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(Jalopnik)   Can you keep any airplane parts that fall in your yard? We asked a falling-airplane-yard-parts lawyer   (jalopnik.com) divider line
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2021-02-28 7:59:35 PM  
You don't want an aluminum fire pit. Bad analogy on the writers part.
 
2021-02-28 8:09:51 PM  
Settle down Donnie
 
2021-02-28 8:19:31 PM  
But if I pee on it, it's mine, right?
 
2021-02-28 8:50:05 PM  
So the precedent of finders keepers does not apply.
 
2021-02-28 8:59:19 PM  
If a car runs off the road onto my property, do I get to keep the car?

Do you really need to contact a lawyer to figure this one out?
 
2021-02-28 8:59:33 PM  
The FAA has no sense of humor when it comes to plane crashes.  They get upset if you even keep, like, an arm that no one is using any more.  None.
 
2021-02-28 9:00:16 PM  

NeoCortex42: If a car runs off the road onto my property, do I get to keep the car?

Do you really need to contact a lawyer to figure this one out?


Is it a nice car?

Did anyone see it go off the road?

/yeah i'm in pa so what
 
2021-02-28 9:10:44 PM  

OdradekRex: So the precedent of finders keepers does not apply.


It does apply except to the actual owner. So your neighbor can't take it but United Air can. Even the precedent of calling dibs loses to the owner as does calling shotgun or licking it.
 
2021-02-28 9:19:39 PM  
Why would you want it?
 
2021-02-28 9:28:48 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The FAA has no sense of humor when it comes to plane crashes.  They get upset if you even keep, like, an arm that no one is using any more.  None.


On a more serious note: Initially, the NTSB tried to back-bite Sully with simulations of landing the plane at La Guardia or Teterboro. They, initially, didn't include the 35 seconds Sully took to Mayday and radio for instruction.
 
2021-02-28 9:45:24 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The FAA has no sense of humor when it comes to plane crashes.  They get upset if you even keep, like, an arm that no one is using any more.  None.


Tell that to Armie Hammer.
 
2021-02-28 10:00:26 PM  

iheartscotch: Why would you want it?


When I was a little kid, we were stationed at Offutt.  One of my friends had a B-47 drag chute land in his yard once.  He thought he had scored a great summer tent, but the APs came and made him give it back.
 
2021-02-28 11:16:50 PM  
Donnie Darko's family got a sweet deal the first time around, and, one suspects, a much sweeter deal the second time around.
 
2021-02-28 11:19:02 PM  

iheartscotch: Why would you want it?


I think someone on Fark made a suggestion that the front cowling would be useful as a "cock ring", or whatever you kids call it nowadays.
 
2021-02-28 11:42:04 PM  

NeoCortex42: If a car runs off the road onto my property, do I get to keep the car?

Do you really need to contact a lawyer to figure this one out?


Of course not - you can only keep the driver.
 
2021-03-01 12:04:45 AM  
Accidentally dropping something on the ground immediately terminates any legal claim you have to that item.

I learned this from my dog.
 
2021-03-01 12:17:42 AM  

NeoCortex42: If a car runs off the road onto my property, do I get to keep the car?

Do you really need to contact a lawyer to figure this one out?


But I was told possession was 9/10 of the law!

So, I hold 90% ownership in the car.
 
2021-03-01 12:24:03 AM  
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/ it's a thorny legal issue, all right
 
2021-03-01 12:28:28 AM  
Possession is half the law.

I had my routine before all y'all.
 
2021-03-01 12:33:38 AM  
I think I'd rather sue them for gross negligence.
 
2021-03-01 12:36:35 AM  
kinda would have been more interested to know if you can sue the airline for possible loss of value to the property since it's smack under a flightpath and the debris made national news.
 
2021-03-01 12:37:26 AM  
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2021-03-01 2:26:51 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The FAA has no sense of humor when it comes to plane crashes.  They get upset if you even keep, like, an arm that no one is using any more.  None.


FTA ; A general precept of the law of lost property is that a finder of property acquires no rights in mislaid property, is entitled to possession of lost property against everyone except the true owner, and is entitled to keep abandoned property.

Well, it would seem that if you have rights against everyone but the true owner, and the true owner doesn't exist anymore - free arm!
 
2021-03-01 2:29:05 AM  

elvisaintdead: Marcus Aurelius: The FAA has no sense of humor when it comes to plane crashes.  They get upset if you even keep, like, an arm that no one is using any more.  None.

Tell that to Armie Hammer.


I know he's a real person, but that sounds like a bad attempt at a fake name.
 
2021-03-01 2:50:27 AM  

Dryad: Marcus Aurelius: The FAA has no sense of humor when it comes to plane crashes.  They get upset if you even keep, like, an arm that no one is using any more.  None.

FTA ; A general precept of the law of lost property is that a finder of property acquires no rights in mislaid property, is entitled to possession of lost property against everyone except the true owner, and is entitled to keep abandoned property.

Well, it would seem that if you have rights against everyone but the true owner, and the true owner doesn't exist anymore - free arm!


Somewhat weirdly I can say with entire seriousness the law already covers that.  The arm's legal owner is the estate of the deceased.  Even the amendments have to bow to basic inheritance law.

/what I'm saying is you don't always have the right to spare arms
 
2021-03-01 3:41:32 AM  
If I fart on your property by all means keep it.
 
2021-03-01 5:22:55 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: NeoCortex42: If a car runs off the road onto my property, do I get to keep the car?

Do you really need to contact a lawyer to figure this one out?

Is it a nice car?

Did anyone see it go off the road?

/yeah i'm in pa so what


Ma might be upset.
 
2021-03-01 5:36:18 AM  

dittybopper: Marcus Aurelius: NeoCortex42: If a car runs off the road onto my property, do I get to keep the car?

Do you really need to contact a lawyer to figure this one out?

Is it a nice car?

Did anyone see it go off the road?

/yeah i'm in pa so what

Ma might be upset.


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2021-03-01 6:47:17 AM  

NeoCortex42: If a car runs off the road onto my property, do I get to keep the car?

Do you really need to contact a lawyer to figure this one out?


What if I murdered the occupants of the car, buried their corpses in the backyard, and scratched the VIN off the engine block and chassis? Do I get to keep the car then?
 
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2021-03-01 9:24:49 AM  

2fardownthread: iheartscotch: Why would you want it?

I think someone on Fark made a suggestion that the front cowling would be useful as a "cock ring", or whatever you kids call it nowadays.


Kinda small for a cock ring.
 
2021-03-01 10:41:33 AM  

OdradekRex: So the precedent of finders keepers does not apply.


That may deepend on who was weeping and when.
 
2021-03-01 11:30:51 AM  
I go by the rules of flotsam and jetsam. These parts would be considered flotsam, and thus still belong to the original owner (though I am entitled to a salvage fee, per the gold-fringed flag dictate in the admirality court).

Should an aircraft intentionally jettison something in order to remain airborne, I am entitled to keep it as it falls under jetsam.
 
2021-03-01 11:59:29 AM  
If nobody knows you have it, and the original owner doesn't ask you for it back, I think you can keep it without worrying about getting in trouble. Just make sure it isn't a booby trapped plane part with a glitter bomb and fart spray in it.
 
2021-03-01 12:02:57 PM  
 
2021-03-01 12:08:30 PM  

Sexy Jesus: 2fardownthread: iheartscotch: Why would you want it?

I think someone on Fark made a suggestion that the front cowling would be useful as a "cock ring", or whatever you kids call it nowadays.

Kinda small for a cock ring.


Ain't nobody got a chicken that big.
 
2021-03-01 8:06:11 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The FAA has no sense of humor when it comes to plane crashes.  They get upset if you even keep, like, an arm that no one is using any more.  None.


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2021-03-01 8:21:49 PM  

eKonk: Should an aircraft intentionally jettison something in order to remain airborne, I am entitled to keep it as it falls under jetsam.


I don't understand how the offloading of cargo in an emergency somehow makes it yours.

What if the owners plan on coming back for it?
 
2021-03-01 8:38:18 PM  

studebaker hoch: Marcus Aurelius: The FAA has no sense of humor when it comes to plane crashes.  They get upset if you even keep, like, an arm that no one is using any more.  None.

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Lol oh that's terrible.

/funnied
 
2021-03-01 8:40:29 PM  

studebaker hoch: eKonk: Should an aircraft intentionally jettison something in order to remain airborne, I am entitled to keep it as it falls under jetsam.

I don't understand how the offloading of cargo in an emergency somehow makes it yours.

What if the owners plan on coming back for it?


If it's vital to an investigation of a plane crash, authorities will offer sizeable rewards for critical pieces of the aircraft.
 
2021-03-01 8:43:00 PM  

studebaker hoch: eKonk: Should an aircraft intentionally jettison something in order to remain airborne, I am entitled to keep it as it falls under jetsam.

I don't understand how the offloading of cargo in an emergency somehow makes it yours.

What if the owners plan on coming back for it?


Look, I told the cop I wasn't littering, I was planning to go back and pick that stuff up, but I still got the ticket.

And when I dropped stuff off at the self-storage locker, they made me pay them before they let me come back in and pick it up.

I don't make up the rules, I just.....wait, no, I do make them up. No one usually pays any attention though, so I don't usually have to explain them if someone brings up a logical objection.
 
2021-03-01 10:20:35 PM  

studebaker hoch: Marcus Aurelius: The FAA has no sense of humor when it comes to plane crashes.  They get upset if you even keep, like, an arm that no one is using any more.  None.

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Introducing people to PBF is a real friendship make or break moment.
 
2021-03-02 12:18:23 PM  

Bathtub Cynic: Introducing people to PBF is a real friendship make or break moment.


Achewood.
 
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