: The U.S. Postal Service operates on the assumption you paid proper postage. The routes are already laid. The Postmen are already paid.

/go ahead and send that postage-free letter


You are already back there making fries. There should be no reason that you can't just put a serving of fries in my bag and not charge me.
 
2021-03-05 12:27:07 AM  

GrogSmash: Gonz: There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.

Laugh if you will, but as bloated and inefficient as the mail system is, it is still a critical part of life for a lot of people.

farking with it was, and still is, serious shiat.


You want to feel pain? Try mail fraud.  They bring the pain.
 
2021-03-05 12:28:26 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: GrogSmash: Gonz: There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.

Laugh if you will, but as bloated and inefficient as the mail system is, it is still a critical part of life for a lot of people.

farking with it was, and still is, serious shiat.

You want to feel pain? Try mail fraud.  They bring the pain.


I'd rather the red hot poker up my arse please.
 
2021-03-05 12:29:28 AM  
"During court hearings, several post office workers testified that Matheny consistently dropped off his packages after the 8 p.m. cutoff, leading workers with little to no time to inspect the packages."

Dafuq?!?  It gave them nearly 24 hours to inspect the packages.

Of course, I used to have the gate code of the local airport so I could drop off FedEx packages at the plane if we ran late.  And we hardly ever used FedEx.  Only when we were late and knew we could do that.  Of course, that was in the 90s.  Security got a bit tighter in the aughts.
 
2021-03-05 12:31:38 AM  

GrogSmash: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: GrogSmash: Gonz: There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.

Laugh if you will, but as bloated and inefficient as the mail system is, it is still a critical part of life for a lot of people.

farking with it was, and still is, serious shiat.

You want to feel pain? Try mail fraud.  They bring the pain.

I'd rather the red hot poker up my arse please.


I always look for that from white collar to drug dealers.  Oh shiat there's "mail fraud"  This dude is farked.
 
2021-03-05 12:32:14 AM  

GrogSmash: Laugh if you will, but as bloated and inefficient as the mail system is, it is still a critical part of life for a lot of people.

farking with it was, and still is, serious shiat.


Oh, you misunderstood me. I wasn't laughing. I've worked a stupid government job where you dream for the one time it gets exciting. I'm seriously happy for that employee.

And you do. Not. Fark. With the Postal System. Remember, they were once like "we need to deliver the mail, and to insure its security. Can y'all give us a hand?" and the US Government was all "here's the US Marine Corps." The USPS is in the Constitution. Don't antagonize the eagle.
 
2021-03-05 12:35:57 AM  

New Rising Sun: DON.MAC: Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.

You can by using the flat rate envelopes or boxes (Express and Priority Mail).  I've only ever done it in person, but the online instructions seem simple enough.  You can even get things delivered and schedule a pickup.
https://www.usps.com/ship/online-shipp​ing.htm


That's fine for mailing anything over a pound.  When you mail something less than a pound, but more than a standard letter the only option is priority.  If you're mailing something local (not 4 states away) it usually gets there in the same time as priority so you're wasting money.
 
2021-03-05 12:36:18 AM  
The older I get the more amazing the postal service appears. For under a dollar any inane rambling that I can put to paper can reach anyone in the country in a few days and I don't even need to leave my front porch. Pretty much guaranteed.
It's farking mind boggling to be honest.
Even when you pay expensive private carriers they often offload the last mile to the postal service.
Our founders were right to include it directly in the Constitution.
 
2021-03-05 12:37:01 AM  

DON.MAC: Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.


They do.  It's called Click-N-Ship on usps.gov.  Even send you the flat-rate envelopes or boxes for free.  And you can schedule a free pickup for packages.
 
2021-03-05 12:38:24 AM  

Gonz: GrogSmash: Laugh if you will, but as bloated and inefficient as the mail system is, it is still a critical part of life for a lot of people.

farking with it was, and still is, serious shiat.

Oh, you misunderstood me. I wasn't laughing. I've worked a stupid government job where you dream for the one time it gets exciting. I'm seriously happy for that employee.

And you do. Not. Fark. With the Postal System. Remember, they were once like "we need to deliver the mail, and to insure its security. Can y'all give us a hand?" and the US Government was all "here's the US Marine Corps." The USPS is in the Constitution. Don't antagonize the eagle.


There was an interview with a Postal Inspector where the journalist tried to round things off with "So, you're a lot like the FBI?" and the interviewee said "No, the FBI is a lot like us." Do not mess with these guys.
 
2021-03-05 12:39:08 AM  
He never saw The Firm, did he? Mail fraud has teeth.
 
2021-03-05 12:44:18 AM  
They made Cosmo Kramer crap his pants, you wanna go toe-to-toe with them?
 
2021-03-05 12:44:43 AM  
The postal inspectors go way back BEFORE the Revolutionary War. They were also the first federal law enforcement agency to carry TOMMY GUNS. Who thinks it's a good idea to challenge these dudes?
 
2021-03-05 12:45:48 AM  
Did he declare the income from selling the crap that needed $250k worth of postage?
 
2021-03-05 12:47:44 AM  
when I was living back in rhode island I worked for a bulk mail house and when you were told to bring your stuff in a certain time, you did or nothing got sent out and if your postage was wrong they were in your face or on the phone with you till you coughed up the postage to send stuff.
In this case I blame both him and the employees at the post office, because the ones at the providence ADC don't play and considering that is the busiest postal hub in the region they will let you know also.
 
2021-03-05 12:50:37 AM  

DON.MAC: Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.


You actually can do what you described, for packages .

But also, do you really believe that 55c is "overpriced" for a service that takes your letter and delivers it clear across the country (pre dejoy) in three days right to your recipients door?

Because that's a stunning feat of Technology, for a decent price.
 
2021-03-05 12:52:04 AM  

Enigmamf: DON.MAC: Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.

They do for priority mail.

But JFK, it costs $10 for a book of stamps. You'll spend more than that on the ink cartridge that you have to replace every year because it dries out. Buy one, stick it in a drawer, and you're set for the next decade.


Steal them from your office like a normal person!
 
2021-03-05 12:53:44 AM  

GrogSmash: Gonz: There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.

Laugh if you will, but as bloated and inefficient as the mail system is, it is still a critical part of life for a lot of people.

farking with it was, and still is, serious shiat.


Too bad LaJoy who farked with it a billion times worse than this guy to try to rig an election will never suffer any consequences.
 
2021-03-05 12:54:39 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: The older I get the more amazing the postal service appears. For under a dollar any inane rambling that I can put to paper can reach anyone in the country in a few days and I don't even need to leave my front porch. Pretty much guaranteed.
It's farking mind boggling to be honest.
Even when you pay expensive private carriers they often offload the last mile to the postal service.
Our founders were right to include it directly in the Constitution.


Yeah, it really is an amazing institution.  For $.50, you can write a letter and send it across the country, and it will be there in 3-5 days.  And anyone can do this.  Given the size and population of this country, that's wild.
 
2021-03-05 12:58:53 AM  
Wow.  For 65 years in prison you could have a lot more fun than this.
 
2021-03-05 1:00:59 AM  

optikeye: The place where I worked had those since the late 80's.

They'd have to lug them down to the post office to 'recharge' them occasionally.


Years ago I worked at Kinko's and we had a postage meter.  When it ran out of postage we just had to call some 800 number and punch in our account information, then it gave us a code to enter into the meter and then we had more postage.
 
2021-03-05 1:07:31 AM  
this guy is a real dumbass with a double bad case of dumbass
 
2021-03-05 1:11:45 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: GrogSmash: Gonz: There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.

Laugh if you will, but as bloated and inefficient as the mail system is, it is still a critical part of life for a lot of people.

farking with it was, and still is, serious shiat.

You want to feel pain? Try mail fraud.  They bring the pain.


The downfall (along with tax evasion) of many a criminal who otherwise managed to evade the law again and again. You can get away with taking other people's lives and money. But when you fark with Uncle Sam's money, you best believe you will find out that is a line you do not cross.
 
2021-03-05 1:12:54 AM  
from a different article:

Some of Matheny's customers lived overseas, including in Israel and South Africa.  The USPS required Matheny to make truthful declarations on these exports.  Specifically, Matheny was required to truthfully declare whether the package contained merchandise or a gift and also the value of the contents of the package.  Matheny falsely certified on these forms that his packages contained a "gift" that was worth a nominal sum such as "$1.90," when in truth Matheny knew the contents of his packages were not gifts and worth more than what he listed on the forms.  This allowed Matheny's packages to clear foreign customs more rapidly and possibly avoid foreign customs taxes.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndia/pr/​m​arion-man-convicted-making-phony-posta​ge

Enjoy Federal prison
 
2021-03-05 1:13:19 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: The older I get the more amazing the postal service appears. For under a dollar any inane rambling that I can put to paper can reach anyone in the country in a few days and I don't even need to leave my front porch. Pretty much guaranteed.
It's farking mind boggling to be honest.
Even when you pay expensive private carriers they often offload the last mile to the postal service.
Our founders were right to include it directly in the Constitution.


Sit back and let me tell you about the internet. It'll blow your socks off.
 
2021-03-05 1:15:55 AM  

MythDragon: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: GrogSmash: Gonz: There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.

Laugh if you will, but as bloated and inefficient as the mail system is, it is still a critical part of life for a lot of people.

farking with it was, and still is, serious shiat.

You want to feel pain? Try mail fraud.  They bring the pain.

The downfall (along with tax evasion) of many a criminal who otherwise managed to evade the law again and again. You can get away with taking other people's lives and money. But when you fark with Uncle Sam's money, you best believe you will find out that is a line you do not cross.


actually I know two postal inspectors, one being an ex, it's the "faith in the system" they are enforcing more than anything else.
 
2021-03-05 1:19:12 AM  

Gonz: There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.


I don't think you could force me to watch a movie about postal inspectors. I think I'd rather learn cross stitch.
 
2021-03-05 1:20:28 AM  

DON.MAC: Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.


I think you can do that. Ebay offers it for sellers.
 
2021-03-05 1:23:53 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: The older I get the more amazing the postal service appears. For under a dollar any inane rambling that I can put to paper can reach anyone in the country in a few days and I don't even need to leave my front porch. Pretty much guaranteed.
It's farking mind boggling to be honest.
Even when you pay expensive private carriers they often offload the last mile to the postal service.
Our founders were right to include it directly in the Constitution.


Man, are you in for a shock when you figure out this internet thing....

/seriously though, it's pretty cool.
 
2021-03-05 1:26:42 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: The older I get the more amazing the postal service appears. For under a dollar any inane rambling that I can put to paper can reach anyone in the country in a few days and I don't even need to leave my front porch. Pretty much guaranteed.
It's farking mind boggling to be honest.
Even when you pay expensive private carriers they often offload the last mile to the postal service.
Our founders were right to include it directly in the Constitution.


A functional public postal service is the hallmark of 1st world civilization; so it should come as no surprise that the republicans continuously do their damndest to to try and make it fail, in an ever ongoing attempt to reach the much coveted shiathole nation status -- but at least their donors made a few bucks along the way.
 
2021-03-05 1:34:09 AM  

Natalie Portmanteau: Gonz: There was some bureaucrat, somewhere, who lived their life's dream that day. 

Think about it- you're in a drone job, scanning postal transactions to make sure there are no massive issues going on. Sure, every now and then there's a slight discrepancy in postage, but even those are few and far between. Still, you're a cog in the USPS machine, and a Federal job with benefits and a pension is a decent gig.

And, suddenly, your daydream comes true- there's proof of someone committing a grievous Federal crime: a crime against the Postal System. You are going to dot every I and cross every T so people in the future will think twice before they attack the integrity of the mail.

I don't think you could force me to watch a movie about postal inspectors. I think I'd rather learn cross stitch.


I once got excited by a movie about stockbrokers shorting the market. Any subject can be made exciting in the right hands.
 
2021-03-05 1:38:02 AM  
And to think I have used a postal scale for years, just to make sure my envelopes were never short on postage.  My companies would have been mortified if a package showed up with postage due.

This guy was way more brazen than simply greedy.
 
2021-03-05 1:39:36 AM  

Natalie Portmanteau: I don't think you could force me to watch a movie about postal inspectors. I think I'd rather learn cross stitch.


I don't know, some of the routines don't seem very safe and I hear it's kind of culty.
 
2021-03-05 1:51:08 AM  
I used to be meticulous about printing postage, but I wound up at a point where a good day could break me. I didn't get paid for at least 3 days after shipping, so a good day could cost more in postage than I had in the bank and credit.

Now we understand how some vendors could seem to ship stuff that wouldn't work out. I always suspected a bunch of stuff was bought with stolen credit cards.
 
2021-03-05 2:18:09 AM  

fragMasterFlash: Since 9/11 every piece of US mail gets photographed when it arrives at a post office after pickup and again before it leaves the post office to be delivered. If Uncle Sam cares enough to photo your Jack and Jill catalog mailers its a safe bet he cares about metered parcels.


If this is true there should be a missing children's type wall dedicated to my mail alone.
 
2021-03-05 2:33:06 AM  

DON.MAC: Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.


https://www.usps.com/ship/online-shipp​ing.htm
 
2021-03-05 2:42:36 AM  

IRestoreFurniture: DON.MAC: Why wont post offices let me go on line, select a letter or small package, pay them some over priced amount and let me download a pdf barcode thing for a stamp?  I mail so few letters a year decade that this kind of service would make sense for me.

You actually can do what you described, for packages .

But also, do you really believe that 55c is "overpriced" for a service that takes your letter and delivers it clear across the country (pre dejoy) in three days right to your recipients door?

Because that's a stunning feat of Technology, for a decent price.


You can track it, and the addressee can track it.

/It's just like AmazoFedUPS!
//For $40 less!
 
2021-03-05 2:51:40 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: from a different article:

Some of Matheny's customers lived overseas, including in Israel and South Africa.  The USPS required Matheny to make truthful declarations on these exports.  Specifically, Matheny was required to truthfully declare whether the package contained merchandise or a gift and also the value of the contents of the package.  Matheny falsely certified on these forms that his packages contained a "gift" that was worth a nominal sum such as "$1.90," when in truth Matheny knew the contents of his packages were not gifts and worth more than what he listed on the forms.  This allowed Matheny's packages to clear foreign customs more rapidly and possibly avoid foreign customs taxes.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndia/pr/m​arion-man-convicted-making-phony-posta​ge

Enjoy Federal prison


"Hell, I'll be out on good behavior in five years."
There'll be some people waiting for you at the gate. Customs and Tariffs people from Israel, South Africa, Germany... I'd really try to avoid Singapore Customs, they carry canes.
 
2021-03-05 2:55:10 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: from a different article:

Some of Matheny's customers lived overseas, including in Israel and South Africa.  The USPS required Matheny to make truthful declarations on these exports.  Specifically, Matheny was required to truthfully declare whether the package contained merchandise or a gift and also the value of the contents of the package.  Matheny falsely certified on these forms that his packages contained a "gift" that was worth a nominal sum such as "$1.90," when in truth Matheny knew the contents of his packages were not gifts and worth more than what he listed on the forms.  This allowed Matheny's packages to clear foreign customs more rapidly and possibly avoid foreign customs taxes.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndia/pr/m​arion-man-convicted-making-phony-posta​ge

Enjoy Federal prison


I'm a fraud investigator for eBay and you'd be surprised how often I see buyers ask sellers to do this. Sure, let's combine mail and tax fraud together, what the worst that can happen?
 
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