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2021-03-01 8:57:44 AM  
"Are you ready for the rebirth of thebbbbbbbbbllllllbbbbbbnnmmmmmpppsssh​hhhht____"

[Dafuq? Oh shiat, it ate the tape again. Hand me that pencil....]
 
2021-03-01 9:10:28 AM  
Why?  Why would I want to move back to tape?
 
2021-03-01 9:22:39 AM  
I literally this weekend just threw out a bunch of cassette tapes. One of my boys is into vinyl, and I'm willing to tolerate that. I personally remember skips and wear and wow and flutter. MP3s are just fine. But hey, you want vinyl, whatever.

Cassette tapes sucked. All the disadvantages of vinyl, plus crappier sound.
 
2021-03-01 9:23:53 AM  
*throws cassette at subby's head* Duck! Tape!
 
2021-03-01 9:26:33 AM  
The only advantage cassettes every had was convenience/durability. They even had those advantages over CDs.

But these days? Why? Why would you? You Are Not Starlord.
 
2021-03-01 9:28:18 AM  
I'm ready!!!

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2021-03-01 9:33:52 AM  
I don't think it's cassettes that's being missed.
I think it's the experience.

As much as I like Spotify I find the temptation to bounce around between tracks is way too easy for me.  I've been romanticizing the days where I would load up the 5 CD changer bookshelf system with complimentary albums and then would let them run in order for hours and just enjoy the experience.

Sure, I can do that on Spotify.  But there's a Bluetooth speaker that disconnects and it's rigged up to my phone which gets interrupted by text messages and email notifications and then I have to be somewhere else in the house.....

It's just a different experience being forced by some level of inconvenience to listen to songs in a certain order.  No one really likes rewinding the tapes or dealing with the hiss or the player eating one randomly or trying to save it with a pencil.....but that was just part of listening and hearing something as a whole, expectantly waiting for "Selling The Drama"  to start after "The Dam At Otter Creek" or the beginning riff of "Hangar 18" after "Holy Wars."

The appeal is an appliance that just plays music in a sequence at length where it's more of a pain in the ass than it's worth to mess with it to change it.

You don't really miss cassettes.  You miss the ADHD that modern connected life has brought you to and the records that were crafted to be experienced a certain way.
 
2021-03-01 9:38:28 AM  
Speaking for myself, I can no longer read the liner notes on a cassette tape at my advanced age, so screw that.
 
2021-03-01 9:39:03 AM  
Huzzah!  Now is the time for a return of the Commadore 64 as well!  Time to wear out the joystick playing Summer Games.

/ Wear Out The Joystick Playing Summer Games =/= title of my sex tape
 
2021-03-01 9:42:02 AM  
Nobody in their right mind wants to listen to music / sounds with a subdued "sssssssssss" in the background.
 
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2021-03-01 9:45:23 AM  
Personally, I'm staying one step ahead and stocking up on Tiger Hit Clips players.
 
2021-03-01 9:47:42 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Nobody in their right mind wants to listen to music / sounds with a subdued "sssssssssss" in the background.


I do hope you're being sarcastic.  Vinyl never seems to go away.
 
2021-03-01 9:52:10 AM  

BizarreMan: Why?  Why would I want to move back to tape?


For me it was to listen to a friend's black metal band
 
2021-03-01 10:00:07 AM  
Speaking as someone with a bunch of 80's cassettes still stashed away, I say bring it on!   If someone wants to pay more than I did for my original Master of Puppets cassette, more power to them!
 
2021-03-01 10:01:43 AM  
I wouldn't mind a decent cassette player so I can listen to the mix tapes I spent nights making (assuming they are still playable after spending 20 years in my garage).

CarnySaur: no longer read the liner notes on a cassette tape at my advanced age, so screw that.


My son is into vinyl and one of the first things I noticed is I can read the lyrics.
 
2021-03-01 10:01:46 AM  

Khellendros: Dr Jack Badofsky: Nobody in their right mind wants to listen to music / sounds with a subdued "sssssssssss" in the background.

I do hope you're being sarcastic.  Vinyl never seems to go away.


Like I said, Nobody in their right mind....
 
2021-03-01 10:07:18 AM  

BizarreMan: Why?  Why would I want to move back to tape?


With vinyl you at least have the added bonus of the beautiful album artwork that you see from some artists that you can enjoy. Depending on how it has been encoded, the sound quality can be superior to digital formats with vinyl.

Cassettes have neither of these. It is always vinyl style artwork compressed and reformatted to fit inside of that little stupid jacket and that wonderful little hissing sound that you hear is a feature not a bug.

Cuz that's where a stepping stone to Portable music. We now have that portable music, I have 1500 songs on my phone right now and I have no intention of going back to cassettes.

I am selectively picking up vinyl releases of older albums when I find it. Half of that is pure Nostalgia and half of it is wanting to hear the original sound without compression.
 
2021-03-01 10:08:42 AM  

Skarekrough: I don't think it's cassettes that's being missed.
I think it's the experience.

As much as I like Spotify I find the temptation to bounce around between tracks is way too easy for me.  I've been romanticizing the days where I would load up the 5 CD changer bookshelf system with complimentary albums and then would let them run in order for hours and just enjoy the experience.

Sure, I can do that on Spotify.  But there's a Bluetooth speaker that disconnects and it's rigged up to my phone which gets interrupted by text messages and email notifications and then I have to be somewhere else in the house.....

It's just a different experience being forced by some level of inconvenience to listen to songs in a certain order.  No one really likes rewinding the tapes or dealing with the hiss or the player eating one randomly or trying to save it with a pencil.....but that was just part of listening and hearing something as a whole, expectantly waiting for "Selling The Drama"  to start after "The Dam At Otter Creek" or the beginning riff of "Hangar 18" after "Holy Wars."

The appeal is an appliance that just plays music in a sequence at length where it's more of a pain in the ass than it's worth to mess with it to change it.

You don't really miss cassettes.  You miss the ADHD that modern connected life has brought you to and the records that were crafted to be experienced a certain way.


You make one heck of a case for "it's better because it was a big inconvenience".

Can't say I totally disagree, however, I don't miss spending hours and hours waiting for a local radio station to play my song, just so I could record it.
 
2021-03-01 10:10:51 AM  
I still sometimes listen to my old mix-tapes, recordings of old radio talk shows, that sort of thing, on k-sette. It's just another medium to use so I don't see why folks hate on them so much. Lots of folks have no experience with cassettes so there's no need for theose folks to use them. But for some of us it's a nice way to travel into the past.

I can't see them making a comeback, though. That's just silly.
 
2021-03-01 10:12:47 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Nobody in their right mind wants to listen to music / sounds with a subdued "sssssssssss" in the background.


For those of us with our own Tinnitus we already do.....
 
2021-03-01 10:13:06 AM  
I still have my cassette tape collection. I bought the damn albums once and I didn't want to spend the money to buy them again.

/still have a cassette player too
 
2021-03-01 10:15:24 AM  

swankywanky: I'm ready!!!

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2021-03-01 10:17:46 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Nobody in their right mind wants to listen to music / sounds with a subdued "sssssssssss" in the background.


When I worked in a music store, there was a time when it seemed trendy to deliberately put that noise into albums, for nostalgic reasons, I guess? Or to make it seem like you'd found some priceless underground recording. I remember a few angry customers returning CDs because of it. They thought the CDs were defective. I had to explain why the didn't sound like flawless studio recordings.
 
2021-03-01 10:21:46 AM  
HOW ELSE WILL I RE-LIVE MY HIGH SCHOOL YEARS WITHOUT MY ALL-METALLICA MIXTAPE?!?!
 
2021-03-01 10:26:43 AM  
I was just at a record store yesterday and they had a section for new casettes. I just kind of stared blankly at it wondering why.
 
2021-03-01 10:32:59 AM  
I grew up on cassette tapes. From September 1982 to 1992 I had Sony Walkman headphones glue to my head almost every waking moment and I used to buy 90 minute Maxell tapes by the carton. By 1988 I had about 500+ full albums and assorted mix tapes. I loved cassettes: They had the portability that records and reel to reel could never offer, were cheap, and were more convenient than 8 track. Even when CDs came out and became affordable, the cassette was still the winner for personal portability.

But portability was their only real gimmick and digital music players offer that and much, much more. The only reason to revisit cassettes is nostalgia.
 
2021-03-01 10:34:47 AM  
Cassettes were OK when I was in high school (Late 70's) because my friends and I could tape each others albums.  Sure, there were a lot of decisions to make.  Normal or CrO2 tape.  Flick the Dolby button and lose the high end or live with the hiss.  What song to skip if the album was longer than 45 minutes.  I've gone back to vinyl for a lot of reasons, most of them nostalgic. I have no nostalgia for the cassette though.
 
2021-03-01 10:44:39 AM  
making someone a mix-tape is infinitely cooler than making them a playlist, but not cool enough to make me use cassettes again.
 
2021-03-01 10:45:49 AM  

Rev.K: HOW ELSE WILL I RE-LIVE MY HIGH SCHOOL YEARS WITHOUT MY ALL-METALLICA MIXTAPE?!?!


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A fond memory of my teenage days is spending early sunday mornings listening to albums all the way through on headphones while the rest of the house was asleep.  The first Black Sabbath album got a lot of plays, as did Holy Diver and Mob Rules.
 
2021-03-01 10:47:02 AM  
Even as an admitted vinyl enthusiast, tape can fark right off.
 
2021-03-01 10:50:48 AM  
Up next.

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2021-03-01 10:55:35 AM  

sorceror: I literally this weekend just threw out a bunch of cassette tapes. One of my boys is into vinyl, and I'm willing to tolerate that. I personally remember skips and wear and wow and flutter. MP3s are just fine. But hey, you want vinyl, whatever.

Cassette tapes sucked. All the disadvantages of vinyl, plus crappier sound.


Depends on the equipment. If you are talking about the pre-recorded tapes that the record companies paid $0.05 for the blank, then yes, nothing can make them sound decent. Now, I have some that sound good because they were recorded on high-end CrO2 tape, with my Advent 201 deck. Depending on the car deck used for play back, sometimes the DBX 128 came in to play.
 
2021-03-01 10:57:35 AM  
I have a few
 
2021-03-01 11:02:11 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Up next.

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No shiat.
 
2021-03-01 11:10:03 AM  
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2021-03-01 11:11:56 AM  
This does seem like a nostalgia thing. And on the scale of "Who does it hurt?", it ranks pretty low.

I know a lot of Deadheads with great tapes out there that might be stoked. I'm not one of them.

I invested in a low end turntable because my SO, who still actively mourns Bowie, bought several vinyl albums from his catalog. I've played the Dead's Europe '72 enough that she is getting annoyed, but she hasn't played one of her albums yet. I may try to pick up some newer releases exclusive to vinyl, such as 3rd Man Records.


/I do miss the days of editing R2R with a wax pen and a razor though. Razor blades were useful in all kinds of '80s fun...
//Also worked for a service verifying commercial airplay on radio stations, so being able to listen to the fast forwarded R2R and glean when programming was interrupted for commercials was critical.
///I can also produce a mean buggy whip if the market ever opens back up. OK, I know there is some market for them, but I'm not pursuing that currently.
 
2021-03-01 11:21:14 AM  
Still have several dozen around. I play them and every one that acts up or squeals goes in the trash. They were nice back in the day.
 
2021-03-01 11:22:21 AM  
No!  It was difficult to find a dbx (noise reduction) decoder for my car, and damned near impossible to find one for my walkman.
 
2021-03-01 11:24:02 AM  
At this point, you only buy those for the collectible value. You want an object to feel in your hands. That's nice.

As for me, well, I've got a Deezer account (the French spotify), and I love it because I've got access to far more music than ever before. I've discovered tons of musics and artists because of the automatic playlists and suggestions.
20 years ago, I had about 150 CDs (yeah, not that much). When you are not a compulsive music buyer like some people, you tend to always listen to the same thing after a while. Streaming has been a godsend to me : variety for cheap, and low efforts.
 
2021-03-01 11:24:12 AM  
Well, I believe it.  Cassettes have been "making a comeback" for about twenty years now.
 
2021-03-01 11:24:29 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Up next.

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The place I work has a buttload of those I need to maintain, a good dozen 9-track drives and a punchcard reader.  Not to mention several of the less-popular tape drive formats.
 
2021-03-01 11:28:06 AM  
My kids tried to convince me to get a cassette deck last year, not long after I bought my record player.  But I'd want blank tapes to go along with it.  I'd want to show them the glory of recording songs off of the radio.  I'd go one better and create a mix tape by plugging in from the headphone jack to the microphone jack of the cassette deck, and play MP3s onto it.
 
2021-03-01 11:28:38 AM  
I've just got to tell someone, I can't hold it in anymore, it's eating me up.  Of course I could tell if it was live or if it

was Memorex.  Any fool could.
 
2021-03-01 11:28:45 AM  
Do you miss music on cassette? Then you can simulate it here. Press the Eject button, load up an MP3 of your favorite 1970s or 1980s song, and experience all the splendor of listening to a lossy form of media that actually destroyed itself more and more with each playback!

Twiddle the dials and get the sound you remember from your own crappy tape player in the 80s.

Ahhh... the nostalgia. The Cure's Head on the Door on CD just doesn't quite sound the same as we remember it without all that hiss, warbling, and dropped bass that cassette provided.
 
2021-03-01 11:29:40 AM  
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2021-03-01 11:29:46 AM  

rummonkey: BizarreMan:

I am selectively picking up vinyl releases of older albums when I find it. Half of that is pure Nostalgia and half of it is wanting to hear the original sound without compression.


Exactly. I choose what recordings I want on Vinyl based on the same criteria I use for purchasing a Hardback book. If it's new material, do I really love the artist? If it's back catalogue, is it something I've enjoyed in the past in other formats and now I want to make the commitment to repurchasing simply for the format experience?

I've own multiple editions of American Gods, starting with the Paperback.

In the same vein, I've had Dark Side of the Moon on CD, digital, and now Vinyl.
 
2021-03-01 11:30:09 AM  

padraig: You want an object to feel in your hands. That's nice.


I do. That's why I still buy CDs. Most of the time that I'm listening, it's a digital copy on my phone, but I still like to buy the physical CD. There's something about it that's missing from owning just a digital version. Of course, annoyingly, more and more music isn't being released on CD.

I don't why people would go back to cassettes though. CDs are better in pretty much every way.
 
2021-03-01 11:35:24 AM  

jj325: Cassettes were OK when I was in high school (Late 70's) because my friends and I could tape each others albums.  Sure, there were a lot of decisions to make.  Normal or CrO2 tape.  Flick the Dolby button and lose the high end or live with the hiss.  What song to skip if the album was longer than 45 minutes.  I've gone back to vinyl for a lot of reasons, most of them nostalgic. I have no nostalgia for the cassette though.


Before it was renamed to Best Buy, the local sound retailer was called Sound of Music (I never have figured out how they got away with that, but I figure that when they were going to go national, the lawyers had them rename to Best Buy). The most ethical salesman I ever met, John Lundberg, worked there. Zero pressure. Listened to what you wanted, and what you could afford. Almost everything he sold to me turned out to be a classic, best value, piece of equipment. Large Advent speakers, Kenwood receiver, Pioneer PL-51 turntable, Advent 201 cassette deck.
I never left vinyl, but haven't played any cassettes for a while, but I suspect they have deteriorated and sound like crap.
CSB: I had the PL-51 on backorder. John calls me up, and says he has good news, bad news, and better news.
"The turntable is coming in. I canceled your order. It goes on sale this weekend for $20 less than you paid, so I wrote up a new order for you". He transferred to the downtown Best Buy, and I lost track of him after a few years.
 
2021-03-01 11:38:42 AM  
I knew it was only a matter of time before this happened. While I 100% appreciate physical media in this age of DRM terrorism this isn't the way to go.

Look, I get being into vinyl. A lot of the music made before the industry farked up the audio quality with dynamic range compression was on vinyl. That plus the other reasons mentioned above.

You see this a lot with VHS heads (not the player heads) too. Between the box art and a lot of movies falling into the void of time for lack of distributor, ect. But at the end of the day it's never about the quality of the product.

It's a combination of nostalgia and being terrified about the direction the world is going. After the last 4 years EVERYONE feels like they've been on a permanent rollercoaster and are desperately clinging to any rock in the storm. Some people latch onto hatred and bigotry while others dive head first into the media of the past. This is just another extension of that. Frantically grasping at "A Simpler Era" in the futile attempt to slow the ebb of time.
 
2021-03-01 11:40:42 AM  

dionysusaur: No!  It was difficult to find a dbx (noise reduction) decoder for my car, and damned near impossible to find one for my walkman.


If the car deck didn't have Dolby NR, you could try to use the DBX to reduce the dynamic range enough to make the noise less objectionable. I hated having to have two sets of tapes, one for the house, and one for the cars.
 
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