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(Lost Coast Outpost)   Struggling flower business finally gives in and lets the weeds take over   (lostcoastoutpost.com) divider line
    More: Spiffy, Cannabis, Hemp, Humboldt County, California, Cannabis cultivation, Humboldt State University, owners of Sun Valley Floral Farms, approval of this project, construction of a 23-acre hoop house operation  
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2021-02-24 11:24:55 PM  
Damn. Twenty three acres of cannabis. Makes your eyes red just thinking about it.
 
2021-02-24 11:35:30 PM  
This bud's for you
 
2021-02-24 11:55:54 PM  
From one flower to the next
 
2021-02-25 1:03:48 AM  
These folks are one of the largest employers in Humboldt County and this will bring more jobs to the area.

When a big company like this updates their playbook this drastically, it speaks to the shifting tides. When I was a teenager I joked about how one day we could buy a 20 pack of class A joints. It was a joke. I never thought I would see it happen, so to speak. I may well see this prohibition repealed before I die.
 
2021-02-25 2:21:51 AM  
Can't we just keep weed simple and fair trade like coffee?
 
2021-02-25 2:23:19 AM  
I think you misspelled the "spliffy" tag, there, subby.
 
2021-02-25 2:24:51 AM  
I'd like to buy a bouquet.
 
2021-02-25 2:27:22 AM  
The natural progression of things, maaaaan.
 
2021-02-25 2:34:00 AM  
Happiness is a dank bouquet.
 
2021-02-25 2:54:31 AM  
Never a better time for Biden to sign an executive order making weed legal in all 50 states.

Legalize it, cultivate it, and sell it. Get people back to work, brah.
 
2021-02-25 2:54:34 AM  
They hiring?
 
2021-02-25 3:01:52 AM  
Backup plan if it fails, build the greenhouses for more flowers then grow opium poppies.
 
2021-02-25 3:05:04 AM  
Or do a massive oleander grow and burn the whole place down accidentally.

Then redo the weed proposal, you won't get any objections from the mountain of corpses that were living near by.

"Flowers, huh? You wanted farking flowers. Here's your flowers. If we had burnt down a warehouse full of weed you would have been the happiest farking campers for weeks."
 
2021-02-25 3:16:37 AM  

foo monkey: They hiring?


Always. They have a large workforce and have a notable turnover.
 
2021-02-25 3:19:20 AM  

dyhchong: Or do a massive oleander grow and burn the whole place down accidentally.

Then redo the weed proposal, you won't get any objections from the mountain of corpses that were living near by.

"Flowers, huh? You wanted farking flowers. Here's your flowers. If we had burnt down a warehouse full of weed you would have been the happiest farking campers for weeks."


Actually this isn't in a neighborhood, but out in river bottom pasture land. So your corpse fantasy is less likely than you think.
 
2021-02-25 3:22:09 AM  
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2021-02-25 3:23:27 AM  

TwowheelinTim: dyhchong: Or do a massive oleander grow and burn the whole place down accidentally.

Then redo the weed proposal, you won't get any objections from the mountain of corpses that were living near by.

"Flowers, huh? You wanted farking flowers. Here's your flowers. If we had burnt down a warehouse full of weed you would have been the happiest farking campers for weeks."

Actually this isn't in a neighborhood, but out in river bottom pasture land. So your corpse fantasy is less likely than you think.


So, who are these people?

James Cotton and his wife Kim Puckett, who put up the Facebook post, live about 800 feet from the project, and he's angry that the county didn't do more outreach to neighbors. He's spoken to a couple who were notified that the county had prepared a draft mitigated negative declaration (MND), a document that states all environmental impacts of the project can be reduced to insignificant levels. (This is a less-extensive level of review than what's required with a full Environmental Impact Report, or EIR.)

But other neighbors, like himself and his wife, were not notified - even though some live closer to the project than those who were, he said.

"There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. ... Three other people on this cul-de-sac did not receive a notice." Cotton said he believes the county conducted inadequate consultation of stakeholders, which could be grounds for a lawsuit.

He spent several days reading through the 95-page initial study, plus the 1,300-plus pages of supporting documents in the draft MND, making notes about where he believes the report falls short. Among his concerns are potential reductions to agricultural land, impacts to surrounding groundwater wells, the adequacy of bird surveys, visual blight and - not least of all - the odor.

"My wife, daughter and neighbor are asthmatic and triggered by the smell of cannabis," he wrote in one of his notes on the draft MND.

Other neighbors are similarly concerned. An email chain forwarded to the Outpost includes messages from several Arcata residents to Third District Supervisor Mike Wilson.
 
2021-02-25 3:24:50 AM  

TwowheelinTim: These folks are one of the largest employers in Humboldt County and this will bring more jobs to the area.

When a big company like this updates their playbook this drastically, it speaks to the shifting tides. When I was a teenager I joked about how one day we could buy a 20 pack of class A joints. It was a joke. I never thought I would see it happen, so to speak. I may well see this prohibition repealed before I die.


It's still going round in the old circles of "It's illegal because it is dangerous, and dangerous because it is illegal, so illegal it stays. Because it is dangerous."

There's no reasoning.
 
2021-02-25 3:25:09 AM  

uttertosh: TwowheelinTim: These folks are one of the largest employers in Humboldt County and this will bring more jobs to the area.

When a big company like this updates their playbook this drastically, it speaks to the shifting tides. When I was a teenager I joked about how one day we could buy a 20 pack of class A joints. It was a joke. I never thought I would see it happen, so to speak. I may well see this prohibition repealed before I die.

It's still going round in the old circles of "It's illegal because it is dangerous, and dangerous because it is illegal, so illegal it stays. Because it is dangerous."

There's no reasoning.


*here in Sweden
 
2021-02-25 3:48:32 AM  
This will be an interesting trend.
Yemen is suffering because of a lot of agricultural land had turned to growing Qat.
I wonder if something similar will happen in this situation if it does go legal at a national level.
 
2021-02-25 3:55:51 AM  

dyhchong: TwowheelinTim: dyhchong: Or do a massive oleander grow and burn the whole place down accidentally.

Then redo the weed proposal, you won't get any objections from the mountain of corpses that were living near by.

"Flowers, huh? You wanted farking flowers. Here's your flowers. If we had burnt down a warehouse full of weed you would have been the happiest farking campers for weeks."

Actually this isn't in a neighborhood, but out in river bottom pasture land. So your corpse fantasy is less likely than you think.

So, who are these people?

James Cotton and his wife Kim Puckett, who put up the Facebook post, live about 800 feet from the project, and he's angry that the county didn't do more outreach to neighbors. He's spoken to a couple who were notified that the county had prepared a draft mitigated negative declaration (MND), a document that states all environmental impacts of the project can be reduced to insignificant levels. (This is a less-extensive level of review than what's required with a full Environmental Impact Report, or EIR.)

But other neighbors, like himself and his wife, were not notified - even though some live closer to the project than those who were, he said.

"There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. ... Three other people on this cul-de-sac did not receive a notice." Cotton said he believes the county conducted inadequate consultation of stakeholders, which could be grounds for a lawsuit.

He spent several days reading through the 95-page initial study, plus the 1,300-plus pages of supporting documents in the draft MND, making notes about where he believes the report falls short. Among his concerns are potential reductions to agricultural land, impacts to surrounding groundwater wells, the adequacy of bird surveys, visual blight and - not least of all - the odor.

"My wife, daughter and neighbor are asthmatic and triggered by the smell of cannabis," he wrote in one of his notes on the draft MND.

Other neighbors are similarly concerned. An email chain forwarded to the Outpost includes messages from several Arcata residents to Third District Supervisor Mike Wilson.


I have a suggestion. Go look at the site so you can see for yourself. The NIMBY crowd is not as close as they want you to think. The property is huge. Even if somebody's home is 800 feet from Sun Valley property, they could still be half a mile away from where the cannabis is grown.
 
2021-02-25 4:52:27 AM  
These NIMBY folks who are allergic to weed never had a problem with the other flowers. The growers are proposing using what seem to be a odor elimination process too. It kind of tacky, especially for BBC a place that promises to increase their labor.
 
2021-02-25 6:07:24 AM  

cakeman: These NIMBY folks who are allergic to weed never had a problem with the other flowers. The growers are proposing using what seem to be a odor elimination process too. It kind of tacky, especially for BBC a place that promises to increase their labor.


Because they didn't think they could get a payday from the company growing the other flowers.
 
2021-02-25 6:14:19 AM  
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2021-02-25 7:17:46 AM  
Ever go in a flower growing operation while high?
 
2021-02-25 10:07:56 AM  

uttertosh: It's still going round in the old circles of "It's illegal because it is dangerous, and dangerous because it is illegal, so illegal it stays. Because it is dangerous."

There's no reasoning.


"But we CAN'T legalize it - it's illegal!" is how they said that in Utah.
 
2021-02-25 1:42:06 PM  

TwowheelinTim: These folks are one of the largest employers in Humboldt County and this will bring more jobs to the area.

When a big company like this updates their playbook this drastically, it speaks to the shifting tides. When I was a teenager I joked about how one day we could buy a 20 pack of class A joints. It was a joke. I never thought I would see it happen, so to speak. I may well see this prohibition repealed before I die.


Problem is that Sun Valley pays shiat wages and brings in a lot of green-card seasonal workers. The largest year-round employer is the county and Providence/st Joes actually.

I would rather have a typical trim job, even at rates much lower than they used to be than work for SV. They've always paid crap wages for back breaking work. But they're also tied in with Devries, which is Danco. Danco, the ones that own all of samoa, building all the "affordable" apartments there. And if anyone knows about DJs methods, everything is done on the cheap, and not the best quality. It'll be interesting to see how well they're doing after a couple years of winter storm sand blasting.

To others reading this, 23 acres is nothing. Most ag/rural parcels are at least 40, if not 400. Or 2000 like a certain cattle guy nearby that also likes to make local news. SV already has the infrastructure. Has for decades. BUT...it's a really lousy location for a large grow. It's on a flood plain, in an area that if it's not raining, it's pea soup thick fog. And cool year round. Nothing will grow well without greenhouses.

It's a legal operation even if its owners are a bit shady. But I wouldn't work for them.
 
2021-02-25 2:02:51 PM  

cakeman: These NIMBY folks who are allergic to weed never had a problem with the other flowers. The growers are proposing using what seem to be a odor elimination process too. It kind of tacky, especially for BBC a place that promises to increase their labor.


Given it's proximity to muddy tide flats, the smell of fish, and numerous cattle operations adjacent to this project, weed odor is an improvement.
 
2021-02-25 4:17:53 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: TwowheelinTim: These folks are one of the largest employers in Humboldt County and this will bring more jobs to the area.

When a big company like this updates their playbook this drastically, it speaks to the shifting tides. When I was a teenager I joked about how one day we could buy a 20 pack of class A joints. It was a joke. I never thought I would see it happen, so to speak. I may well see this prohibition repealed before I die.

Problem is that Sun Valley pays shiat wages and brings in a lot of green-card seasonal workers. The largest year-round employer is the county and Providence/st Joes actually.

I would rather have a typical trim job, even at rates much lower than they used to be than work for SV. They've always paid crap wages for back breaking work. But they're also tied in with Devries, which is Danco. Danco, the ones that own all of samoa, building all the "affordable" apartments there. And if anyone knows about DJs methods, everything is done on the cheap, and not the best quality. It'll be interesting to see how well they're doing after a couple years of winter storm sand blasting.

To others reading this, 23 acres is nothing. Most ag/rural parcels are at least 40, if not 400. Or 2000 like a certain cattle guy nearby that also likes to make local news. SV already has the infrastructure. Has for decades. BUT...it's a really lousy location for a large grow. It's on a flood plain, in an area that if it's not raining, it's pea soup thick fog. And cool year round. Nothing will grow well without greenhouses.

It's a legal operation even if its owners are a bit shady. But I wouldn't work for them.


I agree. I've been on the property to repair machines. They have a terrible reputation on how they treat their employees (see my comment about high turnover rate). They're notorious for workplace injuries too. My daughter is an interpreter for worker's comp claims and sees a lot of cases from there.
 
2021-02-25 4:21:35 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: cakeman: These NIMBY folks who are allergic to weed never had a problem with the other flowers. The growers are proposing using what seem to be a odor elimination process too. It kind of tacky, especially for BBC a place that promises to increase their labor.

Given it's proximity to muddy tide flats, the smell of fish, and numerous cattle operations adjacent to this project, weed odor is an improvement.


Yeah, I thought about bringing that up too. Aren't these the same neighbors who b*tched so loud about Cypress Grove that they decided to take the jobs and revenue somewhere else? I used to live on Janes Road nearby. You get used to the constant reek of cow sh*t.
 
2021-02-25 4:24:18 PM  

Spice Must Flow: uttertosh: It's still going round in the old circles of "It's illegal because it is dangerous, and dangerous because it is illegal, so illegal it stays. Because it is dangerous."

There's no reasoning.

"But we CAN'T legalize it - it's illegal!" is how they said that in Utah.


It's just a plant the eternal spiral of doom! DOOOOM!!!
 
2021-02-25 4:25:02 PM  

uttertosh: Spice Must Flow: uttertosh: It's still going round in the old circles of "It's illegal because it is dangerous, and dangerous because it is illegal, so illegal it stays. Because it is dangerous."

There's no reasoning.

"But we CAN'T legalize it - it's illegal!" is how they said that in Utah.

It's just a plant the eternal spiral of doom! DOOOOM!!!


username...
 
2021-02-25 7:13:37 PM  

TwowheelinTim: fanbladesaresharp: cakeman: These NIMBY folks who are allergic to weed never had a problem with the other flowers. The growers are proposing using what seem to be a odor elimination process too. It kind of tacky, especially for BBC a place that promises to increase their labor.

Given it's proximity to muddy tide flats, the smell of fish, and numerous cattle operations adjacent to this project, weed odor is an improvement.

Yeah, I thought about bringing that up too. Aren't these the same neighbors who b*tched so loud about Cypress Grove that they decided to take the jobs and revenue somewhere else? I used to live on Janes Road nearby. You get used to the constant reek of cow sh*t.


Yup. And CG is doing better than ever. Arcata city council had some disparaging words about it too. I guess they don't mind losing that tax revenue.
 
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