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2021-03-01 11:16:02 AM  
People who practice the rhythm method are called "parents."
 
2021-03-01 11:18:46 AM  
So fark is having another pledge drive.
 
2021-03-01 11:18:56 AM  

Cafe Threads: People who practice the rhythm method are called "parents."


Have you seen most people try to clap on the beat?
 
2021-03-01 11:29:33 AM  
I thought we already had that in the form of WoW?
 
2021-03-01 11:31:55 AM  

Cafe Threads: People who practice the rhythm method are called "parents."


It's a bit more sophisticated than "the rhythm method", in that it calculates personalized risk windows ... which can be chosen conservatively.  But I still won't trust just timing without additional sympto-thermal measurements.
 
2021-03-01 11:32:46 AM  

zeroflight222: I thought we already had that in the form of WoW?


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2021-03-01 11:40:04 AM  
FDA approved vs. FDA cleared

Not the same, subby!
 
2021-03-01 11:48:40 AM  
My 1970s era sex education says you CAN get pregnant from finger banging, depending on what you got on your fingers.  Keep it clean unsticky kids.
 
2021-03-01 11:50:39 AM  
yeah so this image
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pushing rhythm method birth control=obviously I have to deduce that this is a  right wing christian group attempting to fly under the radar acting as the feminist empowerment technological group.Just get some of them in font of a mic and interview them to see what they think about evolution and homosexuality to find out.
 
2021-03-01 11:51:22 AM  
South Park - Fingerbang
Youtube _xEhr2kbRw4
 
2021-03-01 12:05:20 PM  
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2021-03-01 12:06:26 PM  
csb:
I was bowling in a tournament in 2014, our squad was scheduled for a Friday night around 8pm, but was delayed so we went in to the bar. They got us going around 9:30 after 4-5 Founders Centennial IPA's, so we were feeling no pain. We filled out our team form, and I drunkenly put down "Finger Bangers" as our team name. It was funny in my head.

I was anchorman, and amazingly tossed a 300 the 2nd game. It was a sanctioned event, so I was eligible for a ring, but since I was drunk I made some modifications to it....the date, my initials, and our team name. It was horribly embarassing explaining to the ring company a week later what I had written on the ring sheet.

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2021-03-01 12:14:15 PM  

PvtStash: yeah so this image
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pushing rhythm method birth control=obviously I have to deduce that this is a  right wing christian group attempting to fly under the radar acting as the feminist empowerment technological group.Just get some of them in font of a mic and interview them to see what they think about evolution and homosexuality to find out.


Why wouldn't using algorithms based on period data, to help with family planning not be empowering to women?  I like how you play the jump to conclusions game.
 
2021-03-01 12:16:51 PM  
It's a headache tracker?
 
2021-03-01 12:30:53 PM  
Oh, if my computer could get pregnant it would have happened a long time ago.
 
2021-03-01 12:42:09 PM  

American-Irish eyes: PvtStash: yeah so this image
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pushing rhythm method birth control=obviously I have to deduce that this is a  right wing christian group attempting to fly under the radar acting as the feminist empowerment technological group.Just get some of them in font of a mic and interview them to see what they think about evolution and homosexuality to find out.

Why wouldn't using algorithms based on period data, to help with family planning not be empowering to women?  I like how you play the jump to conclusions game.


I don't think they read the article.   *shrugs*
I intend to sign up for this.  It would help me predict my cycle much better and effectively than trying to rely on a calendar alone.  And since I'm no longer on the pill, any additional means that can help me avoid pregnancy is a win.
 
2021-03-01 1:14:41 PM  

raerae1980: American-Irish eyes: PvtStash: yeah so this image
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pushing rhythm method birth control=obviously I have to deduce that this is a  right wing christian group attempting to fly under the radar acting as the feminist empowerment technological group.Just get some of them in font of a mic and interview them to see what they think about evolution and homosexuality to find out.

Why wouldn't using algorithms based on period data, to help with family planning not be empowering to women?  I like how you play the jump to conclusions game.

I don't think they read the article.   *shrugs*
I intend to sign up for this.  It would help me predict my cycle much better and effectively than trying to rely on a calendar alone.  And since I'm no longer on the pill, any additional means that can help me avoid pregnancy is a win.


If that's all you want out of it, this would probably be overkill.  They, and many others, have highly reviewed & effective apps just for that purpose that would probably be better suited.
 
2021-03-01 1:35:13 PM  

zeroflight222: raerae1980: American-Irish eyes: PvtStash: yeah so this image
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pushing rhythm method birth control=obviously I have to deduce that this is a  right wing christian group attempting to fly under the radar acting as the feminist empowerment technological group.Just get some of them in font of a mic and interview them to see what they think about evolution and homosexuality to find out.

Why wouldn't using algorithms based on period data, to help with family planning not be empowering to women?  I like how you play the jump to conclusions game.

I don't think they read the article.   *shrugs*
I intend to sign up for this.  It would help me predict my cycle much better and effectively than trying to rely on a calendar alone.  And since I'm no longer on the pill, any additional means that can help me avoid pregnancy is a win.

If that's all you want out of it, this would probably be overkill.  They, and many others, have highly reviewed & effective apps just for that purpose that would probably be better suited.


This is the first I've heard about these apps, and welcome any recommendations if you have them :-)
 
2021-03-01 1:42:42 PM  
Clue, an early pioneer in the femtech category with a well-regarded period-tracking app that's used by around 13 million people, is getting ready to launch a digital contraceptive which will offer users a statistical prediction of ovulation as a birth control tool.

A US launch of Clue Birth Control is slated for "this year". The team won't be more specific on the date yet.


This doesn't inspire confidence in a tool that is dependent on date calculations.
 
2021-03-01 1:46:25 PM  

raerae1980: zeroflight222: raerae1980: American-Irish eyes: PvtStash: yeah so this image
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pushing rhythm method birth control=obviously I have to deduce that this is a  right wing christian group attempting to fly under the radar acting as the feminist empowerment technological group.Just get some of them in font of a mic and interview them to see what they think about evolution and homosexuality to find out.

Why wouldn't using algorithms based on period data, to help with family planning not be empowering to women?  I like how you play the jump to conclusions game.

I don't think they read the article.   *shrugs*
I intend to sign up for this.  It would help me predict my cycle much better and effectively than trying to rely on a calendar alone.  And since I'm no longer on the pill, any additional means that can help me avoid pregnancy is a win.

If that's all you want out of it, this would probably be overkill.  They, and many others, have highly reviewed & effective apps just for that purpose that would probably be better suited.

This is the first I've heard about these apps, and welcome any recommendations if you have them :-)


As a guy I don't have any personal experience with any of them, but occasionally end up in conversations with people who do when the subject codes up.  From those conversations, the ones I hear the most positives about are Flo and Clue.
 
2021-03-01 1:53:17 PM  

raerae1980: American-Irish eyes: PvtStash: yeah so this image
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pushing rhythm method birth control=obviously I have to deduce that this is a  right wing christian group attempting to fly under the radar acting as the feminist empowerment technological group.Just get some of them in font of a mic and interview them to see what they think about evolution and homosexuality to find out.

Why wouldn't using algorithms based on period data, to help with family planning not be empowering to women?  I like how you play the jump to conclusions game.

I don't think they read the article.   *shrugs*
I intend to sign up for this.  It would help me predict my cycle much better and effectively than trying to rely on a calendar alone.  And since I'm no longer on the pill, any additional means that can help me avoid pregnancy is a win.



Allow me to clarify the POV  i have on this:

we know they rhythm method of birth control is not the most reliable one we have available to us.
We Also know that there are some exceptions of course and for a few people the rhythm method might be the only viable option.
But it is, on the scale of options available, not a rationale chocie to make, if other options are possible.

birth control pills and condoms and IUDs are options for the vast majority of people, and they are all more reliable options to choose.

So i find that anyone who explicitly encourages use of the rhythm method, without always giving the caveat that there are other more reliable options.
They could not have had the intent to be helping make reliable birth control a more available thing.

The sales pitch would need to explicitly be:
If you already use rhythm method, here's a better tool for doing that.
OR:
If the more reliable methods of birth control are not an option for you, here's the best way to do the rhythm method.

Then that'd be real different. but just pitching rhythm method, stand alone as if that's just as rational a chocie as any other...
I kinda notice the difference when a pitch seems to turn a blind eye to the reality it is part of.
Like how rhythm method is not nearly as relabel as other options and so probably ought to not be anyone's go to first choice really.


Good to have options, good to improve on all of them when we can.
but that';s a real different situation than wording that acts as if the choice offered is as good as any.

And her ein the article is the, what is to me, tell tale part.

"
Suitability
No method of contraception - except for abstinence - is 100% effective, of course. But just comparing the varying efficacy percentages of different contraception methods may not be super helpful given how personal birth control choices are."

And that section of the article, it goes on for 1795 words, but can't actually be bothered to make mention of condoms, cause i guess the woman don't wear it so she could never in a million years buy them and demand their use, right? So totes legit to not mention that option at all.
And then they say the same old same old same old

""No method of contraception - except for abstinence - is 100% effective, of course.

So they can bother to mention this data point of 100%, they got that data.
But then when they do have to point out the IUD is 99.9% effective,. it gets the generic

"IUD or the Mirena", which are ~99.9%) have draw-backs too"

oh draw backs you say? maybe you could give examples?

"- in that they have to be placed and removed from the woman's uterus."


ok but like any data point stats based medical/health reasons?


"They may also, she suggests, have a long term effect on the endometrium."

uhhh, but like some data on that maybe, you did use 1795 words ion this section of the article to talk about who it may be suitable for, but uhh, basically in all that you only make a case for using your product and do not spell out ever once that if other options work for you, that are more reliable \of course you'd want to be sure and use them if they are available to you...

So this was the evidence to my supposition that this product comes to us from people who have more of a christian agenda message to work, than actually helping humanity have better access to reliable birth control.

You know simply becaseu more reliable options are already her, and nothing about the sales ad even remotely suggest that this product is for those who can't or won't use already available  and more reliable  options.

If other options were not an option, this is great.
If other options were an option, then this one don't seem a particularly rational choice.
And anyone that would pitch this, as if it were just as good a chocie as any, for anyone, is a lying ass hole.

And as i find it is the christian crowd i most commonly associate with dispensing misleading or misconstrued information about birth control. It seems the safest statistical odds that this is a product being developed and marketed by a christian group of some kind, obfuscating their roots as feminism empowering something something.
Cause yeah a woman taking higher odds of an unwanted pregnancy, if she didn't have to, sure sounds real empowering to her situation don't it?


I'll keep my chips right there on, 20/1 obfuscated christian group, i'm pretty sure these dice are gonna roll my way.
 
2021-03-01 1:58:10 PM  
CLARIFICATION:

yes they do mention condoms and other options, but again in the same way all the christian groups do , as a brief bit of throw away text that suggest they are not all that and what were talking a bout is perfectly equal.

When a write up spends several thousand words on one POV sided, and gives all of 5-10 words to the "other data" that is the  tell tale sign of the attempt to obfuscate the bs.
 
2021-03-01 2:41:27 PM  

Cafe Threads: People who practice the rhythm method are called "parents."


The iPad is the first digital kotex pad.
 
2021-03-01 2:44:53 PM  

stuhayes2010: Oh, if my computer could get pregnant it would have happened a long time ago.


Walls can get pregnant.  Be careful
 
2021-03-01 2:46:37 PM  

raerae1980: American-Irish eyes: PvtStash: yeah so this image
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pushing rhythm method birth control=obviously I have to deduce that this is a  right wing christian group attempting to fly under the radar acting as the feminist empowerment technological group.Just get some of them in font of a mic and interview them to see what they think about evolution and homosexuality to find out.

Why wouldn't using algorithms based on period data, to help with family planning not be empowering to women?  I like how you play the jump to conclusions game.

I don't think they read the article.   *shrugs*
I intend to sign up for this.  It would help me predict my cycle much better and effectively than trying to rely on a calendar alone.  And since I'm no longer on the pill, any additional means that can help me avoid pregnancy is a win.


Just stay away from guys named Peter or Richard and youll be alright.
 
2021-03-01 2:47:24 PM  
The rhythm method is not a contraceptive.

Yeeeeeesh.
 
2021-03-01 4:04:18 PM  

Cafe Threads: People who practice the rhythm method are called "parents."


I came here to deliver this line, kinda impressed to see that it popped up immediately.

So in the interest of adding to it, I'd just like to point out that the person that I personally learned that joke from was a practicing obstetrician at the time, who I once saw make it to a patient.

Just wanna underline now farking stupid you need to be for your actual doctor to straight-up call you stupid to your face, when like 99% of medical training for consultations is about gently talking patients down from dumb ideas and around to better ones.  Rhythm method is a level of stupidity that triggers the "done with your shiat" switch in people who are literally being paid to put up with your shiat.
 
2021-03-01 7:06:02 PM  
idk maybe some kids need to be told not to use C*m as a lubricant.
 
2021-03-01 9:47:48 PM  

PvtStash: CLARIFICATION:

yes they do mention condoms and other options, but again in the same way all the christian groups do , as a brief bit of throw away text that suggest they are not all that and what were talking a bout is perfectly equal.


They also have a picture of their system, showing the most fertile time of the month labeled "use protection".  So it's got that going for it.
 
2021-03-01 9:49:53 PM  

zeroflight222: raerae1980: zeroflight222: raerae1980: American-Irish eyes: PvtStash: yeah so this image
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This is the first I've heard about these apps, and welcome any recommendations if you have them :-)

As a guy I don't have any personal experience with any of them, but occasionally end up in conversations with people who do when the subject codes up.  From those conversations, the ones I hear the most positives about are Flo and Clue.


AFAIK, Apple Health has a good reputation as a period tracker, though it probably doesn't provide birth control info along with it.
 
2021-03-02 9:18:02 AM  
Wait, they found a beneficial use for Microsoft Edge?

/DNRTFA
 
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