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(The Drive)   The Air Force had a surveillance drone orbiting during Iran's ballistic missile attack last year, and yeah, it's a good thing that so many of their missiles failed   (thedrive.com) divider line
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2021-03-01 8:35:01 PM  
Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.
 
2021-03-01 8:43:42 PM  

feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.


So you're saying they're no different than the GOP then.  I'm not sure I like your implication there.
 
2021-03-01 9:05:05 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

So you're saying they're no different than the GOP then.  I'm not sure I like your implication there.


I'm pretty sure I trust the ayatollah more than I trust minority leader turtle.
 
2021-03-01 9:06:56 PM  
That's going up on the big screen later.

That's some precision there.

We assassinated a high ranking government official. What do you expect?

Seems like they knew enough to move vehicles. Is a single base that important that they couldn't give everyone a week off?
 
2021-03-01 9:28:10 PM  

feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.


And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!
 
2021-03-01 10:22:12 PM  

weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!


Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.
 
2021-03-01 10:50:10 PM  

feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.


We over threw their democratically elected government for the oil companies before that

/didnt Carter send in Delta forces who screwed up the rescue?
//And Reagan got the hostages back by illegally selling Iran missiles
///so cool it with the feckless nonsense.  Your hero in this story committed crimes
 
2021-03-01 11:00:49 PM  

weddingsinger: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

We over threw their democratically elected government for the oil companies before that

/didnt Carter send in Delta forces who screwed up the rescue?
//And Reagan got the hostages back by illegally selling Iran missiles
///so cool it with the feckless nonsense.  Your hero in this story committed crimes


Reagan hadn't been president 10 minutes before the hostages were turned over. Must have been a quick deal between the swearing in and the reception.
 
2021-03-01 11:14:28 PM  
On more current news, Trump recklessly killed a major Iranian figure in Iraq. So retaliation was obvious. Fortunately the US military leaders evacuated the base and put everyone in shelters, many not meant to withstand 100-pound warheads of ballistic missiles. We lucked out and lose no personnel.

But, when the military personnel were identified as suffering from a mass causality event of TBI from the warheads' explosives, Trump labeled them as only suffering headaches.

/Fark Trump.
 
2021-03-01 11:23:08 PM  

feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

We over threw their democratically elected government for the oil companies before that

/didnt Carter send in Delta forces who screwed up the rescue?
//And Reagan got the hostages back by illegally selling Iran missiles
///so cool it with the feckless nonsense.  Your hero in this story committed crimes

Reagan hadn't been president 10 minutes before the hostages were turned over. Must have been a quick deal between the swearing in and the reception.


Good point.

Turns out it was Carter who got the job done.  Not that incompetent Ronnie guy

https://www.vox.com/2016/1/25/1082605​6​/reagan-iran-hostage-negotiation
 
2021-03-02 12:46:22 AM  

feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.


Regan is just a figurehead of some shadow cabinet operating. An actor as a president? I mean really. You have to pretty farking dense to think that he wasn't a puppet.
 
2021-03-02 12:48:10 AM  

viscountalpha: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

Regan is just a figurehead of some shadow cabinet operating. An actor as a president? I mean really. You have to pretty farking dense to think that he wasn't a puppet.


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It was Genesis all along.
 
2021-03-02 12:51:23 AM  
So American soldiers felt for the first time in decades what it was like to be on the receiving side of advanced technology, without defensive comforts.  Normally they're the ones launching missiles at people far away.  Interesting.
 
2021-03-02 12:53:50 AM  

feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.


Wait. Is this the stupid crap that makes people trash on Carter?
Because seriously, with most POTUS, their controversies are usually listed in their Wikipedia.
And I read Carter's Wikipedia once and couldn't find a real reason why people dislike the poor guy.
 
2021-03-02 12:54:56 AM  
mmm I love the smell of propaganda in the morning! Now that Grampa Joe is is doddering around the oval office, will Israel finally be able to goad the US into attacking Iran?
 
2021-03-02 12:55:36 AM  

AirForceVet: On more current news, Trump recklessly killed a major Iranian figure in Iraq. So retaliation was obvious. Fortunately the US military leaders evacuated the base and put everyone in shelters, many not meant to withstand 100-pound warheads of ballistic missiles. We lucked out and lose no personnel.

But, when the military personnel were identified as suffering from a mass causality event of TBI from the warheads' explosives, Trump labeled them as only suffering headaches.

/Fark Trump.


1000 pound.
 
2021-03-02 12:57:08 AM  

wantingout: mmm I love the smell of propaganda in the morning! Now that Grampa Joe is is doddering around the oval office, will Israel finally be able to goad the US into attacking Iran?


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-03-02 1:05:31 AM  

feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.


As a middle aged Black American, I'd wager that there are Americans who want me dead more than any Iranian there is. If you look at the people they've taken hostage and/or killed over the years, they tend to be melanin deficient Americans.
 
2021-03-02 1:13:43 AM  

feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.


Um, no that's not what happened.  They had already signed a deal to release the hostages before Reagan was sworn in, in exchange for the un-freezing of assets and quite a few other concessions.  They didn't just let them go, they got paid under a deal negotiated and signed by Carter's administration.  They intentionally waited until Reagan had been sworn in out of spite, one last 'fark you' to Carter from Iran.
 
2021-03-02 1:21:45 AM  

OkieDookie: viscountalpha: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

Regan is just a figurehead of some shadow cabinet operating. An actor as a president? I mean really. You have to pretty farking dense to think that he wasn't a puppet.

[Fark user image 260x194]

It was Genesis all along.


Man that video creeped me the fark out when I was a kid.  The Reagan puppet, in particular.
 
2021-03-02 1:24:03 AM  

Brosephus: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

As a middle aged Black American, I'd wager that there are Americans who want me dead more than any Iranian there is. If you look at the people they've taken hostage and/or killed over the years, they tend to be melanin deficient Americans.


And that's the problem. You think everyone is out to get you. Their not. You're not important.
 
2021-03-02 1:29:31 AM  

feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.


Sure.

The guy who ran crying and screaming from the real Army to the Training Film division as soon as Europe got ugly, and who fled from Beirut like Usain Bolt was chasing him.
 
2021-03-02 1:34:23 AM  

feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.


The only reason Regan got them is because is because he sold them arms in exchange for holding them until he was sworn in.
 
2021-03-02 1:38:46 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

So you're saying they're no different than the GOP then.  I'm not sure I like your implication there.


One group is a bunch of primitives with a backwards religion they use to make life terrible for everyone and will stop at nothing to see every last American dead, the other are the Iranians.
 
2021-03-02 1:41:04 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: Brosephus: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

As a middle aged Black American, I'd wager that there are Americans who want me dead more than any Iranian there is. If you look at the people they've taken hostage and/or killed over the years, they tend to be melanin deficient Americans.

And that's the problem. You think everyone is out to get you. Their not. You're not important.


Important enough to get a response from you Sir. Edgelord. You undercut your own logic being such a dumbass.
 
2021-03-02 1:46:14 AM  

Neondistraction: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

Um, no that's not what happened.  They had already signed a deal to release the hostages before Reagan was sworn in, in exchange for the un-freezing of assets and quite a few other concessions.  They didn't just let them go, they got paid under a deal negotiated and signed by Carter's administration.  They intentionally waited until Reagan had been sworn in out of spite, one last 'fark you' to Carter from Iran.


I was 10 years old when that whole hostage thing started but one thing that I remember from it, true or not, was the news saying the only thing the hostages were given to drink was maggot-infested milk.
It may have been true or it may have been propaganda but to this day it makes me wretch thinking about it.
 
Juc
2021-03-02 1:50:27 AM  
That was only last year? Jesus that feels like a decade ago.
 
2021-03-02 1:52:20 AM  

Juc: That was only last year? Jesus that feels like a decade ago.


2020 was a long decade
 
2021-03-02 2:10:54 AM  
So basically they knew it was coming and still left people in harm's way, but hey, at least they got some expensive equipment out.
 
2021-03-02 2:13:58 AM  
I wonder what our reaction would be if the Iranians managed to get a Predator drone strike to blow up the CENTCOM General as he got in his limo to drive home off MacDill AFB.
 
2021-03-02 2:17:46 AM  
Uh, nobody ever said (nobody SMART ever said) the Iranians were bad at war. It's been their default condition for like the past 3000 years.

They are very good at it, which is why it was a bad thing when Trump was saber-rattling a couple years ago. They might lose eventually, but they seriously can fark shiat up with the best militaries on the planet.
 
2021-03-02 2:40:16 AM  

cretinbob: That's going up on the big screen later.

That's some precision there.

We assassinated a high ranking government official. What do you expect?

Seems like they knew enough to move vehicles. Is a single base that important that they couldn't give everyone a week off?


Complex geopolitics aside, not enough bunkers?  Really?

That's not exactly new farking technology.
 
2021-03-02 3:06:32 AM  

C18H27NO3: Neondistraction: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

Um, no that's not what happened.  They had already signed a deal to release the hostages before Reagan was sworn in, in exchange for the un-freezing of assets and quite a few other concessions.  They didn't just let them go, they got paid under a deal negotiated and signed by Carter's administration.  They intentionally waited until Reagan had been sworn in out of spite, one last 'fark you' to Carter from Iran.

I was 10 years old when that whole hostage thing started but one thing that I remember from it, true or not, was the news saying the only thing the hostages were given to drink was maggot-infested milk.
It may have been true or it may have been propaganda but to this day it makes me wretch thinking about it.


It was propaganda. They were not treated great; there were a few mock executions and a great deal of privation; but they were treated as well as hostages could expect under the circumstances. Of course, half the hostages were Marines, they might have been okay with it.

Source "Guests of the Ayatollah" by Mark Bowden, among others. Also being older than ten when it happened; I watched Ted Koppel every night and never heard the maggotty milk story.
 
2021-03-02 3:24:24 AM  

OkieDookie: viscountalpha: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

Regan is just a figurehead of some shadow cabinet operating. An actor as a president? I mean really. You have to pretty farking dense to think that he wasn't a puppet.

[Fark user image 260x194]

It was Genesis all along.


IMHO that should not have been a teddy bear but a stuffed monkey he was holding...To make a super-meta
joke of it...
 
2021-03-02 4:16:53 AM  

AirForceVet: On more current news, Trump recklessly killed a major Iranian figure in Iraq. So retaliation was obvious. Fortunately the US military leaders evacuated the base and put everyone in shelters, many not meant to withstand 100-pound warheads of ballistic missiles. We lucked out and lose no personnel.

But, when the military personnel were identified as suffering from a mass causality event of TBI from the warheads' explosives, Trump labeled them as only suffering headaches.

/Fark Trump.


That major Iranian figure was responsible for organizing and giving orders to irregular forces in other countries for the purposes of destabilization. He needed killing by someone. People like that are fair game for anyone, period. They are truly evil.
 
2021-03-02 4:19:36 AM  

cretinbob: That's going up on the big screen later.

That's some precision there.

We assassinated a high ranking government official. What do you expect?

Seems like they knew enough to move vehicles. Is a single base that important that they couldn't give everyone a week off?


this was the culmination of a series of retaliations.  had the Iranians not felt like tgey made their point, then the missiles would have probably landed somewhere else, or just kept coming.  It's not like they dont have a large stockpile.

the real question is, why has this been declassified and why specifically now?

My guess is it's serving a few purposes
1. let tge Iranians know they gave US a "black eye" so they can feel good about themselves.
2. also let them know that the US to a certain extent let it happen, so they not to try again.
3. allowed things to settle down a bit to try to restart nuclear negotiations with neither side feeling imminently threatened.

/just my amateur 2c
 
2021-03-02 4:26:41 AM  

feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

We over threw their democratically elected government for the oil companies before that

/didnt Carter send in Delta forces who screwed up the rescue?
//And Reagan got the hostages back by illegally selling Iran missiles
///so cool it with the feckless nonsense.  Your hero in this story committed crimes

Reagan hadn't been president 10 minutes before the hostages were turned over. Must have been a quick deal between the swearing in and the reception.


well documented tgat the Reagan team was negotiating "on behalf of America" 6 months prior to the general election.

1 of the many illegal things he, HW, and the rest of their team did before and during his Presidency.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octob​e​r_Surprise_conspiracy_theory

the allegations are from people directly involved in the deal.

investigations by GOP-controlled House and Senate?  Remember Reagan's 11th Commandment
 
2021-03-02 4:29:04 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: Brosephus: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

As a middle aged Black American, I'd wager that there are Americans who want me dead more than any Iranian there is. If you look at the people they've taken hostage and/or killed over the years, they tend to be melanin deficient Americans.

And that's the problem. You think everyone is out to get you. Their not. You're not important.


WTF man? You know as well as I do that there are plenty of people who would love to see every non white person removed from this country and most of them are not particular about how it happens.

Why do you think he's trying to say he is particularly important? He's just relating from his point of view what I hear LOTS of my fellow rural white men say when there's no minorities around.
 
2021-03-02 4:32:55 AM  

feckingmorons: Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.


God damn you're stupid.
 
2021-03-02 4:55:16 AM  

BolloxReader: That major Iranian figure was responsible for organizing and giving orders to irregular forces in other countries for the purposes of destabilization. He needed killing by someone. People like that are fair game for anyone, period. They are truly evil.


I am just going to ask if you realize the irony in that statement, at least in defending US action.
 
2021-03-02 5:22:53 AM  

waxbeans: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

Wait. Is this the stupid crap that makes people trash on Carter?
Because seriously, with most POTUS, their controversies are usually listed in their Wikipedia.
And I read Carter's Wikipedia once and couldn't find a real reason why people dislike the poor guy.


President Carter wasn't an effective president, however his life after is exemplary. Heck he even beat brain cancer.
 
2021-03-02 5:27:13 AM  

weddingsinger: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

We over threw their democratically elected government for the oil companies before that

/didnt Carter send in Delta forces who screwed up the rescue?
//And Reagan got the hostages back by illegally selling Iran missiles
///so cool it with the feckless nonsense.  Your hero in this story committed crimes


...Carter never really wanted to send in the troops, and almost his entire cabinet opposed it (his SecState quit a few days later) but if he wanted to have even a snowball's chance of reelection in 1980 he had to take the shot.  The fact that a lot of his advisors were utterly clueless about what needed to be done didn't help - they and Carter were insisting on no civilian casualties or collateral damage, and tuned out any explanations to the contrary.

The real problem with the raid was its complexity - every single detail had to work just the way they had planned, or it would blow up in their faces...which is exactly what happened. For most of the operation, there was little or no Plan B, not to mention that in terms of resources they cut it way too close.  Add to that the other hitches that got in the way (the helos being disabled by a sandstorm, the sudden appearance of a bus full of civilians) and it may not have ever had any real chance at all.  But - and this is important - the military wasn't going to say no, COL Bull Simons was determined to show what his Delta Force could do,  and Carter was going to send them in one way or another.
 
2021-03-02 5:39:16 AM  
"...U.S. government...monitoring Iranian purchases of commercial satellite imagery..."
 
2021-03-02 5:49:47 AM  

feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.


MadTV Parody on Al Jazeera: Death To America!
Youtube TS4v_kj9rw4
 
2021-03-02 6:28:41 AM  

The Southern Dandy: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

The only reason Regan got them is because is because he sold them arms in exchange for holding them until he was sworn in.


Reagan should have been impeached for that.

Instead he was "investigated" and "cleared" thanks to GOP efforts.

The GOP have been running interference for criminal presidents sincr long before the criminal Trump was installed.
 
2021-03-02 6:30:50 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: Brosephus: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

As a middle aged Black American, I'd wager that there are Americans who want me dead more than any Iranian there is. If you look at the people they've taken hostage and/or killed over the years, they tend to be melanin deficient Americans.

And that's the problem. You think everyone is out to get you. Their not. You're not important.


Says the white guy from... Alabama.

You probably should sit this one out.
 
2021-03-02 6:33:59 AM  

feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

We over threw their democratically elected government for the oil companies before that

/didnt Carter send in Delta forces who screwed up the rescue?
//And Reagan got the hostages back by illegally selling Iran missiles
///so cool it with the feckless nonsense.  Your hero in this story committed crimes

Reagan hadn't been president 10 minutes before the hostages were turned over. Must have been a quick deal between the swearing in and the reception.


Sometimes its hard to tell if naivete or intentional stupidity
 
2021-03-02 6:37:41 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Uh, nobody ever said (nobody SMART ever said) the Iranians were bad at war. It's been their default condition for like the past 3000 years.

They are very good at it, which is why it was a bad thing when Trump was saber-rattling a couple years ago. They might lose eventually, but they seriously can fark shiat up with the best militaries on the planet.


I recently read a biography of Qassem Soleimani and the dude had quite a legend built around him. Some of it was hype, but some of it was clearly real and well-attested.

During the 2006 war between Hezbollah and Israel, Soleimani was in Beirut in an advisory position (he made the trip there against the advice of the Hezbollah leadership). Because buildings in south Beirut were being bombed and collapsing all over the place, he apparently wore civilian clothes and pitched a tent in a public park under a tree at night to sleep.

The dude was good at what he did, fearless and respected, even by Iranians who oppose the government.
 
2021-03-02 6:40:12 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: Brosephus: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

As a middle aged Black American, I'd wager that there are Americans who want me dead more than any Iranian there is. If you look at the people they've taken hostage and/or killed over the years, they tend to be melanin deficient Americans.

And that's the problem. You think everyone is out to get you. Their not. You're not important.


Their what?
 
2021-03-02 6:43:00 AM  

C18H27NO3: Neondistraction: feckingmorons: weddingsinger: feckingmorons: Iranian leadership wants you dead if you're American. I think we all know that.

And after how nice we've been to them over the years?

Inconceivable!

Do you forget the kidnapping and imprisonment of 52 Americans? They only let them go because they knew Regan would bomb Iran until there wasn't a palm tree standing if they didn't. It wasn't the feckless Carter that got them home.

Um, no that's not what happened.  They had already signed a deal to release the hostages before Reagan was sworn in, in exchange for the un-freezing of assets and quite a few other concessions.  They didn't just let them go, they got paid under a deal negotiated and signed by Carter's administration.  They intentionally waited until Reagan had been sworn in out of spite, one last 'fark you' to Carter from Iran.

I was 10 years old when that whole hostage thing started but one thing that I remember from it, true or not, was the news saying the only thing the hostages were given to drink was maggot-infested milk.
It may have been true or it may have been propaganda but to this day it makes me wretch thinking about it.


Thanks for sharing .
Waitress please change my order from cereal to oatmeal. Thx
 
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