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‘’ 1 day ago  
Verbatim headlines are submitted by people who shove grandmas into open manholes.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
We should nationalize power generation and transmission facilities.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Enforce existing business laws? Give teeth back to regulators?

/crazy, I know
//not a rebuplican
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

dr_blasto: We should nationalize power generation and transmission facilities.


Cable, internet and T.V. also while you're at it.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Facebook and Apple are toying with us, and it's scarcely believable
What to do when companies think they own their customers


Unless you are an advertiser or trade in data you are not Facebook's customer. You are their product. They do own you, or at least your data that you give to them.

With Apple you are a customer for some portions of their business, and a market for other portions where they bridge the gap between suppliers and consumers.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Funny how much this quote reminds me of Nvidia

"Gatekeepers with absolute powers make bad overlords. Limiting access for profit is a heady drug as market balances no longer apply. The economics of artificial scarcity, and that can make them very rich indeed by the paradox of reducing value to your peasants - sorry, customers - and doing as little work as you can get away with. For half of the 20th century, record labels had near-absolute control over the music industry because they were the gatekeepers to the distribution channels. They grew sleek and fat, unlike most musicians. But they didn't do as well as academic publishers, who don't even have to pay for their content and could charge what they like, having engineered a market based on making publicly funded scientific knowledge as scarce as diamonds."
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
With something like Facebook, users should know that they're not the "customers" - they are the product that is being sold (or more accurately, your personal data). There is a simple solution that solves most of that though - stop using it.

Granted, they will still track you insofar as they can, even if you don't have an account - they have remarkable data mining capabilities. If you don't use facebook, but several acquaintances do, and your phone number is stored in their phone, Facebook undoubtedly has a "shadow profile" of you. That crap is disturbing.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

The Sophian Church: Enforce existing business laws? Give teeth back to regulators?

/crazy, I know
//not a rebuplican


If corporations are people, why can't we imprison them as such?
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Stop proving them right?
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

Billy Liar: The Sophian Church: Enforce existing business laws? Give teeth back to regulators?

/crazy, I know
//not a rebuplican

If corporations are people, why can't we imprison them as such?


And where's the corporate death penalty?
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
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no steala my slave
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

WTFDYW: dr_blasto: We should nationalize power generation and transmission facilities.

Cable, internet and T.V. also while you're at it.


Internet access too!
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
What company doesn't think they own their customers?
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
How about "What to do with customers who get so attached to a product they consider it a necessity of life"?  If you're having trouble getting news from Facebook, maybe read something once in a while. Or turn on the TV.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

SirMadness: Verbatim headlines are submitted by people who shove grandmas into open manholes.


Ah, the ol' granhole.  They just don't make good, family-friendly pranks like that, anymore.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Also Facebook should be required to divest itself of instagram and WhatsApp and we should break up other mergers and create laws severely limiting the amount of data mining companies like that can do without compensating people and requiring a specific opt-in so if you're not on FB, FB cannot store ANY data about you without your permission.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

eKonk: With something like Facebook, users should know that they're not the "customers" - they are the product that is being sold (or more accurately, your personal data). There is a simple solution that solves most of that though - stop using it.

Granted, they will still track you insofar as they can, even if you don't have an account - they have remarkable data mining capabilities. If you don't use facebook, but several acquaintances do, and your phone number is stored in their phone, Facebook undoubtedly has a "shadow profile" of you. That crap is disturbing.


We love Big Brother.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

dr_blasto: Also Facebook should be required to divest itself of instagram and WhatsApp and we should break up other mergers and create laws severely limiting the amount of data mining companies like that can do without compensating people and requiring a specific opt-in so if you're not on FB, FB cannot store ANY data about you without your permission.


And divest Oculus, while we have a wish list going.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Actual customer response: Denial, and upgrading to a premium plan
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Burn down the companies with the ownership, board of directors, and investors, inside, and salt the ashes.

I am not being metaphorical.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

The Sophian Church: Billy Liar: The Sophian Church: Enforce existing business laws? Give teeth back to regulators?

/crazy, I know
//not a rebuplican

If corporations are people, why can't we imprison them as such?

And where's the corporate death penalty?


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That has enough ammo to take out the board members and chiefs
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

WTFDYW: dr_blasto: We should nationalize power generation and transmission facilities.

Cable, internet and T.V. also while you're at it.


Cable & TV are dead.

They've got 10 years max before they are shutdown.
 
‘’ 22 hours ago  
The headline assumes a false premise: we are not customers of big data companies like Microsoft, Google, and Apple. e are the product being sold to their true customers: advertisers.
 
‘’ 20 hours ago  

dr_blasto: We should nationalize power generation and transmission facilities.


Only way to get Nuclear fully on the grid. China knows this, and is doing it.
 
‘’ 18 hours ago  
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‘’ 6 hours ago  

dr_blasto: Also Facebook should be required to divest itself of instagram and WhatsApp and we should break up other mergers and create laws severely limiting the amount of data mining companies like that can do without compensating people and requiring a specific opt-in so if you're not on FB, FB cannot store ANY data about you without your permission.


Like... GDPR?
 
‘’ 5 hours ago  
A stupid, docile public will agree to anything. And if many are financially bound to these companies there is no going back from it. It's a trap that only a very small percentage can truthfully boycott. The rest will never fight against their source of income.
 
‘’ 5 hours ago  

eKonk: With something like Facebook, users should know that they're not the "customers" - they are the product that is being sold (or more accurately, your personal data). There is a simple solution that solves most of that though - stop using it.

Granted, they will still track you insofar as they can, even if you don't have an account - they have remarkable data mining capabilities. If you don't use facebook, but several acquaintances do, and your phone number is stored in their phone, Facebook undoubtedly has a "shadow profile" of you. That crap is disturbing.


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Apple blocks these trackers and tracks me instead
 
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