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(WBTW Myrtle Beach)   Showing the cost effectiveness of the War on Drugs, Myrtle Beach SC pays out $11 millions after no-knock raid based on $100 pot sale, instead of picking up $20 in tax revenue by legalizing it   (wbtw.com) divider line
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2021-03-04 1:54:51 PM  
The war on drugs was Never about being cost effective. It was a way to enrich and empower police departments, put heads in the beds of private prisons, and to disenfranchise and generally supress "those" people.

Legalize it, regulate/tax it, and close down the policing to prison pipeline. We'll all be better off.
 
2021-03-04 2:07:33 PM  

Private_Citizen: The war on drugs was Never about being cost effective. It was a way to enrich and empower police departments, put heads in the beds of private prisons, and to disenfranchise and generally suppress "those" people.

Legalize it, regulate/tax it, and close down the policing to prison pipeline. We'll all be better off.


This part is incredibly understated (I fixed the spelling as it was annoying me). Take a crime where it can be a warning with no jail time, or a felony with no jail time but removing the right to vote.
 
2021-03-04 2:37:18 PM  
But the payout came from Corporate Accounts, and resulted in a net tax deduction!
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2021-03-04 2:37:38 PM  
Republican fascism at work right there.
 
2021-03-04 2:37:45 PM  
Pigs don't farking care. It's not their money and how can they justify owning a farking tank if they can't drive it through some African American's living room wall now and then to snatch that gram.

Unless you start to take the money out of the pig pension they won't care.
 
2021-03-04 2:38:27 PM  
POT TROLLS TO THE THREAD.

THE SIGNAL HAS BEEN CAST.
 
2021-03-04 2:39:28 PM  
ALL of the cops lied that they knocked and announced.
It was later proven that the pigs are lying pieces of crap.
The pigs ALSO lied that the victim fired first
 It was later proven that the pigs are lying pieces of crap.

The pigs used a battering ram, never announced themselves, and fired 29 rounds at a man over a marijuana violation.

Yay law enforcement!
I feel safer already.
 
2021-03-04 2:41:29 PM  
Lying about knocking
Lying about announcing
Lying about the victim firing first

The net result? It it cost the city money.

No criminal charges were brought against the officers, and at least one is working in law enforcement to this day.


I feel safer already.
 
2021-03-04 2:42:17 PM  

bobug: But the payout came from Corporate Accounts, and resulted in a net tax deduction!
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2021-03-04 2:42:18 PM  
No criminal charges were brought against the officers, and at least one is working in law enforcement to this day.

THIS is why we need a national law enforcement registry. So people like this are blacklisted from being hired after pulling shiat like this.
 
2021-03-04 2:43:04 PM  
cops lied, collectively conspired to hide their lies and none went to jail after shooting a man 9 times and paralyzing him

after they busted a vet with pot ash to force him to make a buy from this now paralyzed man

we are paying cops 6 figure salaries, full benefits, retire after 20 years etc etc for this ?
 
2021-03-04 2:44:22 PM  
$11 million, plus the attorney's fees for losing the case, plus the cost of the cops, plus the intangible cost of lost faith in law enforcement. That last one is the biggie, if it could be put into real numbers it would dwarf the $11 mil.
 
2021-03-04 2:44:45 PM  
That's ok.  They'll make it up with asset forfeiture.
 
2021-03-04 2:46:27 PM  
Just think how many DARE bumper stickers the cops could've bought with that $11 Million dollars...
 
2021-03-04 2:48:21 PM  
Lotta magas in SC...
 
2021-03-04 2:49:43 PM  

Private_Citizen: The war on drugs was Never about being cost effective. It was a way to enrich and empower police departments, put heads in the beds of private prisons, and to disenfranchise and generally supress "those" people.

Legalize it, regulate/tax it, and close down the policing to prison pipeline. We'll all be better off.


Enriching and empowering police departments was not the goal. It has always been a war on minorities and liberals.  That's why Nixon started his disastrous war on drugs.

The US actually won its first drug war with education, not violence.
 
2021-03-04 2:49:48 PM  
 
2021-03-04 2:50:56 PM  

whidbey: POT TROLLS TO THE THREAD.

THE SIGNAL HAS BEEN CAST.


I don't know what you're talking about.  This is what it's all about. Literally all of it.

Criminalizing pot as if it was anthrax is the easiest way to get young black males in the legal pipeline that sooner or later lands them in for profit prisons.  For profit prisons don't make money if they have empty beds and since black people are not technically people (read your republican propaganda) they can stack them like cordwood in there and nobody in power will do a thing about it.
The fear of weed is what let's police agencies siphon mountains of money out of tax payers in order to buy their riot gear and tanks and all kinds of shiat that makes a cop look like a soldier.
This is what it's all about. It's profit-driven racism. But by all means, the "pot trolls" are the problem, not the massive racist prison industrial complex our country loves so much.
 
2021-03-04 2:51:24 PM  
I commend to you John Oliver's segment on this very topic from this week's show (some NSFW language):

Raids: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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The point made that really got me is that bans certain cities are putting on "no-knock" warrants are useless.  Even warrants that supposedly require police to knock leave it to the discretion of the police if they do knock or not.  And if they say they have reason to believe that evidence is being destroyed, they don't have to knock.

So, yeah, they won't be knocking.
 
2021-03-04 2:51:58 PM  
Legalize weed. Criminalize Myrtle Beach.

/spent family vacations there as a child
//I got better
 
2021-03-04 2:54:39 PM  

Private_Citizen: The war on drugs was Never about being cost effective. It was a way to enrich and empower police departments, put heads in the beds of private prisons, and to disenfranchise and generally supress "those" people.

Legalize it, regulate/tax it, and close down the policing to prison pipeline. We'll all be better off.


Yep. And we need to get out of the habit of talking about overall cost, because the cost doesn't matter--what matters is who's footing the bill. If a raid costs the taxpayers a million dollars but it gets the cops $100, then it's worth it. Why would you hesitate to spend someone else's money?
 
2021-03-04 2:55:35 PM  
In countries that actually want to do something about drugs, it generally works like this:
1. Pretty much ignore drugs that are almost completely harmless (like caffeine)
2. Regulate and tax ones that are harmful if you're stupid with them, but generally safe otherwise (such as alcohol, pot, and shrooms)
3. Treat the rest as a medical problem, not a criminal one. Users get sent to counseling and rehab, only dealers are arrested.

Far more lives get saved, far less money is spent, and waaaaaaaaay less people rot in prison for victimless "crimes".
 
2021-03-04 2:55:48 PM  
Also, abolish the police.
 
2021-03-04 2:56:29 PM  
"What I always tell people to do is imagine that it's legal now and now argue for the criminalization of it," said McCoy.

Whose houses will police kick in? They'll just be sitting around NOT terrorizing innocent families. Then WHAT ARE WE PAYING THEM FOR?

Oh, I see what he did there.
 
2021-03-04 2:57:03 PM  
It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.
 
2021-03-04 2:57:12 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Legalize weed. Criminalize Myrtle Beach.

/spent family vacations there as a child
//I got better


I want to see Lindsey Graham reduced to picking up trash with a stickpin.
 
2021-03-04 2:57:44 PM  
As others have said, the War on Some Drugs was never about getting rid of drugs or making anyone safe.

It was always about shiatting all over blah people and making sure the defendants could never vote again. And filling prisons.
 
2021-03-04 2:58:17 PM  

SpectroBoy: Lying about knocking
Lying about announcing
Lying about the victim firing first

The net result? It it cost the city money.

No criminal charges were brought against the officers, and at least one is working in law enforcement to this day.


I feel safer already.


Correction: It cost the taxpayers money. The city employees who oversee this paid nothing extra.
 
2021-03-04 2:59:58 PM  
Republicans: ILL SPEND BILLIONS TO SETTLE SUITS BEFORE I MAKE TAX MONEY FROM ONE OUNCE OT WEED!
 
2021-03-04 3:01:39 PM  
Who gives a fark? If you are an elected official you make sure to get police votes by not cutting their funding. Legalize drugs? fark that. That potentially may cut police funding, police jobs, and incur the wrath of the police union. Its all about those sweet sweet union votes.
 
2021-03-04 3:03:27 PM  
drugs

its very simple

supply and demand


there seems to be a good demand for them. More so now than ever...
 
2021-03-04 3:03:36 PM  
$11 million is chump change compared to the revenue earned from exploiting prisoners locked up for weed as slave labor.
 
2021-03-04 3:07:11 PM  
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2021-03-04 3:08:38 PM  
they killed the 4th ammndmnt a long time ago, now they're just raping the corpse.  Warrantless pursuit into your house for a suspected misdemeanor is just about to be ok'd.
 
2021-03-04 3:11:37 PM  
Hmmm...

Use a hollow-core front door, fill the hollow with Tannerite...

.

(Yes, I know a battering ram won't set it off, dammit)
 
2021-03-04 3:16:19 PM  

born_yesterday: It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.


Where's your evidence Jake?
 
2021-03-04 3:20:52 PM  

Gubbo: Private_Citizen: The war on drugs was Never about being cost effective. It was a way to enrich and empower police departments, put heads in the beds of private prisons, and to disenfranchise and generally suppress "those" people.

Legalize it, regulate/tax it, and close down the policing to prison pipeline. We'll all be better off.

This part is incredibly understated (I fixed the spelling as it was annoying me). Take a crime where it can be a warning with no jail time, or a felony with no jail time but removing the right to vote.


and the worst part is, most of the violent crime in the US can be traced back to the primary or secondary effects of the "war on drugs".
 
2021-03-04 3:22:07 PM  

Yellow Beard: born_yesterday: It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

Where's your evidence Jake?


In china town.
 
2021-03-04 3:22:52 PM  

steklo: drugs

its very simple

supply and demand


there seems to be a good demand for them. More so now than ever...


Amazingly, prohibition of stuff has never, ever worked, and just made things worse. Some people have not learned that yet.
 
2021-03-04 3:24:00 PM  
American police are murdering thieving lying criminals?

You don't say!
 
2021-03-04 3:26:25 PM  
All Cops Are Bastards

Charge them personally for any rules violations on the job or they'll never reform.
 
2021-03-04 3:28:54 PM  
Sorry maybe I missed it, how many "bad apples" shot a guy 9 times then lied 3 ways from Sunday about it?
Just a few?
 
2021-03-04 3:33:11 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: American police are murdering thieving lying criminals?

You don't say!


They aren't nearly that discriminating about who they murder.

If they only murdered actual thieving, lying criminals folks wouldn't be so pissed...
 
2021-03-04 3:36:09 PM  

leeksfromchichis: All Cops Are Bastards

Charge them personally for any rules violations on the job or they'll never reform.


I had a friend who was a police officer.  His widow is smoking hot, but I think she's relieved because he was a bit of a control freak.  I was always really careful around him, because she was.  Now that he's gone, how long is the traditional time gap before I offer to console her?  Was 3 hours enough, or was I supposed to wait 3 days?
 
2021-03-04 3:39:18 PM  

aungen: leeksfromchichis: All Cops Are Bastards

Charge them personally for any rules violations on the job or they'll never reform.

I had a friend who was a police officer.  His widow is smoking hot, but I think she's relieved because he was a bit of a control freak.  I was always really careful around him, because she was.  Now that he's gone, how long is the traditional time gap before I offer to console her?  Was 3 hours enough, or was I supposed to wait 3 days?


If she's smoking hot, 3 hours was magnanimous of you...
 
2021-03-04 3:42:06 PM  

Kit Fister: steklo: drugs

its very simple

supply and demand


there seems to be a good demand for them. More so now than ever...

Amazingly, prohibition of stuff has never, ever worked, and just made things worse. Some people have not learned that yet.


I dunno... I recall reading that in the Middle Ages, certain leaders prohibited the possession of salt (only the royals were allowed to own/use it, or somesuch) on pain of death.

Anyway, that's probably how we're going to look to our grandkids.

// Prohibition is if we're lucky
// that was, what, like a decade of Tommy Guns and bootlegging?
// how's 50 years of racist civil rights disenfranchisement, one of the 4 E's of systemic racism (elections, enforcement, employment, enjoyment) going to look in another 50?
// I literally just made that up, so if you publish using this I get to be 2nd author
 
2021-03-04 3:43:19 PM  
Article discusses the failed war on drugs at length but the system that supports the lying scumbag police officers isn't mentioned at all.
 
2021-03-04 3:44:08 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Legalize weed. Criminalize Myrtle Beach.

/spent family vacations there as a child
//I got better


The state park is great.  Getting TO the park...not so...
 
2021-03-04 3:44:20 PM  

omg bbq: This is what it's all about. It's profit-driven racism. But by all means, the "pot trolls" are the problem, not the massive racist prison industrial complex our country loves so much.


I hate to tell you this, but the pot trolls vote, they influence other voters, they contribute money to pro-drug war entities like SAM, and their arguments are used by the prison industrial complex to maintain its profitability.
 
2021-03-04 3:52:44 PM  

Jeff5: Hmmm...

Use a hollow-core front door, fill the hollow with Tannerite...

.

(Yes, I know a battering ram won't set it off, dammit)


That's good, because if it does you're going to get charged with some slightly more serious shiat
 
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