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2021-03-02 12:18:54 PM  
The only URL left was "bangthequeenofengland.ca" and the queen wouldn't let them use it for their covid vaccine website
 
2021-03-02 12:23:20 PM  

the voice of raisin: you are almost correct on your first point.  The EU does claim "priority" for smy vaccines manufactured within its borders, with the same reasoning as the US.


The UK also had priority on UK made supplies. The difference was everyone, AstraZenica and all their potential customers, knew this from the start. What the EU did was allow countries like the UK to place orders and then, only after the EUs failures became clear and they started to panic, did they announce a ban and export controls to be imposed immediately. So the UK placed orders with EU suppliers on the clear legal understanding that their delivery schedule was perfectly legal and proper, only for the EU to pull the rug from under us at the last second.

the voice of raisin: your second point is bullshiat.  The UK is no longer part of the EU and insists on not following EU regulations so of course there will be a reinstated border between  the UK and the Republic of Ireland.  Are you also upset there's a border between Turkey and Greece?


The EU has spent five years insisting there must not be any border controls within Ireland. The EU announced border controls effective immediately without even bothering to warn the Irish government.  When you had both Sinn Fein and the DUP united in calling you idiots you know you screwed up. The fact the EU backed down and dropped that plan mere hours later clearly shows they know they screwed up.
 
2021-03-02 12:44:51 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: the voice of raisin: you are almost correct on your first point.  The EU does claim "priority" for smy vaccines manufactured within its borders, with the same reasoning as the US.

The UK also had priority on UK made supplies. The difference was everyone, AstraZenica and all their potential customers, knew this from the start. What the EU did was allow countries like the UK to place orders and then, only after the EUs failures became clear and they started to panic, did they announce a ban and export controls to be imposed immediately. So the UK placed orders with EU suppliers on the clear legal understanding that their delivery schedule was perfectly legal and proper, only for the EU to pull the rug from under us at the last second.

the voice of raisin: your second point is bullshiat.  The UK is no longer part of the EU and insists on not following EU regulations so of course there will be a reinstated border between  the UK and the Republic of Ireland.  Are you also upset there's a border between Turkey and Greece?

The EU has spent five years insisting there must not be any border controls within Ireland. The EU announced border controls effective immediately without even bothering to warn the Irish government.  When you had both Sinn Fein and the DUP united in calling you idiots you know you screwed up. The fact the EU backed down and dropped that plan mere hours later clearly shows they know they screwed up.


Canada has/had contracts with the US for most medical supplies and vaccines.

they will "eventually" be filled.

unless you're willing to start a shooting war over it or find your vaccines somewhere else, we'll just have to "suck it up" for now.

not saying it's right, but I'm saying I understand.

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The threat of a hard border between the UK and Republic of Ireland was first brought up by Remainers during the vote.

Leavers thought the EU was bluffing, and that the Remainers were being alarmist.

you played "Chicken" and lost.

suck it up
 
2021-03-02 3:42:01 PM  

the voice of raisin: Canada has/had contracts with the US for most medical supplies and vaccines.

they will "eventually" be filled.

unless you're willing to start a shooting war over it or find your vaccines somewhere else, we'll just have to "suck it up" for now.

not saying it's right, but I'm saying I understand.


I suppose it comes down to when those export restrictions were announced. If Canada knew about them at the start then they could have either insisted on production within Canada (The UK placed orders many months before vaccines were ready giving them time to set up production facilities) or done deals with non US countries that could promise supply.
What the EU did was allow orders to be placed and suddenly announce export restrictions just as shipments were underway.

the voice of raisin: The threat of a hard border between the UK and Republic of Ireland was first brought up by Remainers during the vote.

Leavers thought the EU was bluffing, and that the Remainers were being alarmist.

you played "Chicken" and lost.

suck it up


Actually us leavers attitude was "Well duh. Of course there's going to be a border." The Republic would be in the EU and NI would be outside. Of course there would be a border. How could there not be?

But we'd be happy to keep it as low key and unobtrusive as possible. Had Ireland not made a huge deal of it we could have quietly left it pretty much open to people and cars without anyone really caring. When we lived in Canada decades ago my parents remembered you could cross over into the US and back with no passports or checking. There was even an episode of Frasier based on the gang in an RV crossing over into Canada in an RV while Daphne was asleep and her freaking out when she found out because it violated her green card. It wasn't until after 911 that the border was tightened up.

The Irish border could have been quietly kept that loose and no one would have cared.

But once Ireland made a big deal about a proper solution had to be found, and Theresa May made a huge blunder by promising the Irish she'd keep the border open, which the EU then leapt on and meant the UK had to find some magic way to keep a border 100% open while not allowing anything the EU didn't like in. Hence the backstop and then Boris's border in the sea deal.

Had May not stupidly made that promise, something she didn't have to do, then the UK would have just said "Yeah, there's going to be a border. Duh. Deal with it."

See here for a more detailed account.
 
2021-03-02 3:48:59 PM  

JaytheFarkingCanadian: Russ1642: I couldn't finish reading that but rest assured that whoever wrote it is a farking idiot.

Same. Coming from the National Post,it was already suspect. Basically, its the T.O. Sun without the Sunshine Girl and the sports section.


Same ownership, same editorial policies
 
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