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(Yahoo)   Tim O'Brien has seen Trump's taxes and he believes the accountant is going to flip. Oh please oh please oh please, subby won't ask for anything for Christmas, just give us this   (yahoo.com) divider line
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2021-02-26 4:16:13 PM  
Allen Weisselberg is not only the Trump organization "accountant" he is the CFO of Trump, org. and he approved and he co-signed at least some of the checks to Michael Cohen to cover up the "Individual-1" hush money payments to Stormy Daniels. N.Y. State has a specific law against creating false business records which can get you a Class E felony separate and apart from possible state tax/bank/insurance fraud.
 
2021-02-26 4:18:18 PM  
Allen's probably got his name on one of those sharpie pocket pardons that Trump left in the Resolute Desk before he left.
 
2021-02-26 4:25:39 PM  
Trump's taxes being delivered to the AG. Nothing to see here, please move on.... 
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2021-02-26 4:27:06 PM  

emersonbiggins: Allen's probably got his name on one of those sharpie pocket pardons that Trump left in the Resolute Desk before he left.


too bad it is a state prosecution
 
2021-02-26 4:27:40 PM  
I'm sure there will be massive fraud all over his returns, but I want to see some income connected to Russia.
 
2021-02-26 4:57:26 PM  

Badmoodman: I'm sure there will be massive fraud all over his returns, but I want to see some income connected to Russia.


We've seen it.  The Russians have been buying up Trump properties like they were hot cakes for years now.
 
2021-02-26 5:00:37 PM  
You can ask Snackbar about it, but I had him on the "next up for federal indictment" watch for forever.
 
2021-02-26 5:02:29 PM  
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Sadly, that's not true. See Lyndon LaRouche.
Interestingly, Trump could readily be convicted of crimes very similar to those of LaRouche if they went after his raising money to "Stop the Steal". Also be a good reason to confiscate his slush fund.
 
2021-02-26 5:04:58 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Badmoodman: I'm sure there will be massive fraud all over his returns, but I want to see some income connected to Russia.

We've seen it.  The Russians have been buying up Trump properties like they were hot cakes for years now.


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2021-02-26 5:05:46 PM  
I am hopeful that something comes of this, but based on D.A. Cy Vance and his history(See his inaction in 2017), I seriously doubt anything will happen with either Trump or his spawn. Their accountants and underlings will be the ones thrown under the bus and run over a few thousand times, but unfortunately I think Trumps will walk away unscathed. Trump has always gotten away with everything and has plenty of help from corrupt as hell officials and others to shield him from his crimes.
 
2021-02-26 5:06:04 PM  

Myrdinn: You can ask Snackbar about it, but I had him on the "next up for federal indictment" watch for forever.


LOL yeah, I remember back when we thought there would be justice or consequences. Such simpler, naive times...
 
2021-02-26 5:06:07 PM  
AW flipping on DJT would be game over, man.

He not only knows where the bodies are buried but he knows how much change they had in their pockets at the time.
 
2021-02-26 5:06:49 PM  
This must mean something huge is about to drop. I'm thinking by Friday
 
2021-02-26 5:06:49 PM  
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2021-02-26 5:06:57 PM  
Trump's tax returns would have been filed in the fiction section of the library.
 
2021-02-26 5:07:18 PM  
Weisselberg didn't kill himself
 
2021-02-26 5:08:37 PM  
It's pretty obvious they are going to find tax fraud. What I see happening is a big fine and that's it. I would be happy to be wrong, but I don't see him going to prison.
 
2021-02-26 5:09:39 PM  

emersonbiggins: Allen's probably got his name on one of those sharpie pocket pardons that Trump left in the Resolute Desk before he left.


Which won't cover his troubles with the Manhattan DA.
 
2021-02-26 5:11:26 PM  
I'm not agreeing that is what will happen but often that is the prosecutorial strategy in these cases.  Start at the bottom and keep flipping people as you work your way up the food chain.
 
2021-02-26 5:11:36 PM  

west.la.lawyer: emersonbiggins: Allen's probably got his name on one of those sharpie pocket pardons that Trump left in the Resolute Desk before he left.

too bad it is a state prosecution


State prison, from my poor understanding of these things, is no where near as nice as a Federal lock up.
 
2021-02-26 5:12:50 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Myrdinn: You can ask Snackbar about it, but I had him on the "next up for federal indictment" watch for forever.

LOL yeah, I remember back when we thought there would be justice or consequences. Such simpler, naive times...


If he DOES end up charged, I want the "longest running from behind and still won" badge for the series.
 
2021-02-26 5:13:58 PM  
Consequences for Trump be like:
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2021-02-26 5:15:45 PM  

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2021-02-26 5:17:25 PM  
Apropos of nothing, some jackoff state rep or senator in SC yesterday introduced a bill in the General Assembly to allow trump to be buried on SC State House grounds if he isn't buried at Arlington. I feel conflicted about it. On the one hand fark the ignorant jackwagons that think that orange farkwit deserves any kind of state honor (especially when he has no connection whatsoever to this state (But it's South Carolina so we all know it will actually pass - fark this state), on the other hand it will make trips to piss on his grave extremely convenient (less than a 2 hour drive), on the other other hand it may make it more difficult to piss on his grave without picking up an indecent exposure charge.
 
2021-02-26 5:19:42 PM  

bobobolinskii: west.la.lawyer: emersonbiggins: Allen's probably got his name on one of those sharpie pocket pardons that Trump left in the Resolute Desk before he left.

too bad it is a state prosecution

State prison, from my poor understanding of these things, is no where near as nice as a Federal lock up.


Attica has absolutely no history of rioting and whatnot.
 
2021-02-26 5:19:44 PM  

thealgorerhythm: Weisselberg didn't kill himself



YET.
Weisselberg didn't kill himself yet.
 
2021-02-26 5:22:07 PM  

transporter_ii: It's pretty obvious they are going to find tax fraud. What I see happening is a big fine and that's it. I would be happy to be wrong, but I don't see him going to prison.


Of course not.  If you or I cheat on our tax it's straight to jail.  If millionaires or billionaires do it then it's a fine.  A slap on the wrist.
 
2021-02-26 5:23:38 PM  

i state your name: Apropos of nothing, some jackoff state rep or senator in SC yesterday introduced a bill in the General Assembly to allow trump to be buried on SC State House grounds if he isn't buried at Arlington. I feel conflicted about it. On the one hand fark the ignorant jackwagons that think that orange farkwit deserves any kind of state honor (especially when he has no connection whatsoever to this state (But it's South Carolina so we all know it will actually pass - fark this state), on the other hand it will make trips to piss on his grave extremely convenient (less than a 2 hour drive), on the other other hand it may make it more difficult to piss on his grave without picking up an indecent exposure charge.


Trump would absolutely HATE to be buried there. Not enough gaudy, fake gold crap, and too many rubes.

So I support this completely.
 
2021-02-26 5:24:03 PM  

i state your name: trump to be buried on SC State House grounds


I'll allow it as long as they bury him tomorrow, while he's still sucking air, and wasting our planet's resources.
 
2021-02-26 5:26:25 PM  
I swear, I think the average farker thinks frump sits down at his dining room table and fills out his 1040-ez each year, signs it, then mails it off.
 
2021-02-26 5:27:48 PM  
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2021-02-26 5:27:53 PM  

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Not with that attitude
 
2021-02-26 5:28:34 PM  
I will believe it when I see i. Trump is pretty savvy, not one to make stupid illegal mistakes on paper
 
2021-02-26 5:30:30 PM  
I look forward to reading The Taxes They Carried
 
2021-02-26 5:31:32 PM  

elvisaintdead: thealgorerhythm: Weisselberg didn't kill himself


YET.
Weisselberg didn't kill himself yet.


"kill himself"
 
2021-02-26 5:34:14 PM  

thealgorerhythm: Weisselberg didn't kill himself


Da. What happened was his Gold Bond had accidentally been contaminated with Novichok. Then he used creamer in his coffee that had accidentally been contaminated with Po-210. Then, elevator in his building broke down on floor above his, but he wasn't paying attention and fell down shaft, landing on about 30 7.62 bullets. Then another 30 7.62 bullets fell on him. Finally, elevator cable snapped and elevator fell on him. Sometimes people suffer tragic accidents, da? It is risk we all take. Car can accidentally hit you when you cross the street, or you can accidentally auto-defenestrate out of 40 storey window and snap neck.
 
2021-02-26 5:34:29 PM  

i state your name: Apropos of nothing, some jackoff state rep or senator in SC yesterday introduced a bill in the General Assembly to allow trump to be buried on SC State House grounds if he isn't buried at Arlington. I feel conflicted about it. On the one hand fark the ignorant jackwagons that think that orange farkwit deserves any kind of state honor (especially when he has no connection whatsoever to this state (But it's South Carolina so we all know it will actually pass - fark this state), on the other hand it will make trips to piss on his grave extremely convenient (less than a 2 hour drive), on the other other hand it may make it more difficult to piss on his grave without picking up an indecent exposure charge.


Not as glamourous, but gets the job done: piss in a bottle first, then pour it out. Most you could get us a littering charge.
 
2021-02-26 5:34:33 PM  

Drunk Southern Taser Bait: i state your name: Apropos of nothing, some jackoff state rep or senator in SC yesterday introduced a bill in the General Assembly to allow trump to be buried on SC State House grounds if he isn't buried at Arlington. I feel conflicted about it. On the one hand fark the ignorant jackwagons that think that orange farkwit deserves any kind of state honor (especially when he has no connection whatsoever to this state (But it's South Carolina so we all know it will actually pass - fark this state), on the other hand it will make trips to piss on his grave extremely convenient (less than a 2 hour drive), on the other other hand it may make it more difficult to piss on his grave without picking up an indecent exposure charge.

Trump would absolutely HATE to be buried there. Not enough gaudy, fake gold crap, and too many rubes.

So I support this completely.


I don't think you can say the home state of Myrtle Beach is not gaudy enough, definitely an overinfestation of rubes though.
 
2021-02-26 5:35:26 PM  
It's important to remember that tax returns are a voluntary document.  Trump's CPAs are going to put down the legal'ish minimum of what they put down.  That will be whatever they think they can get away with, knowing that Trump is hiring decent financial attorneys.  The IRS has 40 hour a week journeymen CPA/attorneys, being paid a government salary, with virtually no budget for prosecution and to fight back against the billionaires.  With large corporations, the IRS often has auditors in place in the corporation full time, trying to keep their heads above water.  It's a catch us if you can game, and when finally caught, they'll claim "we interpreted it differently"  ::shrugs::

The NY AG having the returns... might, maybe, could be interesting, but it all depends on what other kind of criminal financial forensic evidence they already have, outside of his returns.  It's no kind of a slam dunk, that the returns will contain damning information that alone will put him in jail for life.

It's fun to wish ill on this turd of a human, but I'm going to wait and see what develops.
 
2021-02-26 5:37:23 PM  

baronbloodbath: i state your name: Apropos of nothing, some jackoff state rep or senator in SC yesterday introduced a bill in the General Assembly to allow trump to be buried on SC State House grounds if he isn't buried at Arlington. I feel conflicted about it. On the one hand fark the ignorant jackwagons that think that orange farkwit deserves any kind of state honor (especially when he has no connection whatsoever to this state (But it's South Carolina so we all know it will actually pass - fark this state), on the other hand it will make trips to piss on his grave extremely convenient (less than a 2 hour drive), on the other other hand it may make it more difficult to piss on his grave without picking up an indecent exposure charge.

Not as glamourous, but gets the job done: piss in a bottle first, then pour it out. Most you could get us a littering charge.


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2021-02-26 5:42:28 PM  

Badmoodman: I'm sure there will be massive fraud all over his returns, but I want to see some income connected to Russia.


And I would give odds that they cosigned his Deutsche Bank loans or bought the bonds if DB resold the debt.
 
2021-02-26 5:44:11 PM  
The Brass Ring is to make sure he can't run again?

Bullshiat.

The Brass Ring is holding this mofo accountable for his crimes.

That's it.  That's all of it.
 
2021-02-26 5:45:39 PM  

bobobolinskii: west.la.lawyer: emersonbiggins: Allen's probably got his name on one of those sharpie pocket pardons that Trump left in the Resolute Desk before he left.

too bad it is a state prosecution

State prison, from my poor understanding of these things, is no where near as nice as a Federal lock up.


The way I heard it described was the guards run federal prison. The inmates run state prisons.
 
2021-02-26 5:53:24 PM  

Ker_Thwap: It's important to remember that tax returns are a voluntary document.  Trump's CPAs are going to put down the legal'ish minimum of what they put down.  That will be whatever they think they can get away with, knowing that Trump is hiring decent financial attorneys.  The IRS has 40 hour a week journeymen CPA/attorneys, being paid a government salary, with virtually no budget for prosecution and to fight back against the billionaires.  With large corporations, the IRS often has auditors in place in the corporation full time, trying to keep their heads above water.  It's a catch us if you can game, and when finally caught, they'll claim "we interpreted it differently"  ::shrugs::

The NY AG having the returns... might, maybe, could be interesting, but it all depends on what other kind of criminal financial forensic evidence they already have, outside of his returns.  It's no kind of a slam dunk, that the returns will contain damning information that alone will put him in jail for life.

It's fun to wish ill on this turd of a human, but I'm going to wait and see what develops.


They didn't just get the returns. They got everything. Internal correspondence at Mazars, insurance documents, appraisal documents, correspondence between Trump Org and Mazars, etc. Millions of documents. Trumps's returns are big, thousands of pages per year. But they got millions.
 
2021-02-26 5:57:14 PM  

Ker_Thwap: It's important to remember that tax returns are a voluntary document.  Trump's CPAs are going to put down the legal'ish minimum of what they put down.  That will be whatever they think they can get away with, knowing that Trump is hiring decent financial attorneys.  The IRS has 40 hour a week journeymen CPA/attorneys, being paid a government salary, with virtually no budget for prosecution and to fight back against the billionaires.  With large corporations, the IRS often has auditors in place in the corporation full time, trying to keep their heads above water.  It's a catch us if you can game, and when finally caught, they'll claim "we interpreted it differently"  ::shrugs::

The NY AG having the returns... might, maybe, could be interesting, but it all depends on what other kind of criminal financial forensic evidence they already have, outside of his returns.  It's no kind of a slam dunk, that the returns will contain damning information that alone will put him in jail for life.

It's fun to wish ill on this turd of a human, but I'm going to wait and see what develops.


Ha, you think decent attorneys are going to work for Trump.
 
2021-02-26 6:00:05 PM  

dsmith42: Ker_Thwap: It's important to remember that tax returns are a voluntary document.  Trump's CPAs are going to put down the legal'ish minimum of what they put down.  That will be whatever they think they can get away with, knowing that Trump is hiring decent financial attorneys.  The IRS has 40 hour a week journeymen CPA/attorneys, being paid a government salary, with virtually no budget for prosecution and to fight back against the billionaires.  With large corporations, the IRS often has auditors in place in the corporation full time, trying to keep their heads above water.  It's a catch us if you can game, and when finally caught, they'll claim "we interpreted it differently"  ::shrugs::

The NY AG having the returns... might, maybe, could be interesting, but it all depends on what other kind of criminal financial forensic evidence they already have, outside of his returns.  It's no kind of a slam dunk, that the returns will contain damning information that alone will put him in jail for life.

It's fun to wish ill on this turd of a human, but I'm going to wait and see what develops.

They didn't just get the returns. They got everything. Internal correspondence at Mazars, insurance documents, appraisal documents, correspondence between Trump Org and Mazars, etc. Millions of documents. Trumps's returns are big, thousands of pages per year. But they got millions.


Yeah someone brought up terabytes of data and I scoffed, but holy hell.
Someone probably needs to learn how to compress PDF files better.
 
2021-02-26 6:00:06 PM  
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2021-02-26 6:00:19 PM  

transporter_ii: It's pretty obvious they are going to find tax fraud. What I see happening is a big fine and that's it. I would be happy to be wrong, but I don't see him going to prison.


The tax fraud goes hand in hand with bank fraud.  The IRS may just hit him with fines, but the banks will want to make an example of him.  And let's not fool ourselves about who really runs this country.
 
2021-02-26 6:01:53 PM  

recombobulator: transporter_ii: It's pretty obvious they are going to find tax fraud. What I see happening is a big fine and that's it. I would be happy to be wrong, but I don't see him going to prison.

The tax fraud goes hand in hand with bank fraud.  The IRS may just hit him with fines, but the banks will want to make an example of him.  And let's not fool ourselves about who really runs this country.


Master Blaster?
 
2021-02-26 6:02:15 PM  

dsmith42: Ker_Thwap: It's important to remember that tax returns are a voluntary document.  Trump's CPAs are going to put down the legal'ish minimum of what they put down.  That will be whatever they think they can get away with, knowing that Trump is hiring decent financial attorneys.  The IRS has 40 hour a week journeymen CPA/attorneys, being paid a government salary, with virtually no budget for prosecution and to fight back against the billionaires.  With large corporations, the IRS often has auditors in place in the corporation full time, trying to keep their heads above water.  It's a catch us if you can game, and when finally caught, they'll claim "we interpreted it differently"  ::shrugs::

The NY AG having the returns... might, maybe, could be interesting, but it all depends on what other kind of criminal financial forensic evidence they already have, outside of his returns.  It's no kind of a slam dunk, that the returns will contain damning information that alone will put him in jail for life.

It's fun to wish ill on this turd of a human, but I'm going to wait and see what develops.

They didn't just get the returns. They got everything. Internal correspondence at Mazars, insurance documents, appraisal documents, correspondence between Trump Org and Mazars, etc. Millions of documents. Trumps's returns are big, thousands of pages per year. But they got millions.


That's a good bit better than just the returns then, and fits in well with my general statement.
 
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