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2021-02-28 7:45:10 PM  
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2021-02-28 7:49:34 PM  
Those big brass balls are going to freeze.
 
2021-02-28 7:49:59 PM  
I guess I will never understand his desire to return to Russia. I would have thought he could have done more good staying in another country by networking. Until Putin dies, or becomes frail from old age, I just don't see Russia breaking from his control.
 
2021-02-28 7:50:40 PM  
Shot while trying to escape

Or shanked and eaten by one of any of a dozen gangs in that pit
 
2021-02-28 7:52:02 PM  
"Jumps" out of a window is my guess.
 
2021-02-28 7:57:15 PM  

GummyBearOverlord: "Jumps" out of a window is my guess.


Demonstrate defenestrate?
 
2021-02-28 7:57:17 PM  
I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.
 
2021-02-28 7:58:34 PM  

Bear_of_Arkona: I guess I will never understand his desire to return to Russia. I would have thought he could have done more good staying in another country by networking. Until Putin dies, or becomes frail from old age, I just don't see Russia breaking from his control.


Maybe none of that was the point. Perhaps the goal here is martyrdom.

Although I suspect her will end up being less Nelson Mandela, and more Bobby Sands.
 
2021-02-28 8:00:25 PM  
Saw something once about a Russian prison called Black Dolphin.  Yea you don't want to do time there.
 
2021-02-28 8:00:32 PM  
To be fair this is a step up for Russia.

During the Great Purge there would have been a big show trial, he would confess all sorts of ludicrous crimes, he'd plea for mercy and lenience, and they'd accept his plea right before they execute him.

At least they don't do that anymore.
 
2021-02-28 8:00:52 PM  
How has that Snowden character been anyways?
 
2021-02-28 8:02:21 PM  

GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.


they deserve it. don't feel bad.
 
2021-02-28 8:03:36 PM  
He... also compared immigrants to cockroachs.

Putin is bad. So are most of his opponents.
 
2021-02-28 8:05:11 PM  

Bear_of_Arkona: I guess I will never understand his desire to return to Russia. I would have thought he could have done more good staying in another country by networking. Until Putin dies, or becomes frail from old age, I just don't see Russia breaking from his control.


Watch episode 2 of Spycraft on Netflix and report back.
 
2021-02-28 8:05:44 PM  
The tag should be "Obvious"
 
2021-02-28 8:10:45 PM  
I can't imagine Mr. Navalny is going to survive his stay at this retreat. It's just not how business is done there.
 
2021-02-28 8:11:14 PM  

GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.


We came this || close Jan. 6.
 
2021-02-28 8:12:37 PM  
What makes the gulag particularly bad?

Do they have nutriloaf or something?
Or do they put you in solitary for months on end until you lose all traces of your sanity and humanity?
 
2021-02-28 8:13:55 PM  

GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.


get accustomed to it, it'll be standard operating procedure in the USA in a few years.
 
2021-02-28 8:15:09 PM  
He wants to get the biko treatment.
 
2021-02-28 8:22:19 PM  
I'm sure whatever "accident" he has will be completely believable.
 
2021-02-28 8:27:31 PM  

MurphyMurphy: What makes the gulag particularly bad?

Do they have nutriloaf or something?
Or do they put you in solitary for months on end until you lose all traces of your sanity and humanity?


They mess with your mind and your health.

In TFA there was a story about the camp he's going to, where someone's gloves went missing.  That person borrowed gloves from another worker,and was punished for it.   His relatives sent a replacement pair, that were never delivered.  I don't want to even think of how brutal it would be to work in gulag near Moscow without gloves.

I read another story of someone that was awakened every two hours "so they would know he had not escaped".   Sleep deprivation is one of the worst tortures out there.

That kind of sh*t.

And I'm sure pootie will contact the right authorities in that place and give them special instructions just for Navalny.

My guess is he won't get out alive.
 
2021-02-28 8:28:18 PM  
I believe his death will be described as "a perfect storm of screw-ups" when he is found dead in his cell of suicide by hanging.

Like the coronavirus, it's going around.
 
2021-02-28 8:28:38 PM  

stuffy: I'm sure whatever "accident" he has will be completely believable.


"Two days before he was scheduled to be released, Navalny reportedly lunged at a group of prison guards who had to kill him in self defense"
 
2021-02-28 8:33:37 PM  

studebaker hoch: I read another story of someone that was awakened every two hours "so they would know he had not escaped".   Sleep deprivation is one of the worst tortures out there.


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2021-02-28 8:39:42 PM  

Bear_of_Arkona: I guess I will never understand his desire to return to Russia. I would have thought he could have done more good staying in another country by networking. Until Putin dies, or becomes frail from old age, I just don't see Russia breaking from his control.


According to actuarial tables, Putin is already past average life expectancy for a Russian male, and rumor has it he may have (iirc) MS.

Navalny fascinates me and I keep thinking of other jailed leaders who got out and kept on. I hope he turns out to be one.
 
2021-02-28 8:54:37 PM  
While violence is usually never an answer, the only way Russia will ever come close to its former standing is if someone puts a bullet in Putin's head.
 
2021-02-28 9:04:38 PM  

i_dig_chicks: Saw something once about a Russian prison called Black Dolphin.  Yea you don't want to do time there.


Shudder.
 
2021-02-28 9:08:19 PM  

darth sunshine: GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.

get accustomed to it, it'll be standard operating procedure in the USA in a few years.


Trump would have to somehow return to power first, and I don't see it happening.
 
2021-02-28 9:08:56 PM  
Play stupid games....
 
2021-02-28 9:22:13 PM  
Gonna be a LOT of dancing around the world when Putin's dead and on his way BACK to Hell.
 
2021-02-28 9:23:29 PM  

GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.


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2021-02-28 9:25:44 PM  

MurphyMurphy: What makes the gulag particularly bad?

Do they have nutriloaf or something?
Or do they put you in solitary for months on end until you lose all traces of your sanity and humanity?


Imagine how "Q Shaman" would react to being sent to one of these places. Where "organic food" meant "something ISN'T stripped off the tread of an old tire".
 
2021-02-28 9:28:50 PM  
All you need is a shape shifter.

Problem.  Solved.

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2021-02-28 9:30:13 PM  

studebaker hoch: darth sunshine: GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.

get accustomed to it, it'll be standard operating procedure in the USA in a few years.

Trump would have to somehow return to power first, and I don't see it happening.


CPAC? I don't think he's the only threat
 
2021-02-28 9:31:56 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: MurphyMurphy: What makes the gulag particularly bad?

Do they have nutriloaf or something?
Or do they put you in solitary for months on end until you lose all traces of your sanity and humanity?

Imagine how "Q Shaman" would react to being sent to one of these places. Where "organic food" meant "something ISN'T stripped off the tread of an old tire".


Yes, clearly we're the ones doing it wrong.

/Sarcasm
 
2021-02-28 9:35:43 PM  

parasol: Bear_of_Arkona: I guess I will never understand his desire to return to Russia. I would have thought he could have done more good staying in another country by networking. Until Putin dies, or becomes frail from old age, I just don't see Russia breaking from his control.

According to actuarial tables, Putin is already past average life expectancy for a Russian male, and rumor has it he may have (iirc) MS.

Navalny fascinates me and I keep thinking of other jailed leaders who got out and kept on. I hope he turns out to be one.


Ummm....just not being an alcoholic will do that for you.
 
2021-02-28 9:37:40 PM  
2 words : Death Sentence
 
2021-02-28 9:40:55 PM  

Electrify: While violence is usually never an answer, the only way Russia will ever come close to its former standing is if someone puts a bullet in Putin's head.


Lol Wut?

You do realize that the only times Russia really was "great", it was under the control of someone brutal, right?

Yeltsin was a joke, and while we like Gorby here, he was essentially the one that lost the empire.
 
2021-02-28 9:40:55 PM  

OhioUGrad: GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.

We came this || close Jan. 6.


No, we did not.
Orwell's 1984 is a dystopian novel, not a guidebook.
Constantly gaslighting people to convince them that the Qanon shaman was leading a coup is not going to get you a country where one party is dominant and opposition news outlets are suppressed. Not yours.
 
2021-02-28 9:54:30 PM  

gar1013: Electrify: While violence is usually never an answer, the only way Russia will ever come close to its former standing is if someone puts a bullet in Putin's head.

Lol Wut?

You do realize that the only times Russia really was "great", it was under the control of someone brutal, right?

Yeltsin was a joke, and while we like Gorby here, he was essentially the one that lost the empire.


I'll admit I don't know much about Russian history, but I did assume it was relatively decent up until at least the 18th century.

/off to read up on Wikipedia to see just how off base my assumptions are
 
2021-02-28 10:22:36 PM  

Animatronik: OhioUGrad: GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.

We came this || close Jan. 6.

No, we did not.
Orwell's 1984 is a dystopian novel, not a guidebook.
Constantly gaslighting people to convince them that the Qanon shaman was leading a coup is not going to get you a country where one party is dominant and opposition news outlets are suppressed. Not yours.


That's bait.
 
2021-02-28 10:30:49 PM  

Animatronik: OhioUGrad: GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.

We came this || close Jan. 6.

No, we did not.
Orwell's 1984 is a dystopian novel, not a guidebook.
Constantly gaslighting people to convince them that the Qanon shaman was leading a coup is not going to get you a country where one party is dominant and opposition news outlets are suppressed. Not yours.


Congrats...only Sunday night, Dotard spoke and you wrote the dumbest farking thing I'll read all week.

Take your terrorist sympathizing back to your parler safe space.
 
2021-02-28 10:32:15 PM  

studebaker hoch: i_dig_chicks: Saw something once about a Russian prison called Black Dolphin.  Yea you don't want to do time there.

Shudder.


At least the Kolyma gulags are no longer in operation.
 
2021-02-28 10:36:13 PM  
Hopefully he doesn't become a "cow" (have an individual join an escape whose only purpose is to feed the other escapees)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/peo​p​le/highlights/001027_siberia.shtml
 
2021-02-28 10:53:35 PM  

Electrify: I'll admit I don't know much about Russian history, but I did assume it was relatively decent up until at least the 18th century.

/off to read up on Wikipedia to see just how off base my assumptions are


No. Even back then Russia sucked.

The Russians are a hardy but miserable people living in a harsh and unforgiving landscape. The only kind of cultural value system that could possibly emerge from such extremes is authoritarianism. Even before the Soviets, Russia was managed by very brutal and very strict hierarchies. Even their best leaders (Peter and Catherine) were totalitarian assholes.

Maybe they don't know freedom. Maybe they don't understand or comprehend it much. They are a culture historically fraught with ruthless control, and so they have become accustomed to the system that makes sense to them. Even when given Democracy and liberty, like a gyroscope they eventually reassert back to their old ways of draconian social orders and oppressive obedience. It's just their way.

At least, that's my theory
 
2021-02-28 10:58:13 PM  
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Good movie.
 
2021-02-28 11:17:21 PM  
A friend of mine from the Czech Republic told me what he thought was wrong with Russia:

"Those people don't have souls".
 
2021-02-28 11:19:10 PM  

Animatronik: OhioUGrad: GranoblasticMan: I feel for Russian people. It has to be so farking demoralizing living in a regime like that.

We came this || close Jan. 6.

No, we did not.
Orwell's 1984 is a dystopian novel, not a guidebook.
Constantly gaslighting people to convince them that the Qanon shaman was leading a coup is not going to get you a country where one party is dominant and opposition news outlets are suppressed. Not yours.


Shut up
 
2021-02-28 11:33:06 PM  
Russia couldn't kill him quickly, so now they will kill him slowly.
 
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