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2021-03-04 11:41:02 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: jake_lex: I'd be willing to accept voter ID laws if the ID's were made free and easy to obtain.

IDs get lost, stolen, forgotten about. More importantly they are unnecessary to the process. I wouldn't, and you shouldn't either.


They also, by amazing coincidence, tend to mis-match what shows up on the voting rolls much more frequently for women, minorities and immigrants than they do for white, Anglo, US born men.
 
2021-03-04 11:41:35 AM  
The name Steve Scalise sure brings out some classy actors.

But fark him and the GOP for trying to restrict access to the polls over a problem not proven to exist.
 
2021-03-04 11:42:19 AM  

bthom37: Doesn't Steve have another baseball game to go to?


Too bad the shooter wasn't in the Air Force.
 
2021-03-04 11:42:25 AM  
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2021-03-04 11:43:33 AM  
Gentlemen!  You can't vote in here!  This is America!
 
2021-03-04 11:45:29 AM  

fsbilly: bthom37: Doesn't Steve have another baseball game to go to?

Too bad the shooter wasn't in the Air Force.


Be careful. Ze Fuhrer's mods have vays of making your comments disappear.
 
2021-03-04 11:45:31 AM  

patrick767: Karma Chameleon: Mail in voting is awesome. You would think conservatives would applaud decreasing the costs associated with having physical polling places and paying poll workers to sit on their ass. But...assholes til the bitter end.

They like it when it's in Florida and lots of old conservatives do it. They hate it when "those people" do it.


Georgia loved it for many years until a Democrat won.  Now we hate it.  Purely coincidence, though, I'm sure.
 
2021-03-04 11:45:43 AM  
This will never pass the senate.
 
2021-03-04 11:45:54 AM  
For years, when people would try to go BSAB on me, my response has been that one party (D) encourages people to participate in the electoral process while the other (R) wants to suppress the vote as much as possible - specifically along racial lines. So, you tell me which party believes more in liberty, freedom and democracy itself.
 
2021-03-04 11:48:56 AM  

Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately


On what basis?
 
2021-03-04 11:49:01 AM  
We get it. You're a racist asshole and hate that black people might vote more.

This is an "outrage" but the appalling shiat Ex-President Useless Asshole did for 4 years, no problem.

So that's how much we should care about your opinion on this or anything else.
 
2021-03-04 11:49:07 AM  

Nah'mean: For years, when people would try to go BSAB on me, my response has been that one party (D) encourages people to participate in the electoral process while the other (R) wants to suppress the vote as much as possible - specifically along racial lines. So, you tell me which party believes more in liberty, freedom and democracy itself.


True. One party tells you straight up that if you don't give them some substantial coin, you can fark off and die.

The other party tells you they're gonna fight really hard to stop the former party mentioned, but in truth, if you don't give them some substantial coin, you can fark off and die.
 
2021-03-04 11:49:34 AM  
Jeezus!  It's like democrats think they're PEOPLE somehow!
 
2021-03-04 11:52:10 AM  
Why don't Repubs ever mention that the military votes by mail?
 
2021-03-04 11:56:48 AM  
Let me guess. Manchin was the sole Dem no-vote. But who were the two abstentions?
 
2021-03-04 11:57:17 AM  

Lumbar Puncture: Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately

How so? None of it makes voting mandatory or denies access from any specific demographic from being able to vote.


because the courts have been allowing states a lot of leeway on how they manage their voting. We can see this even with this last election where trump had all his federal cases dismissed. So i think its going to be difficult for congress to enact these kind of voting laws if they run affowl to a states voting laws
 
2021-03-04 11:57:31 AM  
Die mad.
 
2021-03-04 11:58:04 AM  

gilgigamesh: OUTRAGED.

OK, now I have RAGE, and it's OUT.

So what do you want me to do with it, Steve?


Donate to his PAC and help support him and his loved ones.
 
2021-03-04 11:58:55 AM  

bthom37: Doesn't Steve have another baseball game to go to?


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2021-03-04 11:59:09 AM  
I am outraged it took this long.  Also outraged that Scalise leaned nothing from the bullet that nearly killed him.
 
2021-03-04 12:01:40 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: How dare they let Americans vote!


How do you know they are Americans?  No ID required.
 
2021-03-04 12:03:06 PM  

EyeballKid: True. One party tells you straight up that if you don't give them some substantial coin, you can fark off and die.


Says the guy complaining that his comment lamenting the failure of a would-be political assassination was deleted.
 
2021-03-04 12:03:36 PM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: How do you know they are Americans?  No ID required.


Their citizenship is confirmed when they register or are registered by the state automatically. A process already in place for years in many states.
 
2021-03-04 12:04:35 PM  
The truly stupid thing is that the GOP could just stop being the racist, nationalist party and it would be so much easier. Farking hell, most of those Catholic "illegal immigrants", as the GOP prefers to call them, just need a few fig leafs for cover.
 
2021-03-04 12:07:26 PM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: Marcus Aurelius: How dare they let Americans vote!

How do you know they are Americans?  No ID required.


Well, it depends.  Are they white?
 
2021-03-04 12:08:53 PM  

Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately


Just like requiring the minimum drinking age to be 21 was found to be unconstitutional.
 
2021-03-04 12:09:55 PM  
How about w compromise, if you register as a democrat you can vote by mail without an ID.  If you register as a republican you will need to vote in person and show your ID.  We'll also close most of your polling places and limit their hours if that makes you feel better.  That way both groups get what they want.  Deal?
 
2021-03-04 12:10:23 PM  

Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately

How so? None of it makes voting mandatory or denies access from any specific demographic from being able to vote.

because the courts have been allowing states a lot of leeway on how they manage their voting. We can see this even with this last election where trump had all his federal cases dismissed. So i think its going to be difficult for congress to enact these kind of voting laws if they run affowl to a states voting laws


The courts may allow the states a lot of leeway to manage their voting, however this doesn't really affect how the states run their voting it's just determining that there's guidelines on what they can't deny which is constitutional since the 14th amendment section 2 was implemented, and was the basis for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. It's just broadening what counts as denying a vote.
 
2021-03-04 12:10:38 PM  
Yes I too always wished the Scalise thing had gone the other way.
 
2021-03-04 12:11:09 PM  
My response:  I AM outraged.  That you have a problem with it.
 
2021-03-04 12:12:13 PM  

TomDooley: Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately

Just like requiring the minimum drinking age to be 21 was found to be unconstitutional.


false equivalency
 
2021-03-04 12:12:55 PM  
Cat Food Sandwiches: How do you know they are Americans?  No ID required.


Ummm...you know they're talking about special ID for voting, right?
 
2021-03-04 12:15:06 PM  
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2021-03-04 12:16:34 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately

How so? None of it makes voting mandatory or denies access from any specific demographic from being able to vote.

because the courts have been allowing states a lot of leeway on how they manage their voting. We can see this even with this last election where trump had all his federal cases dismissed. So i think its going to be difficult for congress to enact these kind of voting laws if they run affowl to a states voting laws

The courts may allow the states a lot of leeway to manage their voting, however this doesn't really affect how the states run their voting it's just determining that there's guidelines on what they can't deny which is constitutional since the 14th amendment section 2 was implemented, and was the basis for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. It's just broadening what counts as denying a vote.


from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.
 
2021-03-04 12:21:17 PM  

Doem: from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.


Oh... so you don't understand the laws involved. got it.
 
2021-03-04 12:21:17 PM  
Universal vote by mail should be a requirement for a state to maintain its Congressional and EC representation per A14
 
2021-03-04 12:23:56 PM  

Kazan: Doem: from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.

Oh... so you don't understand the laws involved. got it.


rage harder.
 
2021-03-04 12:27:34 PM  

Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately

How so? None of it makes voting mandatory or denies access from any specific demographic from being able to vote.

because the courts have been allowing states a lot of leeway on how they manage their voting. We can see this even with this last election where trump had all his federal cases dismissed. So i think its going to be difficult for congress to enact these kind of voting laws if they run affowl to a states voting laws

The courts may allow the states a lot of leeway to manage their voting, however this doesn't really affect how the states run their voting it's just determining that there's guidelines on what they can't deny which is constitutional since the 14th amendment section 2 was implemented, and was the basis for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. It's just broadening what counts as denying a vote.

from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.


Most of those lawsuits were basically saying, "We know the state changed these laws well in advance of the election, but we didn't like that, so we decided they weren't allowed to do that because we invented a requirement that they be passed a specific way thatbthey didn't do. Because reasons." This isn't anything like that premise, because this isn't about saying "We don't like how that state passed its laws."
 
2021-03-04 12:28:05 PM  

Doem: Kazan: Doem: from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.

Oh... so you don't understand the laws involved. got it.

rage harder.


They sold a 19-year-old account to a 15-year old Fortnite player?
 
2021-03-04 12:28:46 PM  

RasIanI: Don't you have to show ID when you register to vote? Pretty sure you do.

More Bad Faith Arguments, made in continued bad faith.


Not in all states.  In Texas, you just fill out the form, and either a registrar can deliver it or you mail it in.  ID doesn't come in until its time to vote.

And the voter ID rule is a pain in the ass, and not just for low-income people who may not have an ID.  People get confused on if an expired ID is acceptable, people who just moved or just got married have name and address issues, college kids with home addresses on the IDs, IDs can get lost or stolen.  I haven't renewed my license in a while, but they used to actually keep the old one and give you a slip of paper saying "the new one's in the mail", leaving people without an ID for a few weeks.
 
2021-03-04 12:31:11 PM  
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2021-03-04 12:32:26 PM  

austerity101: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately

How so? None of it makes voting mandatory or denies access from any specific demographic from being able to vote.

because the courts have been allowing states a lot of leeway on how they manage their voting. We can see this even with this last election where trump had all his federal cases dismissed. So i think its going to be difficult for congress to enact these kind of voting laws if they run affowl to a states voting laws

The courts may allow the states a lot of leeway to manage their voting, however this doesn't really affect how the states run their voting it's just determining that there's guidelines on what they can't deny which is constitutional since the 14th amendment section 2 was implemented, and was the basis for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. It's just broadening what counts as denying a vote.

from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.

Most of those lawsuits were basically saying, "We know the state changed these laws well in advance of the election, but we didn't like that, so we decided they weren't allowed to do that because we invented a requirement that they be passed a specific way thatbthey didn't do. Because reasons." This isn't anything like that premise, because this isn't about saying "We don't like how that state passed its laws.

The Envoy: Doem: Kazan: Doem: from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.

Oh... so you don't understand the laws involved. got it.

rage harder.

They sold a 19-year-old account to a 15-year old Fortnite player?


fark is funny. "i dont like what this person says so im going to check his profile and see how old his account is"
 
2021-03-04 12:32:31 PM  
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2021-03-04 12:33:29 PM  

austerity101: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately

How so? None of it makes voting mandatory or denies access from any specific demographic from being able to vote.

because the courts have been allowing states a lot of leeway on how they manage their voting. We can see this even with this last election where trump had all his federal cases dismissed. So i think its going to be difficult for congress to enact these kind of voting laws if they run affowl to a states voting laws

The courts may allow the states a lot of leeway to manage their voting, however this doesn't really affect how the states run their voting it's just determining that there's guidelines on what they can't deny which is constitutional since the 14th amendment section 2 was implemented, and was the basis for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. It's just broadening what counts as denying a vote.

from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.

Most of those lawsuits were basically saying, "We know the state changed these laws well in advance of the election, but we didn't like that, so we decided they weren't allowed to do that because we invented a requirement that they be passed a specific way thatbthey didn't do. Because reasons." This isn't anything like that premise, because this isn't about saying "We don't like how that state passed its laws."


It's even better in PA: "we passed this law to expand mail-in voting but now that more democrats than republicans will vote by mail, we want the courts to call it unconstitutional."
 
2021-03-04 12:35:40 PM  

austerity101: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately

How so? None of it makes voting mandatory or denies access from any specific demographic from being able to vote.

because the courts have been allowing states a lot of leeway on how they manage their voting. We can see this even with this last election where trump had all his federal cases dismissed. So i think its going to be difficult for congress to enact these kind of voting laws if they run affowl to a states voting laws

The courts may allow the states a lot of leeway to manage their voting, however this doesn't really affect how the states run their voting it's just determining that there's guidelines on what they can't deny which is constitutional since the 14th amendment section 2 was implemented, and was the basis for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. It's just broadening what counts as denying a vote.

from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.

Most of those lawsuits were basically saying, "We know the state changed these laws well in advance of the election, but we didn't like that, so we decided they weren't allowed to do that because we invented a requirement that they be passed a specific way thatbthey didn't do. Because reasons." This isn't anything like that premise, because this isn't about saying "We don't like how that state passed its laws."


Yep, these are two totally separate situations that have zero in common.
 
2021-03-04 12:36:43 PM  

austerity101: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: Lumbar Puncture: Doem: this will be found to be unconstitutional unfortunately

How so? None of it makes voting mandatory or denies access from any specific demographic from being able to vote.

because the courts have been allowing states a lot of leeway on how they manage their voting. We can see this even with this last election where trump had all his federal cases dismissed. So i think its going to be difficult for congress to enact these kind of voting laws if they run affowl to a states voting laws

The courts may allow the states a lot of leeway to manage their voting, however this doesn't really affect how the states run their voting it's just determining that there's guidelines on what they can't deny which is constitutional since the 14th amendment section 2 was implemented, and was the basis for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. It's just broadening what counts as denying a vote.

from what i read regarding things like automatic registration ect. i dont see that holding up. The trump admin. challenged how the states did some of these things (which they changed because of covid) and none of it made it through the courts. I cant really see the courts on the flipside siding with the feds when the states have established laws on these issues.

Most of those lawsuits were basically saying, "We know the state changed these laws well in advance of the election, but we didn't like that, so we decided they weren't allowed to do that because we invented a requirement that they be passed a specific way thatbthey didn't do. Because reasons." This isn't anything like that premise, because this isn't about saying "We don't like how that state passed its laws."


thats the narrative but if their really was a serious constitutional issue there the courts would have heard it. There wasnt any because the courts have been siding with the states on these issues for the last 10 years and everybody knows that. Justice Thomas felt there could be an opportunity to revisit but he was running up against too much precedent and the other justices probably didnt have the stomach for it in the context of this election.
 
2021-03-04 12:36:51 PM  

SFSailor: I feel like we need a "if you can't vote on it, yourself, on _your_ ballot, you can STFU  -- and that includes donating money to causes / ballot issues too" amendment.


There's no way that could turn out badly.

Jesus
 
2021-03-04 12:41:12 PM  
I really wish there was a way to stop Public officials from outright lying on social media
 
2021-03-04 12:41:13 PM  
From the comments:

All of those mail in ballots are 100% fine. But they should be required to be notarized. Weather from an old persons home, a military base, or any other form of absentee ballot to provide proof. Not just paid workers filling out fake ballots and throwing them in a mailbox.

I'm sure they'll agree that following that logic, tax returns should also be notarized to prevent fake returns from being thrown in a mailbox.

Hell, campaign mailers should be notarized too.  Wouldn't want some grifter throwing fake promises into a mailbox.
 
2021-03-04 12:44:34 PM  

Doem: thats the narrative but if their really was a serious constitutional issue there the courts would have heard it.


Well again, what's the serious constitutional issue?

State courts making a determination in completely unrelated cases isn't one.
 
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