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    More: Giggity, United States Navy, Human trafficking, Prostitution, Navy, Lt. Cmdr. Joseph Nelson, Appeal, Non-commissioned officer, military's top appeals court  
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2021-02-25 10:30:48 PM  
A close reading of the decision reveals he's ONLY exonerated on the charge of "conduct unbecoming an officer" so... fark it:
Earth, Wind & Fire - Let's Groove (Official HD Video)
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2021-02-25 10:31:59 PM  
I see subby is also an Electric Six fan
 
2021-02-25 10:33:48 PM  
Well, I guess I'm listening to Electric Six for the rest of the night.
 
2021-02-25 10:34:06 PM  
It would be awesome.
 
2021-02-26 2:41:30 AM  

ThomasPaineTrain: Well, I guess I'm listening to Electric Six for the rest of the night.


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2021-02-26 2:53:14 AM  
Video for that song = human zoomies
 
2021-02-26 3:00:54 AM  
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2021-02-26 3:16:08 AM  
Conduct unbecoming an officer?

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I'd say he's the very model of a modern Major General.
 
2021-02-26 3:16:10 AM  
Not sure why this has the "Giggity," tag. If true, then this guy was engaged in human trafficking.
 
2021-02-26 3:18:12 AM  
Every time I think I've done something dumb and royally screwed my life, something like this comes along and reminds me that, no, I have not yet achieved such a magnitude of absurdity.
 
2021-02-26 3:34:32 AM  
Electric Six - Dance Commander
Youtube BRrfnvGQG1I
 
2021-02-26 3:37:03 AM  
Just following the dance commander's orders.

06. Electric Six - Dance Epidemic (Señor Smoke)
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2021-02-26 3:40:05 AM  
What's his Fark handle ?
 
2021-02-26 4:03:40 AM  

Monty_Zoncolan: A close reading of the decision reveals he's ONLY exonerated on the charge of "conduct unbecoming an officer" so... fark it:
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Lrle0x_D​HBM]


That one's even fair, as the conduct unbecoming was based almost entirely on his making a false official statement, which he was later exonerated on.  Investigators screwed the pooch, if they'd based the conduct charge more on "Dude, you're a farking dick with the use and abuse of women trapped in that life." they might not have even had to revisit this.

Not that the UCMJ doesn't allow things like convictions based on stuff you get exonerated for - that's totally fine under the rules technically - but it's a little raw even for a Court.  They usually try not to as invariably shiat does get leaked and it makes the Court look stupidpetty/other unsavory motivations.  This is pretty much a procedural slap on the wrist for the investigators, not so much a "Gosh we feel bad for the guy."  Court's sending a "Try not to get so lost in your own bullshiat you screw yourself, geniuses.  This isn't rubber stamp central." message to NCIS.

/guy's still an asshole
//and I have my doubts on the validity of the exoneration
///but it sounds like NCIS was taking shortcuts figuring it was open and shut
////Courts do not appreciate that attitude so much - they are farking formalists - dot the i's or they'll cross your T
 
2021-02-26 4:04:42 AM  

Chocobo: What's his Fark handle ?


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2021-02-26 4:10:50 AM  
There is only one Dance commander.

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2021-02-26 4:33:46 AM  
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2021-02-26 4:46:40 AM  
Approves.
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2021-02-26 4:50:10 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Monty_Zoncolan: A close reading of the decision reveals he's ONLY exonerated on the charge of "conduct unbecoming an officer" so... fark it:
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Lrle0x_D​HBM]

That one's even fair, as the conduct unbecoming was based almost entirely on his making a false official statement, which he was later exonerated on.  Investigators screwed the pooch, if they'd based the conduct charge more on "Dude, you're a farking dick with the use and abuse of women trapped in that life." they might not have even had to revisit this.

Not that the UCMJ doesn't allow things like convictions based on stuff you get exonerated for - that's totally fine under the rules technically - but it's a little raw even for a Court.  They usually try not to as invariably shiat does get leaked and it makes the Court look stupidpetty/other unsavory motivations.  This is pretty much a procedural slap on the wrist for the investigators, not so much a "Gosh we feel bad for the guy."  Court's sending a "Try not to get so lost in your own bullshiat you screw yourself, geniuses.  This isn't rubber stamp central." message to NCIS.

/guy's still an asshole
//and I have my doubts on the validity of the exoneration
///but it sounds like NCIS was taking shortcuts figuring it was open and shut
////Courts do not appreciate that attitude so much - they are farking formalists - dot the i's or they'll cross your T


Here's my problem:  the prosecution couldn't prove he made a false statement, AFTER lengthy interviews about his living situation.

In contrast to the petty officer they also mention facing the rape accusation, perhaps he really was trying to help the victims?  Seems like they could have gotten one of them to testify against him, otherwise.

Trafficking is horrible, but so is prosecutorial over reach, as we saw in the Kraft case, where the cops lied on their warrant application.

/sex slaves are typically locked in, not driving around in second-hand Porsches
 
2021-02-26 5:27:03 AM  
The Fast Show - Shoreleave
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2021-02-26 5:56:43 AM  

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Everyone in that photo has a penis...EVERY ONE....
 
2021-02-26 6:15:12 AM  
Bahrain?

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2021-02-26 6:41:00 AM  
Oh man... such a good song, and I'm so late to the party.

/I do a real good falsetto for that one part
//don't know why I'm sharing that here
///Who gives the orders herreeee alright, who gives the orders heeerrrreee alllllllrrriiiggghhhttt
 
2021-02-26 6:51:31 AM  

zbtop: Every time I think I've done something dumb and royally screwed my life, something like this comes along and reminds me that, no, I have not yet achieved such a magnitude of absurdity.


Yeah.

Often I have to wonder about people like this.  How in the ever living fark are you so stupid as to find yourself in such a situation?  Especially the desertion charge.  They told you to show up. You didn't, and you hadn't outprocessed from the military, so you really can't claim that your obligation is over.  Especially not an officer:  they don't serve for a fixed term of enlistment, they are commissioned and that obligates them until they retire, resign their commission, or are separated against their will.
 
2021-02-26 7:09:36 AM  

dittybopper: zbtop: Every time I think I've done something dumb and royally screwed my life, something like this comes along and reminds me that, no, I have not yet achieved such a magnitude of absurdity.

Yeah.

Often I have to wonder about people like this.  How in the ever living fark are you so stupid as to find yourself in such a situation?  Especially the desertion charge.  They told you to show up. You didn't, and you hadn't outprocessed from the military, so you really can't claim that your obligation is over.  Especially not an officer:  they don't serve for a fixed term of enlistment, they are commissioned and that obligates them until they retire, resign their commission, or are separated against their will.


Well you're right about his being a dumbass, but at least in the Navy yes officers do have defined lengths of service.  It varies, the "standard" is 3-5 with a reserve commitment that brings the total term to 8 years.  It's not a life sentence or something.  That being said, just like when you're enlisted you're indeed not off active duty or separated until they say you are - if they see the need they can extend that time unilaterally.

/some specialties like pilot for instance require much longer commitments
//basically anything that involves insane amounts of training etc. that they're going to have to spend the money and time on to get you there
///but a bog standard Joe Officer is usually 5-3 active/reserve term - ymmv
 
2021-02-26 7:17:01 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: dittybopper: zbtop: Every time I think I've done something dumb and royally screwed my life, something like this comes along and reminds me that, no, I have not yet achieved such a magnitude of absurdity.

Yeah.

Often I have to wonder about people like this.  How in the ever living fark are you so stupid as to find yourself in such a situation?  Especially the desertion charge.  They told you to show up. You didn't, and you hadn't outprocessed from the military, so you really can't claim that your obligation is over.  Especially not an officer:  they don't serve for a fixed term of enlistment, they are commissioned and that obligates them until they retire, resign their commission, or are separated against their will.

Well you're right about his being a dumbass, but at least in the Navy yes officers do have defined lengths of service.  It varies, the "standard" is 3-5 with a reserve commitment that brings the total term to 8 years.  It's not a life sentence or something.  That being said, just like when you're enlisted you're indeed not off active duty or separated until they say you are - if they see the need they can extend that time unilaterally.

/some specialties like pilot for instance require much longer commitments
//basically anything that involves insane amounts of training etc. that they're going to have to spend the money and time on to get you there
///but a bog standard Joe Officer is usually 5-3 active/reserve term - ymmv


I suppose I should feel compelled to add, "Or so it was."  I haven't had my nose in that business is a lot of years - but my understanding is that hasn't changed much barring assorted Iraq war years.
 
2021-02-26 7:30:58 AM  

PunGent: Here's my problem: the prosecution couldn't prove he made a false statement, AFTER lengthy interviews about his living situation.


There's a whole lot of wiggle room in proving that an officer knowingly made a false statement.  A simple, "Oh?  Shiat I didn't know it was like that.  I thought it was like this." while stinking to high heaven, is really damn hard to disprove.  Which is why you try to charge based on actual farked up and provable behavior rather than false statements, unless you can absolutely prove they knew it was bullshiat.  Which practically takes video or 22 witnesses to them declaring their intent to lie like a rug.
 
2021-02-26 8:05:17 AM  
Everything would be cool if slavery of women was not basically legal in Bahrain and age of consent isn't even a thing.  I'm sure the officers checked IDs religiously to make sure none of the prostitutes they were trafficking were underage.

I am still not sure how he can be guilty of Human Trafficking and yet considered an honorable officer. Is it because Human Trafficking is not considered an act unbecoming of an officer by their code of conduct?
 
2021-02-26 8:16:16 AM  
STOP
 
2021-02-26 8:16:43 AM  
CONTINUE
 
2021-02-26 8:52:47 AM  
Well, there goes Dance, Dance, Military Coup. Of course, right wing nuts will still have the home version of the game, just like Putin's Palace.
 
2021-02-26 8:53:40 AM  
Lived with prostitutes? He was their pimp.
 
2021-02-26 8:54:43 AM  
Hooker was the original provider of "comfort women".
 
2021-02-26 8:57:03 AM  

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Shoreleave?

Did they steal that from Venture Brothers?
 
2021-02-26 9:00:10 AM  
Rumour has it that Military.com is changing its name to Military.coup.

I should know. I am starting that rumour right now.
 
2021-02-26 9:28:20 AM  
I wonder how many of those women were children under the age of 16.
 
2021-02-26 11:21:23 AM  
According to an in-depth series on the topic published by Navy Times in June 2020, some sailors alleged that they became involved with women in Bahrain in order to help them find a way out of bad conditions.

Regular counter intelligence training is given to military and intelligence people which raises that very issue revealing it to be just another way to reel you in or take your money. They knew better.
 
2021-02-26 12:09:06 PM  
The only officer to be charged

Pulled the short straw.
 
2021-02-26 2:44:24 PM  

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Shoreleave?

Did they steal that from Venture Brothers?

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2021-02-26 5:51:57 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: dittybopper: zbtop: Every time I think I've done something dumb and royally screwed my life, something like this comes along and reminds me that, no, I have not yet achieved such a magnitude of absurdity.

Yeah.

Often I have to wonder about people like this.  How in the ever living fark are you so stupid as to find yourself in such a situation?  Especially the desertion charge.  They told you to show up. You didn't, and you hadn't outprocessed from the military, so you really can't claim that your obligation is over.  Especially not an officer:  they don't serve for a fixed term of enlistment, they are commissioned and that obligates them until they retire, resign their commission, or are separated against their will.

Well you're right about his being a dumbass, but at least in the Navy yes officers do have defined lengths of service.  It varies, the "standard" is 3-5 with a reserve commitment that brings the total term to 8 years.  It's not a life sentence or something.  That being said, just like when you're enlisted you're indeed not off active duty or separated until they say you are - if they see the need they can extend that time unilaterally.

/some specialties like pilot for instance require much longer commitments
//basically anything that involves insane amounts of training etc. that they're going to have to spend the money and time on to get you there
///but a bog standard Joe Officer is usually 5-3 active/reserve term - ymmv


No, you have a minimum commitment when you receive your commission, so you have to serve  a certain number of years, but until you resign your commission, go reserve, or they kick you out, you're on active duty.

It's not like enlisted, where you contract for a limited term and have to re-enlist or you're automatically separated.
 
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