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2021-03-03 7:33:36 PM  
Damn, Disney is really cocking things up. They're letting a fraction of people into their theme parks, they're canceling their annual passes, their Marvel movies are pretty much done, even if there wasn't a pandemic. They have the Mandalorean and WandaVision, which are like nine episodes a year, Miramax is gone and I think Micky might be on the horse.
 
2021-03-03 9:01:13 PM  
Now release Black Widow on Disney Plus before we completely lose all interest.
 
2021-03-03 9:06:47 PM  

Mugato: Damn, Disney is really cocking things up. They're letting a fraction of people into their theme parks, they're canceling their annual passes, their Marvel movies are pretty much done, even if there wasn't a pandemic. They have the Mandalorean and WandaVision, which are like nine episodes a year, Miramax is gone and I think Micky might be on the horse.


How are the marvel movies done
 
2021-03-03 9:07:44 PM  
He should capitalize on the faux Dr. Seuss cancel culture outrage and remind people they can't watch Song of the South on Disney Plus.  Then, he should burn thousands of copies and sell them out of his car at the next Republican cult meeting.
 
2021-03-03 9:13:01 PM  
Fine with me. I generally hated going to theaters aside from opening day showings of giant tent pole blockbusters.
 
2021-03-03 9:13:09 PM  
The new Tom and Jerry movie made about $15M at the box office last weekend, despite the fact many theatres aren't open at all, and most of those that are are only at about 25% capacity.

There is always a certain segment of the population who'll want to see movies in the theater, who want that experience of going out.  The people who do things like watching the movie on HBO Max or renting it on Disney+ or the other alternative methods to release movies they've tried out were not going to the theatre in any case.
 
2021-03-03 9:16:20 PM  

xalres: Fine with me. I generally hated going to theaters aside from opening day showings of giant tent pole blockbusters.


The last time I was in a movie theater, it was for the original Independence Day back in the 90's. And I only went there because it was like 95 degrees outside, and the theater had air conditioning.
 
2021-03-03 9:22:15 PM  

MHudson: Mugato: Damn, Disney is really cocking things up. They're letting a fraction of people into their theme parks, they're canceling their annual passes, their Marvel movies are pretty much done, even if there wasn't a pandemic. They have the Mandalorean and WandaVision, which are like nine episodes a year, Miramax is gone and I think Micky might be on the horse.


How are the marvel movies done


After Endgame? Not being released is how they're doing.
 
2021-03-03 9:22:38 PM  
I hope he's wrong (and think he is).

I love going to the movies.
 
2021-03-03 9:24:16 PM  
I am not going to pay for Disney+, and then pay another 30 bucks for a new release rental.
 
2021-03-03 9:25:11 PM  

MHudson: Mugato: Damn, Disney is really cocking things up. They're letting a fraction of people into their theme parks, they're canceling their annual passes, their Marvel movies are pretty much done, even if there wasn't a pandemic. They have the Mandalorean and WandaVision, which are like nine episodes a year, Miramax is gone and I think Micky might be on the horse.

How are the marvel movies done


Very well. Most of them anyway.
 
2021-03-03 9:33:10 PM  

WhippingBoi: Now release Black Widow on Disney Plus before we completely lose all interest.


The fact that they still don't want to do that underlines the flaw in this guy's reasoning. We might see more smaller movies simultaneously made available for streaming the same day as theatrical release, but big budget movies they expect to make a box office killing with? Not a chance. Same day streaming means same day pirating, and that cuts into their precious overseas profits, especially in China.
 
2021-03-03 9:36:55 PM  

Mugato: Damn, Disney is really cocking things up. They're letting a fraction of people into their theme parks, they're canceling their annual passes, their Marvel movies are pretty much done, even if there wasn't a pandemic. They have the Mandalorean and WandaVision, which are like nine episodes a year, Miramax is gone and I think Micky might be on the horse.



This is such an inverse of reality I can't tell if it's parody. They're in the process of essentially dismantling Netflix.
 
2021-03-03 9:38:08 PM  

Glorious Golden Ass: Song of the South on Disney Plus.  Then, he should burn thousands of copies and sell them out of his car at the next Republican cult meeting.


I would like to subscribe to your newsletter to hear more on how to fleece the Qrubes.
 
2021-03-03 9:38:48 PM  

EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Now release Black Widow on Disney Plus before we completely lose all interest.

The fact that they still don't want to do that underlines the flaw in this guy's reasoning. We might see more smaller movies simultaneously made available for streaming the same day as theatrical release, but big budget movies they expect to make a box office killing with? Not a chance. Same day streaming means same day pirating, and that cuts into their precious overseas profits, especially in China.


The new replacement green screening they used in The Mandalorian has shown that big budget movies are about to become a hell of a lot cheaper.
 
2021-03-03 9:48:43 PM  

Mugato: MHudson: Mugato: Damn, Disney is really cocking things up. They're letting a fraction of people into their theme parks, they're canceling their annual passes, their Marvel movies are pretty much done, even if there wasn't a pandemic. They have the Mandalorean and WandaVision, which are like nine episodes a year, Miramax is gone and I think Micky might be on the horse.


How are the marvel movies done

After Endgame? Not being released is how they're doing.


You said they were done even if there wasn't a pandemic. That's very wrong. They were still set for their 2-3 movies per year schedule until the pandemic hit. They haven't stopped production at all, and they have half a dozen movies in the pipeline.
 
2021-03-03 10:09:30 PM  

jake_lex: The new Tom and Jerry movie made about $15M at the box office last weekend, despite the fact many theatres aren't open at all, and most of those that are are only at about 25% capacity.

There is always a certain segment of the population who'll want to see movies in the theater, who want that experience of going out.  The people who do things like watching the movie on HBO Max or renting it on Disney+ or the other alternative methods to release movies they've tried out were not going to the theatre in any case.


As long as teenagers want to get out of their parents' house for a few hours, theaters aren't going anywhere.
 
2021-03-03 10:20:20 PM  

demonfaerie: I am not going to pay for Disney+, and then pay another 30 bucks for a new release rental.


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2021-03-03 10:25:07 PM  
Disney+ is done?
I guess no one told Disney stock price.

$30 is high for a rental + the subscription fee.
I'm going to pay it for Black Widow because I've been waiting for it, but post that I can't see paying for a new release unless the cost comes way down.
 
2021-03-03 10:35:46 PM  

Bungles: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Now release Black Widow on Disney Plus before we completely lose all interest.

The fact that they still don't want to do that underlines the flaw in this guy's reasoning. We might see more smaller movies simultaneously made available for streaming the same day as theatrical release, but big budget movies they expect to make a box office killing with? Not a chance. Same day streaming means same day pirating, and that cuts into their precious overseas profits, especially in China.

The new replacement green screening they used in The Mandalorian has shown that big budget movies are about to become a hell of a lot cheaper.


Each episode of the Mandalorian had a budget of approximately $15 million, and none of them had the scope and detail of a blockbuster movie intended for IMAX. It's one of the more expensive shows, costing more than double what Game of Thrones did per average episode, but if they came up with a cost-saving technique that lets them make big movies for less in the future, that doesn't mean they still won't want the biggest payout they can collect.

Even if they only spent a few thousand on a movie, if they think it has a shot at making close to a billion in worldwide box office, they'll obviously want to shoot for that first before dumping the movie onto TV. They're not stupid and they like money.
 
2021-03-03 10:38:25 PM  

EdgeRunner: Bungles: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Now release Black Widow on Disney Plus before we completely lose all interest.

The fact that they still don't want to do that underlines the flaw in this guy's reasoning. We might see more smaller movies simultaneously made available for streaming the same day as theatrical release, but big budget movies they expect to make a box office killing with? Not a chance. Same day streaming means same day pirating, and that cuts into their precious overseas profits, especially in China.

The new replacement green screening they used in The Mandalorian has shown that big budget movies are about to become a hell of a lot cheaper.

Each episode of the Mandalorian had a budget of approximately $15 million, and none of them had the scope and detail of a blockbuster movie intended for IMAX. It's one of the more expensive shows, costing more than double what Game of Thrones did per average episode, but if they came up with a cost-saving technique that lets them make big movies for less in the future, that doesn't mean they still won't want the biggest payout they can collect.

Even if they only spent a few thousand on a movie, if they think it has a shot at making close to a billion in worldwide box office, they'll obviously want to shoot for that first before dumping the movie onto TV. They're not stupid and they like money.



A huge amount was the set-up costs. I strongly suspect the absolute flood of upcoming shows is in part due to that.
 
2021-03-03 10:51:01 PM  
No, no... if we just keep fighting progress, eventually we'll get people to go to tv theaters to watch tv shows.
 
2021-03-03 11:06:36 PM  

Birnone: demonfaerie: I am not going to pay for Disney+, and then pay another 30 bucks for a new release rental.

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Yeah, it's called being an adult.
 
2021-03-03 11:13:55 PM  

Bungles: The new replacement green screening they used in The Mandalorian has shown that big budget movies are about to become a hell of a lot cheaper.


I think you're vastly overstating any cost savings. There are areas where it affects cost and efficiency, but by and large the change will be limited, especially when considering the scope of the major film releases.
 
2021-03-03 11:15:07 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Birnone: demonfaerie: I am not going to pay for Disney+, and then pay another 30 bucks for a new release rental.

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Yeah, it's called being an adult.


No, it's called being a sucker. They're price gouging to make up for the loss of box office money. Once we're all vaccinated and feel comfortable going back to the theaters again, there's no way I'm paying three times average ticket price just for the privilege of staying at home and watching movies on a smaller screen.
 
2021-03-03 11:31:35 PM  

EdgeRunner: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Birnone: demonfaerie: I am not going to pay for Disney+, and then pay another 30 bucks for a new release rental.

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Yeah, it's called being an adult.

No, it's called being a sucker. They're price gouging to make up for the loss of box office money. Once we're all vaccinated and feel comfortable going back to the theaters again, there's no way I'm paying three times average ticket price just for the privilege of staying at home and watching movies on a smaller screen.


The target of my response was simply the idea of paying for movies in general.

But as for the $30 thing, I'm not gonna do it but it's not some outrageous figure. A family of four at the theater is likely costing $40 minimum in most areas. And with the rentals you get a 24-48 hr viewing period which is great for kids who like to watch shiat multiple times.

I'm looking forward to getting back to theaters, even with the kids. But I won't completely rule out a last minute movie night at home for $20-$30 since our setup is pretty solid.
 
2021-03-03 11:49:12 PM  
$20-30 bucks for a mere rental?  Keep wishing.
 
2021-03-03 11:53:21 PM  

Birnone: demonfaerie: I am not going to pay for Disney+, and then pay another 30 bucks for a new release rental.

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i pay for hbo because stealing sesame street is too farking hard
 
2021-03-04 12:43:46 AM  
Not sure if possible or the demand or interest for it is there at all, but I hope movie theaters start running older movies. They may get a better cut and concession prices could go down (they won't but the math could allow them to). I would absolutely be interested in seeing Ghostbusters or Alien on the big screen, since I was like three and nonexistent when both originally released. Ditto for drive-ins if offering good food and flicks. Newer media can be designed to be viewed in this new environment and we can watch older media in the way it was designed to be viewed.
 
2021-03-04 1:41:59 AM  
The experience of going to movie theaters has been largely ruined in the internet/smart phone age anyway. If you don't see movies opening weekend, guess what? Spoilers are on the internet before the weekend's even over. You have dipshiats in the theater taking video of spoilers during the movie (the illegality of which is addressed before the film even starts), and posting them on twitter. You have people in an otherwise dark theater illuminating the place with their own screen while they scroll on their damn phones. It takes you right out of the movie. It's farking distracting. If I pay to see a movie, I don't want to see some asshole 4 rows ahead scrolling through instagram. Not to mention going to a theater, only to have some dipshiat kid kick the seat behind you. I had an incident once where I went to a movie theater on a Monday in the middle of the afternoon on my day off, knowing almost nobody would be there, and two asshole kids came in, and sat directly behind me when literally every other seat was available, and started kicking my seat. Rather than end up a news story on FARK, I glared at the two little shiats as I moved down three rows, because fark them.

Going to the movies used to be great. But now it's a completely overrated experience. They have to include more and more gimmicks just to get people to go. IMAX, reclining seats, restaurant style service with servers for an additional premium price. It's becoming a farking joke. And if you want snacks, forget about it. The last time I asked for a bottled water at a theater it was $6. Who the fark do they think they are, Starbucks? fark that shiat.

If the theaters die, it'll be their own fault. They'll deserve it.
 
2021-03-04 2:13:21 AM  

Wobambo: Not sure if possible or the demand or interest for it is there at all, but I hope movie theaters start running older movies. They may get a better cut and concession prices could go down (they won't but the math could allow them to). I would absolutely be interested in seeing Ghostbusters or Alien on the big screen, since I was like three and nonexistent when both originally released. Ditto for drive-ins if offering good food and flicks. Newer media can be designed to be viewed in this new environment and we can watch older media in the way it was designed to be viewed.


Man, are you out of the loop. Theaters have been playing old movies for nearly a year now, because they had to fall back on classics when all the new ones kept getting postponed. Check your local listings, you might be in for a surprise.
 
2021-03-04 2:30:25 AM  
Make it legal to kill the person talking at the back of your head and kicking your chair.  Boom.  Movies are back.
 
2021-03-04 2:58:39 AM  

Birnone: demonfaerie: I am not going to pay for Disney+, and then pay another 30 bucks for a new release rental.

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I pay extra for porn movies.
 
2021-03-04 3:25:29 AM  
I like the home experience better. You can pause take a bathroom break and I got a movie theater popcorn machine in the living room and a supply of movie theater candy and drinks so yeah why go back?
 
2021-03-04 5:55:26 AM  

WhippingBoi: Now release Black Widow on Disney Plus before we completely lose all interest eight months ago.


FTFY, same meaning in different words.
 
2021-03-04 7:03:37 AM  
The only films I want to see in the cinema are Ghostbusters & Bond. After that I can wait.
 
2021-03-04 7:36:49 AM  

Wobambo: Not sure if possible or the demand or interest for it is there at all, but I hope movie theaters start running older movies. They may get a better cut and concession prices could go down (they won't but the math could allow them to). I would absolutely be interested in seeing Ghostbusters or Alien on the big screen, since I was like three and nonexistent when both originally released. Ditto for drive-ins if offering good food and flicks. Newer media can be designed to be viewed in this new environment and we can watch older media in the way it was designed to be viewed.


Boyz n the Hood, Bad Boys, Jurassic Park, the Lord of the Rings Series, Harry Potter Series, and more have played in my town in the last year.
 
2021-03-04 7:46:48 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: EdgeRunner: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Birnone: demonfaerie: I am not going to pay for Disney+, and then pay another 30 bucks for a new release rental.

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Yeah, it's called being an adult.

No, it's called being a sucker. They're price gouging to make up for the loss of box office money. Once we're all vaccinated and feel comfortable going back to the theaters again, there's no way I'm paying three times average ticket price just for the privilege of staying at home and watching movies on a smaller screen.

The target of my response was simply the idea of paying for movies in general.

But as for the $30 thing, I'm not gonna do it but it's not some outrageous figure. A family of four at the theater is likely costing $40 minimum in most areas. And with the rentals you get a 24-48 hr viewing period which is great for kids who like to watch shiat multiple times.

I'm looking forward to getting back to theaters, even with the kids. But I won't completely rule out a last minute movie night at home for $20-$30 since our setup is pretty solid.


... $40? Where do you live? Adult tickets, matinee, are 6-7 for the first show, midday around 13$, and prime time close to 20. You're looking at close to $60 just to walk in the door. Add in drinks, at 5-7 each, snacks at 5-10 each... and you've got a stew going.

I like going to theaters as a time out of the house, but I'm going to go far less when they reopen... Why? Well, I have a nice, quiet room for watching movies, and a huge TV to watch it on, since they were stupidly low prices around Black Friday. Add in a nice reclining chair... I can have my iced tea and chicken fingers, and not have to deal with people plague spreading or talking.
 
2021-03-04 7:51:23 AM  

Stantz: The only films I want to see in the cinema are Ghostbusters & Bond. After that I can wait.


Casino Royale wasn't bad but Daniel Craig is a boring Bond.
 
2021-03-04 8:02:46 AM  
They will offer both at home and in theater.  This will likely result in less theaters.
 
2021-03-04 8:19:23 AM  
At this point, I have several family members who I suspect will never go to a theater again.  They always considered it a nuisance.

Me, I will see DUNE in September if it kills me!  Luckily, I've been vaccinated, so... might be safe by then.
 
2021-03-04 8:34:30 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: The experience of going to movie theaters has been largely ruined in the internet/smart phone age anyway. If you don't see movies opening weekend, guess what? Spoilers are on the internet before the weekend's even over. You have dipshiats in the theater taking video of spoilers during the movie (the illegality of which is addressed before the film even starts), and posting them on twitter. You have people in an otherwise dark theater illuminating the place with their own screen while they scroll on their damn phones. It takes you right out of the movie. It's farking distracting. If I pay to see a movie, I don't want to see some asshole 4 rows ahead scrolling through instagram. Not to mention going to a theater, only to have some dipshiat kid kick the seat behind you. I had an incident once where I went to a movie theater on a Monday in the middle of the afternoon on my day off, knowing almost nobody would be there, and two asshole kids came in, and sat directly behind me when literally every other seat was available, and started kicking my seat. Rather than end up a news story on FARK, I glared at the two little shiats as I moved down three rows, because fark them.


Wow, where exactly do you live?  I have to say I never see anything like this where went before COVID. The worse I experienced was people talking over a trailer I was interested in. I don't even see cell phones in use. Of course, I actually concentrate on the movie so maybe I just shut that stuff out better.

So I'm looking forward to going back to a theater. The one nearest me opened up for a while late last summer and into the fall, for about 4 days a week. But I never went because not much was playing that I was interested in, and of course COVID. At some point they shut down again and hopefully that will eventually change.
 
2021-03-04 8:36:58 AM  
I'm really hoping to see 'The French Dispatch' in a movie theatre
- after a nice meal at a quaint little bistro
- a few months after I've had my covid vaccination.

One can dream.
 
2021-03-04 8:38:31 AM  

Mugato: Casino Royale wasn't bad but Daniel Craig is a boring Bond.


I dunno. He offers a smouldering intensity to the role not seen since... probably Brosnan in the second half of Goldeneye.
 
2021-03-04 8:39:18 AM  
Right now there's a lot of pent up to demand to get the hell out of the house and do something, anything.  Restaurants and movies are going to be the low hanging fruit, but we'll have to see what happens after the initial surge.  Yes, watching from home is far more convenient but frankly I'm really sick of sitting in my own living room at the moment.
 
2021-03-04 8:43:48 AM  

Persnickety: Right now there's a lot of pent up to demand to get the hell out of the house and do something, anything.  Restaurants and movies are going to be the low hanging fruit, but we'll have to see what happens after the initial surge.  Yes, watching from home is far more convenient but frankly I'm really sick of sitting in my own living room at the moment.


I find it amusing how people want to get out of the house to then go back inside to a dark room.

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I want to do things outside.
 
2021-03-04 8:57:19 AM  
Even though it'll probably disappoint, I really want to see Godzilla vs. Kong on the big screen.
 
2021-03-04 8:59:23 AM  

Stantz: Mugato: Casino Royale wasn't bad but Daniel Craig is a boring Bond. I dunno. He offers a smouldering intensity to the role not seen since... probably Brosnan in the second half of Goldeneye.


He also shot an unarmed girl in The World is Not Enough. But he also looked like he was having fun chugging vodka and hooking up with chicks. Yes, Die Another Day was terrible but it wasn't Brosnan's fault.
 
2021-03-04 9:49:02 AM  

bobug: ... $40? Where do you live? Adult tickets, matinee, are 6-7 for the first show, midday around 13$, and prime time close to 20. You're looking at close to $60 just to walk in the door. Add in drinks, at 5-7 each, snacks at 5-10 each... and you've got a stew going.


I live in the suburbs of a major east coast city.  I listed $40 as a minimum simply to illustrate that even the best case scenario in most areas would still be 130-200% of the at home cost.  Chances are it would be even higher than that.  I didn't include snacks because that varies wildly and you can bring your own to the theater if you want.

Pre-Covid I had two theaters I'd regularly go to.  The AMC was $8 and the Regal was $12, both newly renovated with the recliner seats and all that jazz.  And those prices were for opening night big premieres, Endgame, Star Wars, etc.  Taking a quick look at fandango receipts, we took the family to Toy Story 4 for $28 (matinee).

So yeah, the theaters will in almost every scenario be more expensive than the at home option.  Probably much more so.  But people do still like getting out of the house.  And the cost in many areas is not nearly as exorbitant as commonly thought.
 
2021-03-04 9:49:25 AM  
I'm just appreciative that TFA clarified in the picture caption which one was Bob Chapek and which one was Groot.

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Bob Chapek (left) and Groot (right)
Photo: Joshua Sudock/Disneyland Resort via Getty Images)
 
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