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(University of Sydney)   Compulsory team building events tend to foster resentment, and lots of pretend value from HR   (sydney.edu.au) divider line
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2021-03-01 10:49:52 AM  
Those can be voluntary?
 
2021-03-01 10:55:11 AM  
Pizza and drinks at the local pool hall has always been effective in my experience.
 
2021-03-01 11:02:57 AM  
Team-building and trust are easy.

Demonstrate that you are competent to do your job, and I will trust you.

That's it.

That you for coming to my TED talk.
 
2021-03-01 11:04:37 AM  
I had a "team building" event where we helped our boss move. It was as fun as it sounds.
 
2021-03-01 11:13:07 AM  

morg: I had a "team building" event where we helped our boss move. It was as fun as it sounds.


I used to work for the state. I heard so many stories about "team building events" that were actually Amway pitches, or kids' piano recitals, or church recruitment drives, etc.

At my current job, one time we all just went out in the middle of the day for ice cream. Boss's treat. That was nice.
 
2021-03-01 11:16:18 AM  

Fabric_Man: morg: I had a "team building" event where we helped our boss move. It was as fun as it sounds.

I used to work for the state. I heard so many stories about "team building events" that were actually Amway pitches, or kids' piano recitals, or church recruitment drives, etc.

At my current job, one time we all just went out in the middle of the day for ice cream. Boss's treat. That was nice.


IT had to rush to install all those keyloggers!
 
2021-03-01 11:21:40 AM  
if you have to rebuild/reenforce team morale yearly then either A. someone(s) on the team needs to be fired or reprimanded B. The team leader is anything but.

I always amazes me that it's a universal known that group projects always result in 1 person doing 80% a few other people doing 10% of the other work and the remaining people just kinda showing up and taking credit...

And as a species we decided that was exactly how all work should be??

Frankly, you could shave off 1/3rd of any major company by booting the majority of middle managers but someone has to hire the bosses 3rd nephew twice removed while he "finds himself"...likely in rehab
 
2021-03-01 11:21:51 AM  

FrancoFile: Team-building and trust are easy.

Demonstrate that you are competent to do your job, and I will trust you.

That's it.

That you for coming to my TED talk.


I'd add "don't take credit for projects you didn't do", and "don't shift the blame for your screw up every time".
 
2021-03-01 11:25:17 AM  
I think the key is that the special events can't cover for faults in trust & team dynamics during normal work activities. You can make them appealing enough for people to voluntarily participate, but they can only extend or reinforce a healthy work environment. They aren't going to undo any problems.
 
2021-03-01 11:34:28 AM  

edmo: Those can be voluntary?


They can be, but you'll never hear that part.
 
2021-03-01 11:37:26 AM  
I worked at a start-up that was BIG into this crap. They took us go-karting, picnics in the park, BBQs, free lunches every week (onsite and off), and they even took the entire company on a weekend fishing trip. It was great. It wasn't so great, however, when they went bankrupt.
 
2021-03-01 11:37:52 AM  
I was part of a few companies with mandatory team building or lunches or dinner parties (Xmas parties).

I would keep telling my partners that no one wants to go. They told me that I didn't understand my team (developers).

Finally one day in November the partners where planning the next expensive Xmas party. I stood up and ask the room of Dev....so would you rather have a half day off before Xmas or attend an office Xmas party?

That year we had the happiest employees and we saved money to boot by skipping out on forced participation.
 
2021-03-01 11:42:44 AM  
a company I worked for once had a big team building event offsite in a swanky resort for people at a certain level and above.  The people at the lower levels who actually performed the work didn't need team building, they needed to STFU and get back to work...
 
2021-03-01 11:47:28 AM  
I'd always think, "Why don't they use the money they spent on this in a productive manner?" and then just being glad that it's time off my soul-crushing job.
 
2021-03-01 12:17:44 PM  
Worked night shift for a couple of years for a big company.  Every spring and fall they had a mandatory event like this and always held it at noon.  We tried multiple times to tell them if they wanted us there they needed to give us that night off to compensate for f*cked up sleep schedules.  They never did.  A few of us tried calling out sick but they found other ways to screw us.
 
2021-03-01 12:42:45 PM  
When it tries too hard it can be pretty awful.

When it's just a hangout with some food & drink and low-key mellow fun, it's A-OK.

Takes a light touch to do it well.
 
2021-03-01 1:10:54 PM  
We call it "lunch at a bar"
 
2021-03-01 1:20:33 PM  
Glad the obvious tag we used here, but this may have necessitated the introduction of the "No Shiat Sherlock" tag.  Its one thing when the company agrees to foot the bill for the team to go out for a nice lunch and maybe an afternoon at a bowling alley.  Basically if the company makes it seem more like a reward celebration for a job well done.

But the few times I've had to attend those team building seminars.  Yeah, I have never despised my manager more than in those moments.
 
2021-03-01 1:44:03 PM  
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2021-03-01 1:47:44 PM  
I was recently invited to something like this, but it was called "employee wellness." I informed my supervisor (who has nothing to do with these events) that my wellness would not improve by hanging out with co-workers and doing trust falls or whatever. He laughed and said he wasn't going either.

If I have to attend another retreat where we examine our mission statement and values as an institution I don't know what I will do. It's just insane. One of the execs suggested we have "email free days" where we logout of Outlook and work on other things. Excellent idea, mam! I'll have 200 emails the next day instead. Good grief.
 
2021-03-01 3:31:31 PM  

zeroflight222: Worked night shift for a couple of years for a big company.  Every spring and fall they had a mandatory event like this and always held it at noon.  We tried multiple times to tell them if they wanted us there they needed to give us that night off to compensate for f*cked up sleep schedules.  They never did.  A few of us tried calling out sick but they found other ways to screw us.


I worked nights in a lab. Day shift (workers and management) had cake for my birthday on their time. When I arrived at 3:00 pm to start working, my boss told me in passing that it had been a great time and my slice of cake was in the lab fridge, and I could eat it on my dinner break later.

They --hated-- me.

The feeling was mutual.
 
2021-03-02 9:41:08 AM  
HR and people advocating these are usually extroverts.
 
2021-03-02 8:43:47 PM  
Benefits of team building


good one.
 
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