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2021-03-01 9:54:58 PM  
Who says something like that, out loud?
 
2021-03-01 10:12:23 PM  

Lambskincoat: Who says something like that, out loud?


Most people on Fox, Newsmax, OANN, and your local suburban community Facebook page.
 
2021-03-01 10:20:07 PM  
Seems to me if that's a real, legitimate concern that the solution would be to increase funding to schools. Every child benefits, won't you think of the children?

//No not like that, perv
 
2021-03-01 10:20:39 PM  
Racist
 
2021-03-01 10:27:19 PM  

vudukungfu: Racist


He's severely brain damaged just like all their viewers. Racist brain damage.
 
2021-03-02 2:57:33 AM  
Honey... I think the baby ate all our coal.
 
2021-03-02 4:47:02 AM  
And Brian Kilmeade is taking oxygen away from from sentient beings.
 
2021-03-02 5:02:40 AM  

Lambskincoat: Who says something like that, out loud?


Almost no one.  Because it's usually, "Those little <slurs> that don't speak English" etc.  They aren't children, they're boogeymen ritualized into being by conservatives.  Children?  Well no one wants to harm them unless they're a psycho. <Slurs> of whatever sort has been pushed into people's heads?  Well that's different, they're <slurs>, not young humans.  Fark 'em.

/to be clear, not advocating this viewpoint - because even I'm not THAT stupid
//but a lot of people do
///and they don't even know they've been manipulated into doing it
 
2021-03-02 5:04:05 AM  
Headline could also say:  Fox Host, Brian Kilmeade, dehumanizes children so viewers don't feel sympathy when they are put in cages.
 
2021-03-02 5:05:56 AM  
I love that the Trump presidency exposed the ugly, racist, rotten core that always existed within the GOP/conservatives.

Men like Brian would say crap like this in private. Not anymore.
 
2021-03-02 5:08:19 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Lambskincoat: Who says something like that, out loud?

Almost no one.  Because it's usually, "Those little <slurs> that don't speak English" etc.  They aren't children, they're boogeymen ritualized into being by conservatives.  Children?  Well no one wants to harm them unless they're a psycho. <Slurs> of whatever sort has been pushed into people's heads?  Well that's different, they're <slurs>, not young humans.  Fark 'em.

/to be clear, not advocating this viewpoint - because even I'm not THAT stupid
//but a lot of people do
///and they don't even know they've been manipulated into doing it


This is right.

Dehumanizing victims makes witnesses and compatriots to crimes and discrimination accept what they are seeing and whether it is wrong.
 
2021-03-02 5:09:19 AM  
Why are they screeching and yelling??

The concerns are bullshiat. The only real concern with unaccompanied minors is who is going to take care of them. Sure school over crowding is an issue, so fund the damn schools better. Taking care of children is the bigger issue. Ok, so they are being trafficked- why is sending them back over the border the answer dickwad? Why isn't the answer saving them from being trafficked?
 
2021-03-02 5:09:20 AM  
'The resources' he's talking about also come from the previous generation of non-English speaking kids growing up, getting opportunities, and paying taxes.

But Mr Shortterm thinking over here doesn't think about that.
 
2021-03-02 5:11:58 AM  
Why are you letting the children of Australians brainwash your population? You know it was a prison colony, right?
 
2021-03-02 5:12:51 AM  
¿Has tratado hablar con ellos en español?

/not sure if my grammar is 100% correct, but at least I'm trying!
//Alternativemente we could just teach them English as a 2nd language
///Then you wouldn't have that whole language barrier thing to write them off with.
 
2021-03-02 5:14:18 AM  
Babies?
 
2021-03-02 5:14:48 AM  

vudukungfu: Racist


Yes, but so is their audience.  Fox News and their GOP buddies didn't invent racism.  They just invented new ways to profit from it.  At the end of the day the boardroom is only concerned with how much money they can fleece from their loyal rubes.  The product being sold is irrelevant; only the price tag on it matters.

1st Rule of Capitalism: Wherever there is a demand, someone will create a supply.

Racists wanted their own TV show that pandered to them and they got one.  If Murdoch didn't do it someone else would have.  Thus the only real way to shut down these vile entities is to educate people at a young age as to the many failures of racism and make it stick.  Eliminate the demand and the suppliers will disappear on their own.
 
2021-03-02 5:16:00 AM  
And as a speaker of several languages and a teacher, a non-English speaking child is not in any way, with any probability (b/c kids are language sponges) a forever status.

The correct response is "I see we have a non-English speaking child in a predominantly English speaking country." "Suppose we should teach him English, Tom." "Sounds good."

I was a non-_______ speaking person before I hired teachers and learned the language in question.
 
2021-03-02 5:25:11 AM  
Americans are dumb about languages. You can learn them, perhaps not perfectly or quickly (as an adult you'll have an accent and vocabulary gaps) , but functionally and practically enough to have a normal conversation for like an hour or two and fill out paperwork. Literally anyone can do it.

If you're not too dumb to know the concepts of "going," "having," "wanting," "seeing," "feeling," "hearing," "understanding,@ and some basic nouns and pronouns along with numbers and "how much/many" you're well on your way to bring everyday functional in a foreign language.
 
2021-03-02 5:28:33 AM  

Lambskincoat: Who says something like that, out loud?


Reich wing racists in the Trump era.

He demonstrated that with a suitably compliant media, there is no penalty for any level of open racism short of literally shouting the N word.
 
2021-03-02 5:31:44 AM  
I have kids?
 
2021-03-02 5:32:03 AM  
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2021-03-02 5:35:51 AM  

shpritz: Why are you letting the children of Australians brainwash your population? You know it was a prison colony, right?


If I were given the power to choose ten people to Thanos-snap out of existence to maximally improve the world, Rupert Murdoch would be on it.
 
2021-03-02 5:39:18 AM  

no1curr: Seems to me if that's a real, legitimate concern that the solution would be to increase funding to schools.


In theory, yes.
But Brian is talking about schools in "working class communities" so you can't increase funding without some of the money going to, you know, them.

/ racism watchdog barking
 
2021-03-02 5:41:16 AM  
And in today's episode of Deep Thoughts with Brian Kilmeade...

Look, these kids can't help the fact that they're parasites who are draining our scarce resources. It's just what they are. You know, like a newly turned vampire. It's not the newly turned vampire's fault, but Van Helsing is still going to stake them in the heart. Ok, maybe that's not the best metaphor. But the point is they have to go. Is that such a bad thing?

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2021-03-02 5:43:35 AM  

bacchanalias and consequences: Americans are dumb about languages. You can learn them, perhaps not perfectly or quickly (as an adult you'll have an accent and vocabulary gaps) , but functionally and practically enough to have a normal conversation for like an hour or two and fill out paperwork. Literally anyone can do it.

If you're not too dumb to know the concepts of "going," "having," "wanting," "seeing," "feeling," "hearing," "understanding,@ and some basic nouns and pronouns along with numbers and "how much/many" you're well on your way to bring everyday functional in a foreign language.


To be fair, English can be a tough language to learn, with its seemingly-infinite exceptions, irregular inflections, and even rare phonemes like ð and θ.
 
2021-03-02 5:45:48 AM  
Wonder why the brown haired guy whose not Steve Doocy doesn't consider hiring more teacher to tend with all these "non-English speakers" flooding the school as job creation?

Wanna know a great way the get a leg up at a lot of businesses? Know how to speak Spanish.....or any second language really.
 
2021-03-02 5:51:46 AM  

aagrajag: bacchanalias and consequences: Americans are dumb about languages. You can learn them, perhaps not perfectly or quickly (as an adult you'll have an accent and vocabulary gaps) , but functionally and practically enough to have a normal conversation for like an hour or two and fill out paperwork. Literally anyone can do it.

If you're not too dumb to know the concepts of "going," "having," "wanting," "seeing," "feeling," "hearing," "understanding,@ and some basic nouns and pronouns along with numbers and "how much/many" you're well on your way to bring everyday functional in a foreign language.

To be fair, English can be a tough language to learn, with its seemingly-infinite exceptions, irregular inflections, and even rare phonemes like ð and θ.


All languages are hard to learn and it also depends on where you're starting from. If you speak German, Spanish, or French learning English is much easier than if you speak Thai, Japanese, or Vietnamese. It has to do with the Latinate/Germanic/Greek root words and phonology. Meanwhile if you speak Vietnamese, Chinese is much easier to learn as they share a tonal spectrum and certain root words, even if the alphabet is totally different. Meanwhile if you speak Japanese, you already know much of the Chinese alphabet via Kanji.
 
2021-03-02 6:01:40 AM  

bacchanalias and consequences: aagrajag: bacchanalias and consequences: Americans are dumb about languages. You can learn them, perhaps not perfectly or quickly (as an adult you'll have an accent and vocabulary gaps) , but functionally and practically enough to have a normal conversation for like an hour or two and fill out paperwork. Literally anyone can do it.

If you're not too dumb to know the concepts of "going," "having," "wanting," "seeing," "feeling," "hearing," "understanding,@ and some basic nouns and pronouns along with numbers and "how much/many" you're well on your way to bring everyday functional in a foreign language.

To be fair, English can be a tough language to learn, with its seemingly-infinite exceptions, irregular inflections, and even rare phonemes like ð and θ.

All languages are hard to learn and it also depends on where you're starting from. If you speak German, Spanish, or French learning English is much easier than if you speak Thai, Japanese, or Vietnamese. It has to do with the Latinate/Germanic/Greek root words and phonology. Meanwhile if you speak Vietnamese, Chinese is much easier to learn as they share a tonal spectrum and certain root words, even if the alphabet is totally different. Meanwhile if you speak Japanese, you already know much of the Chinese alphabet via Kanji.


Generally yes, but then what's Scotland's excuse?

/I'd imagine it's "Go fark yerself!"
//it usually is
///seeing as how I'd rather live, I don't argue
 
2021-03-02 6:02:12 AM  

no1curr: Seems to me if that's a real, legitimate concern that the solution would be to increase funding to schools. Every child benefits, won't you think of the children?

//No not like that, perv


He claims that child smugglers are getting rich.  Lol.  Trump setup for profit concentration camps for kids, at $750/day/child.  The majority were separated from their parents and were not unaccompanied minors.
You know what else Trump did?  Threatened the families to get the parents to voluntarily deport.  Next his justice dept hauled the children into court without representation and they got life internment to keep the profits rolling in.  I doubt the prisoners are getting much of an education in the concentration camps.
So all lies from this journalist.  The Q-anon party gets off on child torture and racism, they apparently have no mirrors in red America.
 
2021-03-02 6:02:41 AM  
Well, yeah.

The right have a real Us/Them mentality.

They love to create out-groups to hate on in order to foster solidarity within their in-group.

Also the GOP are literally nothing but identity politics junkies.

White. Christian. Anti-feminist.

A coalition of bigots.
 
2021-03-02 6:07:01 AM  
The odds are they'd be better educated at a California public school than a Baptist Christian private school.
 
2021-03-02 6:07:18 AM  
Yesterday: "Schools are socialist indoctrination centers."

Today: "Our kids need socialistic indoctrination more than the others."
 
2021-03-02 6:11:06 AM  

aagrajag: To be fair, English can be a tough language to learn


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2021-03-02 6:13:35 AM  
Incorrect.  The children of Republicans are stealing resources away from my children.  It's as plain as day.  We need to deport all Republicans to correct this.
 
2021-03-02 6:15:38 AM  

phoenix352: Headline could also say:  Fox Host, Brian Kilmeade, dehumanizes children so viewers don't feel sympathy when they are put in cages.


Yeah - it could be YOUR children in those cages. It is so unfair!
 
2021-03-02 6:21:16 AM  
It may or may not be tasteless but it's hard to argue that it's not true...
 
2021-03-02 6:25:07 AM  

My Sober Alt: ¿Has tratado hablar con ellos en español?

/not sure if my grammar is 100% correct, but at least I'm trying!
//Alternativemente we could just teach them English as a 2nd language
///Then you wouldn't have that whole language barrier thing to write them off with.


And young people are very quick to learn the language too.
I know a young man who has been in America only 9 years, only spoke Spanish when he got here. His auntie, who took him in, spoke very little English but enough to get by for the most part.
Well, after only two years of school that kid was nearly fluent in English, even teen slang. He immersed himself in the language and worked hard at it daily. His classmates didn't suffer from him "slowing them down", in fact most of them worked with him and helped him.
Nine years later this young man still speaks his native Spanish but is as fluent in English as any American.
Here's a kicker... He's 18 now and will begin college in the fall. His goal for the future? He wants to be an English teacher.
He certainly isn't the only one to accomplish this. Kids learn easily, they are little sponges.
Anyone who says these kids will take the educational resources from American children can kiss my butt!
I'll never understand why people have such a problem with educating immigrants. The stupid and ugly hearted folks make me sick. It takes a special kind of selfish evil to not want children educated. It's a shame on our country we'll likely never overcome either.


/The auntie of this guy now speaks very good English too. Her nephew taught her English as he was learning it too.
 
2021-03-02 6:33:45 AM  

proteus_b: It may or may not be tasteless but it's hard to argue that it's not true...


It's tasteless, but why stop there?

My kid doesn't have a learning disability....why are resources being taken away from him to help the "slow learners"?

My kid isn't physically disabled....why are resources being taken away from him to service their needs?

I can afford to pack my kids lunch....why is money being spent to feed the poor kids?

I could go on, but you can either accept the fact that we are all in this together....or you can pretend the ignorant statement he made might be tasteless but true.
 
2021-03-02 6:41:40 AM  
I'm going to say this again: the existence of Brian Kilmeade is the only reason Sean Hannity is not the stupidest man on television today.
 
2021-03-02 6:45:33 AM  
Stupidfux and Friends: Stoking white resentment, fear, and rage against others while pretending to be a news show.
 
2021-03-02 6:46:23 AM  

Northern: no1curr: Seems to me if that's a real, legitimate concern that the solution would be to increase funding to schools. Every child benefits, won't you think of the children?

//No not like that, perv

He claims that child smugglers are getting rich.  Lol.  Trump setup for profit concentration camps for kids, at $750/day/child.  The majority were separated from their parents and were not unaccompanied minors.
You know what else Trump did?  Threatened the families to get the parents to voluntarily deport.  Next his justice dept hauled the children into court without representation and they got life internment to keep the profits rolling in.  I doubt the prisoners are getting much of an education in the concentration camps.
So all lies from this journalist.  The Q-anon party gets off on child torture and racism, they apparently have no mirrors in red America.


From this what?!

Kilmenow is a journalist in precisely the same way I am a champion pro quarterback, internet billionaire and Scarlett Johannsen's preferred NYC booty call.

Aspirational, at best. The guy is a TV talk-show host. That is not exactly the same thing. If they're confused about the difference, Greenpoint isn't all that far from the FOX studios. They're welcome to come by any time.

"Well officer, I have no idea what happened there. One minute we were talking about legitimate journalistic practices and the next he was choking to death on my Peabody Award. Really strange. When you guys extricate it from his throat I'd like it back; those things don't grow on trees."
 
2021-03-02 6:47:34 AM  
Yeah, probably those idjits what can't speak no English took my kids education resources!

Man, I hope they keep them immigrants out so I can continue to enjoy the fine public education system what is robustly supported by the Republicans I keep a votin' fer.
 
2021-03-02 6:48:10 AM  

bacchanalias and consequences: Americans are dumb about languages. You can learn them, perhaps not perfectly or quickly (as an adult you'll have an accent and vocabulary gaps) , but functionally and practically enough to have a normal conversation for like an hour or two and fill out paperwork. Literally anyone can do it.

If you're not too dumb to know the concepts of "going," "having," "wanting," "seeing," "feeling," "hearing," "understanding,@ and some basic nouns and pronouns along with numbers and "how much/many" you're well on your way to bring everyday functional in a foreign language.


And the ever important "where is the bathroom?"
My sister learned that a funny way.
She and her husband took a trip to Europe. Italy was going to be the most toured country so she spent a great at deal of time learning the basics. The bathroom question was one she didn't consider getting down pat. Long story so I'll just tell you the best part. Thinking she was asking properly where the facilities were she babbled off words, she was later told, translated to, "please I need to remove my panties and show you my ass" 🤭. The person she asked the question to began laughing, she was confused. She looked around for her husband for help but he was too far away to get his attention. Luckily there was a person in their tour group nearby who spoke fluent Italian, heard the exchange and came to her rescue. Later he explained what her words translated to.
So yeah, be very diligent about the bathroom question as well as all these other helpful tips 🤭
 
2021-03-02 6:49:42 AM  

IamTomJoad: we are all in this together


I actually totally accept this paradigm, I am not one of those who thinks we are all islands. Also I think it can clearly be to the benefit of all to have such special programs, not only the individual children who benefit from them. Nonetheless, there are costs, everything is tradeoffs, and it's not productive when we don't acknowledge them.
 
2021-03-02 6:54:42 AM  

proteus_b: IamTomJoad: we are all in this together

I actually totally accept this paradigm, I am not one of those who thinks we are all islands. Also I think it can clearly be to the benefit of all to have such special programs, not only the individual children who benefit from them. Nonetheless, there are costs, everything is tradeoffs, and it's not productive when we don't acknowledge them.


It is counterproductive when you - that's you, personally - agree with Nazis about resource allocation.
 
2021-03-02 6:55:19 AM  

shpritz: Why are you letting the children of Australians brainwash your population? You know it was a prison colony, right?


How did Australian children get in on this? 🤪
 
2021-03-02 7:01:12 AM  
I don't understand. Why do my English speaking children need an ESOL teacher?
 
2021-03-02 7:02:33 AM  

Lambskincoat: Who says something like that, out loud?


Everyone on FOX except for the "token middle of the roaders"
 
2021-03-02 7:04:31 AM  

poodebunker: bacchanalias and consequences: Americans are dumb about languages. You can learn them, perhaps not perfectly or quickly (as an adult you'll have an accent and vocabulary gaps) , but functionally and practically enough to have a normal conversation for like an hour or two and fill out paperwork. Literally anyone can do it.

If you're not too dumb to know the concepts of "going," "having," "wanting," "seeing," "feeling," "hearing," "understanding,@ and some basic nouns and pronouns along with numbers and "how much/many" you're well on your way to bring everyday functional in a foreign language.

And the ever important "where is the bathroom?"
My sister learned that a funny way.
She and her husband took a trip to Europe. Italy was going to be the most toured country so she spent a great at deal of time learning the basics. The bathroom question was one she didn't consider getting down pat. Long story so I'll just tell you the best part. Thinking she was asking properly where the facilities were she babbled off words, she was later told, translated to, "please I need to remove my panties and show you my ass" 🤭. The person she asked the question to began laughing, she was confused. She looked around for her husband for help but he was too far away to get his attention. Luckily there was a person in their tour group nearby who spoke fluent Italian, heard the exchange and came to her rescue. Later he explained what her words translated to.
So yeah, be very diligent about the bathroom question as well as all these other helpful tips 🤭


I've embarrassed myself in so many languages so many times. Part of learning. Most notably in Vietnamese when I told an entire class "My neighbor has a pussy."

I meant to say my neighbor has a little girl. I didn't realize the slang term was synonymous with that and there's actually another way to say little girl without those connotations.
 
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