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(Politico)   Apparently at one time, the GOP had an 'idea factory' that didn't revolve around one infantile demagogue   (politico.com) divider line
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2021-02-28 9:22:07 AM  
It used to revolve around a Senile Demagogue
 
2021-02-28 9:48:55 AM  
Since 1966, the GOP has come up with exactly one idea in total.  That idea it to take all the racists in the Democratic party that now hate it thanks to LBJ and the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, and make them Republicans.

That's it.  That was the whole idea.  Singular.

/and so it has come to this
 
2021-02-28 10:18:45 AM  
And every since one of those ideas were "Corporate Tax Cuts"
 
2021-02-28 10:26:31 AM  
The smashing success of said idea factory paved the way for an infantile demagogue, subby.
 
2021-02-28 10:38:35 AM  
No relation to the Idea Factory which publishes the Neptunia games.
 
2021-02-28 10:55:54 AM  
It is 70 million viewers sharing one FoxNews /Right wing radio brain personified by a moron that couldn't even repeat what those organizations actually said. He tried and screwed it up but it was always rule by Media.
He tuned in all day everyday with a direct line to his "braintrust".

You actually had a President that embodied what his voters were and continue to be.
 
2021-02-28 10:58:17 AM  
If you tighten voting restrictions, less people turn out. - Sal.

Gee Sal, how much did you pay McKinsey for that study.

/RTFA
//I know it's not done
///but I did I it anyway
 
2021-02-28 10:58:43 AM  
Stop saying Trump hijacked the party.

They were looking for this asshole.  Ted Cruz was literally the number two choice.
 
2021-02-28 11:00:04 AM  
When they voted against the ACA, which was basically their own policy, they lost a ton of credibility.

This whole mess we are in is at least 99% McConnel's fault
 
2021-02-28 11:00:18 AM  
The "samurai futurologist," guy is high-larious.
 
2021-02-28 11:00:48 AM  
"the politics of grievance has become the near-singular organizing principle of the post-Trump GOP." [FTFA]

Has become? It's been the organizing principle of the GOP for at decade.

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2021-02-28 11:02:10 AM  
Nobody said it was a good-idea factory.
 
2021-02-28 11:02:42 AM  
Out of ideas? Nonsense!

That gold plated Trump is their best idea yet!
 
2021-02-28 11:04:56 AM  
Cheney Hogan 2024
Stiggit.
 
2021-02-28 11:05:05 AM  
Yeah, and that idea factory turned out the idea that billionaires should run the world with no regulation so they can keep the peons poor enough that they have an endless stream of cannon fodder servicemen/women to continue war-mongering about the planet.  Also, the idea that too much melanin is bad.
 
2021-02-28 11:06:00 AM  
"It is a party that has been fashioned in the mold of Trump - Trump's message, Trump's tactics - and it is perfectly comfortable being a party that is defined by what it's against."

It bears repeating...
Trump didn't change the GOP.  He exposed it.
 
2021-02-28 11:06:52 AM  

TwilightZone: Yeah, and that idea factory turned out the idea that billionaires should run the world with no regulation so they can keep the peons poor enough that they have an endless stream of cannon fodder servicemen/women to continue war-mongering about the planet.  Also, the idea that too much melanin is bad.


The billionaires keep their strict IP regulations and copyrights.

Can't have poor people doing science.
 
2021-02-28 11:07:00 AM  
Reagan was a demagogue..  He was just a better actor than Trumpski.
 
2021-02-28 11:07:39 AM  

Charletron: When they voted against the ACA, which was basically their own policy, they lost a ton of credibility.

This whole mess we are in is at least 99% McConnel's fault


That gives McConnell too much credit. Not wanting to care about other people is precisely what makes somebody conservative, and the conservatives have made it plain for seventy years that they only care about ideas which prevent bigger ideas.
 
2021-02-28 11:08:29 AM  
This was an idea factory.

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2021-02-28 11:15:24 AM  
Am I the only person that sees the meme potential of a mashup between the Big Boy and Trumps short-pants statue? Like, "who's a big boy with a statue!?"
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2021-02-28 11:15:46 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Since 1966, the GOP has come up with exactly one idea in total.  That idea it to take all the racists in the Democratic party that now hate it thanks to LBJ and the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, and make them Republicans.

That's it.  That was the whole idea.  Singular.

/and so it has come to this


Oh, they had other ideas:

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2021-02-28 11:19:32 AM  
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2021-02-28 11:24:39 AM  
They actually were very good at churning out ideas to focus and keep their voters engaged.  shiat, the anti-abortion thing that they are STILL batching about came from one of those idea factories.  Almost a decade after Roe V wade they got together and decide it should be an anchor point.

Now, it's never about actual policy or very smart, but they're able to churn out culture war bullshiat that keeps their electorate engaged and angry.

They're very good churning them out and pushing it out in lockstep and having everyone on the same page.  From republican influencers to major GOP news networks to the the politicians, if they churn out a talking point, everyone is parroting it within 24 hours and nobody strays from the talking point in the slightest.

It's actually kind of scary watching one talking point hitting the cycle from 1 source and then within a day seeing every single talking head saying the exact same thing.
 
2021-02-28 11:28:01 AM  

RasIanI: Am I the only person that sees the meme potential of a mashup between the Big Boy and Trumps short-pants statue? Like, "who's a big boy with a statue!?"
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Why the wand?
Is he the Trump Fairy?
 
2021-02-28 11:29:09 AM  
FTA: "Benjamin Ginsberg, an elections lawyer who has represented past Republican presidential nominees, lamented the death of the"ideas factory" in the GOP.
"Tell me what the innovative Republican policies have been of late?" he said."

I am still waiting to hear Paul Ryan's "big, bold ideas".
 
2021-02-28 11:33:10 AM  
They... did!?
 
2021-02-28 11:36:22 AM  

sinner4ever: RasIanI: Am I the only person that sees the meme potential of a mashup between the Big Boy and Trumps short-pants statue? Like, "who's a big boy with a statue!?"
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Why the wand?
Is he the Trump Fairy?


Trump followers want him to wave his "magic wand" and make the country the way they think it should be.

/Trust me, no one wants to see trump wave his "magic wand."
 
2021-02-28 11:36:31 AM  
"No. 1, restoring election integrity in our country for fair and free elections.

Reality:  Creating a fake issue that elections are not fair and free and solving this fake issue by making elections less fair and free through gerrymandering and voter suppression.
 
2021-02-28 11:38:45 AM  
They don't have any ideas. Their signature legislative accomplishment from 2017-2019 after "taking back" the country from Obama was a corporate tax cut. They couldn't even come up with an Obamacare replacement despite promising one for nearly a decade. Their only strategy is to lie to and rile up rednecks to distract from their subservience to business interests, which is deeply unpopular among even Republican voters.

I'm still convinced they only warmed up to Trump after they realized the parts of his populist agenda that were a threat to the economic status quo were all bullshiat. Every Republican Senator would have voted to convict if the abuse of power was getting the IRS to crack down on tax evaders, but destroying democracy just doesn't rise to the same level in their minds.
 
2021-02-28 11:44:04 AM  
If your party's policy is"keep things the way they are", what room is there for innovative ideas?
That's why the Republican Party is wrong on everything.
 
2021-02-28 11:49:37 AM  

nemobeamo: If your party's policy is"keep things the way they are", what room is there for innovative ideas?
That's why the Republican Party is wrong on everything.


You're wrong.
The Republican Party wants to regress while the Democrats want things to stay the same hence the rightward movement over the last 40 years.
The R's move it right while the D's make that new norm permanent.
 
2021-02-28 11:52:01 AM  
It's actually kind of scary watching one talking point hitting the cycle from 1 source and then within a day seeing every single talking head saying the exact same thing.

It's actually kind of funny you apparently think Democrats don't do this.
 
2021-02-28 11:54:26 AM  

Charletron: When they voted against the ACA, which was basically their own policy, they lost a ton of credibility.

This whole mess we are in is at least 99% McConnel's fault


They had to vote against the ACA. The GOP has cast itself as the party of being in opposition to the Democrats, anti-regulation, and the idea that government is harmful.

So when a Democratic president and congress imposed regulations that insurance companies had to actually cover pre-existing conditions and couldn't drop people for having expensive conditions, it didn't matter that the plan had Republican roots.

In short, the GOP is a teenager trying to be edgy by rejecting everything adults do and believe in.
 
2021-02-28 11:55:33 AM  

RasIanI: Am I the only person that sees the meme potential of a mashup between the Big Boy and Trumps short-pants statue? Like, "who's a big boy with a statue!?"
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I go to the Lard Lad guy myself.
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2021-02-28 12:05:07 PM  

sinner4ever: nemobeamo: If your party's policy is"keep things the way they are", what room is there for innovative ideas?
That's why the Republican Party is wrong on everything.

You're wrong.
The Republican Party wants to regress while the Democrats want things to stay the same hence the rightward movement over the last 40 years.
The R's move it right while the D's make that new norm permanent.


Reality has a liberal bias and republicans do their best to turn back the clock and keep things wrong.
 
2021-02-28 12:11:25 PM  

runwiz: "No. 1, restoring election integrity in our country for fair and free elections.

Reality:  Creating a fake issue that elections are not fair and free and solving this fake issue by making elections less fair and free through gerrymandering and voter suppression.


Pretending that gerrymandering is specifically a Republican problem is pretty naive when you have even Democratic leaders calling out the Democratic party for gerrymandering. Both parties use it to their advantage.

I'm also amused by those on the left who oppose voter ID because they think it disenfranchises minorities whom they believe are apparently too poor or stupid to obtain an ID card. Providing ID isn't exactly a difficult step when it comes to voting, yet it's required to buy alcohol or cigarettes.
 
2021-02-28 12:20:26 PM  

Sumo Surfer: It's actually kind of scary watching one talking point hitting the cycle from 1 source and then within a day seeing every single talking head saying the exact same thing.

It's actually kind of funny you apparently think Democrats don't do this.


Yeah, totally.  Every single outlet and talking head immediately jumps on board in lockstep and there is absolutely never any dissent from anyone on the left.

Remember when Trump said inject bleach and shove UV lightbbs up your ass?  Check every right wing news site/talking head/surrogate/influencer.  Fox News, Ben Shapiro, the internet "comedian" Steven Crowder, etc all immediately started defending the talking point and tried to explain it away within HOURS of the statement.  Then Trump contradicted every single one of them and they all immediately changed their tune to parrot his talking point and not a single source came out to say "maybe this was a stupid comment."

Now go back just a couple of days and look at Biden opening back up one of the detention facilities for unaccompanied minors.  Left wing news sources/talking head/pundit/surrogates/influences.  Not a single one had a coherent message.  Was this good?  Bad?  Chaotically neutral?

For every 1 news story about a democratic policy or move you'll have 1 news story or commentary praising it and 2+ saying why it's bad or vice versa.  The left is nowhere near as in lockstep as the right is.  Not even close.  The left is full of wildly varying opinions and any commentor on it with any sway from news sources to youtubers will agree on any single item.  Either it's "too far" or not "far enough."  Nobody comes out of the woodwork to defend every single statement a politician/preaident makes.

It's funny you can't tell the difference.
 
2021-02-28 12:21:19 PM  
Being charitable, the only ideas I've seen produced over the past three decades from the GOP fall into three buckets:

1. Justify cutting taxes for the wealthy
2. Funneling public money into private firms
3. An enemy to hate so that we don't pay close enough attention to the first two

Trump delivered on all those fronts, he was just ugly and straightforward about it. Some folks are upset that the intellectual sounding justifications are missing.
 
2021-02-28 12:42:42 PM  

Aar1012: It used to revolve around a Senile Demagogue


Most policies revolved around cutting taxes on jelly beans.
 
2021-02-28 12:48:36 PM  
They have plenty of policy ideas: new and innovative gerrymandering, creative ways to prevent minorities and poor people from voting, fantastic new ways of brutalizing immigrants, amazing tax cuts for billionaires, etc. etc.
 
2021-02-28 12:54:55 PM  

Sumo Surfer: runwiz: "No. 1, restoring election integrity in our country for fair and free elections.

Reality:  Creating a fake issue that elections are not fair and free and solving this fake issue by making elections less fair and free through gerrymandering and voter suppression.

Pretending that gerrymandering is specifically a Republican problem is pretty naive when you have even Democratic leaders calling out the Democratic party for gerrymandering. Both parties use it to their advantage.

I'm also amused by those on the left who oppose voter ID because they think it disenfranchises minorities whom they believe are apparently too poor or stupid to obtain an ID card. Providing ID isn't exactly a difficult step when it comes to voting, yet it's required to buy alcohol or cigarettes.


Ah white privilege at it's finest.

Find any predominantly minority area, the find the nearest DMV to get an ID and then find the easiest route there.

Now check the hours for those facilities and imagine how easy it is to take time off of work (if they'll even allow it) to get there.  So they can either choose missing out on bills or being able to eat if they can even get there to get an ID.

If it's so easy to get an ID, why do so many minorities NOT have an ID.

I'm not even black, but I grew up pretty poor, in a predominately white upper middle class area.....  I didn't get my first ID until I was 19.  It was difficult for me to do so in an area where it's "easy" for people to do so.  It would've taken 3 busses and 2 trains to get to a location to get an ID.  It was not financially feasible and I couldn't get off work to do so.  I would've had to take a full day off of work to get it done.  And I just couldn't afford that.  I couldn't afford the multiple bus/train tickets, I couldn't afford the cost of attaining an ID, and I couldn't afford taking the time off of work if I wanted to be able to eat or keep lights/heat on.

Add on top of that being poor in general you don't have the most stable housing and sometimes you're moving every couple of months or every year, so then you're having to update the ID every time that happens.  It is not easy to do that as explained above.

Jim Greer and GOP strategist even admitted voting ID laws specifically targeted "democratic" voters.

You think it's easy to get an ID because it's easy for YOU.

Make getting ID easier for everyone and I'll allow it.  Or make a universal ID that is not tied to an address and you get automatically through schools (who can verify your identity) and that would work too.
 
2021-02-28 12:56:41 PM  
"Fair and free elections"?  So...it's only fair if the GOP candidate wins and all other election results and subsequent court decisions should be declared null and void?

/People wonder why I am a progressive in the AOC/Sanders camp.
 
2021-02-28 1:00:01 PM  
Look!  Who's that plummeting off the political cliff?
 
2021-02-28 1:06:55 PM  

Aar1012: It used to revolve around a Senile Demagogue


I honestly wonder if they're just hoping to keep this up until Trump dies of a McCoronary; then they can saint him, revise history and go back to saying the Nazi stuff quietly again.
 
2021-02-28 1:15:56 PM  
dkulprit: ...Now go back just a couple of days and look at Biden opening back up one of the detention facilities for unaccompanied minors.  Left wing news sources/talking head/pundit/surrogates/influences.  Not a single one had a coherent message.  Was this good?  Bad?  Chaotically neutral?

It's not possible to have a coherent message when the highest ranking member of the Democratic party does something that is blatantly hypocritical. Left wing news sources were certainly coherent however in reporting that the previously designated concentration camps were now merely "overflow facilities for migrant children". I won't hold my breath waiting for networks to report on Biden's child separation the way they did under the Trump administration.

dkulprit:For every 1 news story about a democratic policy or move you'll have 1 news story or commentary praising it and 2+ saying why it's bad or vice versa.  The left is nowhere near as in lockstep as the right is.  Not even close.  The left is full of wildly varying opinions and any commentor on it with any sway from news sources to youtubers will agree on any single item.

Democratic leaders state their talking points and too many lazy reporters parrot them, resulting in news outlets or networks like MSNBC and CNN dutifully reporting on manufactured stories that turn out to be duds (see Russian collusion). There is no shortage of video compilations demonstrating that many of their talking points are supported by arguments that are repeated verbatim.
 
2021-02-28 1:16:41 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: Aar1012: It used to revolve around a Senile Demagogue

I honestly wonder if they're just hoping to keep this up until Trump dies of a McCoronary; then they can saint him, revise history and go back to saying the Nazi stuff quietly again.


The fever won't break. Hawley, Cotton & Cruz have shown every indication that they've learned Trumps m.o.
 
2021-02-28 1:31:32 PM  
Cthulhu's tantacular vagina, where centipedes come from.
 
2021-02-28 1:43:37 PM  

dkulprit: It was not financially feasible and I couldn't get off work to do so.  I would've had to take a full day off of work to get it done.  And I just couldn't afford that.  I couldn't afford the multiple bus/train tickets, I couldn't afford the cost of attaining an ID, and I couldn't afford taking the time off of work if I wanted to be able to eat or keep lights/heat on.


How'd you get a job without an ID? How did you cash checks, or deposit them, presumably in a bank account which you need an ID to open? How did you eventually obtain an ID? My guess is that it eventually involved some planning and personal responsibility on your part. For the record, I support easier access or free IDs for those who cannot afford them. Free or reduced-cost programs already exist in my state.

Minorities are not too poor or too stupid to get an ID, and Democrats should stop treating them that way.
 
2021-02-28 2:09:04 PM  
An idea factory entirely built around the idea that the rich get all the money.  Real geniuses, these guys.
 
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