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(EurekAlert)   "If there is going to be anywhere in America where you would expect there wouldn't be racial disparities, it would be the NBA, but even here we find there is an advantage to being white for most." STEM goes strong in the Sports paint   (eurekalert.org) divider line
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275 clicks; posted to Sports » on 02 Mar 2021 at 9:08 AM (5 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-03-02 8:23:51 AM  
Not if you want to dunk.
 
2021-03-02 9:02:23 AM  
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2021-03-02 9:14:14 AM  
The article mentions that 70-75% of the players are black and yet they still face discrimination.  I'm not sure the author understands how discrimination works.
 
2021-03-02 9:18:08 AM  

8 inches: The article mentions that 70-75% of the players are black and yet they still face discrimination.  I'm not sure the author understands how discrimination works.


90% of South Africans were black.  That didn't help them.
 
2021-03-02 9:22:48 AM  

8 inches: The article mentions that 70-75% of the players are black and yet they still face discrimination.  I'm not sure the author understands how discrimination works.


I suspect it's more likely that you don't know how it works.
 
2021-03-02 9:27:01 AM  

8 inches: The article mentions that 70-75% of the players are black and yet they still face discrimination.  I'm not sure the author understands how discrimination works.


Golly gee, let's ask their bosses about this issue.
 
2021-03-02 9:36:46 AM  
75% black and 25% white.  I'd think the white career would be statistically longer because the vast majority are starters.  There is a bunch of bench players in the 75%.
 
2021-03-02 9:50:13 AM  

Gubbo: 8 inches: The article mentions that 70-75% of the players are black and yet they still face discrimination.  I'm not sure the author understands how discrimination works.

I suspect it's more likely that you don't know how it works.


Why?   Because I understand statistics?

Math is hard!
 
2021-03-02 9:59:22 AM  
The disparity 

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: 75% black and 25% white.  I'd think the white career would be statistically longer because the vast majority are starters.  There is a bunch of bench players in the 75%.


Excellent point!
Now go read the article and get back to us.
 
2021-03-02 10:05:46 AM  

mikaloyd: The disparity SirDigbyChickenCaesar: 75% black and 25% white.  I'd think the white career would be statistically longer because the vast majority are starters.  There is a bunch of bench players in the 75%.

Excellent point!
Now go read the article and get back to us.


Pfft i ain't got time for all that book readin.
 
2021-03-02 10:26:58 AM  
Whitey once owned 3 point land. Then they were evicted and now rest comfortably in their new home on the bench.
 
2021-03-02 10:50:46 AM  

8 inches: Gubbo: 8 inches: The article mentions that 70-75% of the players are black and yet they still face discrimination.  I'm not sure the author understands how discrimination works.

I suspect it's more likely that you don't know how it works.

Why?   Because I understand statistics?

Math is hard!


Google Apartheid, you dolt.
 
2021-03-02 10:54:42 AM  
https://theundefeated.com/features/wh​i​te-american-nba-players/

I'm not sure if this study breaks down the difference between American and international.  Also, it would be interesting to see a position breakdown.
 
2021-03-02 10:57:18 AM  

IlGreven: 8 inches: Gubbo: 8 inches: The article mentions that 70-75% of the players are black and yet they still face discrimination.  I'm not sure the author understands how discrimination works.

I suspect it's more likely that you don't know how it works.

Why?   Because I understand statistics?

Math is hard!

Google Apartheid, you dolt.


Google Whataboutism, you sweet summer child.
 
2021-03-02 11:36:20 AM  
The article is a tad confusing

It says there is no difference in career length for starters and then says the difference for bench players was small etc and then seems to extrapolate a bunch of data points about those role players etc

It also went back to the late 70s when there would have been a lot more white players in the league. I suspect it is those #s that skew these results. All control for off the court issues etc. If the differences are ever so slight as the article indicates, there are several factors that would not be race related that might account for this. Off the court issues etc if the numbers are as close as the article suggests. That isnt to say there isnt bias etc but if its as slight as the authors seem to indicate
 
2021-03-02 12:04:31 PM  
"For example, take the defensive win shares statistic, which measures the ability to prevent opposing teams from scoring. The researchers compared career length for white and Black players who were identical on this statistic, at the 50th percentile.
The proportion of white players at this level who left the league by their fifth season was 26%, significantly lower than the 33% of Black players who performed just as well but were no longer in the league after five years."

And I thought sabermetrics had some bullshiate statistical analysis and conclusions...

The NBA is discriminatory towards bench players, but not starters or role players, and equally by white and black head coaches.  wut?

"We need more research" and grant money.  There we go.  Get clicks, get grant money, stay in school.
 
2021-03-02 12:11:23 PM  
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2021-03-02 12:56:37 PM  
I know articles are sometines counterintuitive to actual data, but just spitballing here:
The data covers 27 years: 1979-80 through 2016-17
It cover 2600 players who qualify as bench players with equivalent stats - let's just make that 100 players per year and pretend the stats they measure players with here didn't just start getting used in the past 10 years.
In a given year of 75:25 b:w ratio, 24 to 25 of 75 black players careers end instead if 19 to 20, while 6 to 7 of 25 white players careers end instead of 8 to 9.
Two additional white bench players in the NBA need to be fired each year to make things right.

/slow jerk
 
2021-03-02 1:44:52 PM  
For all bench players on any team, it all comes down to the one thing NOT addressed in the study: MONEY

White bench players, on average, are CHEAPER than black bench players.

Every team tries to underspend as much as they can on their bench, to free up $$$ to pay superstars.
Superstars sell tickets and get your team in the playoffs, which also sells tickets.
 
2021-03-02 8:46:09 PM  

berniex: For all bench players on any team, it all comes down to the one thing NOT addressed in the study: MONEY

White bench players, on average, are CHEAPER than black bench players.

Every team tries to underspend as much as they can on their bench, to free up $$$ to pay superstars.
Superstars sell tickets and get your team in the playoffs, which also sells tickets.


This is why sociology shouldn't try to explain economics.
 
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