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2021-03-03 8:39:15 PM  
I'm not buying a house in L.A. period. Mostly, because I couldn't afford one if I lived 3 lifetimes.
I would love to move to California, but I do not have the financial means.
 
2021-03-03 8:39:46 PM  
As Bugs Bunny used to say, "I know this defies the law of gravity, but I never studied law."
 
2021-03-03 9:08:30 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I'm not buying a house in L.A. period. Mostly, because I couldn't afford one if I lived 3 lifetimes.
I would love to move to California, but I do not have the financial means.


Not everywhere in California is outrageously expensive.
Depending on what you want, it is doable.
If you want a slice of sand at the beach, not even close.  Same as Florida.
 
2021-03-03 9:26:55 PM  
Further reaffirms my belief that 90‰ of diy carpenters have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

Don't get me started on diy electricians.
 
2021-03-03 9:27:08 PM  
Wtf with the ‰
 
2021-03-03 9:28:14 PM  
Mmm.... sliced sandwedges.
 
2021-03-03 9:51:22 PM  

capt.snicklefritz: Wtf with the ‰


Don't get me started on diy punctuation sign writers.
 
2021-03-03 11:01:55 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I'm not buying a house in L.A. period. Mostly, because I couldn't afford one if I lived 3 lifetimes.
I would love to move to California, but I do not have the financial means.


there are some nice places in Bakersfield, Hanford or El Centro.
 
2021-03-03 11:23:47 PM  

dj_bigbird: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I'm not buying a house in L.A. period. Mostly, because I couldn't afford one if I lived 3 lifetimes.
I would love to move to California, but I do not have the financial means.

there are some nice places in Bakersfield, Hanford or El Centro.


There's a really nice affordable neighborhood in Hanford.

But it's still Hanford.
 
2021-03-04 1:27:47 AM  
"That moment you realise your house is being held up by a game of Jenga... "


Larf
 
2021-03-04 1:35:12 AM  
I literally had an inspection done on the house I'm buying today, so I'm getting a kick...and an ulcer.
 
2021-03-04 1:43:29 AM  
L.A. isn't even on a hill, Subs.
 
2021-03-04 1:51:29 AM  
Based on the photos, I think I'd just avoid buying an old house in LA, unless of course my plan was to demolish it and start from scratch....
 
2021-03-04 1:53:35 AM  
FTA:

For nearly 30 years, Alpha Structural has developed a powerful reputation as the number one foundation engineering and repair, landslide repair, earthquake, and structural rehabilitation contractor in the Los Angeles area

Alpha Structural must have really made it rain over at boredpanda for that knob-wash.
 
2021-03-04 1:55:54 AM  
Ugh my house is on a boring slope. Next neighborhood over, they have 70° driveways and twice the property values because they have a house overlooking the lake. It's all going to fall in the lake, eventually.
 
2021-03-04 2:03:07 AM  
One of my friends briefly rented a very nice house that was slowly sliding down a hill.  He figured it wasn't likely to just fall down all at once and he could leave at any time if the cracks got too alarming.  It wasn't condemned or anything.  Just the owner didn't want to move in and suing the contractor takes forever.
 
2021-03-04 2:48:18 AM  

dj_bigbird: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I'm not buying a house in L.A. period. Mostly, because I couldn't afford one if I lived 3 lifetimes.
I would love to move to California, but I do not have the financial means.

there are some nice places in Bakersfield, Hanford or El Centro.


Parkfield is very affordable, although you do have to watch out for the jumping curbs.

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2021-03-04 2:56:17 AM  
I used to drive a mobile trailer repair truck and one day the owner sent me out to weld on a house. They had raised a Victorian about eight feet of so and used I beams for the support. It was the first and last time I welded a house.

It looked pretty solid to me.
 
2021-03-04 2:57:53 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I'm not buying a house in L.A. period. Mostly, because I couldn't afford one if I lived 3 lifetimes.
I would love to move to California, but I do not have the financial means.


There is always Barstow. Dirt cheap there.

/no one wants to live there is why
 
2021-03-04 3:03:22 AM  
Our pentagon-shaped lot in a "culture-sack" has one side with a 7' high concrete block retaining-wall. The other side is a roadway (12' wide) for an Irrigation canal (this ain't Venice!). That was part of the appeal of the lot: no backyard neighbor. On the other side of the canal are fields years from development.

As part of the buying process, we had the wall & road construction (1991) inspected & certified for integrity. It has never flooded here but has in 1997 2 miles south spreading up to 1/2 mile in farmland. We opted to buy flood insura6 & got better rates buy encouraging our neighbors (10 of the 12 houses are owned by Hubby's siblings & their children; my late MiL had umbilicals of tungsten!) to buy a group policy. It's an unincorporated village & my late parents-in-Law bought the last house on a dead end lane. 20 years later a small builder added 10 houses in a court & someone else's built another, a kinda outta place McMansion. The In-Law house & McMansion (still owned by builder) balance the entry to the Culture Sack (
 
2021-03-04 3:04:47 AM  
It's surprising how much mid-20th century construction still exists everywhere in Los Angeles. Neighborhoods got built up pretty quickly (and somewhat cheaply) after WWII, and building codes back then weren't quite what they are now.
 
2021-03-04 3:24:52 AM  
Some of that looked much worse than it was.

A few of them were way, way, way worse than the looked.
 
2021-03-04 3:32:17 AM  
Not to denigrate the builders, whose work I have seen before, but that stretch of Hwy 1 is nearer to Big Sur, and routinely washes away every few years, as the roadway is right up against the cliff.
 
2021-03-04 3:42:39 AM  
These guys post on imgur a lot and it's super interesting stuff.  I follow them on insta too.
 
2021-03-04 3:50:12 AM  

dj_bigbird: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I'm not buying a house in L.A. period. Mostly, because I couldn't afford one if I lived 3 lifetimes.
I would love to move to California, but I do not have the financial means.

there are some nice places in Bakersfield, Hanford or El Centro.


Naw, move to a nice place like Oildale.  Bring your sheets and hoods or they'll get cross though
 
2021-03-04 3:59:05 AM  
Emergency! did an episode about a cantilever house collapsing down a slope..The owners were trying
to shore it up with wooden cribbing and just made it worse and ended up being trapped..
 
2021-03-04 4:08:20 AM  

blender61: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I'm not buying a house in L.A. period. Mostly, because I couldn't afford one if I lived 3 lifetimes.
I would love to move to California, but I do not have the financial means.

Not everywhere in California is outrageously expensive.
Depending on what you want, it is doable.
If you want a slice of sand at the beach, not even close.  Same as Florida.


That depends on where in Florida.  In my area you can get a decent 3/2 or a condo on the beach for less than 300k.  You obviously aren't doing that on Miami Beach but a lot of our coast is still "affordable".
 
2021-03-04 4:11:39 AM  
Even a 'nice place' in California is still in California -- land of earthquakes, wildfires, seasonal power outages, decaying infrastructure, hordes of demented SJWs, homeless encampments, the kind of state-level governmental incompetence that comes from living in a jurisdiction without competitive elections, and all the joys that come with living as a subject of the US federal-level oligarchy.

Sure, if staying in Trumpistan is your only choice, then California is better than most other options, but anyone who wants nice really needs to hop over an ocean.
 
2021-03-04 4:29:10 AM  

wildcardjack: Ugh my house is on a boring slope. Next neighborhood over, they have 70° driveways and twice the property values because they have a house overlooking the lake. It's all going to fall in the lake, eventually.


Keep telling them that. Just keep writing editorials for the local paper, phone in to the local talk radio, have the local school add it to their monthly newsletter. Okay so here's the plan Eventually they will all be so afraid of falling in the lake, and the property values so destroyed by gossipping gradeschoolers and talk radio has0beens, that you can offer them a pittance and buy their homes.

And as for you? Don't worry. All you'll need is tent pegs and bungie cords. Like, lots of tent pegs and bungie cords. As many as fit in the back of your pickup truck. I can fill you in on what to do once you've bought the houses.
 
2021-03-04 4:56:45 AM  
I recall that a few homes slid downhill in Sherman Oaks during the 1994 Northridge earthquake.
 
2021-03-04 5:57:25 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: FTA:

For nearly 30 years, Alpha Structural has developed a powerful reputation as the number one foundation engineering and repair, landslide repair, earthquake, and structural rehabilitation contractor in the Los Angeles area

Alpha Structural must have really made it rain over at boredpanda for that knob-wash.


This. I think it was a great ad.
 
2021-03-04 6:04:28 AM  

WalkingSedgwick: , but anyone who wants nice really needs to hop over an ocean.


Please elaborate.
 
2021-03-04 6:08:45 AM  
My mom's farmhouse was built on a mountain/hill side.
The reason I say mountain/hill, is that it's supposed to be a mountain side, but technically the mountain has a LOT of dirt mixed into the rocks. Over the years, with rainfall, that managed to moved the house that didn't have really well-designed foundations. The house more or less started sloping on one side and cracked in the middle between the two main slabs.
 
2021-03-04 6:14:30 AM  
I have a T-shirt from Everdry that asks " how big is your crack?"
 
2021-03-04 6:39:03 AM  

capt.snicklefritz: Further reaffirms my belief that 90‰ of diy carpenters have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

Don't get me started on diy electricians.


While this is true, I see plenty of appalling work done by people calling themselves "pros" too.
/"I've been doing it (this completely wrong way) for 20 years and never had a problem"
//also, "I never heard of that code requirement" said by someone who builds buildings for a living and has never bothered to actually read and understand what the building code says.
 
2021-03-04 6:48:27 AM  
That was a pretty good photo collection.  I've seen quite a few comparable things over the years.  I need to go through my photos and make a compilation.
/car jacks used as foundation supports
//earth basements with no basement walls
///structures standing up 'out of habit'
 
2021-03-04 8:13:13 AM  
L.A. - not even once
 
2021-03-04 8:47:15 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Emergency! did an episode about a cantilever house collapsing down a slope..The owners were trying
to shore it up with wooden cribbing and just made it worse and ended up being trapped..


I think that episode was on last week.

/ On one of our provider's "classic TV" channels
// Twice a day on weekdays on COZI TV
/// Worked at home so long we've lapped the whole series five times
 
2021-03-04 9:35:36 AM  

saturn badger: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I'm not buying a house in L.A. period. Mostly, because I couldn't afford one if I lived 3 lifetimes.
I would love to move to California, but I do not have the financial means.

There is always Barstow. Dirt cheap there.

/no one wants to live there is why


Yes, but High Speed Rail!
 
2021-03-04 9:43:53 AM  
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Nothing wrong with that. Looks like some of the piers my family has built.
 
2021-03-04 10:17:46 AM  

capt.snicklefritz: Further reaffirms my belief that 90‰ of diy carpenters have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

Don't get me started on diy electricians.


And plumbers, who have no problem with burning wiring, undermining foundations, cutting support beams, etc.

alphastructural on reddit posts inspections weekly. Some are very scary.
 
2021-03-04 10:40:14 AM  
My brother-in-law over at Romero's Paint & Body Shop can fix that for you. He also does taxes & is a notary
 
2021-03-04 11:05:24 AM  
CSB:
My grandpa bought a defunct resort cabin-on-the-lake in the late 70s.  It is about 10ft from the shoreline.  The Lake is now home to several high end resorts and rich people build their custom multi-million dollar vacation homes there.  However law dictates you can no longer build a home closer then 100ft from the shore.  Before he died he said the cabin was by far the best investment he ever made.

The Lake is Dam-controlled, so the water level doesn't change much.  But because it was basically built on sand, over time the living room started sloping towards the lake.

My parents recently decided the cabin would be their retirement home (it's 1-level).  Most of the cost of remodeling/renovation was fixing structural issues caused by being so close to the Lake.

Besides the major foundation settling issues, the header board over one of the picture windows was completely rotted under the siding to the point that, Structurally, the window was holding up the house.  Contractor said the window likely would have shattered within a few months.

Also one the fireplaces, which we never really used, had gotten water damaged to the point that there was a hole in the firebox.  A long fire likely would have lit the cabin on fire.

The "remodel" ended up resulting in the entire cabin being torn down, the foundation being shored up, A new cabin was then built on top of the fixed up foundation.  The contractor who did it said he had seen all this before.
 
2021-03-04 11:40:27 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Emergency! did an episode about a cantilever house collapsing down a slope..The owners were trying
to shore it up with wooden cribbing and just made it worse and ended up being trapped..


They just couldn't leave 'er.
 
2021-03-04 11:41:01 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: FTA:

For nearly 30 years, Alpha Structural has developed a powerful reputation as the number one foundation engineering and repair, landslide repair, earthquake, and structural rehabilitation contractor in the Los Angeles area

Alpha Structural must have really made it rain over at boredpanda for that knob-wash.


Nah. Bored Panda steals stuff from Imgur & Instagram. Alpha Structural is the only account I follow on IG because this spring we've gotta get under the house & shore up a couple of beams from where a previous owner doubled the size of the house & its sagging. Bad. Seeing what they do to fix a multitude of problems is informative since we've gotta dig out access to that side of the house & haven't seen the condition yet.

Alpha Structural has shown me what can be fixed, or whether there needs to be an "accidental fire" and new house.
 
2021-03-04 12:44:46 PM  

morg: [static.boredpanda.com image 700x933]
Nothing wrong with that. Looks like some of the piers my family has built.


Remind me not to walk on your piers then?   That middle is going to go if someone sneezes too hard.
 
2021-03-04 4:53:13 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: morg: [static.boredpanda.com image 700x933]
Nothing wrong with that. Looks like some of the piers my family has built.

Remind me not to walk on your piers then?   That middle is going to go if someone sneezes too hard.


Some people just underestimate the amount of pier pressure.
 
2021-03-04 4:58:43 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: morg: [static.boredpanda.com image 700x933]
Nothing wrong with that. Looks like some of the piers my family has built.

Remind me not to walk on your piers then?   That middle is going to go if someone sneezes too hard.


After several beers you'll have more of a sense of adventure. Piers aren't meant to be used sober.
 
2021-03-04 6:43:47 PM  

cyberspacedout: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: morg: [static.boredpanda.com image 700x933]
Nothing wrong with that. Looks like some of the piers my family has built.

Remind me not to walk on your piers then?   That middle is going to go if someone sneezes too hard.

Some people just underestimate the amount of pier pressure.


/<rolls a saving throw against dad jokes>
//<1!>
///son of a b..,
 
2021-03-04 6:46:30 PM  

morg: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: morg: [static.boredpanda.com image 700x933]
Nothing wrong with that. Looks like some of the piers my family has built.

Remind me not to walk on your piers then?   That middle is going to go if someone sneezes too hard.

After several beers you'll have more of a sense of adventure. Piers aren't meant to be used sober.


Heh, not so much, but I'm uniquely unstable without a bit of booze, and prone to screaming in frequencies only toddlers can achieve if I do fall.  It isn't fun for anyone involved.  Stuck on a cane and it hurts like a bastard if you go down?  You gain a whole new appreciation for proper bracing, structural integrity, and clear paths.
 
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