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(Chron)   "Surge in demand" for tiny silicon chips may cause problems for auto manufacturers, just as the 3rd "vaccine" gets approved by the FDA. WAKE UP SHEEPLE   (chron.com) divider line
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2021-03-02 7:58:54 AM  
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was surge ever in demand?
 
2021-03-02 8:08:59 AM  
Wow. It makes perfect sense! No gpu silicon because it's gotta go in the vaccines!
 
2021-03-02 8:57:57 AM  

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was surge ever in demand?


Sure, in 1997.

I had some a few years ago and...not great.
 
2021-03-02 9:05:01 AM  
Headline isn't amusing, funny, or clever. We shouldn't encourage the people who actually do believe this kind of nutbaggery.
 
2021-03-02 9:09:35 AM  

Gubbo: Headline isn't amusing, funny, or clever. We shouldn't encourage the people who actually do believe this kind of nutbaggery.


It'll get clicks and comments.  That's all that matters.
 
2021-03-02 9:46:26 AM  
Yeah, this has been a year of hell for manufacturing.  Every factory in the 21st century relies on 25 other factories to make their products, and the rapid shifts in supply lines brought on by the pandemic, hurricanes and recently the cold snap in Texas have had my workers on mandatory overtime for a long time now... and we're not even doing great production because we keep running out of materials or supplies of one sort or another.

Then there's the labor shortages, every other factory is desperate for workers and there's a limited pool of people willing and able to work in a modern factory.  Yes we have upped starting pay substantially twice and are in the process of upping it across the board again.

Meanwhile, customers are ordering some of our products like crazy because they're stuck at home.
 
2021-03-02 10:08:22 AM  
I just want a new video card and the RTX 3000 line is pretty much vaporware.
 
2021-03-02 10:39:29 AM  

Gubbo: Headline isn't amusing, funny, or clever. We shouldn't encourage the people who actually do believe this kind of nutbaggery.


Its Fark. Lies, deception and hate are required for views. Facts, honesty and truth are disposable.
 
2021-03-02 10:55:17 AM  

Gubbo: Headline isn't amusing, funny, or clever. We shouldn't encourage the people who actually do believe this kind of nutbaggery.


I'm pretty sure this is mocking the nutbaggery. Mocking an idea are ridiculous is actually one of the more effective ways to kill the groups trying to circulate it... assuming they have not achieved a self supporting level. It works by effectively making them cut off from non believers on the basis that their idea is idiotic, and forces them to address the issue head on as people they respect have no time for their nonsense. However once that group get large enough they don't need people outside the group to respect them then it just tends to isolate and reinforce the idea.

Unfortunately I think these groups are self sustaining now which means there isn't much that can help break them free as they've effectively created their own reality. That said, mocking can still be an effective way at deterring new members from signing up because they aren't yet reliant on the group for support and it's easier to assess crazy ideas when others you associate with mock it and dismiss it out of hand as the stupidity it is.
 
2021-03-02 12:54:35 PM  

electricjebus: Yeah, this has been a year of hell for manufacturing.  Every factory in the 21st century relies on 25 other factories to make their products, and the rapid shifts in supply lines brought on by the pandemic, hurricanes and recently the cold snap in Texas have had my workers on mandatory overtime for a long time now... and we're not even doing great production because we keep running out of materials or supplies of one sort or another.

Then there's the labor shortages, every other factory is desperate for workers and there's a limited pool of people willing and able to work in a modern factory.  Yes we have upped starting pay substantially twice and are in the process of upping it across the board again.

Meanwhile, customers are ordering some of our products like crazy because they're stuck at home.


I don't buy the whole "can't find workers" bit.  The fact that you supposedly have already increased wages several times but say "there's a limited pool of people willing and able to work in a modern factory" make me think working conditions might be absolutely horrible.  Try improving those.

/and paying more works too
 
2021-03-02 1:10:43 PM  

Gubbo: Headline isn't amusing, funny, or clever. We shouldn't encourage the people who actually do believe this kind of nutbaggery.


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2021-03-02 2:20:22 PM  
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2021-03-02 4:16:57 PM  

Geotpf: electricjebus: Yeah, this has been a year of hell for manufacturing.  Every factory in the 21st century relies on 25 other factories to make their products, and the rapid shifts in supply lines brought on by the pandemic, hurricanes and recently the cold snap in Texas have had my workers on mandatory overtime for a long time now... and we're not even doing great production because we keep running out of materials or supplies of one sort or another.

Then there's the labor shortages, every other factory is desperate for workers and there's a limited pool of people willing and able to work in a modern factory.  Yes we have upped starting pay substantially twice and are in the process of upping it across the board again.

Meanwhile, customers are ordering some of our products like crazy because they're stuck at home.

I don't buy the whole "can't find workers" bit.  The fact that you supposedly have already increased wages several times but say "there's a limited pool of people willing and able to work in a modern factory" make me think working conditions might be absolutely horrible.  Try improving those.

/and paying more works too


Yeah...I know a few people who've gone through the selection process of a local factory job.  It's a grueling  array of 'how fast can you do this' tasks that basically only the most inhuman speed could accomplish.  Reduce your productivity expectations down a few notches below Marvel mutant and robot.
 
2021-03-02 4:43:39 PM  
dam you Soros
 
2021-03-02 7:38:42 PM  

Geotpf: electricjebus: Yeah, this has been a year of hell for manufacturing.  Every factory in the 21st century relies on 25 other factories to make their products, and the rapid shifts in supply lines brought on by the pandemic, hurricanes and recently the cold snap in Texas have had my workers on mandatory overtime for a long time now... and we're not even doing great production because we keep running out of materials or supplies of one sort or another.

Then there's the labor shortages, every other factory is desperate for workers and there's a limited pool of people willing and able to work in a modern factory.  Yes we have upped starting pay substantially twice and are in the process of upping it across the board again.

Meanwhile, customers are ordering some of our products like crazy because they're stuck at home.

I don't buy the whole "can't find workers" bit.  The fact that you supposedly have already increased wages several times but say "there's a limited pool of people willing and able to work in a modern factory" make me think working conditions might be absolutely horrible.  Try improving those.

/and paying more works too


Or actually equip your "modern" factory with modern equipment. Robots can be programmed by consultants and maintained by small on-site crew. You'd still have to pay those people, though, at a much higher individual rate than assemblers but you'd make it back in volume.
 
2021-03-03 8:45:11 AM  

Geotpf: I don't buy the whole "can't find workers" bit.  The fact that you supposedly have already increased wages several times but say "there's a limited pool of people willing and able to work in a modern factory" make me think working conditions might be absolutely horrible.  Try improving those.

/and paying more works too


Working conditions aren't that bad, and I've actually got a very low turnover rate on my shift, I'm just not getting people through the door to begin with.  It's been 7 weeks now since I got a single new worker.  Granted, it's always harder to get people on the graveyard shift.

The thing you have to remember is that a lot of factories are in rural places.  My factory isn't that far from St. Louis, but people in St. Louis wouldn't even think to look for a factory job in my town, even though the pay justifies the 1/2 hour drive.  It did for me years ago, but I only knew about the job because I worked at the company's warehouse in the county.

We're not drawing from an infinite labor pool and we're not the only factory in town that's seen massive demand for our products during this pandemic.
 
2021-03-03 9:10:54 AM  

darkman2000: Yeah...I know a few people who've gone through the selection process of a local factory job.  It's a grueling  array of 'how fast can you do this' tasks that basically only the most inhuman speed could accomplish.  Reduce your productivity expectations down a few notches below Marvel mutant and robot.


I've got a 5' tall 65+ year old lady working for me.  I can't ask her exactly how old she is, that'd be rude.  I start workers off in the easiest on line job I have that literally requires them to put a 40 pound object in a box and put that box on a skid every 2+ minutes, then I ease them into more and more complicated tasks.

If they can't do that I move them to an offline job with lower weight requirements and I don't particularly care about productivity nearly as much because it's not slowing any lines down and any productivity is better than none, so long as they stay busy they'll eventually get faster.

I have yet to fire a worker for not being fast enough or strong enough to do a job.

Granted, there are other supervisors who have a tendency to throw brand new workers at the worst jobs in the factory without much help, and I am aware that does happen in factories.  It happened to me when I was a new worker.

There is a mentality to factory work though, the trick is muscle memory.  90% of the job is doing the exact same motions over and over.  The only reason the workers can't be replaced with machines is the 10% that actually requires them to think.  Some people just aren't capable of that.  They're either thinking about everything they're doing, which is slowing them down, or they're not using their minds that 10% of the time they really have to.

/Side note, the bodybuilders never make it.  It's the wiry ones that are telling their trainers to get out of their way by first break.
 
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