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2021-02-28 2:39:42 AM  
Make another show and aggregate all the content in yet another $5/month streaming service?  Brilliant.
 
2021-02-28 2:53:29 AM  
Butt stuff?
 
2021-02-28 3:14:03 AM  
The kids-focused series will join the rest of Alex Kurtzman's other Star Trek originals


so anyway...anyone else enjoying The Expanse?
 
2021-02-28 4:42:57 AM  

foo monkey: Make another show and aggregate all the content in yet another $5/month streaming service?  Brilliant.


Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no streaming service has gone before.
 
2021-02-28 5:26:42 AM  
Stick a fork in it?
 
2021-02-28 6:32:49 AM  
Conspicuously absent from the list is "make good Star Trek."
 
2021-02-28 6:44:37 AM  
That poor franchise.
 
2021-02-28 6:56:56 AM  
Well, as long as I can get Lower Decks until Disney eventually acquires and fixes Star Trek, I'm good.

Yes, that is horrifying. Yes, it would save the franchise. But at what cost? BUT AT WHAT COST?
 
2021-02-28 7:38:56 AM  
"It follows a group of lawless teens who discover a derelict Starfleet ship and use it to search for adventure "
"Trek was always fully formed adults, already in Starfleet and people who have decided who they are. And it never was aspirational that way. It's important to me to find a way to go back and reach younger kids in a way that Trek should and never really has,"



What you're saying is the Prodigy isn't really Star Trek, scumbag. They're just gonna keep digging-up Gene's corpse to rape it, repeatedly penetrating every single one of its orifices.
 
2021-02-28 7:45:59 AM  

log_jammin: The kids-focused series will join the rest of Alex Kurtzman's other Star Trek originals


so anyway...anyone else enjoying The Expanse?


The Expanse is what Star Trek could have been, should have been, but is absolutely in no way shape or form anything close.

I just finished watching, somewhat, last season of Discovery. I could barely finish 1st season of Picard and was shocked to see that show was not canceled. Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t. But if you turn volume off, do not pay any attention to dialog, story, drama, etc.. and just catch a few of the special effects and visuals, show is 1/2 way watchable
 
2021-02-28 7:52:22 AM  

log_jammin: The kids-focused series will join the rest of Alex Kurtzman's other Star Trek originals


so anyway...anyone else enjoying The Expanse?


Yes, although this is the first season I likely won't rewatch.  I've watched the others several times.  (My issue is not that I don't like Naomi, but that Tipper does such a good job of conveying her complete agony).

A show where the science fiction is inherent but secondary to the human motivations that drive the plot.

If they ever reverse the polarity of the tachyon emitters, I'm out.
 
2021-02-28 8:18:20 AM  
Star Trek started to suck for me just as Star Wars became really interesting with the Clone Wars and Rebels content.

I honestly don't think anyone less than Favreau could resuscitate the Trek franchise.
 
2021-02-28 8:32:24 AM  

Bslim: "It follows a group of lawless teens who discover a derelict Starfleet ship and use it to search for adventure "
"Trek was always fully formed adults, already in Starfleet and people who have decided who they are. And it never was aspirational that way. It's important to me to find a way to go back and reach younger kids in a way that Trek should and never really has,"


What you're saying is the Prodigy isn't really Star Trek, scumbag. They're just gonna keep digging-up Gene's corpse to rape it, repeatedly penetrating every single one of its orifices.


I don't know what the trouble is with regular Star Trek being a kids show.  I was watching TNG as it was released by 3rd/4th grade.  I know others my age that watched TOS with family.  Star Trek works as a kids show already.
 
2021-02-28 8:43:46 AM  
ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.
 
2021-02-28 8:48:03 AM  
Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t.

Best description of Discovery I have ever come across.
 
2021-02-28 9:04:57 AM  
Alex Kurtzman is everywhere and ruins everything.
 
2021-02-28 9:11:56 AM  

Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.


Found the SJW.
 
2021-02-28 9:25:40 AM  

WhippingBoi: Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.

Found the SJW.


Well, obviously!
 
2021-02-28 9:28:55 AM  

Bslim: WhippingBoi: Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.

Found the SJW.

Well, obviously!


Hey man, all joking aside, I do give you a lot of credit for actually admitting that Discovery is garbage... there's a lot of people still trying to polish that turd...
 
2021-02-28 9:31:13 AM  
I enjoyed Discovery.  Shrug.
 
2021-02-28 9:36:34 AM  

buntz: I enjoyed Discovery.  Shrug.


Me too. And also Picard.
 
2021-02-28 9:36:45 AM  
1. Jettison Michael Burnham from Discovery, and the franchise in general.  The character concept was solid, and she was at least tolerable through most of season 2, but in Season 3 she is dragging down the whole show with her ever-increasing MarySuedom.  You have to go all the way back to TNG 1st season to find Trek this bad, and it's mostly because of this one character.

2.  plus why does she whisper every single freaking line???

3. Expand Lower Decks to 20 episodes/season, give the creators as much free reign as they want.  Their first season started shaky but got better and better and ended brilliantly.

4. Go full steam on Strange New Worlds.  Pike was and still is the best thing STD ever did (with Captain Saru being a close second.)

5.  Let ST: Picard go.  It wasn't awful but it wasn't great either.  It could be seen as a fitting send-off to the character, though--he is pretty heroic at the end--so just let him rest there.

6. There have been talks of a ST: Sisko.  DO IT!
 
2021-02-28 9:37:56 AM  
If they really want a dark, gritty universe that doesn't resemble Gene's wagon train to the stars, then go full bore and give us a Star Fleet Battles universe series.  All you have to do is to re-skin the Kzinti.
 
2021-02-28 9:39:02 AM  

kyleaugustus: Bslim: "It follows a group of lawless teens who discover a derelict Starfleet ship and use it to search for adventure "
"Trek was always fully formed adults, already in Starfleet and people who have decided who they are. And it never was aspirational that way. It's important to me to find a way to go back and reach younger kids in a way that Trek should and never really has,"


What you're saying is the Prodigy isn't really Star Trek, scumbag. They're just gonna keep digging-up Gene's corpse to rape it, repeatedly penetrating every single one of its orifices.

I don't know what the trouble is with regular Star Trek being a kids show.  I was watching TNG as it was released by 3rd/4th grade.  I know others my age that watched TOS with family.  Star Trek works as a kids show already.


I grew up with TOS, Kirk was like a second, cooler father. I remember asking myself as a wee little one, "What would Kirk do in this situation?"

The new concept people are morons.
 
2021-02-28 9:43:53 AM  
The Orville is still better Trek then any of the NuTrek.
 
2021-02-28 9:50:18 AM  
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If you removed "Star Trek" from that imagine, it would be indistinguishable from all the other generic as fark cartoons I've seen on all the other streaming services. They really will throw the ST name onto anything these days, won't they?
 
2021-02-28 9:51:46 AM  
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If you removed the Star Trek title, it would be indistinguishable from all the other generic cartoons I've seen on half a dozen streaming services. They really will throw the ST name on anything these days, won't they.
 
2021-02-28 9:52:16 AM  

Herr Morgenstern: [blog.trekcore.com image 850x540]

If you removed the Star Trek title, it would be indistinguishable from all the other generic cartoons I've seen on half a dozen streaming services. They really will throw the ST name on anything these days, won't they.


Goddamnitsomuch. It really looked like my first attempt hadn't posted. Sorry for the repeat.
 
2021-02-28 10:39:45 AM  

Herr Morgenstern: Herr Morgenstern: [blog.trekcore.com image 850x540]

If you removed the Star Trek title, it would be indistinguishable from all the other generic cartoons I've seen on half a dozen streaming services. They really will throw the ST name on anything these days, won't they.

Goddamnitsomuch. It really looked like my first attempt hadn't posted. Sorry for the repeat.


Considering how, as you correctly put it, looks copied from any number of kids' shows/video games, it's appropriate that you post it twice.
 
2021-02-28 10:46:21 AM  
Dhusk: 6. There have been talks of a ST: Sisko. DO IT!

I dunno, isn't he a prophet or something now? I mean, anything is possible with these things but if any ST show had a definitive ending it's DS9.

"Picard" was dreary AF but it was worth it for Jeri Ryan and Jonathon Frakes was actually pretty cool.
 
2021-02-28 10:47:58 AM  

WhippingBoi: Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.

Found the SJW.


Found the sad incel...
 
2021-02-28 10:54:26 AM  

Dhusk: 1. Jettison Michael Burnham from Discovery, and the franchise in general.  The character concept was solid, and she was at least tolerable through most of season 2, but in Season 3 she is dragging down the whole show with her ever-increasing MarySuedom.  You have to go all the way back to TNG 1st season to find Trek this bad, and it's mostly because of this one character.

2.  plus why does she whisper every single freaking line???

3. Expand Lower Decks to 20 episodes/season, give the creators as much free reign as they want.  Their first season started shaky but got better and better and ended brilliantly.

4. Go full steam on Strange New Worlds.  Pike was and still is the best thing STD ever did (with Captain Saru being a close second.)

5.  Let ST: Picard go.  It wasn't awful but it wasn't great either.  It could be seen as a fitting send-off to the character, though--he is pretty heroic at the end--so just let him rest there.

6. There have been talks of a ST: Sisko.  DO IT!


The Michael Burnam character HAD promise....as did the show...but the show became "everybody loves michael" and by the end of the horrible 3rd season she was just an appalling "she can do and knows everything"trope, with the leaping between moving turbolifts while acting like Black Widow, just appalling. Toss her and the show out the airlock.
 
2021-02-28 11:00:37 AM  

batlock666: buntz: I enjoyed Discovery.  Shrug.

Me too. And also Picard.


We ended up hating discovery...but there was more good to Picard than not. It has a pretty solid 87 on rotten tomatoes.
 
2021-02-28 11:37:05 AM  
1) the Michael Burnham character was not promising because they decided to have her be connected to Sarek for no reason.

2) yes The Orville is significantly better than any nu-trek (save Lower Decks, which surprised the hell out of me after that shiatty  trailer) but that's something to be sad about, not celebrate, because The Orville isn't very good.
 
2021-02-28 12:11:00 PM  

kyleaugustus: Bslim: "It follows a group of lawless teens who discover a derelict Starfleet ship and use it to search for adventure "
"Trek was always fully formed adults, already in Starfleet and people who have decided who they are. And it never was aspirational that way. It's important to me to find a way to go back and reach younger kids in a way that Trek should and never really has,"


What you're saying is the Prodigy isn't really Star Trek, scumbag. They're just gonna keep digging-up Gene's corpse to rape it, repeatedly penetrating every single one of its orifices.

I don't know what the trouble is with regular Star Trek being a kids show.  I was watching TNG as it was released by 3rd/4th grade.  I know others my age that watched TOS with family.  Star Trek works as a kids show already.


I would know that he never seen my copybooks from the early '70's with all of my drawings, or my collection of
AMT models.

He is astonishingly stupid.

He is the latest reason why I don't care to watch much of Star Trek. Trek in the '70's is what I watched after my homework was done, and in the 90's, something to chill with after completing work. I really can't relax to a xeno-necrobestiality-torture porn fantasy vehicle propped up just to lazily sell a dying IP.

/also when growing up, the guys that sported horn rimmed glasses, say, Tom Lehrer, John Chancellor or Woody Allen (sorry) signalled the brightest bulbs of intelligentsia.  (hell, even Mr. Peabody)
//nowadays especially with Kurtzman and Abrams, it's just an prop to signal something that is average or just isn't there at all.
 
2021-02-28 12:25:42 PM  

Herr Morgenstern: [blog.trekcore.com image 850x540]

If you removed "Star Trek" from that imagine, it would be indistinguishable from all the other generic as fark cartoons I've seen on all the other streaming services. They really will throw the ST name onto anything these days, won't they?


And I know I am not to hate on something unseen just based on character design, but, I'll just concede
that it's another offering from CBS that's not for this oldster.

/just getting a vague PS3-4 video gamey feel.
//and didn't want to use human, ferengi, vulcan or klingon models because their
characters are fresher and better focus tested, I guess?
 
2021-02-28 12:57:17 PM  

Mugato: Dhusk: 6. There have been talks of a ST: Sisko. DO IT!

I dunno, isn't he a prophet or something now? I mean, anything is possible with these things but if any ST show had a definitive ending it's DS9.

"Picard" was dreary AF but it was worth it for Jeri Ryan and Jonathon Frakes was actually pretty cool.


Then maybe a show that explores what happened with the DS9 region after the war ended. I always thought there was deep potential in featuring whether a rebuilding and occupied Cardassia becomes a chaotic, lawless hellhole or not. Does Bajor want their former conquerer built back up? Remember how Ronny Cox described the 'business' opportunities in building New Detroit in the first RoboCop? Picture some Orion or Ferengi making that pitch on a planetary scale.

Also, very much looking forward to Strange New Worlds. If the creative team was smart, they'd try as hard as they can to emulate the spirit of TOS and TNG. Doesn't need to be grimdark or brooding, hopeful and earnest would be fine.  Though now you have a Captain Pike that knows his ultimate fate and has to live with.
And I say Archer shows up in the pilot and Kirk appears in the finale.
 
2021-02-28 1:16:37 PM  
I very much enjoyed Picard, mostly because it's a startrek show, that isn't really done in a star-trekish manner at all.  I'm sure most trekkies hated it for that reason, but it's the sole reason I loved it.  There was a few gripes but for the most part, it was well done.

/I'll likely sign up again when season 2 drops, but I otherwise don't really care for anything on there.
 
2021-02-28 1:27:55 PM  

Your_Huckleberry: Mugato: Dhusk: 6. There have been talks of a ST: Sisko. DO IT!

I dunno, isn't he a prophet or something now? I mean, anything is possible with these things but if any ST show had a definitive ending it's DS9.

"Picard" was dreary AF but it was worth it for Jeri Ryan and Jonathon Frakes was actually pretty cool.

Then maybe a show that explores what happened with the DS9 region after the war ended. I always thought there was deep potential in featuring whether a rebuilding and occupied Cardassia becomes a chaotic, lawless hellhole or not. Does Bajor want their former conquerer built back up? Remember how Ronny Cox described the 'business' opportunities in building New Detroit in the first RoboCop? Picture some Orion or Ferengi making that pitch on a planetary scale.

Also, very much looking forward to Strange New Worlds. If the creative team was smart, they'd try as hard as they can to emulate the spirit of TOS and TNG. Doesn't need to be grimdark or brooding, hopeful and earnest would be fine.  Though now you have a Captain Pike that knows his ultimate fate and has to live with.
And I say Archer shows up in the pilot and Kirk appears in the finale.


DS9 is my favorite but continuing the show would have to explain a ton of back story.
 
2021-02-28 1:51:43 PM  

Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.


This I can agree with wholeheartedly. It wasn't the characters or the positions they held that made Discovery trash, it was the shiatty writing.  I forced myself to watch the show basically because I got the streaming trial and I was damned well going to use up my free access by watching the shows I couldn't see anywhere else.  I completely gave up on Discovery at the final Mirror Universe episode and it's ending.

ENTIRE CREW: Captain, don't take Burnham with you. She is a traitor.  She'll get you killed.

30 minutes later.

BURNHAM: Hey guys it's me.  The captain was actually the evil mirror universe version so I killed him.  Can you come pick me up? Oh and BTW I'm bringing the evil emperor back because she's not that bad after all.

ENTIRE CREW: Burnham, you're our hero. Thank you for saving us by revealing our evil captain for what he was.



She literally did what the crew was warning the captain she would do. Betrayed him, worked with the enemy, and got the captain killed.  And then they just accept her word that the captain was really a bad guy.  They should would have just immediately blown up the enemy station and left.
 
2021-02-28 2:05:42 PM  

Noah_Tall: Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.

This I can agree with wholeheartedly. It wasn't the characters or the positions they held that made Discovery trash, it was the shiatty writing.  I forced myself to watch the show basically because I got the streaming trial and I was damned well going to use up my free access by watching the shows I couldn't see anywhere else.  I completely gave up on Discovery at the final Mirror Universe episode and it's ending.

ENTIRE CREW: Captain, don't take Burnham with you. She is a traitor.  She'll get you killed.

30 minutes later.

BURNHAM: Hey guys it's me.  The captain was actually the evil mirror universe version so I killed him.  Can you come pick me up? Oh and BTW I'm bringing the evil emperor back because she's not that bad after all.

ENTIRE CREW: Burnham, you're our hero. Thank you for saving us by revealing our evil captain for what he was.


She literally did what the crew was warning the captain she would do. Betrayed him, worked with the enemy, and got the captain killed.  And then they just accept her word that the captain was really a bad guy.  They should would have just immediately blown up the enemy station and left.


And you know, I really gave the latest season the ol' college try. I guessed, what-da-hell the Burnham/Sarek family drama is done, they've travelled centuries into future...
*smh*
Turns out the f*ckers *TRIPLED* down on the first officer Burnham's wiping her ass with anything to do with following orders, chain-of-command.  Basically a one officer crew who got to do, whatever. There was no teamwork. Just her and her new boyfriend Starfleet be damned. Even the shiateous Enterprise had a Starfleet crew, solving problems AS A STARFLEET CREW.
What I saw on Discovery was just..grotesque. And a waste of the rest of the rest of the cast's talent.
 
2021-02-28 2:20:54 PM  

Bslim: Noah_Tall: Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.

This I can agree with wholeheartedly. It wasn't the characters or the positions they held that made Discovery trash, it was the shiatty writing.  I forced myself to watch the show basically because I got the streaming trial and I was damned well going to use up my free access by watching the shows I couldn't see anywhere else.  I completely gave up on Discovery at the final Mirror Universe episode and it's ending.

ENTIRE CREW: Captain, don't take Burnham with you. She is a traitor.  She'll get you killed.

30 minutes later.

BURNHAM: Hey guys it's me.  The captain was actually the evil mirror universe version so I killed him.  Can you come pick me up? Oh and BTW I'm bringing the evil emperor back because she's not that bad after all.

ENTIRE CREW: Burnham, you're our hero. Thank you for saving us by revealing our evil captain for what he was.


She literally did what the crew was warning the captain she would do. Betrayed him, worked with the enemy, and got the captain killed.  And then they just accept her word that the captain was really a bad guy.  They should would have just immediately blown up the enemy station and left.

And you know, I really gave the latest season the ol' college try. I guessed, what-da-hell the Burnham/Sarek family drama is done, they've travelled centuries into future...
*smh*
Turns out the f*ckers *TRIPLED* down on the first officer Burnham's wiping her ass with anything to do with following orders, chain-of-command.  Basically a one officer crew who got to do, whatever. There was no teamwork. Just her and her new boyfriend Starfleet be damned. Even the shiateous Enterprise had a Starfleet crew, solving problems AS A STARFLEET CREW.
What I saw on Discovery was just..grotesque. And a waste of the rest of the rest of the cast's talent.


Control wasn't the real reason Starfleet was ok with Discovery going to the future... They just knew they would have been rid of their worst performing ship
 
2021-02-28 2:29:32 PM  
Oh, and comparatively, by the last episode of DS9 --a show with just a fraction of Disco's budget-- they managed to present and wrap up:
* Sisko's journey as a Starfleet officer, widower, father, emissary, newlywed, and motherf*cking prophet.
*Kira's as former terrorist/freedom fighter, Bajoran/Federation officer, person of faith, three romances and final commitment Odo
Odo's as security chief under different powers, changeling alone then dealing with being part of an aggressive race, adversarial relationship with Quark (ending in friendship)
Nog's from station urchin to heroic Starfleet officer.
And so on, and so on, Bashir, Dax, Worf, Martok, Damar, Rom, Leeta EVEN WORF'S USELESS KID, every character of note got their complete arc all through the show.
 
2021-02-28 2:35:45 PM  

jake3988: I very much enjoyed Picard, mostly because it's a startrek show, that isn't really done in a star-trekish manner at all.  I'm sure most trekkies hated it for that reason, but it's the sole reason I loved it.  There was a few gripes but for the most part, it was well done.

/I'll likely sign up again when season 2 drops, but I otherwise don't really care for anything on there.


I liked Picard, but the problem is in the title itself.  PS is getting too old to be believeable doing much of anything.  He looks great for his age...but he looks his age.  He looks like your old uncle at family dinners and you're impressed when he manages not to fall asleep in his pea soup.
 
2021-02-28 2:38:50 PM  

Bslim: Noah_Tall: Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.

This I can agree with wholeheartedly. It wasn't the characters or the positions they held that made Discovery trash, it was the shiatty writing.  I forced myself to watch the show basically because I got the streaming trial and I was damned well going to use up my free access by watching the shows I couldn't see anywhere else.  I completely gave up on Discovery at the final Mirror Universe episode and it's ending.

ENTIRE CREW: Captain, don't take Burnham with you. She is a traitor.  She'll get you killed.

30 minutes later.

BURNHAM: Hey guys it's me.  The captain was actually the evil mirror universe version so I killed him.  Can you come pick me up? Oh and BTW I'm bringing the evil emperor back because she's not that bad after all.

ENTIRE CREW: Burnham, you're our hero. Thank you for saving us by revealing our evil captain for what he was.


She literally did what the crew was warning the captain she would do. Betrayed him, worked with the enemy, and got the captain killed.  And then they just accept her word that the captain was really a bad guy.  They should would have just immediately blown up the enemy station and left.

And you know, I really gave the latest season the ol' college try. I guessed, what-da-hell the Burnham/Sarek family drama is done, they've travelled centuries into future...
*smh*
Turns out the f*ckers *TRIPLED* down on the first officer Burnham's wiping her ass with anything to do with following orders, chain-of-command.  Basically a one officer crew who got to do, whatever. There was no teamwork. Just her and her new boyfriend Starfleet be damned. Even the shiateous Enterprise had a Starfleet crew, solving problems AS A STARFLEET CREW.
What I saw on Discovery was just..grotesque. And a waste of the rest of the rest of the cast's talent.


Not to mention crying. Quite literally every member of the crew teared up at a drop of a hat and everyone looked at Michael Burnham as if she was the latest incarnation of their lord and savior, all with dewey eyes. Some of the supporting cast was good and I loved captain pike, but Michael Burnham's character is so badly realized, so badly executed, so truly appalling in every way that it is one of the few shows I would happily throw in a dumpster fire. All that potential flush down the toilet. And to waste Michelle Yoah.. and actually have her character devolve into yet another Michael Burnham cheerleader Love fest fan was horrifying.
 
2021-02-28 2:45:53 PM  

cocozilla: Bslim: Noah_Tall: Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.

This I can agree with wholeheartedly. It wasn't the characters or the positions they held that made Discovery trash, it was the shiatty writing.  I forced myself to watch the show basically because I got the streaming trial and I was damned well going to use up my free access by watching the shows I couldn't see anywhere else.  I completely gave up on Discovery at the final Mirror Universe episode and it's ending.

ENTIRE CREW: Captain, don't take Burnham with you. She is a traitor.  She'll get you killed.

30 minutes later.

BURNHAM: Hey guys it's me.  The captain was actually the evil mirror universe version so I killed him.  Can you come pick me up? Oh and BTW I'm bringing the evil emperor back because she's not that bad after all.

ENTIRE CREW: Burnham, you're our hero. Thank you for saving us by revealing our evil captain for what he was.


She literally did what the crew was warning the captain she would do. Betrayed him, worked with the enemy, and got the captain killed.  And then they just accept her word that the captain was really a bad guy.  They should would have just immediately blown up the enemy station and left.

And you know, I really gave the latest season the ol' college try. I guessed, what-da-hell the Burnham/Sarek family drama is done, they've travelled centuries into future...
*smh*
Turns out the f*ckers *TRIPLED* down on the first officer Burnham's wiping her ass with anything to do with following orders, chain-of-command.  Basically a one officer crew who got to do, whatever. There was no teamwork. Just her and her new boyfriend Starfleet be damned. Even the shiateous Enterprise had a Starfleet crew, solving problems AS A STARFLEET CREW.
What I saw on Discovery was just..grotesque. And a waste of the rest of the rest of the cast's talent.

Not to mention crying. Quite literally every member of the crew teared up at a drop of a hat and everyone looked at Michael Burnham as if she was the latest incarnation of their lord and savior, all with dewey eyes. Some of the supporting cast was good and I loved captain pike, but Michael Burnham's character is so badly realized, so badly executed, so truly appalling in every way that it is one of the few shows I would happily throw in a dumpster fire. All that potential flush down the toilet. And to waste Michelle Yoah.. and actually have her character devolve into yet another Michael Burnham cheerleader Love fest fan was horrifying.


*NO SPOILERS*

If you saw the season finale you'll know what I'm talking about when I say the Tilly character got hosed in the worst way possible.
I couldn't believe the shiat the writers pulled on her.
 
2021-02-28 4:17:54 PM  

Bslim: cocozilla: Bslim: Noah_Tall: Bslim: ssa5:

Now Discovery has jumped the Megladon of sharks to became this woke fan service retconorama of pure anything but science Deus Ex fantasy bull***t


I'll be the first one here to state Discovery is unadulterated garbage. That said, by your unironic use of "woke" (I bet you tried to stick an "sjw" in there too) I know exactly what kind of creature you are.
Aaaanyhoo, just a reminder that Roddenberry was the guy who brought the concepts you refer to as "woke" to TV. So having a female of color as the lead is not the problem with the show. If it were your ideal casting ---which I'm guessing is all white males and a token Orion showing her tits --- the show would still suck because the story and its execution are terrible.

This I can agree with wholeheartedly. It wasn't the characters or the positions they held that made Discovery trash, it was the shiatty writing.  I forced myself to watch the show basically because I got the streaming trial and I was damned well going to use up my free access by watching the shows I couldn't see anywhere else.  I completely gave up on Discovery at the final Mirror Universe episode and it's ending.

ENTIRE CREW: Captain, don't take Burnham with you. She is a traitor.  She'll get you killed.

30 minutes later.

BURNHAM: Hey guys it's me.  The captain was actually the evil mirror universe version so I killed him.  Can you come pick me up? Oh and BTW I'm bringing the evil emperor back because she's not that bad after all.

ENTIRE CREW: Burnham, you're our hero. Thank you for saving us by revealing our evil captain for what he was.


She literally did what the crew was warning the captain she would do. Betrayed him, worked with the enemy, and got the captain killed.  And then they just accept her word that the captain was really a bad guy.  They should would have just immediately blown up the enemy station and left.

And you know, I really gave the latest season the ol' college try. I guessed, what-da-hell the Burnham/Sarek family drama is done, they've travelled centuries into future...
*smh*
Turns out the f*ckers *TRIPLED* down on the first officer Burnham's wiping her ass with anything to do with following orders, chain-of-command.  Basically a one officer crew who got to do, whatever. There was no teamwork. Just her and her new boyfriend Starfleet be damned. Even the shiateous Enterprise had a Starfleet crew, solving problems AS A STARFLEET CREW.
What I saw on Discovery was just..grotesque. And a waste of the rest of the rest of the cast's talent.

Not to mention crying. Quite literally every member of the crew teared up at a drop of a hat and everyone looked at Michael Burnham as if she was the latest incarnation of their lord and savior, all with dewey eyes. Some of the supporting cast was good and I loved captain pike, but Michael Burnham's character is so badly realized, so badly executed, so truly appalling in every way that it is one of the few shows I would happily throw in a dumpster fire. All that potential flush down the toilet. And to waste Michelle Yoah.. and actually have her character devolve into yet another Michael Burnham cheerleader Love fest fan was horrifying.

*NO SPOILERS*

If you saw the season finale you'll know what I'm talking about when I say the Tilly character got hosed in the worst way possible.
I couldn't believe the shiat the writers pulled on her.


because apparently , according to the showrunners and writers of this goddamn series, no character can actually do anything on their own. No other character can truly shine. Michael Burnham has to do everything. Or Michael Burnham has to be the inspiration for everything. Or Michael Burnham has to have the idea for everything. Or Michael Burnham can fling herself down an elevator shaft, grab another turbo lift with her teeth, swing herself in ,kill all the bad guys, while simultaneously making a tremendous French cuisine dish and solving everyone's emotional and intellectual problems. every watch some of the original series lately and it's the same thing you got on my nerves with kirk. Because of shatner's ego Kirk always had to be the one coming up with the brilliant ideas. Even when it was totally inappropriate for the situation or the character.
 
2021-02-28 5:32:25 PM  
Will someone please explain to me how:

1. The Discovery suddenly became a Tardis with an interior that looked like something from "The Cube"?
2. Why some kid the freaks out when his mom dies suddenly disables warp drive because of um....dilithium. That character had to the most gd annoying....
3. Why everyone is afraid to criticize the over the top "wokeness"? Funny how Gene Roddenberry's previous versions of Star Trek were able to demonstrate inclusiveness and tolerance without demonizing anybody
4. Why'd they ruin Tilly's character?
5. Nobody has mentioned how no writer can make a decent space battle in this series?

Agree with the Barnham comments. This show has turned into hot garbage.
 
2021-02-28 5:47:05 PM  
Frothy Panties:

3. Why everyone is afraid to criticize the over the top "wokeness"? Funny how Gene Roddenberry's previous versions of Star Trek were able to demonstrate inclusiveness and tolerance without demonizing anybody


Explain yourself
 
2021-02-28 5:50:50 PM  
And just so we are clear, if your explanation has any whiff of the brigading nerd bullshiat from the rancid Star Wars "fandom" it will go straight out the airlock.
 
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