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(Some Fly Guy)   Entitled exec or railroaded chump?   (onemileatatime.com) divider line
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1460 clicks; posted to Business » on 28 Feb 2021 at 10:24 AM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-02-28 8:50:34 AM  
Entitled douche.
 
2021-02-28 10:34:04 AM  
"Have you ever sent your assistant a picture of a cartoon penis?"

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2021-02-28 10:34:19 AM  
Who cares?
 
2021-02-28 10:53:21 AM  
Sounds like a guy who finally gave the company the excuse it needed to let him go.
 
2021-02-28 10:54:01 AM  
It doesn't sound like upgrading his flight on the company's dime was his biggest failure.

For anyone who doesn't travel and thinks an overseas flight in coach is a special hell, it's not.  I've aways flown coach to China (12 to 14 hrs), Australia (14 hrs), and South Africa (15 hrs).  It's not terrible.  I'm 6 ft 200 lbs.
 
2021-02-28 11:02:33 AM  

Glorious Golden Ass: It doesn't sound like upgrading his flight on the company's dime was his biggest failure.

For anyone who doesn't travel and thinks an overseas flight in coach is a special hell, it's not.  I've aways flown coach to China (12 to 14 hrs), Australia (14 hrs), and South Africa (15 hrs).  It's not terrible.  I'm 6 ft 200 lbs.


Any company not paying for business class for trips of that length is throwing money away. You need a day to recover from that shiat. There's basically three options:

1) Waste a day while employee recovers from flight
2) Have a totally ineffective employee for at least a day, possibly longer due to lack of recovery day
3) Just pay for business class.
 
2021-02-28 11:19:39 AM  
"Have you ever sent your assistant a picture of a cartoon penis?"

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2021-02-28 11:38:42 AM  
IF he had been based out of LA the studio would have likely been contractually obligated to provide business or 1rst for any flight longer than some number of hours usually (LA to NY or greater).
 
2021-02-28 12:06:40 PM  

Glorious Golden Ass: It doesn't sound like upgrading his flight on the company's dime was his biggest failure.

For anyone who doesn't travel and thinks an overseas flight in coach is a special hell, it's not.  I've aways flown coach to China (12 to 14 hrs), Australia (14 hrs), and South Africa (15 hrs).  It's not terrible.  I'm 6 ft 200 lbs.


That entirely depends on who you are and what you have to do after. I've got neck problems from being hit by a truck 2 separate times, and 14 hours in coach when it's flaring up would mean that I would be unable to walk off the plane due to the pain induced nausea. Worse is my friend with a slipped disc in his back. He got approved for permanent first class after one of them let loose in flight and he had to be carried off the plane to a hospital because the nerve pinch had temporarily paralyzed him from the waist down. His company lost a shiatload of money on that trip.
 
2021-02-28 12:26:03 PM  

Daer21: I've got neck problems from being hit by a truck 2 separate times,


Ex-wife backed up to make sure?
 
2021-02-28 1:26:42 PM  
Lol, suddenly, cartoon penis?
 
2021-02-28 1:41:09 PM  
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2021-02-28 1:43:03 PM  

trialpha: Glorious Golden Ass: It doesn't sound like upgrading his flight on the company's dime was his biggest failure.

For anyone who doesn't travel and thinks an overseas flight in coach is a special hell, it's not.  I've aways flown coach to China (12 to 14 hrs), Australia (14 hrs), and South Africa (15 hrs).  It's not terrible.  I'm 6 ft 200 lbs.

Any company not paying for business class for trips of that length is throwing money away. You need a day to recover from that shiat. There's basically three options:

1) Waste a day while employee recovers from flight
2) Have a totally ineffective employee for at least a day, possibly longer due to lack of recovery day
3) Just pay for business class.


This
 
2021-02-28 2:20:55 PM  

trialpha: Glorious Golden Ass: It doesn't sound like upgrading his flight on the company's dime was his biggest failure.

For anyone who doesn't travel and thinks an overseas flight in coach is a special hell, it's not.  I've aways flown coach to China (12 to 14 hrs), Australia (14 hrs), and South Africa (15 hrs).  It's not terrible.  I'm 6 ft 200 lbs.

Any company not paying for business class for trips of that length is throwing money away. You need a day to recover from that shiat. There's basically three options:

1) Waste a day while employee recovers from flight
2) Have a totally ineffective employee for at least a day, possibly longer due to lack of recovery day
3) Just pay for business class.


you get it.
 
2021-02-28 2:23:12 PM  
Fark this guy
 
2021-02-28 2:23:13 PM  

HugeMistake: Daer21: I've got neck problems from being hit by a truck 2 separate times,

Ex-wife backed up to make sure?


username checks out.
First time was 16 year old me misjudging the timing of an interesection, and the truck doing the same. I was too slow, he didn't slow down.
Second time was helping a disabled motorist. Was talking to them about how to move the car on the side of the road and some dumbass decided to try to bypass the disabled vehicle at full speed by swerving around it. Into me. Worst pain of my life.
 
2021-02-28 3:54:43 PM  

Glorious Golden Ass: It doesn't sound like upgrading his flight on the company's dime was his biggest failure.

For anyone who doesn't travel and thinks an overseas flight in coach is a special hell, it's not.  I've aways flown coach to China (12 to 14 hrs), Australia (14 hrs), and South Africa (15 hrs).  It's not terrible.  I'm 6 ft 200 lbs.


Piss on that, I'm a couple pounds less at equivalent height. Yes, due to my injuries, coach is a special form of hell if it's more than 3 hours. Fortunately I don't have to ask anyone permission since it's my company, and any signed contract has an "over 3 hours customer covers business class flight cost" built into the deal.

Granted I would usually get free upgrades anyway, but damn, I wouldn't be able to walk easily after 8 hours in coach much less 12-14+ hours.
 
2021-02-28 4:37:02 PM  
My two takeaways from this are 'don't treat your assistants like crap' and 'wait, the assistant wasn't fired for not solving an impossible request?'

Next time just pay for the upgrade douchewaffle.
 
2021-02-28 6:27:53 PM  
Sounds like he got what he deserved.

/but even my thrifty-on-expenses company will pay for business class if its that far of a flight
 
2021-02-28 9:13:05 PM  

GodComplex: My two takeaways from this are 'don't treat your assistants like crap' and 'wait, the assistant wasn't fired for not solving an impossible request?'

Next time just pay for the upgrade douchewaffle.


Pretty much.
 
2021-02-28 9:16:47 PM  

trialpha: Glorious Golden Ass: It doesn't sound like upgrading his flight on the company's dime was his biggest failure.

For anyone who doesn't travel and thinks an overseas flight in coach is a special hell, it's not.  I've aways flown coach to China (12 to 14 hrs), Australia (14 hrs), and South Africa (15 hrs).  It's not terrible.  I'm 6 ft 200 lbs.

Any company not paying for business class for trips of that length is throwing money away. You need a day to recover from that shiat. There's basically three options:

1) Waste a day while employee recovers from flight
2) Have a totally ineffective employee for at least a day, possibly longer due to lack of recovery day
3) Just pay for business class.


Ya know how I know you don't know the price difference for business class on long flights? It's totally cheaper to give them a couple days to recover. If the cost of economy is X, business class is 3X and first class is 5X to 7X.  Economy+ is your best bet at about 1.3X.

Or we could legally require some sort of minimum seat size. That may cause a drop in airline profitability, so it'll never happen.
 
2021-02-28 9:56:14 PM  

NotARocketScientist: trialpha: Glorious Golden Ass: It doesn't sound like upgrading his flight on the company's dime was his biggest failure.

For anyone who doesn't travel and thinks an overseas flight in coach is a special hell, it's not.  I've aways flown coach to China (12 to 14 hrs), Australia (14 hrs), and South Africa (15 hrs).  It's not terrible.  I'm 6 ft 200 lbs.

Any company not paying for business class for trips of that length is throwing money away. You need a day to recover from that shiat. There's basically three options:

1) Waste a day while employee recovers from flight
2) Have a totally ineffective employee for at least a day, possibly longer due to lack of recovery day
3) Just pay for business class.

Ya know how I know you don't know the price difference for business class on long flights? It's totally cheaper to give them a couple days to recover. If the cost of economy is X, business class is 3X and first class is 5X to 7X.  Economy+ is your best bet at about 1.3X.

Or we could legally require some sort of minimum seat size. That may cause a drop in airline profitability, so it'll never happen.


You seem to be both unfamiliar with the price difference AND the cost of losing the employee for a day.

Do go on though.
 
2021-03-01 12:39:37 AM  

NotARocketScientist: trialpha: Glorious Golden Ass: It doesn't sound like upgrading his flight on the company's dime was his biggest failure.

For anyone who doesn't travel and thinks an overseas flight in coach is a special hell, it's not.  I've aways flown coach to China (12 to 14 hrs), Australia (14 hrs), and South Africa (15 hrs).  It's not terrible.  I'm 6 ft 200 lbs.

Any company not paying for business class for trips of that length is throwing money away. You need a day to recover from that shiat. There's basically three options:

1) Waste a day while employee recovers from flight
2) Have a totally ineffective employee for at least a day, possibly longer due to lack of recovery day
3) Just pay for business class.

Ya know how I know you don't know the price difference for business class on long flights? It's totally cheaper to give them a couple days to recover. If the cost of economy is X, business class is 3X and first class is 5X to 7X.  Economy+ is your best bet at about 1.3X.

Or we could legally require some sort of minimum seat size. That may cause a drop in airline profitability, so it'll never happen.


Price difference is $3-5k. The value generated by the sort of top-tier employee that gets sent to the other side of the world per day? A lot more. Business class exists for a reason.

When I fly that far, the cost for biz class doesn't just mean I hit the ground running (saving the 'recovery' day), but I can be productive on the flight as well. So really, my employer is getting FOUR business days worth out of it (round trip etc). Not to be conceited, but I promise I generate my company well over $1k/day value.
 
2021-03-01 1:29:47 PM  
Previously worked at Amazon and was often in the same position re: travel and health concerns.

The company had absolutely no problem with me using my own funds to upgrade my flight. They just wouldn't pay for more than economy. Not because the company couldn't afford it, but because this kind of very spartan frugality is a company cultural point they use to try and keep their execs from feeling too entitled, and remembering that every last penny should be going to saving customers money instead. (They famously use old doors on cinder blocks for desks, and refused to buy me a mouse for my company laptop when I had a perfectly good track pad.)

This guy was, I believe, either an L8 or L10 level employee. That means he was likely being paid in the range of $800k-$1M/year given his tenure and the stock performance. When you're making several thousand dollars per day, you can pay for your own flight upgrade. Especially if you've very specifically been told not to use the company card or make your assistant do it for you.
 
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