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2021-03-03 9:11:41 AM  
16 votes:
I'm 100% convinced that a 400-guest space hotel will be put in orbit in a mere 6 years AND that it will be commercially viable. This doesn't sound like an investor-fleecing operation at all.
 
2021-03-03 9:10:46 AM  
10 votes:
By 2027?  Not likely.
 
2021-03-03 10:36:45 AM  
3 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: Docking in the middle, the zero gravity part, is easy. Well, as easy as anything in space can be. But the escape shuttles are shown docked on the outer rim. They're essentially hanging from a ceiling, at full gravity, while spinning around. Trying to dock in that position would require reversing up to the dock at full earth gravity while also spinning around.


They're the *EMERGENCY* shuttles.  They don't *HAVE* to dock on a regular basis, they simply stay there until needed.

And you can dock them in place *BEFORE* you start the thing spinning.  If you have to replace them at some point, you secure everything in the station, stop it from spinning, dock the new lifeboats, then start it spinning again.  You wouldn't want to replace them when you have guests anyway, so you'd simply schedule a week where you do that sort of thing every few years.

And they're not hanging from a ceiling, they're hanging from a *FLOOR*.  You'd climb down into them.
 
2021-03-03 10:31:27 AM  
3 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: KarmicDisaster: Why does it need so many escape shuttles, is there a problem?


My thought too. That's 48 escape shuttles.


If you've got 400 guests, *PLUS* staff to serve them and maintain the station, say an extra 80 people, that's 10 people per escape shuttle.

That seems eminently reasonable to me.

These things would also be fairly bare-bones.  When you're building something like that for emergency single use, it doesn't have to be built to the same standards as something you're going to use over and over again.

Also, as an emergency thing, it only needs to keep people alive for a short amount of time.  If you're going around the Earth every 90 minutes, you can almost certainly be able to find an adequate landing area within, say, 3 orbits time, so having enough air for 10 people for 5 hours should be perfectly adequate.

Consumables like water and food wouldn't be necessary.  Just some lithium hydroxide containers to remove CO2, and a small bottle of oxygen.  Simple reaction control system, maybe even a cold gas one.  Solid fuel retro rocket.

Have the onboard computer know where it is, and where the best abort sites are, and have it do all it needs to do automatically.  Each employee would be trained to activate the lifeboat.  You get everyone in, strapped in, and you smash the big red button.  Craft separates from the hotel, goes a short distance away, decides what it's best options are for abort (or presents them to the crew), and then either goes there, or goes where it's told.  At the appropriate time, it orients itself and fires the retro rocket.  Then it reorients itself and reenters, then flies to the abort airport selected.

You could even program them to be cooperative so that you don't have 48 "lifeboats" all attempting to land at the same airport at the same time.

You could probably build something like that, because it's a one-time use thing and doesn't need to be re-used, and doesn't need any real contingency planning (it *IS* the contingency, after all!) for a few tens of millions of bucks a piece at the most.
 
2021-03-03 12:45:00 PM  
2 votes:
Watch out for plague zombies!
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2021-03-03 10:20:13 AM  
2 votes:
The Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster, made from human elements on Earth. Mostly Harmless.

Grab a beer glass and pack with ice (or don't, depending on how hard you want this to hit). 

One shot Blue Curacao
One shot citrus vodka
One dash of bitters
Fill the remainder of the glass with champagne. Lightly stir. 

It's stunningly delicious. And the equivalent of being hit in the back of the head with a blackjack.
 
2021-03-03 10:02:20 AM  
2 votes:
I hope it's designed to withstand an attack by Vermicious Knids.
 
2021-03-03 9:41:46 AM  
2 votes:
I'll take "Things that won't be built" for $400B Alex.
 
2021-03-03 8:54:00 AM  
2 votes:
Why do we even care what a tiny fraction of the population thinks?

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/​o​bservations/do-people-really-think-ear​th-might-be-flat/

Indeed, firm belief in a flat Earth was rare, with less than a 2 percent acceptance rate in all age groups.

I mean, other than feeling superior to people that.........


Oh, I get it now.
 
2021-03-03 11:40:48 PM  
1 vote:
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Private space station this decade? More like this double bubble concept from Bigelow Aerospace, which last I heard laid everyone off a year ago
 
2021-03-03 8:53:11 PM  
1 vote:
I kind of figured the first private space station would be for old wealthy people with health issues. They could live in a safe, low gravity environment.. Easy on the joints and bones, and the circulatory system as well. And even paraplegic people can move around easily.

If it cost a million bucks a week, well, what else are they going to spend money on? If you're a billionaire, you can afford 20 years in orbit!
 
2021-03-03 8:28:59 PM  
1 vote:

Slide10000: I think I read somewhere that it was going to be moon gravity not Earth.


The Space 1999 Eagle makes more sense now.
 
2021-03-03 11:12:33 AM  
1 vote:

Slide10000: Carter Pewterschmidt: markie_farkie: Carter Pewterschmidt: trying to dock one of those to a spinning space station would be utterly impossible.

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Docking in the middle, the zero gravity part, is easy. Well, as easy as anything in space can be. But the escape shuttles are shown docked on the outer rim. They're essentially hanging from a ceiling, at full gravity, while spinning around. Trying to dock in that position would require reversing up to the dock at full earth gravity while also spinning around.
Try this: Get a record player and glue a lego block at the outer edge or a LP record and set it playing at 33rpm. Then try to click another lego block onto it while it's revolving. That's still going to be a hundred times easier than docking on the outer rim of a spinning space station.

/And that image appears to be a Space 1999 Eagle docking onto the 2001 space station.

I think I read somewhere that it was going to be moon gravity not Earth.  But your points still stand.


Makes sense. Why holiday in space if you're going to be at normal earth gravity? You'd want to be able to leap around a bit. You'd need some gravity to be able to walk around and keep food on the table etc.
 
2021-03-03 9:47:07 AM  
1 vote:

Carter Pewterschmidt: trying to dock one of those to a spinning space station would be utterly impossible.


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2021-03-03 9:37:39 AM  
1 vote:

KarmicDisaster: Why does it need so many escape shuttles, is there a problem?


My thought too. That's 48 escape shuttles. That alone is billions of dollars worth. The amount of people on board wouldn't be that high, so maybe half a dozen slightly bigger escape shuttles would do.

And they can't be used for anything else because trying to dock one of those to a spinning space station would be utterly impossible.
You could have them dock in the centre, at zero gravity, and then slide down one of the arms to the escape position and 1g, but those drawings don't show that.
 
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