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2021-02-28 3:59:37 PM  
As long as there's people to grift to, the Republican party will never go away.
 
2021-02-28 4:19:01 PM  
I liked that article a lot more than I liked the headline above. Maybe someone will submit a better hed. Nichols makes a salient point. The GOP's lack of a coherent, reality-based political program isn't merely laughable and sad, which I do feel it very much is, it is also dangerous.
 
2021-02-28 5:51:00 PM  

aaronx: I liked that article a lot more than I liked the headline above. Maybe someone will submit a better hed. Nichols makes a salient point. The GOP's lack of a coherent, reality-based political program isn't merely laughable and sad, which I do feel it very much is, it is also dangerous.


Indeed. Not only is it nonsensical...it is a clear and present danger to the Republic. They think that the last election was fraudulent and may be inspired to do something even more drastic than storming the capital next time. Something, I don't know, like going on murderous rampages. Or physically attacking people they don't agree with.
 
2021-02-28 5:52:19 PM  

iheartscotch: aaronx: I liked that article a lot more than I liked the headline above. Maybe someone will submit a better hed. Nichols makes a salient point. The GOP's lack of a coherent, reality-based political program isn't merely laughable and sad, which I do feel it very much is, it is also dangerous.

Indeed. Not only is it nonsensical...it is a clear and present danger to the Republic. They think that the last election was fraudulent and may be inspired to do something even more drastic than storming the capital next time. Something, I don't know, like going on murderous rampages. Or physically attacking people they don't agree with.


Or blowing shiat up.
 
2021-02-28 5:55:12 PM  
Every month, there's an article like this.

Every election, the Republican Party is MORE of a threat, not less.

Stop sniffing your own farts about how Republicans are somehow losing power and influence because of their evil. If anything, they are becoming more powerful and more influential by embracing their evil and spinning their engines up.
 
2021-02-28 5:55:33 PM  
At least the communists had ideas

These idiots are nihilists with a laffer curve fetish and disdain for poor minorities kicker.

Anti abortion, pro gun, anti immigration is not a platform. It doesn't do anything. We already have all the guns we want. We already have low abortion rates. We already have difficult immigration.
 
2021-02-28 5:58:22 PM  

iheartscotch: aaronx: I liked that article a lot more than I liked the headline above. Maybe someone will submit a better hed. Nichols makes a salient point. The GOP's lack of a coherent, reality-based political program isn't merely laughable and sad, which I do feel it very much is, it is also dangerous.

Indeed. Not only is it nonsensical...it is a clear and present danger to the Republic. They think that the last election was fraudulent and may be inspired to do something even more drastic than storming the capital next time. Something, I don't know, like going on murderous rampages. Or physically attacking people they don't agree with.


They're already doing this. Did you not see the gallows constructed in the vicinity of the Capitol on 1/6? The people who stormed the building fully intended to find members of Congress and VP Pence and use violent coercion against them.
 
2021-02-28 5:58:35 PM  
No.

Stop this nonsense.

It's even more dangerous because they're literally willing to follow a cult of personality to death.
 
2021-02-28 6:00:28 PM  
When the Republican Party is gone, there will be a grift "To bring back the Republican Party". Your support is desperately needed!  Any amount of money will help!  With your help, the Republican Party will come back stronger than ever and last a thousand years!
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2021-02-28 6:01:00 PM  
A dying party can still be is a dangerous party.

Better.
 
2021-02-28 6:01:10 PM  

texanjeff: At least the communists had ideas

These idiots are nihilists with a laffer curve fetish and disdain for poor minorities kicker.

Anti abortion, pro gun, anti immigration is not a platform. It doesn't do anything. We already have all the guns we want. We already have low abortion rates. We already have difficult immigration.


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2021-02-28 6:01:52 PM  
You're telling me the group waving conferred at flags at rallies is losing?  Weird.
 
2021-02-28 6:02:54 PM  
89 Stick-Up Kid:

Confederate!  Damn autocorrect.
 
2021-02-28 6:03:07 PM  

wademh: texanjeff: At least the communists had ideas

These idiots are nihilists with a laffer curve fetish and disdain for poor minorities kicker.

Anti abortion, pro gun, anti immigration is not a platform. It doesn't do anything. We already have all the guns we want. We already have low abortion rates. We already have difficult immigration.

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Exactly
 
2021-02-28 6:04:26 PM  
Hogwash, who else are 74MM jackholes going to vote for?
 
2021-02-28 6:04:34 PM  
Despite the clear difference in ideology and beliefs the Republican party does indeed seem to be a similar anachronism to the late stages of Communism. I lived through the times of Brezhnev and Gorbachev, I watched the Berlin Wall be demolished, I saw Yugoslavia fragment into Civil War, watched Poland remove its Communist regime and listened to the reports that Nicolae Ceaușescu had been executed.
I am beginning to feel the beginnings of Déjà moo. I have heard this bullshiat before.
 
2021-02-28 6:06:19 PM  

saturn badger: A dying party can still be is a dangerous party.

Better.


The tail of the dying dinosaur still has the Thagomizer, named for the late "Thag" Simmons.
/on mobile
// Far Side rules.
 
2021-02-28 6:06:52 PM  
The Republican party will never end so long as this country continues to refuse to prosecute the rich and powerful for their crimes.

And that will never happen, because there are few or no rich and powerful people who are actually legally clean, and prosecuting even the worst, most egregious of them opens up the possibility of prosecuting ANY of them. 

So, dirty as f*ck sh*tstains like McConnell, the Trump Family, Graham, Cruz, etc etc etc. will continue to get away with all of their corruption, lest prosecuting their corruption exposes others on any/all sides who are also corrupt.
 
2021-02-28 6:07:38 PM  
It's the American Nazi Party. It's platform is literally white male power. That's it.
 
2021-02-28 6:09:03 PM  
A) This same article was posted on Fark  a couple of days ago.

B) I disagree with it.  The GOP is not moribund the way the Communist Party was in the 1980's.  It has a life just as the traditional opposition for the Democratic Party.

But even more so, there is a large group that is very passionate about the Republican Party.  They want it to become a forthright auhoritarian
 
2021-02-28 6:09:08 PM  
We are witnessing exactly what happened with the White ruling party of South Africa, when apartheid was on the verge of being dismantled.

They became even more violent and extremist, in a desperate attempt to keep power and preserve their system.

We're experiencing the same thing, but in slow motion. Republicans will only get more extremist, violent, and deadly, as their power and numbers diminish.
 
2021-02-28 6:09:11 PM  
subby is the kind of guy who jerks off in his own cereal every morning then cries about how he hates the taste.
 
2021-02-28 6:09:28 PM  

aaronx: I liked that article a lot more than I liked the headline above. Maybe someone will submit a better hed. Nichols makes a salient point. The GOP's lack of a coherent, reality-based political program isn't merely laughable and sad, which I do feel it very much is, it is also dangerous.


They haven't had one for forty years, except to schlurp the knob of Big Money. That was it, just service to the piles of cash. In order to remain in power at all they grafted on scary social issues, beginning with abortion. They've gone from abortion to gun rights to all but proclaiming that we bring back slavery.  They never had anything to begin with and never missed a chance to prostitute themselves to any constituency whose voice wasn't being heard due to being completely insane.  Now it's just this accretion of the most base and reprehensible human instincts, and Frankenstein's monster is going to collapse under its own weight, unless the liberal media succeeds in helping them rebrand, as they will certainly try to do.
 
2021-02-28 6:12:12 PM  

saturn badger: A dying party can still be is a dangerous party.

Better.


When an animal is cornered, that's when it's most dangerous. When a group is near extinction, that's when it becomes most radical. Over the last decade or two we are seeing the last violent gasping breaths of fascism. That's why all this is happening. They know they are in the minority and are a dying breed and are fighting like hell to remain alive and relevant. Will it get worse? Absolutely. Any person or group fights it's hardest when on the edge of death.
 
2021-02-28 6:14:50 PM  

Corn_Fed: We are witnessing exactly what happened with the White ruling party of South Africa, when apartheid was on the verge of being dismantled.

They became even more violent and extremist, in a desperate attempt to keep power and preserve their system.

We're experiencing the same thing, but in slow motion. Republicans will only get more extremist, violent, and deadly, as their power and numbers diminish.


Yes! Exactly.
 
2021-02-28 6:15:25 PM  
The GOP isn't dying, it's morphing in to the GQP. The events of the last two months have made it clear, they're throwing in fully 100% behind Trump. Even McConnel couldn't bring himself to make a clean break, and they won't sanction or turn on him.

They hate him, but they'll still bend the knee, kiss the ring, and lick the taint.

They are his party.
He is them.
They are one.

For better or worse the GQP has tied itself fully and wholly to Trump, his fate and theirs are one.
 
2021-02-28 6:15:43 PM  
B) authoritarian/oligarchical/fascist party, while still retaining the name value and existing organizational and financial structure of the GOP.  That is the path the Republican politicians in Washington are going down IMO.  It remains to be seen whether they can purge the party at the state and local level without losing so many people they destroy it .  I would bet they can.
 
2021-02-28 6:21:25 PM  

wademh: texanjeff: At least the communists had ideas

These idiots are nihilists with a laffer curve fetish and disdain for poor minorities kicker.

Anti abortion, pro gun, anti immigration is not a platform. It doesn't do anything. We already have all the guns we want. We already have low abortion rates. We already have difficult immigration.

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2021-02-28 6:22:51 PM  
remember how all the pundits and talking heads were telling us after the capital insurrection that Donald Trump was absolutely toxic and no one will ever go near him again? How the Republican party had finally been shamed into submission? 6 weeks later they're celebrating Donald Trump and denying that January 6th ever happened. The Republican party is like the hydra. You cut off one head and it grows back plus one.
 
2021-02-28 6:40:13 PM  

aaronx: I liked that article a lot more than I liked the headline above. Maybe someone will submit a better hed. Nichols makes a salient point. The GOP's lack of a coherent, reality-based political program isn't merely laughable and sad, which I do feel it very much is, it is also dangerous.


You don't need reality.  You only need:

- A mob
- Bread & Circuses with which to attract them
- An enemy at which to point them

If we're very, VERY lucky, Republicans will shoot themselves in the foot by stomping on anything vaguely "Bread"-like in that analogy.  They've got literally everything else lined up.

This is assuming that the DNC is less of an "arm" of the same political machine that drives the Republicans (the non-Trump ones, willing to use MAGA for their own, nefarious purposes though they may be) and serving up the Bread of stimulus in their stead.  And what I mean by that is whether the R's manage to take credit for stimulus they tried to kill, and the D's let them, somehow.

I seem to recall that the German Nazi Party had at least one close call in the 1920s or early 1930s, before it took off...
 
2021-02-28 6:45:09 PM  
wait, so are we at the rapture/bigly-etchalongs or not?

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2021-02-28 6:56:11 PM  

mamoru: The Republican party will never end so long as this country continues to refuse to prosecute the rich and powerful for their crimes.

And that will never happen, because there are few or no rich and powerful people who are actually legally clean, and prosecuting even the worst, most egregious of them opens up the possibility of prosecuting ANY of them. 

So, dirty as f*ck sh*tstains like McConnell, the Trump Family, Graham, Cruz, etc etc etc. will continue to get away with all of their corruption, lest prosecuting their corruption exposes others on any/all sides who are also corrupt.


oh BSAB up your ass and fark off.
 
2021-02-28 7:01:20 PM  
Even so, as TFA says, there was enough life decay in the USSR communist party to fark up the world for another 20 years after the 1970s. So look to 2040-2050.
 
2021-02-28 7:05:23 PM  

gaspode: mamoru: The Republican party will never end so long as this country continues to refuse to prosecute the rich and powerful for their crimes.

And that will never happen, because there are few or no rich and powerful people who are actually legally clean, and prosecuting even the worst, most egregious of them opens up the possibility of prosecuting ANY of them. 

So, dirty as f*ck sh*tstains like McConnell, the Trump Family, Graham, Cruz, etc etc etc. will continue to get away with all of their corruption, lest prosecuting their corruption exposes others on any/all sides who are also corrupt.

oh BSAB up your ass and fark off.


It's not BSAB. It's ONE f*cking side: the rich and powerful. And they will continue to look out for their own, and they will only ever hand any of their own out to dry when those do something egregious enough to threaten the continued wealth and power of the rest.
 
2021-02-28 7:06:46 PM  
The implosion of the Republican Party would be a good thing except for the fact so many dullards will keep voting Republican even if it kills them (and everyone else).
 
2021-02-28 7:09:20 PM  
Actually, a comparison to the cult of Mao would be more accurate. IN the USSR, people tended to be fanatical to the system of Marxism/Leninism more than an actual devotion to a particular leader. With Mao though, it was an almost mindless cult of personality.
 
2021-02-28 7:15:16 PM  

mamoru: gaspode: mamoru: The Republican party will never end so long as this country continues to refuse to prosecute the rich and powerful for their crimes.

And that will never happen, because there are few or no rich and powerful people who are actually legally clean, and prosecuting even the worst, most egregious of them opens up the possibility of prosecuting ANY of them. 

So, dirty as f*ck sh*tstains like McConnell, the Trump Family, Graham, Cruz, etc etc etc. will continue to get away with all of their corruption, lest prosecuting their corruption exposes others on any/all sides who are also corrupt.

oh BSAB up your ass and fark off.

It's not BSAB. It's ONE f*cking side: the rich and powerful. And they will continue to look out for their own, and they will only ever hand any of their own out to dry when those do something egregious enough to threaten the continued wealth and power of the rest.


better do nothing then
 
2021-02-28 7:22:44 PM  

cocozilla: remember how all the pundits and talking heads were telling us after the capital insurrection that Donald Trump was absolutely toxic and no one will ever go near him again?


No.
 
2021-02-28 7:25:34 PM  

texanjeff: At least the communists had ideas

These idiots are nihilists with a laffer curve fetish and disdain for poor minorities kicker.

Anti abortion, pro gun, anti immigration is not a platform. It doesn't do anything. We already have all the guns we want. We already have low abortion rates. We already have difficult immigration.


Don't forget wishing makes it so.

Wishing the coronavirus will go away when the weather warms up.  Wishing global climate change is a hoax.  Wishing they can can "pray away teh gheyz",  Wishing voter fraud is the reason the former president is a "former" president.  Wishing it was all Hillary's fault.  Or Obama's.
 
2021-02-28 7:28:29 PM  

cocozilla: remember how all the pundits and talking heads were telling us after the capital insurrection that Donald Trump was absolutely toxic and no one will ever go near him again?


Some of them certainly said that. They didn't make up the majority of the Republican pundits though. They were trying to defend and downplay the attacks while they were still ongoing.
 
2021-02-28 7:30:24 PM  
Republican Party will continue its current trajectory. It has been reduced down to the total true believers. Thats why the % never moves much its that 30% or so.

And at the moment because they control enough small pop states they get to play in the big leagues.

we are beholden to a bunch of senators that represent an ever shrinking minority party.

Maybe they should push hard on rural infrastructure to run some move to the country campaign to light up the rust belt with a bunch of liberal voters
 
2021-02-28 7:35:13 PM  

gaspode: better do nothing then


Wow. That's quite a conclusion to come to based on the fact that the rich will not eat their own. You go ahead and do nothing.

I'm going to go ahead and keep volunteering for local mutual aid groups and supporting grassroots progressive politicians that aren't coming from big money and who don't think in terms of sides but rather in terms of uplifting the least privileged in our society.

Have fun doing nothing but trying to score internet points by BSABBlaming all over the place.
 
2021-02-28 7:43:41 PM  
Oh one way or the the other will be a Republican Party.  Both parties have evolved. What will eventually die, assuming we remain something that sometimes resembles a democracy, is Trumpism.  When there is a choice ditching Trump and what he stood for and having power there will be enough that will choose power. And someone will eventually try to appeal to those who fled the GOP. Someone will figure out that there are blacks, gays, and non-Christians who agree with them on taxes but vote for Democrats because they don't like discrimination.
 
2021-02-28 7:45:20 PM  

aaronx: I liked that article a lot more than I liked the headline above. Maybe someone will submit a better hed. Nichols makes a salient point. The GOP's lack of a coherent, reality-based political program isn't merely laughable and sad, which I do feel it very much is, it is also dangerous.


The difference is that however much the GOP works to suppress voters, they typically need some sort of majority to show up and vote for them (although North Dakota is trying to get around this).  What the article calls the "GOP" may have a death grip on most of the candidates, but it isn't clear.  Trump certainly wasn't chosen by the party-committees, he was chosen by the party voters.  And basically lead wire-to-wire without the real head to head competition that all the not-Romney of the week gave Romney.

Granted, plenty of the types that get into power by primary the official candidates are GQP crazies.  But that appears to be the immediate future of the party as the old guard appears incapable of doing more than blocking the Democrats (which is certainly what they are paid to do.  The new group seem to miss that).

There are a lot of people out there that will never, ever, vote for a democrat.  There are plenty of other "fark independents" who don't want to vote libertarian, but will vote for any right-winger slightly more serious (or less exposed as) a GQP crazy.  The Republican party really *can't* die, although it might get renamed if it splits into two for awhile (and essentially exits power until it gets its act together).

There are too many voters and too much money willing to organize them for there not to be a right wing party for very long.  And whatever name it might have, it will be the same voters, nearly the same issues, and similar candidates as the Republicans.
 
2021-02-28 7:57:41 PM  

mamoru: gaspode: better do nothing then

Wow. That's quite a conclusion to come to based on the fact that the rich will not eat their own. You go ahead and do nothing.

I'm going to go ahead and keep volunteering for local mutual aid groups and supporting grassroots progressive politicians that aren't coming from big money and who don't think in terms of sides but rather in terms of uplifting the least privileged in our society.

Have fun doing nothing but trying to score internet points by BSABBlaming all over the place.


Okay

Thread is about what a bunch of utter crooks and wankers republicans are.

Your response: 'All people in power are the same'

its about as classic a BSAB as you could ever get.

No they are NOT the same. One side is imperfect, but broadly has good intentions (with a few exceptions). The other side is malignantly evil at all levels. There is NO single group, 'The rich' who are a political bloc and who rule everything. There is almost no common cause between rich Democrats and rich Republicans.
 
2021-02-28 8:12:09 PM  

Great_Milenko: texanjeff: At least the communists had ideas

These idiots are nihilists with a laffer curve fetish and disdain for poor minorities kicker.

Anti abortion, pro gun, anti immigration is not a platform. It doesn't do anything. We already have all the guns we want. We already have low abortion rates. We already have difficult immigration.

Don't forget wishing makes it so.

Wishing the coronavirus will go away when the weather warms up.  Wishing global climate change is a hoax.  Wishing they can can "pray away teh gheyz",  Wishing voter fraud is the reason the former president is a "former" president.  Wishing it was all Hillary's fault.  Or Obama's.


Oh man... that's so good!!!
 
2021-02-28 8:29:33 PM  

Dknsvsbl: saturn badger: A dying party can still be is a dangerous party.

Better.

The tail of the dying dinosaur still has the Thagomizer, named for the late "Thag" Simmons.
/on mobile
// Far Side rules.


Sorry, but that the Stegosaurus died out in the late Jurassic, leaving dinosaurs persisting through the whole 80 million years of the Cretaceous just spoils it for me.
 
2021-02-28 8:38:14 PM  

Somacandra: Even so, as TFA says, there was enough life decay in the USSR communist party to fark up the world for another 20 years after the 1970s. So look to 2040-2050.


Hell those members of the Communist Party are still around so add a few decades. They became the oligarchs. Putin started in the KGB.

The big difference between the CP and the GOP is that CP was from a state where it was the only legal party. One party will never accommodate everyone's views and once it loses whatever mechanism it has of eliminating competition, it will be in dire trouble. But the collapse of the CP did not mean the old "Communists" went away.  Those members who could morph made up the new elites.   Members of the GOP who do not die off of old age have a choice between morphing and having power. Like members of the CP, many will choose the path of power. As Trumpism gets more discredited, as Trump's supporters die of old age, as demographics change, the path of power means ditching Trump.
 
2021-02-28 8:46:43 PM  

gaspode: There is almost no common cause between rich Democrats and rich Republicans.


Is that why President Biden has, as a major part of his platform, the desire to work with Republicans, and several establishment Democrats continue to insist that this country needs a strong Republican party?

No, Democrats and Republicans are not the same in their ideology. The Republicans are evil f*cks who actively want to hurt the people for their own profit and power. The majority of Democrats are content to mostly ignore the people (except when it's time to campaign) or at best do the bare minimum to keep people complacent while they maintain their own profit and power. But neither is willing to investigate and prosecute how anyone came about, continues to maintain, etc. their profit and power, because that puts their own profit and power at risk. And all are beholden to rich interests who contribute to their campaign (and probably personal) coffers.

If you don't see that, there's nothing I can do for you.

Does this mean I'm not going to vote for Democrats when the only other choice with a chance at winning is a Republican? F*ck no; I'll vote blue until I turn blue or until a viable progressive contender makes it far enough to have a real chance. 

But that also doesn't mean I'm not going to be critical of the Democrats when they aren't serving the people. Republicans are a lost f*cking cause and no longer worth wasting time on. Democrats are supposed to be better, so hopefully the criticism and pointing out what they are doing wrong will encourage them to do better.

The Republican party absolutely needs to be destroyed. They need to be a non-entity in terms of political power in this country. Do you *really* think the Democratic party will do so? Do you think they have the spine or the drive to do so? Do you think the rich powerful players of the Democratic party will risk exposing their own corruption to bring down the absolutely corrupt Republican party?

So f*ck off with your BSABBlaming. And wake me up when a rich powerful person actually holds another rich powerful person justly accountable for their crimes, regardless of what f*cking letter is next to their name.
 
2021-02-28 8:50:13 PM  
More likely: The Atlantic Magazine Is Now in Its End Stages
 
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