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(CRN)   Intel says ouch to the tune of $2.18 Billion. Notice of appeal to be filed in 3,2,1   (crn.com) divider line
    More: Amusing, Jury, Patent, Law, patent lawsuit, federal jury, Patent application, Patentability, VLSI Technology LLC  
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2021-03-03 1:51:30 AM  
6 votes:
Waco, Texas, is now the patent troll capital of the United States.
 
2021-03-02 9:24:09 PM  
5 votes:
I wonder if any jurors that knew the first thing about semiconductors were allowed to stay.
 
2021-03-03 12:50:28 PM  
3 votes:

Saiga410: Nothing on what the patents were.


U.S. Patent Nos. 7,523,373 and 7,725,759.
In simple terms the patents allowed for DRAM with different requirement voltages to be used with a given cpu.
 
2021-03-03 1:52:41 AM  
3 votes:
a federal jury in Waco, Texas,

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2021-03-03 7:25:37 AM  
2 votes:

Linux_Yes: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: SansNeural: Saiga410: Nothing on what the patents were.

NXP (formerly Philips) and Freescale (formerly Motorola) merged in 2015.  In 2019 they sold off a bunch of IP.  My dual guess is 1) they wanted to raise some cash and 2) they rounded up a bunch of their IP of lesser value and off-loaded it to the patent trolls.

What's weird to me is who bought it.  Article says "VLSI Technology LLC", ultimately owned by SoftBank.  Weird part is the former American company "VLSI Technology" was absorbed by Philips in 1999 and I'm pretty sure they still own the trademarks, unless they let them lapse.  Mildly confusing.

VLSI Technology Inc. no longer exists because of the reasons you outlined.   VLSI Technology LLC is a patent troll company incorporated in 2016.  This isn't their first rodeo by any means - they're a classic "We produce nothing, we just sit on patents and sue others" incorporation.


so??

lazy sit at home corporate Murcan stock owners produce nothing and live off the goodies that Labor puts into company stock.  Labor that these companies prefer to underpay often too.


nice try, though.


... that's the literal definition of a patent troll company - and exactly what they do.  "Nice try" doesn't really work with a series of facts.  I'm still trying to figure out how a company exploiting old patents isn't exploiting labor - there was certainly a fair amount required to come up with that tech initially.  The only difference is these people do it long after the fact.  Does this somehow excuse them and make them cool just because atm they're after someone else you dislike?

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2021-03-03 5:22:06 AM  
2 votes:
An Intel lawyer told jurors Monday that VLSI had made "outrageous" demands for financial damages over patents held by a company that makes no products and only makes money through patent litigation.

But if they own the patent then it is their right to seek damages when their IP is infringed upon.
 
2021-03-03 1:00:20 AM  
2 votes:
Nothing on what the patents were.
 
2021-03-03 11:47:02 AM  
1 vote:

H31N0US: Linux_Yes: H31N0US: Never been much of a mac fanboi but if Intel doesn't answer the M1, they're farked. I bought a Mac mini M1 and it's a challenge to force the fan to turn on.

AMD:  someone called??


They're on notice, too. ARM chips do so much work with so little power it's ridiculous


Both AMD and Intel have made ARM chips.

The choice of CISC is driven by the user requirement for Microsoft Windows.
 
2021-03-03 11:41:33 AM  
1 vote:
Owning patents (or other intellectual property) and licensing them (yet producing nothing in house) is a perfectly legitimate business model that doesn't deserve to be called a "patent troll".  Part of that business model is suing companies who won't pay for a license.

IMHO, a "patent troll" is only when a company (which may or may not make stuff in house) sues large numbers of small companies en masse with false or probably false patent claims with an aim to settle for less than the cost of trying the case in court.
 
2021-03-03 6:05:49 AM  
1 vote:
Never been much of a mac fanboi but if Intel doesn't answer the M1, they're farked. I bought a Mac mini M1 and it's a challenge to force the fan to turn on.
 
2021-03-03 1:21:56 AM  
1 vote:

Saiga410: Nothing on what the patents were.


NXP (formerly Philips) and Freescale (formerly Motorola) merged in 2015.  In 2019 they sold off a bunch of IP.  My dual guess is 1) they wanted to raise some cash and 2) they rounded up a bunch of their IP of lesser value and off-loaded it to the patent trolls.

What's weird to me is who bought it.  Article says "VLSI Technology LLC", ultimately owned by SoftBank.  Weird part is the former American company "VLSI Technology" was absorbed by Philips in 1999 and I'm pretty sure they still own the trademarks, unless they let them lapse.  Mildly confusing.
 
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