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(The New York Times)   Israel has made a secret deal with Syria to supply Russian-made COVID vaccine in exchange for prisoners. But don't tell anyone, because it's a secret   (nytimes.com) divider line
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2021-02-24 12:20:59 PM  
Meanwhile, Israel is using the Moderna vaccine

/it's a trap.jpg
 
2021-02-24 12:53:05 PM  
Did they include a free copy of Kaspersky AV too?
 
2021-02-24 1:12:32 PM  
I'm OK with this. Vaccinating more people is a good thing, and everything I've seen so far (not limited to state media) indicates that the Russian vaccine works as well as the other viral-vector ones.
 
2021-02-24 1:22:53 PM  
And they're still going to prevent Palestinians from getting vaccinated...
 
2021-02-24 1:23:24 PM  
*winks conspicuously*
 
2021-02-24 1:23:58 PM  

Ivo Shandor: I'm OK with this. Vaccinating more people is a good thing, and everything I've seen so far (not limited to state media) indicates that the Russian vaccine works as well as the other viral-vector ones.


I hope so. I'm still deeply suspicious of it but I hope it doesn't have any ill effects.
 
2021-02-24 1:26:13 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Ivo Shandor: I'm OK with this. Vaccinating more people is a good thing, and everything I've seen so far (not limited to state media) indicates that the Russian vaccine works as well as the other viral-vector ones.

I hope so. I'm still deeply suspicious of it but I hope it doesn't have any ill effects.


There's a good study in the lancet. Seems pretty good so far. Also, each of the two shots works against a different area of the virus. (Built in broader coverage)
 
2021-02-24 1:26:42 PM  

Ivo Shandor: I'm OK with this. Vaccinating more people is a good thing, and everything I've seen so far (not limited to state media) indicates that the Russian vaccine works as well as the other viral-vector ones.


I'd be interested in seeing a bit more data on the Russian vaccine.  I ran across this article earlier today that talked about vaccines in general, with your comment you might be interested in it. I share it here for fark consumption.. nom.. nom..

https://www.vox.com/22285256/covid-19​-​vaccine-predictions
 
2021-02-24 1:31:16 PM  
They're not supplying the vaccine they're "financing" it. In other words they are paying a ransom to Russia.

/Airstrikes to follow.
 
2021-02-24 1:31:46 PM  

Ivo Shandor: I'm OK with this. Vaccinating more people is a good thing, and everything I've seen so far (not limited to state media) indicates that the Russian vaccine works as well as the other viral-vector ones.


came for this.
My only caveat is that the aid agencies in Syria should be the recipients and distributors, not the government. The vaccine should not be allowed to become a political tool.
 
2021-02-24 1:32:58 PM  
Peace in our time?
 
2021-02-24 1:36:04 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Peace in our time?


Peace is real.
 
2021-02-24 1:37:41 PM  

Uranus: Ivo Shandor:  The vaccine should not be allowed to become a political tool.


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2021-02-24 1:38:14 PM  
Israel is paying Syria's allies to provide them with their vaccine. Oof.
 
2021-02-24 1:38:35 PM  
The vodka ones loaded with lead and polonium?
 
2021-02-24 1:39:34 PM  

big pig peaches: /Airstrikes to follow.


So... a day ending in "y".
 
2021-02-24 1:41:35 PM  

Ivo Shandor: I'm OK with this. Vaccinating more people is a good thing, and everything I've seen so far (not limited to state media) indicates that the Russian vaccine works as well as the other viral-vector ones.


Youre ok with vaccines being used as political leverage?
 
2021-02-24 1:43:31 PM  
This raises lots of questions about whose vaccine, number of prisoners,

I'm sure the ratio is not like "Red Rover, Red Rover, Send One Person Over" more the ratio is 1:100.  That would free up 100 from Israeli prisons, leaving a fewer in an institution which always strains in a pandemic.

Russia is pushing its own Sputnik vaccine in Israel.  It's unclear what vaccine brand the Syrians (with Russia's help) wants -- maybe not Sputnik.  Who is paying for this.   Does Russia include 5G chips in their vaccines.

How does this prevent more Israelis being kidnapped for vaccine?

Would Israel become the Middle East vaccine producer if the Israeli products were in demand?  Is there a tech-medical path to diplomacy?
 
2021-02-24 1:50:53 PM  
lifeslammer:Youre ok with vaccines being used as political leverage?

you're ok with Syrians not being vaccinated?

Prisoner exchange, and similar diplomatic extortion, have been going on for a long time. Leverage is fine, between countries - all of them do it, yours included.


genner:

Obviously I should have been more specific, but the term that comes to mind - weaponised - I dislike because of its consistent over and misuse. So more to the point, look at the control of food aid in Africa in the periods this was funneled via the governments. People still starved, only the government chose, quite deliberately, who starved.

Same point on vaccines in Syria.
 
2021-02-24 1:53:04 PM  

IlGreven: And they're still going to prevent Palestinians from getting vaccinated...


They haven't been preventing Palestinians from getting vaccinated, when the Palestinian leadership officially requested vaccines for medical personnel they were delivered. The Palestinians didn't acknowledge the source of the vaccines of course. Also for thousands Palestinian workers who enter Israel as per an agreement with the Palestinians.
The Palestinians rejected aid from Israel, officially anyway, and claimed they secured the vaccine themselves. People are clueless about the politics and mentality involved. How Israel is supposed to provide the vaccines to the Palestinians?  If Israel enters the West Bank or Gaza to do so since I doubt they have the means to mass vaccinate it would be a shiatshow, the Arab media would have a field day about "the Jews sweeping in to save the Arabs". Palestinian "honor" will be  ruined, etc.

In this case Israel isn't supplying vaccines to Syria directly, that would damage Syrian honor, you see. Instead there's something else going on, probably Russian/Syrian bribe related and probably Israeli elections related.
 
2021-02-24 1:56:19 PM  
syria had guy israel wanted back
paying money to a "unfriendly" regime so they can use that money to maybe buy weapons etc not going to happen

getting your guy back by financing vaccination in "unfriendly" regime is a good move, especially since it's israel national security interest that syria gets covid under control, as we saw recently the thing mutates it be a shame to have a bordering country not be vaccinated have a mutation and spread it back to Israel.
 
2021-02-24 1:56:31 PM  

TappingTheVein: ...  If Israel enters the West Bank or Gaza to do so since I doubt they have the means to mass vaccinate it would be a shiatshow, the Arab media would have a field day about "the Jews sweeping in to save the Arabs"...


Wow, ethnic superiority much dude?
 
2021-02-24 1:57:22 PM  

IlGreven: And they're still going to prevent Palestinians from getting vaccinated...


Iran will supply them in exchange for photoshopped missles.
 
2021-02-24 1:57:27 PM  

Sexy Jesus: ow, ethnic superiority much dude?


As I was saying, people are clueless about Middle-Eastern politics and mentality.
 
2021-02-24 2:12:22 PM  
OK. Mum's the word. This will go no further than Fark.com, maybe Twitch.
 
2021-02-24 2:12:33 PM  

TappingTheVein: Sexy Jesus: ow, ethnic superiority much dude?

As I was saying, people are clueless about Middle-Eastern politics and mentality.


You might want to zip up. Your bias is showing.
 
2021-02-24 2:12:50 PM  

TappingTheVein: Sexy Jesus: ow, ethnic superiority much dude?

As I was saying, people are clueless about Middle-Eastern politics and mentality.


Fixed that for you.
 
2021-02-24 2:26:19 PM  
Palestinians will probably be vaccinated before Arabs in Arab countries. Lucky them.
 
2021-02-24 2:29:54 PM  

REDARMYVODKA: You might want to zip up. Your bias is showing.


As I was saying, people are clueless about Middle-Eastern politics and mentality.
The same reason Arab/Islamic countries always reject aid offers from Israel during an earthquake/flood/natural disaster despite Israel having arguably one of the best medical/rescue teams in the region. You might want to check out why that is.
 
2021-02-24 2:31:03 PM  

HighlanderRPI: Did they include a free copy of Kaspersky AV too?


I tried a few demo copy of Kaspersky once.  Took at least five years after I got rid of it before I stopped getting random error messages from Windows about the links it had stuck into NTFS resource branches. $KAVICH$ or something like that.
 
2021-02-24 2:31:46 PM  
 
2021-02-24 2:38:39 PM  
It's a Russian vaccine and Russia is allied with Assad.  So, why aren't the Russians simply providing the vaccine to Syria?
 
2021-02-24 2:38:55 PM  

Porous Horace: Palestinians will probably be vaccinated before Arabs in Arab countries. Lucky them.


They began about 3 weeks ago with a shipment from Israel. And apparently there's a Hugo Chavez named hospital in the West Bank.
 
2021-02-24 2:58:01 PM  

TappingTheVein: In this case Israel isn't supplying vaccines to Syria directly, that would damage Syrian honor, you see. Instead there's something else going on, probably Russian/Syrian bribe related and probably Israeli elections related.


Perhaps Russia is re-selling its own vaccines to the Syrians after Israel pays for them.  Sputnik only needs to be just above freezing, not some temperature near 0 Kelvin.   How Syria would actually administer vaccines during a civil war is interesting.  Maybe Spetsnaz would need to help the other side get immunized, but since the Syrian regime has not "officially" vaccinated anyone yet who knows.

"I'm here to  A) read the meter B) deliver pizza or C) vaccinate you" is always an easier way to gain non destructive  entrance than just by banging the door down.
 
2021-02-24 3:02:38 PM  

TappingTheVein: REDARMYVODKA: You might want to zip up. Your bias is showing.

As I was saying, people are clueless about Middle-Eastern politics and mentality.
The same reason Arab/Islamic countries always reject aid offers from Israel during an earthquake/flood/natural disaster despite Israel having arguably one of the best medical/rescue teams in the region. You might want to check out why that is.


Billions and billions in US aid?
 
2021-02-24 3:02:45 PM  

BitwiseShift: Perhaps Russia is re-selling its own vaccines to the Syrians after Israel pays for them


Since Netanyahu/Putin is involved I'm assuming is there's a lot of corruption involved. We'll know the extent of it probably in a month after Israel's elections.
 
2021-02-24 3:06:19 PM  

Sexy Jesus: Billions and billions in US aid?


You mean the aid which is a fraction of Israel's own GDP which is almost entirely invested in the US ? it has nothing to do with it of course.  Since you are obviously clueless I'll give you I hand: it has something to do with humiliation and showing signs of weakness.
 
2021-02-24 4:11:57 PM  
Uranus:
My only caveat is that the aid agencies in Syria should be the recipients and distributors, not the government. The vaccine should not be allowed to become a political tool.

Aid is always used as a tool of control in third world countries.  That's why efforts to feed people suffering a famine are too often useless.
 
2021-02-24 4:17:16 PM  
OgreMagi:

I apologise, allow me to clarify

Uranus:
Prisoner exchange, and similar diplomatic extortion, have been going on for a long time. Leverage is fine, between countries - all of them do it, yours included.


Obviously I should have been more specific, but the term that comes to mind - weaponised - I dislike because of its consistent over and misuse. So more to the point, look at the control of food aid in Africa in the periods this was funneled via the governments. People still starved, only the government chose, quite deliberately, who starved.

Same point on vaccines in Syria.
 
2021-02-24 4:25:26 PM  

TappingTheVein: They haven't been preventing Palestinians from getting vaccinated, when the Palestinian leadership officially requested vaccines for medical personnel they were delivered. The Palestinians didn't acknowledge the source of the vaccines of course.


This is a funny way of saying "When Palestinians bought vaccines from Russia, Israel held them for weeks before letting them through."

The source of the vaccines was Russia, IDK why you people demand that you get worshiped like Kim Jong Un for allowing Palestinians to receive their mail.
 
2021-02-24 4:46:56 PM  

MidwestPartisan: TappingTheVein: They haven't been preventing Palestinians from getting vaccinated, when the Palestinian leadership officially requested vaccines for medical personnel they were delivered. The Palestinians didn't acknowledge the source of the vaccines of course.

This is a funny way of saying "When Palestinians bought vaccines from Russia, Israel held them for weeks before letting them through."

The source of the vaccines was Russia, IDK why you people demand that you get worshiped like Kim Jong Un for allowing Palestinians to receive their mail.


Hamas, the elected government of the Palestinian Territory, has a history of smuggling weapons in shipments they claim are humanitarian.  It's no surprise that Israel is a bit suspicious.

Also, stop lying.  From your own link, "held up the shipment for two days".
 
2021-02-24 5:45:10 PM  

MidwestPartisan: This is a funny way of saying "When Palestinians bought vaccines from Russia, Israel held them for weeks before letting them through."


I'm assuming you didn't know the delay in question for about 2,000 doses only, which was delivered after 2 days, was due to unauthorized shipment passing through Israel into Gaza, most likely for Hamas' top leadership and not for medical personnel.
The shipment about 20,000 doses from UAE which came later had no problems when Israel was actually informed about it.

I like how the 2 days became "held for weeks". Did you come up with that lie yourself or you had help? like voices in your head?

MidwestPartisan: The source of the vaccines was Russia, IDK why you people demand that you get worshiped like Kim Jong Un for allowing Palestinians to receive their mail.


I'm assuming you don't live next to a Jihadist terrorist enclave who attacks you on a regular basis with weapons they receive in their mail.
 
2021-02-25 7:37:56 AM  

TappingTheVein: MidwestPartisan: This is a funny way of saying "When Palestinians bought vaccines from Russia, Israel held them for weeks before letting them through."

I'm assuming you didn't know the delay in question for about 2,000 doses only, which was delivered after 2 days, was due to unauthorized shipment passing through Israel into Gaza, most likely for Hamas' top leadership and not for medical personnel.
The shipment about 20,000 doses from UAE which came later had no problems when Israel was actually informed about it.

I like how the 2 days became "held for weeks". Did you come up with that lie yourself or you had help? like voices in your head?

MidwestPartisan: The source of the vaccines was Russia, IDK why you people demand that you get worshiped like Kim Jong Un for allowing Palestinians to receive their mail.

I'm assuming you don't live next to a Jihadist terrorist enclave who attacks you on a regular basis with weapons they receive in their mail.


Nor do you live next to an apartheid state that is systematically oppressing the people... oh, nevermind. a red farkie for you too.
 
2021-02-25 8:27:53 AM  

REDARMYVODKA: Nor do you live next to an apartheid state that is systematically oppressing the people... oh, nevermind. a red farkie for you too.


So you also have no clue what Apartheid means and completely disregard the Palestinians' own actions and decisions such as declaring Jihad on Israel, calling for its destruction (by both factions), rejecting any and all peace agreement offers (last one from Kerry in 2013) because they don't include Israel's abject surrender and elimination, attempting to murder as many Israeli civilians as possible, etc as if such things has zero consequences.
 
2021-02-25 8:39:30 AM  

MidwestPartisan: IDK why you people demand that you get worshiped like Kim Jong Un for allowing Palestinians to receive their mail.

Some

animals are just more equal.
 
2021-02-25 8:51:57 AM  

Two16: animals are just more equal.


So you didn't notice he was lying and talking out of his ass? what are the odds?
I think you should go back to your usual lying about me instead of attempting to branch out but hey, I'm not judging.
 
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