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2021-03-01 10:04:03 PM  
As a Sixers fan, I am enjoying the season of Joel.


That being said, we never had a need for sports, and I hope you realize that we have grossly overpaid athletes and come to deify some that, although good on the field with sportsballs, are shiatty humans who should be ignored otherwise.

This has just accelerated that recognition, but it could likely go away once dollar beer buckets are back in stadiums.
 
2021-03-01 10:08:47 PM  
Jemele Hill soured on sports while at ESPN. and this sounds like some sour grapes.
 
2021-03-01 10:12:05 PM  
I need sports. More doing them than watching them, but watching them is nice too.
 
2021-03-01 10:36:23 PM  
Suckers. I've been injecting melted hockey pucks into my arms since the beginning of the pandemic.
 
2021-03-01 10:58:21 PM  
A lot of people watch sports so that they have something to talk about with coworkers or as a reason to hang with friends and drink. Most people don't even seem to really watch sports as well, every time I've seen a game most people where staring at their phone the entire time.
 
2021-03-02 5:25:40 AM  
Sports and related competitions are ways for humans to simulate warfare against an "other" and get that primitive desire off our chests.

It's much better than actual warfare.
 
2021-03-02 5:44:31 AM  
Of course. Why would we need a distraction and a touchstone with fellow humans when we have the pit of eternal despair to stare into?
 
2021-03-02 6:16:55 AM  
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2021-03-02 6:31:07 AM  
Detroit and Cleveland fans:   way ahead of ya
 
2021-03-02 7:04:54 AM  
Subby:

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2021-03-02 7:05:47 AM  
The highest rated Super Bowls aren't predicated on intriguing matchups.  Look at the ratings history.  They're based on media market size and/or fan base size.  KC vs Tampa Bay was always going to have a ratings struggle.
 
2021-03-02 7:13:56 AM  

Rapmaster2000: The highest rated Super Bowls aren't predicated on intriguing matchups.  Look at the ratings history.  They're based on media market size and/or fan base size.  KC vs Tampa Bay was always going to have a ratings struggle.


And the shiatty game didn't help, either.
 
2021-03-02 7:14:56 AM  
No one needs to be anywhere breathing heavy in close proximity to other people during a global pandemic.

People that do that are putting many more at risk because people watching are not going to take the virus seriously if their "heroes" don't.

You don't need sports. You need to take a global pandemic seriously.
 
2021-03-02 7:26:26 AM  

vudukungfu: No one needs to be anywhere breathing heavy in close proximity to other people during a global pandemic.


Well, this is going to be awkward, but your mother and I need to talk to you....
 
2021-03-02 7:28:28 AM  
But there certainly are things we do need more of. More reality tv, b-list celebs hosting game shows and late night comedy hacks. Oh, more social media too.

Food, shelter, water. That's all that's really needed. No jewelry stores, no hollywood movies, no high end electronics. None of it's necessary. Not even horse racing. Seriously, fark horse racing.
 
2021-03-02 7:38:04 AM  
Sports is as needed as TV, movies, art, etc. It's just another form of entertainment.
 
2021-03-02 7:39:43 AM  
I'm sure someone could write a compelling argument about anything -

"The pandemic revealed that we have no need for museums"

"The pandemic revealed that we have no need for live theater"

etc...
 
2021-03-02 7:42:07 AM  

The_Sponge: Rapmaster2000: The highest rated Super Bowls aren't predicated on intriguing matchups.  Look at the ratings history.  They're based on media market size and/or fan base size.  KC vs Tampa Bay was always going to have a ratings struggle.

And the shiatty game didn't help, either.


Agreed.  And that was a shiatty game.  It reminded me of those Denver Super Bowls from back in the day.
 
2021-03-02 8:02:28 AM  
Correct, I never even knew they weren't there.
 
2021-03-02 8:29:13 AM  

Anenu: A lot of people watch sports so that they have something to talk about with coworkers or as a reason to hang with friends and drink. Most people don't even seem to really watch sports as well, every time I've seen a game most people where staring at their phone the entire time.


Fark nfl game threads get 2000+ comments. But 99% of the comments are "tie" gifs , "jake" counters, and incorrect complaints about officiating f that shows the person doesn't even understand the rules to begin with. Almost nobody there discusses play calls, x/o strategy, play design, coaching errors , what made play execution work, nuances of match up exploits, etc.  It's pathetic.
 
2021-03-02 8:30:08 AM  

Dr.Fey: I'm sure someone could write a compelling argument about anything -

"The pandemic revealed that we have no need for museums"

"The pandemic revealed that we have no need for live theater"

etc...


"Pandemic revealed we don't need any human interaction outside our immediate family."
 
2021-03-02 8:31:20 AM  

SuperChuck: Sports is as needed as TV, movies, art, etc. It's just another form of entertainment.


I think the argument here is not that it isn't entertainment, it is just a question of "does it need to be a multi-billion dollar form of entertainment?"

No, no it does not.  We don't need $100M players and we don't need all the associated trappings of training and PR and 24/7 coverage of every small detail.  Football and Baseball don't need ginormous publicly funded stadiums.

If all sports ended up looking like soccer does in the US (lower paid players, smaller stadiums, etc...), I think that's about the level of investment they'd need to remain entertaining, but not be all encompassing.

Will any of this happen?  It all depends on the advertisers.  If they pull out due to people not watching as much, then the house of cards will fall.  Otherwise nothing will change.
 
2021-03-02 8:36:19 AM  

Badmoodman: Jemele Hill soured on sports while at ESPN. and this sounds like some sour grapes.


Well, I mean she sucked at talking sports...
 
2021-03-02 8:52:33 AM  
Subby, by your logic, the pandemic has also "proven" that you can live without toilet toilet paper and hanging out with frienjds and without your grandma too.
 
2021-03-02 9:28:20 AM  
Eh, I am not hardcore into sportsball any more, but sports most assuredly are something people need.  millions of people use football sunday as a means to get together & break bread with their friends, shared experience & love of something together.

The idea that we don't need something like that is silly.  Concerts are my thing, do i think we need concerts? hell yes.  Its a shared, exciting experience for like minded people to go enjoy with each other.
 
2021-03-02 10:05:21 AM  
I am measuring the passage of time by counting the hours between Bruins games. I need sports!

The recent Lake Tahoe game (Sunday version) was the highest rated outdoor game in their history, if that helps.
 
2021-03-02 10:05:43 AM  

Rapmaster2000: The highest rated Super Bowls aren't predicated on intriguing matchups.  Look at the ratings history.  They're based on media market size and/or fan base size.  KC vs Tampa Bay was always going to have a ratings struggle.


Yeah i love how they cited the kentucky derby as evidence.

Uhh, the race was moved until month's later than it normally is, AFTER all the other 2 races, and nobody was having kentucky derby parties and the environment on the track wasn't the same to watch on tv if you are into big hats or whatever.  It would have been an asterisk year even if someone did win the triple crown.
 
2021-03-02 11:03:59 AM  

Motogp69: Correct, I never even knew they weren't there.


Neat.
 
2021-03-02 11:59:50 AM  

SVC_conservative: As a Sixers fan, I am enjoying the season of Joel.


That being said, we never had a need for sports, and I hope you realize that we have grossly overpaid athletes and come to deify some that, although good on the field with sportsballs, are shiatty humans who should be ignored otherwise.


I hope you realize that you're just asking for owners to profit even more.  The people who drive the industry making a lot of money isn't a problem.  It's free entertainment for most of us, and they get to become wealthy because enough people want to watch them entertain us.  There is, quite literally, nothing wrong with any of that.

An employee is worth whatever someone is willing to pay them.  No more, no less.
 
2021-03-02 1:42:49 PM  

Motogp69: Correct, I never even knew they weren't there.


I like how you clicked on the Sports tab, just to find a story where you could tell everybody you don't watch sports.  I'll never understand people like you.  Nobody cares.
 
2021-03-02 2:40:51 PM  

Leader O'Cola: Anenu: A lot of people watch sports so that they have something to talk about with coworkers or as a reason to hang with friends and drink. Most people don't even seem to really watch sports as well, every time I've seen a game most people where staring at their phone the entire time.

Fark nfl game threads get 2000+ comments. But 99% of the comments are "tie" gifs , "jake" counters, and incorrect complaints about officiating f that shows the person doesn't even understand the rules to begin with. Almost nobody there discusses play calls, x/o strategy, play design, coaching errors , what made play execution work, nuances of match up exploits, etc.  It's pathetic.


The Fark NFL threads move at such a clip that by the time you make a genuine x/o post it's irrelevant. I love the threads and think of them as a digital version of watching a game in the bar. But it's not where I go for in-depth analysis. It's just good fun.
 
2021-03-02 3:08:26 PM  

phedex: Eh, I am not hardcore into sportsball any more, but sports most assuredly are something people need.  millions of people use football sunday as a means to get together & break bread with their friends, shared experience & love of something together.

The idea that we don't need something like that is silly.  Concerts are my thing, do i think we need concerts? hell yes.  Its a shared, exciting experience for like minded people to go enjoy with each other.


It's not so much that there is no need for sports at all.  It's that the pandemic likely has led to fewer people needing sports in their lives.  A lot of people have used their forced free time to discover new hobbies, new forms of entertainment (streaming media has boomed), even that they do, in fact, still have families that they love and enjoy being with.  Some of those people won't be returning to sports ever.

Sure, 90% of sports fans might still be there, but that would mean that 10% are not, and in an industry where money is measured in billions, that's very significant.

So the seeming premise of TFA, which is that sports is dead, is incorrect.  But it will be different, because a lot of entertainment money has left the building for new pastures.
 
2021-03-02 5:34:39 PM  
20 years ago, once I turned off the sound during games to spare the nerves of our over-anxious dog, it turned out I didn't really need a sports-fix either. During the winter, I watch maybe 1 basketball game a month. And, no football or baseball at all.
 
2021-03-02 11:26:06 PM  

LL316: An employee is worth whatever someone is willing to pay them.  No more, no less.


Untrue, especially in salary-capped sports.

/they're more likely to be underpaid given the power imbalance between management and labor
//The rest, I agree with
 
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