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2021-03-04 10:05:01 AM  
I know mine is going to likely be a deeply unpopular opinion, but I actually mostly agree with that list, except that I'd swap 1st and 2nd place.  But I do have my own reasons.

Fallout 1 & 2: At their core, great games.  But they are old school, and the clunky mechanics really don't stand the test of time.  There's a steeper learning curve, and the game is definitely more challenging -- which is not a fault at all, mind you, but it's a barrier to entry for newcomers, even if they don't mind the now-retro-style graphics (which I actually love, but I'm also old school).

Fallout 3: Although I did try to play FO1 way back in the day, I couldn't quite get into it -- probably because I discovered it when FPS games were really starting to come into their own, and was dazzled by that, so old school RPGs couldn't hold my attention quite as much.  The thing about FO3 is that, for its faults, I feel like it gets the most important bits dead right.  Its introduction to the world is spot on -- the design of the overworld when you first enter it draws you unobtrusively to just the right places in the right order; it slowly introduces you to the larger world and its mechanics through Moira's missions in her quest to write the Wasteland Survival Guide; it gives you a place to live right at the start if you defuse the bomb (or if you blow the place up and get a place at the hotel) so you have a place to store gear, heal, etc.; you slowly learn the lore of the world as you expand your explorations; and the storyline is a good one -- engaging and altruistic with you playing a pivotal role in doing something that benefits everyone in the end.  Sure, there are bits I didn't care for, and the combat might be a wee bit clunky (I can deal with that quite easily though), but overall I think this is my favourite of the series.

FO:NV: This one is a lot like FO3, but there are bits about I really didn't care for.  The new crafting system was incredibly fiddly to the point where I just never used it, and found looting bodies tedious when you have to sift through the minutae of individual pieces to build single bullets and such.  The storyline wasn't particularly engaging to me; I wasn't really made to care much about The Courier, or most of the people in the game; some of the companions were okay, but I'm not one who likes travelling with companions so I didn't pay much mind to them.  None of the factions did much to endear themselves to me (the Brotherhood was alright, but then the NCR wanted me to destroy their bunker and them with it, which I didn't want to do), it would have been nice to get a house at Goodsprings, but you have to wait 'til you get to Novac and finish the main mission there to get a room at the hotel.  The overworld is kind of boring -- not much in the way of caves and such to explore and such.  Wayne Newton is like a Valium overdose compared to Three Dog, though I get why they used him.  And loads of other things (f***ing Cazadores) which all served to make NV feel underwhelming to me.

FO4: My second favourite, but not without its issues.  The story line is better than NV -- a bit more compelling, certainly, crafting is way better (the new building mechanics though are kind of clunky), the overworld is much more densely populated with lots of interesting buildings, the DLC is much better, and overall a much better game than NV.  On the other hand, the Minutemen missions get tedious quickly, especially when all these settlements you set up periodically get attacked, and it seems like no matter how good the defenses you set up are, they often fall to supermutants or raiders anyway, so if you want to keep those settlements you have to tear all around the damn place helping defend them.  Also, being given power armour practically at the start of the game is just dumb.  There are other things I disliked about the game, but overall it's my second favourite.
 
2021-03-04 10:06:16 AM  
Here, I'll help Screen Rant out with some future article ideas. I know the amount of work that goes into these can be very taxing for the sort of creative talent they engage. I mean, they'll still have to fill in the words and stuff but I've done the heavy research.

EVERY STAR WARS MOVIE RANKED FROM WORST TO BEST
8. Episode IV: A New Hope
7. Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
6. Episode I: The Phantom Menace
5. Rogue One
4. Episode II: Attack of the Clones
3. Episode VI: The Return of the Jedi
2. Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
1. Solo

EVERY HOT DOG TOPPING RANKED FROM WORST TO BEST
7. Mustard
6. Cheese
5. Spicy mustard
4. Relish
3. Chili.
2. Sauerkraut
1. Ketchup.

GREATEST ACTION MOVIES RANKED FROM WORST TO BEST
5. A Good Day to Die Hard
4. The Last Boy Scout
3. Under Siege 2: Dark Territory
2. Last Airbender
1. Battlefield Earth
 
2021-03-04 10:46:43 AM  
I'm waiting for Mike LOWell to weigh on on what I think about this controversy.  I hope he gets here soon, I just don't know what to think.
 
2021-03-04 10:51:01 AM  
Fails without Fallout Tactics.
 
2021-03-04 11:00:43 AM  
Pfffff

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New fallout is elder scrolls with guns.
 
2021-03-04 11:16:52 AM  
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YEAH, Fallout and Fallout 2 just like suck BALLS. They're all OLD, and RPG-ish. So yucky. Fallout 4 is clearly the best because it's the most like a modern FPS and looks pretty and like such as
 
2021-03-04 11:17:53 AM  
Fallout New Vegas is up there with The Witcher 3 as one of the most overrated games.
 
2021-03-04 11:19:12 AM  
Not sure which is numbered more poorly. Fallout, or this list.
 
2021-03-04 11:20:39 AM  
No Tactics, no Brotherhood of Steel. They did not do research.
 
2021-03-04 11:21:28 AM  
Okay, sure, you prioritize shiny graphics over everything else and give zero farks about story or roleplaying in RPGs. Fine, I won't use you for reviews when deciding what to buy because your priorities are super weird, but you're allowed to only care about shininess and discard gameplay entirely, it's your opinion.

Looking at fallout 3 and new vegas, which are literally the same game mechanically and graphically (if you don't turn NV's optionals on) and ranking the former above the latter is, like... objectively incorrect, beyond any possible argument.

And I say this as someone who loved 3 and disagrees with all the shiat it gets from critics. It's a good game, but it's still objectively inferior to New Vegas in a way that few games can be directly compared straight across.
 
2021-03-04 11:29:32 AM  

Marcos P: Pfffff

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New fallout is elder scrolls with guns.


Yeah - That's where I stopped reading.
 
2021-03-04 11:31:11 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Fails without Fallout Tactics.


This.

Wonder how many players realized they were the villains in Tactics. The game is proof the Brotherhood of Steel weren't good guys before Bethesda took hold of the franchise.
 
2021-03-04 11:31:19 AM  
New Vegas is #1 simply for the Old World Blues DLC.
 
2021-03-04 11:33:34 AM  
TFA on Fallout 4:  it fixes its combat to make the game feel more like an FPS

Even more than ranking 1 and 2 at the bottom, I think that sums this article up.  I can't argue with this, because it's clear that fans of Fallout as an RPG series will fundamentally disagree with the author.  If you look at it as an FPS/survival series (which TFA's praise for the base-building also suggests), of course you're going to like the ones that hewed closer to FPS/survival games over the ones that offer a strong RPG experience.
 
2021-03-04 11:41:16 AM  
1 and 2 may be dated, but there's some fun world building and dark humor there that the sequels have just never been able to quite match.

I never will forget finding the whole room full of GECKs in 2.
 
2021-03-04 11:44:46 AM  
Only an expert excrement expediter could have come up with that list.
 
2021-03-04 11:44:47 AM  
Been playing since Wasteland on the C-64.  List is objectively correct, except I'd separate 1 and 2 and put it
Fallout 2, Fallout 1, 76 (although I like the lore and story more than the author), NV, FO: 3, FO: 4

For as good as the story (the least portion time-wise of ANY rpg, much less an open world rpg) of NV is, and the handful of mechanical improvements they made, overall every single open world aspect of 3 is superior.

If it wasn't for my insistence on putting 3 over NV, and acknowledging that NV's story elements alone elevate it over 76 I'd like to put 76 ahead of either.  As a game, you know, something you play for fun supposedly, it comes close, but like so many things in triple-A gaming nowadays fails to pass the finish line.  Map is far superior, weapon variety is more interesting, ui and controls are better, mechanics are equally jank, lore and background info is better, environmental/incidental storytelling is even better than 4, but the story even after Wastelanders and Broken Steel is still pretty underwhelming.  It was supposed to be a sandbox for player interaction, but like the author acknowledges gamers have the social skills of the Mother Nature's Way of Saying Do Not Touch guy from the Far Side.  Because of that it definitely falls short of FO:4 despite some better elements simply because 4 provided a better set of sandbox tools to play Sim Settlers with.
 
2021-03-04 11:47:18 AM  
In descending order:

FO3
FO:NV
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FO76 and FO4 (both sucked Yao guai balls)
 
2021-03-04 11:49:37 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Okay, sure, you prioritize shiny graphics over everything else and give zero farks about story or roleplaying in RPGs. Fine, I won't use you for reviews when deciding what to buy because your priorities are super weird, but you're allowed to only care about shininess and discard gameplay entirely, it's your opinion.

Looking at fallout 3 and new vegas, which are literally the same game mechanically and graphically (if you don't turn NV's optionals on) and ranking the former above the latter is, like... objectively incorrect, beyond any possible argument.

And I say this as someone who loved 3 and disagrees with all the shiat it gets from critics. It's a good game, but it's still objectively inferior to New Vegas in a way that few games can be directly compared straight across.


1) They're not mechanically the same.  NV fixed several flaws in the backend and changed the damage/armor formula among other things.

2) 3 is still superior because Obsidian had no skill at the time in making an open world game and just made a linear narrative and tried to disguise it by gatekeeping the map with deathclaws and cazadors.  And any straying from that linear path, outside of a handful of encounters sprinkled in like a stingy restaurant with croutons leads to an even more barren and empty world than Daggerfall.
 
2021-03-04 11:51:11 AM  

Last Man on Earth: TFA on Fallout 4:  it fixes its combat to make the game feel more like an FPS

Even more than ranking 1 and 2 at the bottom, I think that sums this article up.  I can't argue with this, because it's clear that fans of Fallout as an RPG series will fundamentally disagree with the author.  If you look at it as an FPS/survival series (which TFA's praise for the base-building also suggests), of course you're going to like the ones that hewed closer to FPS/survival games over the ones that offer a strong RPG experience.


The RPG elements are all still there, the game engine just fully supports a more action-oriented experience.

I actually agree with the list, but 1&2 are different games from a different age and can't be compared directly. You don't compare an off-road Jeep with a Camry. Those two games shouldn't even be on the list.

I am actually in favor of putting NV over 3 based solely on the original plotline utilizing a dramatic ending which made no sense when I would guess 90% of players had Fawkes in their party when given the choice of going into the radiation filled room. In gymnastic terms, the routine of FO3 was great, but they couldn't stick the landing. In fact the landing was so terrible that it became a meme. So yeah, I would put NV in the #2 slot underneath FO4.
 
2021-03-04 12:12:25 PM  

Last Man on Earth: TFA on Fallout 4:  it fixes its combat to make the game feel more like an FPS

Even more than ranking 1 and 2 at the bottom, I think that sums this article up.  I can't argue with this, because it's clear that fans of Fallout as an RPG series will fundamentally disagree with the author.  If you look at it as an FPS/survival series (which TFA's praise for the base-building also suggests), of course you're going to like the ones that hewed closer to FPS/survival games over the ones that offer a strong RPG experience.


I think my biggest problem is how narrowly and shallowly the idea of an "RPG" gets interpreted in these discussions.  It always boils down to things like "you can finish this quest in five different ways, depending on if you can pass any one of 4 random stat/skill checks, or just go in guns blazing".  The idea that a quest simply might not be solvable at all because of your choices usually isn't even in the picture.  In many cases, there isn't even a different outcome; all paths lead to effectively the same outcome (maybe some slight difference in reward, but not in a meaningful sense, really).

I think the best counter-example is The Outer Worlds that came out last year, by Obsidian, the same gang behind New Vegas (and clearly carrying a torch for it).  The humor is amusing at first, but it's one joke; "Corporations are stupid, HAWWW".  Over and over and over and over.  The gunplay is . . . fine.  There's a lot of RPG stuff, but none of it MEANS anything.  Most of your "choices" don't mean anything, in terms of gameplay and how they shape the outcome.  I've pumped 100+ hours into each of the newer Fallout titles, but less I think into Fallout 2, but if so, that's mostly due to a smaller body of content.  The Outer Worlds I played through once, in less than 30 hours, and I feel I've seen everything it has to give me.

Give me a game with meaningful exploration and choices.  A game where I have to piece together what happened to solve a problem/mystery, without just connecting Glowy Item A with Glowy Interactable B.  Or clicking "yes" on "bypass challenge because you have the appropriate skill investment?" questions.  Skill checks work backwardsin Fallout games; they shouldn't let you skip the gather quest and just hotwire a system with enough Repair skill.  You should need enough Repair skill to make the gather quest a possible solution.  And if you don't have enough Repair skill, maybe you can't ever solve that problem, and you have to deal with the consequences.  The meaningful, endgame-relevant consequences.  A game where I have to figure out how a character's mind works so I can pick the right dialogue options to convince them to side with me.  Where picking what's most manipulative in conversations eventually gets my character known to be a manipulative sort who will tell whatever lies needed to get what they want.

What I'm getting at here is, in short, as someone who grew up with Fallout 1+2, I think they're bad models for what an RPG could be.  They had serious technical limitations that I can't fault them for, but I expect a modern RPG to have evolved well beyond those nearly 25 years later.  I'm focusing on skill checks here because that was the big complaint everyone had about Fallout 4; where are the RPG skill checks?  You still end up, like New Vegas, with an endgame that involves picking one of three factions (BoS, Underground, Institute) or a go-your-own-way route (Minutemen), where with New Vegas you ended up picking Caesar, NCR, or Mr. House, or going your own way with Yes-Man.  I get a lot more enjoyment out of the games from the sense of exploration and the development of the history of the setting, than I do out of any sense of "role-playing".  I don't fault New Vegas in that, but I've put as much time into Fallout 4 and I don't feel that was wasted.  I've even spent a bundle of time in Fallout 76 and enjoyed it a great deal, more than I did The Outer Worlds.  I don't much like strong survival elements, but base-building is a sight more "roleplay-y" to me than "bypass quest stage with Repair 60" dialogue boxes.
 
2021-03-04 12:13:36 PM  
New Vegas is better than 3 simply because of Fisto.
 
2021-03-04 12:19:33 PM  
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2021-03-04 12:23:16 PM  
Oh look stupid people are stupid.

Lets compare which of the turn based isometric games rank best to with with these real time FPV/3PV games, you know becasue they share the same brand name so clearly comparing them all as if they were the same thing is totes legit.

That is not a game compare this is a genre preference.
 
2021-03-04 12:27:04 PM  

djloid2010: No Tactics, no Brotherhood of Steel. They did not do research.


In order to be the Best Kind of Correct, it should also have included Fallout Shelter.
 
2021-03-04 12:47:03 PM  

Marcos P: Pfffff

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New fallout is elder scrolls with guns.


Elder scrolls with guns is a great idea.  Especially if you aren't weighed down with expectations from Fallout 1/2.  Elder scrolls with guns works*.  Not sure if you could translate Fallout 1/2 into a modern game.

/* after the inevitable fan made patch that fixes enough bugs to make it playable
// -not applicable for Fallout 76, which is why you should have avoided it like Stadia
/// this slashie bugged out because Bethesada
 
2021-03-04 12:47:50 PM  
The only one I play is fallout shelter
 
2021-03-04 12:48:34 PM  

Madeup Farkname: djloid2010: No Tactics, no Brotherhood of Steel. They did not do research.

In order to be the Best Kind of Correct, it should also have included Fallout Shelter.


Neither of you included Wasteland, much less Fountain of Dreams. Which I would argue are both more central to the franchise.  And if we're going to try to mine the entire franchise regardless of connection, Van Buren deserves at least a passing mention despite never releasing.

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2021-03-04 1:42:47 PM  
I really liked Fallout: New Vegas' survival mode that required you to eat, drink, and sleep periodically. It was weird they stripped that option from Fallout 4. What I have never understood about Fallout: New Vegas was the lack of references in-game to one of my favorite low budget movies, with an awesome surf guitar soundtrack,
Six String Samurai!
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Couldn't they have devoted a side quest, or at least a couple of NPCs, to Buddy and the Boy?
It's post-apocalyptic, set in Nevada, with samurai swords, and has an Elvis Impersonator as a King. The whole movie is on Prime and YouTube
Six String Samurai (1998) | Official Full Movie [subtitles]
Youtube oaPP00uNkNI
 
2021-03-04 1:44:52 PM  

Psychopompous: I really liked Fallout: New Vegas' survival mode that required you to eat, drink, and sleep periodically. It was weird they stripped that option from Fallout 4. What I have never understood about Fallout: New Vegas was the lack of references in-game to one of my favorite low budget movies, with an awesome surf guitar soundtrack,
Six String Samurai!
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Couldn't they have devoted a side quest, or at least a couple of NPCs, to Buddy and the Boy?
It's post-apocalyptic, set in Nevada, with samurai swords, and has an Elvis Impersonator as a King. The whole movie is on Prime and YouTube
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/oaPP00uN​kNI]


You get a Smart vote because ONLY ONE MAN COULD HAVE KILLED THIS MANY RUSSIANS.
 
2021-03-04 1:52:52 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Psychopompous: I really liked Fallout: New Vegas' survival mode that required you to eat, drink, and sleep periodically. It was weird they stripped that option from Fallout 4. What I have never understood about Fallout: New Vegas was the lack of references in-game to one of my favorite low budget movies, with an awesome surf guitar soundtrack,
Six String Samurai!
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Couldn't they have devoted a side quest, or at least a couple of NPCs, to Buddy and the Boy?
It's post-apocalyptic, set in Nevada, with samurai swords, and has an Elvis Impersonator as a King. The whole movie is on Prime and YouTube
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/oaPP00uN​kNI]

You get a Smart vote because ONLY ONE MAN COULD HAVE KILLED THIS MANY RUSSIANS.


The Soundtrack CD has a track with that Russian General talking about "I do not like Rock Music." It also has a track with Buddy telling the Boy "Fly away, little butterfly, flutter away." or words to that effect. The rest of the CD is a rockin' set by the Red Elvises.

One my favorite things about Six String Samurai was the "Ratchet", the universal tool capable of fixing anything. It really had a video game feel to it.
 
2021-03-04 4:35:13 PM  

Psychopompous: I really liked Fallout: New Vegas' survival mode that required you to eat, drink, and sleep periodically. It was weird they stripped that option from Fallout 4.


They did bring back survival mode in a patch. Unlike NV, you can only save by sleeping and there is no fast travel, plus antibiotics are goddamn necessity, especially if you rely on using stimpaks or drugs in combat. Melee character builds are NOT recommended (shame, because I had a tribal/cowboy weapon build in survival NV).

But on the positive, it does make settlement building essential and worth a damn. And that swimming perk is useful for avoiding patrols and getting around the wasteland FAST and safe, especially if the roads have robots and Rust Devils raider gang unleashed by one of the DLCs.

/ps if you do go back for Fallout 4 survival, buy the donut shop off creation club. Donuts, coffees and teas are great substitutes for drugs, provide buffing food for all sorts of useful stats, they can make a little money in settlements if you build a shop, and the table booths (magnet for unemployed settlers) clothes and armor paint job aren't bad extras either. Cooking oil vials will be the most valuable junk btw to create donut fryers at settlements.
 
2021-03-04 4:50:56 PM  
List is shiat, but it's just being fair to acknowledge when older games don't hold up that well. The interface is usually clunkier, pace slower, and best mechanics repeated and perfected in newer games. Unless you're revisiting nostalgia times - that's entirely different.
 
2021-03-04 7:34:14 PM  
I run a high school RPG club that is running a pnp version of Fallout.  As an old fuddy-duddy, it's directly based on Fallouts 1 and 2 in style and tone.  The kids love it.
 
2021-03-04 8:07:59 PM  

Practical_Draconian: Psychopompous: I really liked Fallout: New Vegas' survival mode that required you to eat, drink, and sleep periodically. It was weird they stripped that option from Fallout 4.

They did bring back survival mode in a patch. Unlike NV, you can only save by sleeping and there is no fast travel, plus antibiotics are goddamn necessity, especially if you rely on using stimpaks or drugs in combat. Melee character builds are NOT recommended (shame, because I had a tribal/cowboy weapon build in survival NV).

But on the positive, it does make settlement building essential and worth a damn. And that swimming perk is useful for avoiding patrols and getting around the wasteland FAST and safe, especially if the roads have robots and Rust Devils raider gang unleashed by one of the DLCs.

/ps if you do go back for Fallout 4 survival, buy the donut shop off creation club. Donuts, coffees and teas are great substitutes for drugs, provide buffing food for all sorts of useful stats, they can make a little money in settlements if you build a shop, and the table booths (magnet for unemployed settlers) clothes and armor paint job aren't bad extras either. Cooking oil vials will be the most valuable junk btw to create donut fryers at settlements.


I'll have to reload Fallout 4, it's been awhile. I've been enjoying Fallout Shelter lately, it seems oddly comforting during lockdown. "Vault Forever, Surface Never!" What sets the Fallout series apart from the other post-apocalyptic games is the ludicrously upbeat nature of Vault Boy and that 1950's Blast from the Past, Brendan Fraser, sort of feel.
 
2021-03-04 9:44:59 PM  
This list is better than the far cry one the other week
 
2021-03-04 10:23:26 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Here, I'll help Screen Rant out with some future article ideas. I know the amount of work that goes into these can be very taxing for the sort of creative talent they engage. I mean, they'll still have to fill in the words and stuff but I've done the heavy research.

EVERY STAR WARS MOVIE RANKED FROM WORST TO BEST
8. Episode IV: A New Hope
7. Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
6. Episode I: The Phantom Menace
5. Rogue One
4. Episode II: Attack of the Clones
3. Episode VI: The Return of the Jedi
2. Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
1. Solo

EVERY HOT DOG TOPPING RANKED FROM WORST TO BEST
7. Mustard
6. Cheese
5. Spicy mustard
4. Relish
3. Chili.
2. Sauerkraut
1. Ketchup.

GREATEST ACTION MOVIES RANKED FROM WORST TO BEST
5. A Good Day to Die Hard
4. The Last Boy Scout
3. Under Siege 2: Dark Territory
2. Last Airbender
1. Battlefield Earth


No farking ketchup.
 
2021-03-04 10:26:34 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: Marcos P: Pfffff

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New fallout is elder scrolls with guns.

Elder scrolls with guns is a great idea.  Especially if you aren't weighed down with expectations from Fallout 1/2.  Elder scrolls with guns works*.  Not sure if you could translate Fallout 1/2 into a modern game.

/* after the inevitable fan made patch that fixes enough bugs to make it playable
// -not applicable for Fallout 76, which is why you should have avoided it like Stadia
/// this slashie bugged out because Bethesada


Wasteland 2 and Wasteland 3.

No really, modern FO1 and FO2 style games set in Wasteland...
 
2021-03-04 11:23:03 PM  
One thing I think should be mentioned is Fallout New Vegas vs. Fallout 3 is kind of a regional thing.

If you grew up in the Western US (like I did, whose parents drove from LA to Vegas or Laughlin a lot while I was growing up) -- vast emptiness interrupted by the weird kitsch of the Mojave was captured perfectly in New Vegas.

If you grew up in the Eastern US, you seem to think Fallout 3's subway tunnels filled with constant zombies are NOT fricking boring. Crawling through those sections were a big minus to me. Fallout 4 made the subway crawls few and far between, thankfully.

/PS: One reason I liked the Sierra Madre Casino expansion in New Vegas: it was located where Laughlin should be on the map. Kind of a big omission in leaving out Nevada's third-largest gambling city with several casinos on the river, RV parks and an Arizona town (Bullhead City) on the other side, plus when I made a Native American character using melee and cowboy weapons, it was easier than my previous character's sniper/energy weapon build
 
2021-03-04 11:34:40 PM  

NathanAllen: yet_another_wumpus: Marcos P: Pfffff

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New fallout is elder scrolls with guns.

Elder scrolls with guns is a great idea.  Especially if you aren't weighed down with expectations from Fallout 1/2.  Elder scrolls with guns works*.  Not sure if you could translate Fallout 1/2 into a modern game.

/* after the inevitable fan made patch that fixes enough bugs to make it playable
// -not applicable for Fallout 76, which is why you should have avoided it like Stadia
/// this slashie bugged out because Bethesada

Wasteland 2 and Wasteland 3.

No really, modern FO1 and FO2 style games set in Wasteland...


Wasteland 2 made you feel like you were writing characters for a novel in the character creation. Wasteland 3 stripped a lot of that out but still made your characters feel unique enough.

An elderly cowboy repairman with shotgun and leadership talents, a fat goth girl with pyromania issues, a chain-smoking, s--t talking sniper that looked like Grace Jones and a kleptomaniac hipster doctor were my Wasteland 3 squad members.
 
2021-03-05 2:09:20 AM  
I still enjoy going to the wiki, hitting random page, and reading the crazy shiat you can do to complete missions in Fallout 2. Such a great game. Sulik has something to say to the dolt who wrote that article: "Most people have evil spirits. You? You have stupid spirits. Go see shaman. Get hole in head. Big hole. Very big. Huge!"

Now that Microsoft owns Bethesda, I'd kind of like to see Obsidian Entertainment jump on the remake bandwagon and update the old Fallout games.

Bonus Fallout 2 shenanigans courtesy of TV Tropes: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/p​mwiki.php​/Funny/Fallout2.
 
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