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(The Daily Beast)   A spokesman for the Company E-Republic denies that the company's toxic working environment has anything to do with most of its execs being Scientologists, pointing out there are many non-cult run companies that treat their workers just as badly   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2021-03-01 5:06:47 PM  
<CTRL-F> "Democrat" - Phrase not found
 
2021-03-01 8:17:40 PM  

GardenWeasel: <CTRL-F> "Democrat" - Phrase not found yet


FTFY
 
2021-03-01 10:14:11 PM  
One from the vaults; Operation Clambake
 
2021-03-01 10:27:10 PM  

GardenWeasel: <CTRL-F> "Democrat" - Phrase not found


I'm lost. Did the headline change?
 
2021-03-01 10:32:05 PM  
He had a full time job as a teacher and took a job at a shiat rated company who started their salary at 24k/year? I know teaching salaries are chronically described as too low, but 24k/year for 10 hour days working for raging assholes cannot be a step up from teaching.

Why... On Earth... Did he take that job, and why in Earth stay?
 
2021-03-01 10:32:46 PM  
Who would have ever guessed a business run by Scientologists implementing Scientologist ideas would be an crazy place to work.
 
2021-03-01 10:41:55 PM  
Scientology is a cult run as a business masquerading as a religion.
 
2021-03-01 10:45:17 PM  

Quantumbunny: He had a full time job as a teacher and took a job at a shiat rated company who started their salary at 24k/year? I know teaching salaries are chronically described as too low, but 24k/year for 10 hour days working for raging assholes cannot be a step up from teaching.

Why... On Earth... Did he take that job, and why in Earth stay?


Teachers often work for raging assholes as well - academic administrators are often... cranky.  In both senses of the word.  Add to them the other assholes you're working for, the parents. And then you have to teach little assholes to boot.  No, not all of them, but some kids have definitely learned how to be just like mom and dad.  That being said, far as I know about the lowest you're going to see anymore is 45k-ish for a full time teaching position, even in a crappy pay area.  Taking a half you salary cut for this?  Ummm...
 
2021-03-01 10:49:26 PM  

Quantumbunny: Why... On Earth... Did he take that job, and why in Earth stay?


Maybe he felt dead-ended in his teaching job and thought this job had potential for advancement.
 
2021-03-01 11:22:07 PM  

morg: GardenWeasel: <CTRL-F> "Democrat" - Phrase not found

I'm lost. Did the headline change?


Fark headline changed, but it's still in the article URL. No idea to whom they are referring.
 
2021-03-01 11:57:24 PM  

Quantumbunny: He had a full time job as a teacher and took a job at a shiat rated company who started their salary at 24k/year?


That's not what the article said.

It said salaries as low as $24k, it didn't say that was his salary.
 
2021-03-02 12:13:27 AM  

scanman61: Quantumbunny: He had a full time job as a teacher and took a job at a shiat rated company who started their salary at 24k/year?

That's not what the article said.

It said salaries as low as $24k, it didn't say that was his salary.


You're right, I am curious how much, because even a lateral pay move seems like a bad call for this job, but if they start at 24k a year and follow the scientology rules of screwing the employees as much as possible to maximize your profit... 48k seems a stretch. But California pays higher than average teacher wages... The worst in the state are 47k a year... For first year teaching. If you have experience, it can go 90k to 110k a year. Overtime ranges, but 10hr/day with no vacation isn't generally how teaching works, especially with the breaks. Why risk that for this company of assholes who time your pee breaks, count your post its, don't give you vacation, don't honor ADA... Company like that isn't likely to give you a path up to 90k a year. If you have no chance to get bonuses, at least teaching offers a retirement option.

The motives to take that job still seem really weird to me, to stay there isn't any better. And they had another job, so they know changing jobs is an option.
 
2021-03-02 8:54:07 AM  
the Company E-Republic denies that the company's toxic working environment has anything to do with most of its execs being Scientologists, pointing out there are many non-cult run companies that treat their workers just as badly

To be fair, that is a valid argument.
 
2021-03-02 9:36:58 AM  

dready zim: the Company E-Republic denies that the company's toxic working environment has anything to do with most of its execs being Scientologists, pointing out there are many non-cult run companies that treat their workers just as badly

To be fair, that is a valid argument.


Unfortunately for them, our legal system is primarily motivated on intent. Takes something like a justified self defense and makes it Murder in the First.

Being an asshole is legally okay, religious discrimination (against non Scientologists, for instance) is suddenly not, even if you are an asshole in general, you can't be nicer to the scientologists than you are to the others.
 
2021-03-02 7:56:07 PM  

Quantumbunny: dready zim: the Company E-Republic denies that the company's toxic working environment has anything to do with most of its execs being Scientologists, pointing out there are many non-cult run companies that treat their workers just as badly

To be fair, that is a valid argument.

Unfortunately for them, our legal system is primarily motivated on intent. Takes something like a justified self defense and makes it Murder in the First.

Being an asshole is legally okay, religious discrimination (against non Scientologists, for instance) is suddenly not, even if you are an asshole in general, you can't be nicer to the scientologists than you are to the others.


Is that what they were doing? Obviously I did not RTFA
 
2021-03-02 9:21:45 PM  

dready zim: Quantumbunny: dready zim: the Company E-Republic denies that the company's toxic working environment has anything to do with most of its execs being Scientologists, pointing out there are many non-cult run companies that treat their workers just as badly

To be fair, that is a valid argument.

Unfortunately for them, our legal system is primarily motivated on intent. Takes something like a justified self defense and makes it Murder in the First.

Being an asshole is legally okay, religious discrimination (against non Scientologists, for instance) is suddenly not, even if you are an asshole in general, you can't be nicer to the scientologists than you are to the others.

Is that what they were doing? Obviously I did not RTFA


Well, hard to say for sure, but the executives are all Scientologists and they treat everyone who isn't like ass. They claim it's just good business, former execs cousin it's scientology business practices...

So probably, more than just being regular businessman assholes.
 
2021-03-03 6:48:57 AM  

Quantumbunny: dready zim: Quantumbunny: dready zim: the Company E-Republic denies that the company's toxic working environment has anything to do with most of its execs being Scientologists, pointing out there are many non-cult run companies that treat their workers just as badly

To be fair, that is a valid argument.

Unfortunately for them, our legal system is primarily motivated on intent. Takes something like a justified self defense and makes it Murder in the First.

Being an asshole is legally okay, religious discrimination (against non Scientologists, for instance) is suddenly not, even if you are an asshole in general, you can't be nicer to the scientologists than you are to the others.

Is that what they were doing? Obviously I did not RTFA

Well, hard to say for sure, but the executives are all Scientologists and they treat everyone who isn't like ass. They claim it's just good business, former execs cousin it's scientology business practices...

So probably, more than just being regular businessman assholes.


Although, and just playing devil's advocate here, don't most execs treat people who are like them better than they treat other people? Scientology or not. Given the obligatory reasonable doubt, their argument still holds.

This is the standard explanation for why young male go-getters get promoted faster, because they remind the execs of themselves when they were younger, even though if viewed objectively their work output or quality might not reflect this.

To be really clear, I have not worked for a boss in decades, so I don't have any direct experience of executives. I also think Scientology is an utterly vile cult who employ horribly coercive practices to artificially bolster supporters at the expense of 'non-believers' in a similar way to the masons, so I totally believe the assertions in TFA.
 
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