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2021-02-28 5:33:32 PM  
So a few people have to ruin it for everyone?
 
2021-02-28 5:37:36 PM  
How the hell is this even legal?

Some older people have their meds mailed to them ffs.
 
2021-02-28 6:02:09 PM  
This sounds a little excessive and heavily punishes many people who are following protocols and putting the older ones into increased risk making them travel through winter conditions just to get their mail.  Photographing and fining the maskless plague rats should be the resolution here.
 
2021-02-28 6:38:50 PM  

BumpInTheNight: This sounds a little excessive and heavily punishes many people who are following protocols and putting the older ones into increased risk making them travel through winter conditions just to get their mail.  Photographing and fining the maskless plague rats should be the resolution here.


Canada Post isn't doing this to punish people, and they wouldn't have any authority to impose fines on people; they're just protecting employees from an unsafe work environment. Photographing people wouldn't render airborne viruses inactive.
 
2021-02-28 7:44:02 PM  

T Baggins: BumpInTheNight: This sounds a little excessive and heavily punishes many people who are following protocols and putting the older ones into increased risk making them travel through winter conditions just to get their mail.  Photographing and fining the maskless plague rats should be the resolution here.

Canada Post isn't doing this to punish people, and they wouldn't have any authority to impose fines on people; they're just protecting employees from an unsafe work environment. Photographing people wouldn't render airborne viruses inactive.


I know its not being done to openly punish, but the action is still punishing a lot of people who are complying with the protocols.  And I know Canada Post employees cannot issue the fines, but the people they speak to when they call 311 to report mask violations sure can send someone who does.  Repeat as needed until the plague rats comply.

Unsafe work environment be damned, make this carrier do their trip into that building's mail room in a hazmat suit if needed, they're pulling up with a mail truck no doubt, easy to keep one stashed.

We all have to face situations where we're brushing closer then we'd like with a maskhole, it sucks, but in this case its better then making the likely hundreds of people who live in that building have to go far off to another just to get their mail.
 
2021-02-28 8:11:34 PM  
Pictured: probable dumbass, who is mad

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2021-02-28 8:11:54 PM  
In Alberta they specifically excluded apartment buildings from mask laws. Canada Post can do whatever the fark they want as far as I'm concerned. 99.9% of their job is delivering junk mail.
 
2021-02-28 8:13:13 PM  
Wasn't this a Fiest song?
 
2021-02-28 8:13:33 PM  

mateomaui: Pictured: probable dumbass, who is mad

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Looks like a mask under the nose type to me.
 
2021-02-28 8:14:11 PM  
FTFAStanciu said most of the residents wear masks in common areas and he noted that there are exemptions to mask wearing under the bylaw. He said there is no question that the building is safe.

This kind of uninformed-yet-wildly-overconfident statement drives me nuts.
 
2021-02-28 8:14:59 PM  

skatedrifter: How the hell is this even legal?

Some older people have their meds mailed to them ffs.


Unions!
 
2021-02-28 8:16:40 PM  
I like to stand at the window with my dog and give them the most excited OMGICANTWAITTOOPENIT look while they drop my parcels at the door.  I'm sure they appreciate the effort I put in.
 
2021-02-28 8:17:26 PM  
Solution:
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And tase anybody who approaches while filling the mailbox.

/wish the postal workers here would wear masks
 
2021-02-28 8:19:17 PM  
Keep your government hands off my mail.
 
2021-02-28 8:21:34 PM  

stuffy: Keep your government hands off my mail.


....they deliver it to you.
 
2021-02-28 8:26:11 PM  
Hey if they want to store junk mail that's their call.
 
2021-02-28 8:27:44 PM  

mateomaui: stuffy: Keep your government hands off my mail.

....they deliver it to you.


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"We need to reach across the aisle and find bipartisan solutions to our shared problems."
/see also, aggressive voter suppression efforts
 
2021-02-28 8:27:45 PM  

T Baggins: BumpInTheNight: This sounds a little excessive and heavily punishes many people who are following protocols and putting the older ones into increased risk making them travel through winter conditions just to get their mail.  Photographing and fining the maskless plague rats should be the resolution here.

Canada Post isn't doing this to punish people, and they wouldn't have any authority to impose fines on people; they're just protecting employees from an unsafe work environment. Photographing people wouldn't render airborne viruses inactive.


I don't fart in crowded elevators to punish people, I do it because I enjoy their helplessness.
 
2021-02-28 8:34:10 PM  

skatedrifter: How the hell is this even legal?

Some older people have their meds mailed to them ffs.


Worker protection laws REQUIRE it. Maybe the plague rats should follow the goddamn law.
 
2021-02-28 8:37:04 PM  
The carrier here doesn't wear her mask properly. You'd think she would as there is the constant reminder of the girl that died from COVID in the mail room.

A Christmas card was put in the wrong box so it sits on top of the boxes now. Someone thought it would be a good idea to open it for the dead girl.
 
2021-02-28 8:37:16 PM  

BumpInTheNight: This sounds a little excessive and heavily punishes many people who are following protocols and putting the older ones into increased risk making them travel through winter conditions just to get their mail.  Photographing and fining the maskless plague rats should be the resolution here.


Of the people who need their mail could always shame, otherwise socially pressure, sue, beat up, or lynch the Plague Rats. That would also work.
 
2021-02-28 8:43:30 PM  
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JUST STFU & WEAR IT IF YOU LEAVE YOUR OWN PERSONAL SPACE.......aka your home or car after that just put it on & live another day above ground instead of a pile of ashes that were scatteredto the 4 winds etc..........
 
2021-02-28 8:46:32 PM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: The carrier here doesn't wear her mask properly. You'd think she would as there is the constant reminder of the girl that died from COVID in the mail room.

A Christmas card was put in the wrong box so it sits on top of the boxes now. Someone thought it would be a good idea to open it for the dead girl.


Fark needs a sad button :(
 
2021-02-28 8:47:19 PM  

NM Volunteer: And tase anybody who approaches while filling the mailbox.

/wish the postal workers here would wear masks


These are apartment buildings, which will likely have mail slots that are filled from the back via a special mail carrier only room. The mail carrier only has to enter the building, go into that room, and then leave.

Given that, for mail carriers to be concerned about their safety in that building something has to be seriously, seriously wrong. Which makes the building's management's response all the more amusing.
 
2021-02-28 8:48:31 PM  
BumpInTheNight:Unsafe work environment be damned, make this carrier do their trip into that building's mail room in a hazmat suit if needed, they're pulling up with a mail truck no doubt, easy to keep one stashed.

Look, I agree with your sentiment, but that's not how hazmat suits work. Someone has to tape you in, you need an oxygen supply or gas mask. Someone has to wash the suit before you take it off, and clean anything the suit came into contact with. Even if you were willing to wear a hazmat suit for your entire rounds, the suit is still a fomite that could carry infection to other buildings. Lesser forms of protective gear don't buy you much.

You can make the case that the risk of entering the building is relatively small and/or is outweighed by the benefit. But a hazmat suit is not practical magic wand that will erase the risk.
 
2021-02-28 8:48:41 PM  
well thats dumb
 
2021-02-28 8:49:44 PM  

trialpha: NM Volunteer: And tase anybody who approaches while filling the mailbox.

/wish the postal workers here would wear masks

These are apartment buildings, which will likely have mail slots that are filled from the back via a special mail carrier only room. The mail carrier only has to enter the building, go into that room, and then leave.

Given that, for mail carriers to be concerned about their safety in that building something has to be seriously, seriously wrong. Which makes the building's management's response all the more amusing.


Yet both urban apartment buildings I lived in had boxes that all opened from the front, so if you went down during mail delivery, you were entirely in the way.
 
2021-02-28 8:52:00 PM  

thepresence: BumpInTheNight: This sounds a little excessive and heavily punishes many people who are following protocols and putting the older ones into increased risk making them travel through winter conditions just to get their mail.  Photographing and fining the maskless plague rats should be the resolution here.

Of the people who need their mail could always shame, otherwise socially pressure, sue, beat up, or lynch the Plague Rats. That would also work.


Yup because angry mobs have done a great job of solving problems in the past year.
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2021-02-28 8:55:37 PM  

trialpha: NM Volunteer: And tase anybody who approaches while filling the mailbox.

/wish the postal workers here would wear masks

These are apartment buildings, which will likely have mail slots that are filled from the back via a special mail carrier only room. The mail carrier only has to enter the building, go into that room, and then leave.

Given that, for mail carriers to be concerned about their safety in that building something has to be seriously, seriously wrong. Which makes the building's management's response all the more amusing.


They could still install those cluster boxes outside instead and stop using the mail room.  I see them in my town for houses in denser neighborhoods, at each corner.
 
2021-02-28 9:00:32 PM  

skatedrifter: How the hell is this even legal?

Some older people have their meds mailed to them ffs.


Is mailing prescription drugs legal in Canada? It's not clear from the Canada Post website, it says mailing drugs in illegal but does not qualify the type of drug, the next sentence talks about canabis.

In any case why would one trust required prescription drugs to the postal service or any shipping company when many pharmacies deliver?
 
2021-02-28 9:01:54 PM  

LindenFark: BumpInTheNight:Unsafe work environment be damned, make this carrier do their trip into that building's mail room in a hazmat suit if needed, they're pulling up with a mail truck no doubt, easy to keep one stashed.

Look, I agree with your sentiment, but that's not how hazmat suits work. Someone has to tape you in, you need an oxygen supply or gas mask. Someone has to wash the suit before you take it off, and clean anything the suit came into contact with. Even if you were willing to wear a hazmat suit for your entire rounds, the suit is still a fomite that could carry infection to other buildings. Lesser forms of protective gear don't buy you much.

You can make the case that the risk of entering the building is relatively small and/or is outweighed by the benefit. But a hazmat suit is not practical magic wand that will erase the risk.


Noted, I guess we're back to giving up and making great granny there take a half hour bus ride to pick up her mail because some postie hasn't got the stones to call 311 on some plague rats.

/if its anything like my old apartment, the lobby was the gathering spot of the grey hairs and most definitely a bunch of them probably aren't the mask-adhering types.
 
2021-02-28 9:02:13 PM  

NM Volunteer: They could still install those cluster boxes outside instead and stop using the mail room. I see them in my town for houses in denser neighborhoods, at each corner.


That box has 16 slots. My building has close to 500 units. And there are similar buildings all along the street. You'd have to line the street with the things.
 
2021-02-28 9:28:36 PM  
Holy fark.  This shiat has gotten really farken stupid.
 
2021-02-28 9:36:39 PM  
Back in May, when I had finally wandered out of my apartment after quarantining for 4 weeks, the postal carrier walked into my lobby while I was out there (masked) watering the plants.  He wasn't wearing a mask.  I told him to step back because I wasn't comfortable and I wanted to get away from him.  He replied "no, you're good". WTF...no I was most certainly not good.  He didn't wear a mask for at least 4 months.  He's wearing a mask now so I assume people complained.


I understand he may have already had Covid at that point and recovered and he may have thought it was safe.  But still, wear the damn mask.
 
2021-02-28 9:40:33 PM  

wantingout: well thats dumb


Yes, it is farking idiotic that people are STILL refusing to wear masks in public spaces and farking over their fellow residents.
 
2021-02-28 9:42:40 PM  
Good. I have friends in high rises and the police and bylaw officers are doing nothing. Toronto is now plague rat central.
 
2021-02-28 9:53:22 PM  

skatedrifter: How the hell is this even legal?

Some older people have their meds mailed to them ffs.


THIS.
 
2021-02-28 10:02:39 PM  

trialpha: NM Volunteer: They could still install those cluster boxes outside instead and stop using the mail room. I see them in my town for houses in denser neighborhoods, at each corner.

That box has 16 slots. My building has close to 500 units. And there are similar buildings all along the street. You'd have to line the street with the things.


Canada Post requires any building with 100+ units to have a locked mailroom (keys are literally not given to the building owner) with rear-loading mail slots.  Again - a dedicated, locked room with rear-loading slots. There's no reason to come into contact with anybody in that scenario.
 
2021-02-28 10:03:36 PM  

mateomaui: Pictured: probable dumbass, who is mad

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Consequences?  For my actions?   But I'm white?!

/Good
 
2021-02-28 10:13:23 PM  
Karen says everyone wears a mask, Keith says some people don't.

Typical TV ' breaking news' reporting. ' We don't know what's going on here, but we will continue to broadcast our opinion until someone makes up the facts.
Back to you Ted.
 
2021-02-28 10:17:20 PM  

slantsix: trialpha: NM Volunteer: They could still install those cluster boxes outside instead and stop using the mail room. I see them in my town for houses in denser neighborhoods, at each corner.

That box has 16 slots. My building has close to 500 units. And there are similar buildings all along the street. You'd have to line the street with the things.

Canada Post requires any building with 100+ units to have a locked mailroom (keys are literally not given to the building owner) with rear-loading mail slots.  Again - a dedicated, locked room with rear-loading slots. There's no reason to come into contact with anybody in that scenario.


Does the mail room have an exterior door, or does the postal worker run a gauntlet of maskless people walking from the front door to the mail room?
 
2021-02-28 10:21:47 PM  

kdawg7736: So a few people have to ruin it for everyone?


Yep.
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2021-02-28 10:24:37 PM  

BumpInTheNight: T Baggins: BumpInTheNight: This sounds a little excessive and heavily punishes many people who are following protocols and putting the older ones into increased risk making them travel through winter conditions just to get their mail.  Photographing and fining the maskless plague rats should be the resolution here.

Canada Post isn't doing this to punish people, and they wouldn't have any authority to impose fines on people; they're just protecting employees from an unsafe work environment. Photographing people wouldn't render airborne viruses inactive.

I know its not being done to openly punish, but the action is still punishing a lot of people who are complying with the protocols.  And I know Canada Post employees cannot issue the fines, but the people they speak to when they call 311 to report mask violations sure can send someone who does.  Repeat as needed until the plague rats comply.

Unsafe work environment be damned, make this carrier do their trip into that building's mail room in a hazmat suit if needed, they're pulling up with a mail truck no doubt, easy to keep one stashed.

We all have to face situations where we're brushing closer then we'd like with a maskhole, it sucks, but in this case its better then making the likely hundreds of people who live in that building have to go far off to another just to get their mail.


Maskholes, awesome! Waaah that person 20 feet away isn't wearing a mask! Waaah!

Yeah, maskholes fits.
 
2021-02-28 10:28:18 PM  

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JUST STFU & WEAR IT IF YOU LEAVE YOUR OWN PERSONAL SPACE.......aka your home or car after that just put it on & live another day above ground instead of a pile of ashes that were scatteredto the 4 winds etc..........


Just stay in your safe spaces. The world is too dangerous.
 
2021-02-28 10:35:47 PM  

trialpha: NM Volunteer: And tase anybody who approaches while filling the mailbox.

/wish the postal workers here would wear masks

These are apartment buildings, which will likely have mail slots that are filled from the back via a special mail carrier only room. The mail carrier only has to enter the building, go into that room, and then leave.

Given that, for mail carriers to be concerned about their safety in that building something has to be seriously, seriously wrong. Which makes the building's management's response all the more amusing.


Something is seriously wrong...in the mail carrier's head.  As you stated, they enter the building, go into the mail room (which only they have access to), shove the mail into the boxes (sometimes even managing to get it into the correct box), and then leave.

Their exposure to anyone in the lobby not wearing a mask is probably all of 5 seconds, but they're a unionized bunch of cry-babies so the apartment residents have to suffer.
 
2021-02-28 10:36:35 PM  
I can wear a mask & still not get mail down here.
 
2021-02-28 10:52:36 PM  

silverjets: trialpha: NM Volunteer: And tase anybody who approaches while filling the mailbox.

/wish the postal workers here would wear masks

These are apartment buildings, which will likely have mail slots that are filled from the back via a special mail carrier only room. The mail carrier only has to enter the building, go into that room, and then leave.

Given that, for mail carriers to be concerned about their safety in that building something has to be seriously, seriously wrong. Which makes the building's management's response all the more amusing.

Something is seriously wrong...in the mail carrier's head.  As you stated, they enter the building, go into the mail room (which only they have access to), shove the mail into the boxes (sometimes even managing to get it into the correct box), and then leave.

Their exposure to anyone in the lobby not wearing a mask is probably all of 5 seconds, but they're a unionized bunch of cry-babies so the apartment residents have to suffer.


The amount of anti union sentiment I've seen during this pandemic from people who generally deny science has more than convinced me unions are needed more than ever.
 
2021-02-28 11:10:17 PM  

NM Volunteer: Solution:
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And tase anybody who approaches while filling the mailbox.

/wish the postal workers here would wear masks


This should be the uniform

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2021-02-28 11:16:11 PM  
Awesome.
 
2021-02-28 11:59:14 PM  
+1 canada
 
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