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(Fox 32 Chicago)   Illinois lawmakers want to ban 'Grand Theft Auto' amid spike in carjackings. Next they will go after that old time rock and roll   (fox32chicago.com) divider line
    More: Silly, Chicago, Illinois, Philanthropist Early Walker, United States, Video game controversy, Motor vehicle theft, video game, Different versions of GTA  
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5 days ago  
Nothing like a bunch of pucker mouthed Jesus freaks to regulate the free market.
Thank God we have Hobby Lobby to tell us how to deal with S.E.X.
 
5 days ago  
Philanthropist Early Walker says violent video games like GTA could be influencing their young minds.

So, I wasn't sure and just looked it up, and the first version of this game (which I've never really played) was released back in 1997. I don't know how that version compares to the current version other than probably having crappier graphics, but it would seem to me that if there was going to be some sort of game-related spike in carjackings due to the game influencing young minds, you would have started seeing signs of it then. Which I suspect means that Philanthropist Early Walker is an idiot with a cool-sounding name that, unfortunately, does not scale to fit his actual value as a thinking person.
 
5 days ago  

vudukungfu: Nothing like a bunch of pucker mouthed Jesus freaks to regulate the free market.
Thank God we have Hobby Lobby to tell us how to deal with S.E.X.


Thanks for the visceral reminder of why I have you tagged as a FarkIntellectualTM.   Congressman Evans is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat trying to reduce violent crime in one of the toughest areas of the South Side.  I don't know Mr. Walker, but I know of his organization, and he too is a South Sider trying to reduce violent crime.  I might disagree with the idea that there's much if any causality between video games and crime, but I don't fault either for trying to address violence in their communities.

But, hey, go off!  If Fark is now a website where expecting student loan borrowers to repay their debts makes you a republican, what are you when you call a democratic lawmaker a "pucker mouthed Jesus freak"?
 
5 days ago  
That game launched in 2013 LOL
 
5 days ago  
It would probably be more effective if they passed a law telling local news to stop showing surveillance video of carjackings multiple times in their half hour "news" programs.
 
5 days ago  
All those unemployed marijuana salespeople can start sell GTA games.  What?  I'm being told there are no unemployed marijuana salespeople.  Odd.  I thought that legalization would take care of the illegal MJ drug sales and their rampant street fights and drive by shootings.
 
5 days ago  
Makes sense.  I know I get the urge to punch the gas every time I see a empty car trailer because of GTA.  I bet I could clear 2-3 cars in my Prius.
 
5 days ago  

Byno: I might disagree with the idea that there's much if any causality between video games and crime, but I don't fault either for trying to address violence in their communities.


This isn't trying though. This is the opposite of trying.
 
5 days ago  

vudukungfu: Nothing like a bunch of pucker mouthed Jesus freaks to regulate the free market.
Thank God we have Hobby Lobby to tell us how to deal with S.E.X.


Your talking points on puritanical ideologues wanting to regulate the free market are a generation out of date.
 
5 days ago  
FFS not this bullshiat again.   Blaming video games instead of actually trying to do something to really deal with the root causes.
 
5 days ago  

HotWingConspiracy: Byno: I might disagree with the idea that there's much if any causality between video games and crime, but I don't fault either for trying to address violence in their communities.

This isn't trying though. This is the opposite of trying.


No, it's trying.  Hot takes on the internet are not trying.  Committing or encouraging actual carjackings is the opposite of trying.
 
5 days ago  
 
5 days ago  
I blame Pac-Man for the obesity epidemic.
 
5 days ago  

Byno: vudukungfu: Nothing like a bunch of pucker mouthed Jesus freaks to regulate the free market.
Thank God we have Hobby Lobby to tell us how to deal with S.E.X.

Thanks for the visceral reminder of why I have you tagged as a FarkIntellectualTM.   Congressman Evans is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat trying to reduce violent crime in one of the toughest areas of the South Side.  I don't know Mr. Walker, but I know of his organization, and he too is a South Sider trying to reduce violent crime.  I might disagree with the idea that there's much if any causality between video games and crime, but I don't fault either for trying to address violence in their communities.

But, hey, go off!  If Fark is now a website where expecting student loan borrowers to repay their debts makes you a republican, what are you when you call a democratic lawmaker a "pucker mouthed Jesus freak"?


HAHAHAHAHHAH.  This is excellent satire.
 
5 days ago  
As a professional video game owner, all video games make me want to do is buy more video games.  Going outside would be a waste of video game time.  The only way video games would spike crime is if casuals decided to crime is what I'm saying.
 
5 days ago  
I'm sure we're all really consistent about not believing media encourages actions, and not just when it's media we like/dislike.

/grew up on gangsta rap and GTA, never carjacked anyone, but still...
 
5 days ago  
Carjackings are up everywhere.  Don't blame video games.

Modern technology, like key fobs, has made it a lot hard for thieves to just break in and hotwire the car, so they either need the fob or to carjack you.

Overall, car theft is down, but these days carjacking is a popular method to get the cars that do get stolen.
 
5 days ago  
These dummies cant stop people from taking other peoples cars at gunpoint in public but they think they can stop people from playing video games at home?
 
5 days ago  

Tad_Waxpole: Carjackings are up everywhere.  Don't blame video games.

Modern technology, like key fobs, has made it a lot hard for thieves to just break in and hotwire the car, so they either need the fob or to carjack you.

Overall, car theft is down, but these days carjacking is a popular method to get the cars that do get stolen.


Good luck getting the car fob out of my butt.
 
5 days ago  
Walker met with Illinois State Representative Marcus Evans in January and from there, legislation was drafted to amend a 2012 law preventing some games, including GTA, from being sold to children in Illinois.

No relation.
Thank God.
 
5 days ago  

Byno: vudukungfu: Nothing like a bunch of pucker mouthed Jesus freaks to regulate the free market.
Thank God we have Hobby Lobby to tell us how to deal with S.E.X.

Thanks for the visceral reminder of why I have you tagged as a FarkIntellectualTM.   Congressman Evans is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat trying to reduce violent crime in one of the toughest areas of the South Side.  I don't know Mr. Walker, but I know of his organization, and he too is a South Sider trying to reduce violent crime.  I might disagree with the idea that there's much if any causality between video games and crime, but I don't fault either for trying to address violence in their communities.

But, hey, go off!  If Fark is now a website where expecting student loan borrowers to repay their debts makes you a republican, what are you when you call a democratic lawmaker a "pucker mouthed Jesus freak"?


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Couldn't resist...
 
5 days ago  
Jack Thompson seen masturbating furiously at this news and seeing if he can practice law in Illinois after being removed from being able to practice law in Florida
 
5 days ago  

FLMountainMan: HotWingConspiracy: Byno: I might disagree with the idea that there's much if any causality between video games and crime, but I don't fault either for trying to address violence in their communities.

This isn't trying though. This is the opposite of trying.

No, it's trying.  Hot takes on the internet are not trying.  Committing or encouraging actual carjackings is the opposite of trying.


If your goal is reduce car jackings and you show up to a meeting with a proposal to ban a game that has been in the market for close to a decade with absolutely no evidence that it has anything to do with car jackings, you aren't trying.
 
5 days ago  

Byno: vudukungfu: Nothing like a bunch of pucker mouthed Jesus freaks to regulate the free market.
Thank God we have Hobby Lobby to tell us how to deal with S.E.X.

Thanks for the visceral reminder of why I have you tagged as a FarkIntellectualTM.   Congressman Evans is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat trying to reduce violent crime in one of the toughest areas of the South Side.  I don't know Mr. Walker, but I know of his organization, and he too is a South Sider trying to reduce violent crime.  I might disagree with the idea that there's much if any causality between video games and crime, but I don't fault either for trying to address violence in their communities.

But, hey, go off!  If Fark is now a website where expecting student loan borrowers to repay their debts makes you a republican, what are you when you call a democratic lawmaker a "pucker mouthed Jesus freak"?


A knee-jerk reactionary.
 
5 days ago  

vudukungfu: Nothing like a bunch of pucker mouthed Jesus freaks to regulate the free market.
Thank God we have Hobby Lobby to tell us how to deal with S.E.X.


Yet another reminder of fark being so so white.
 
5 days ago  

Moroning: Tad_Waxpole: Carjackings are up everywhere.  Don't blame video games.

Modern technology, like key fobs, has made it a lot hard for thieves to just break in and hotwire the car, so they either need the fob or to carjack you.

Overall, car theft is down, but these days carjacking is a popular method to get the cars that do get stolen.

Good luck getting the car fob out of my butt.


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5 days ago  
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Approves.
 
5 days ago  

Eightballjacket: vudukungfu: Nothing like a bunch of pucker mouthed Jesus freaks to regulate the free market.
Thank God we have Hobby Lobby to tell us how to deal with S.E.X.

Yet another reminder of fark being so so white.


Look, I'm just saying that mayonnaise is too spicy. Give me good ole Miracle Whip.
 
5 days ago  
Grand Theft Auto Theme (Joyride by Da Shootaz)
Youtube JYy69qOJWoM
 
5 days ago  
If video games influences people into a life changing lifestyle you would think we would have a lot more 30 something old plumbers running around.
 
5 days ago  
Subtonic:[Fark user image 619x337]

Couldn't resist...


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5 days ago  
Did I miss something there, or did TFA not once mention a single Illinois lawmaker who wanted to ban Grand Theft Auto (apart from the scaremongering headline)?
 
5 days ago  
GTA is already sold as 17+ only but parents buy the game for their kids anyway.
 
5 days ago  
They should ban the rocket bike that thing farkin sucks
 
5 days ago  

BeotchPudding: GTA is already sold as 17+ only but parents buy the game for their kids anyway.


We play it with my buddies 7 year old son when I visit. And you know, his mom's isn't around.
 
5 days ago  
I thought we got past this sort of thing when Jack Thompson got disbarred.
 
5 days ago  

FLMountainMan: HotWingConspiracy: Byno: I might disagree with the idea that there's much if any causality between video games and crime, but I don't fault either for trying to address violence in their communities.

This isn't trying though. This is the opposite of trying.

No, it's trying.  Hot takes on the internet are not trying.  Committing or encouraging actual carjackings is the opposite of trying.


Where's the evidence that video games actually result in real-life examples of this?

In the absence of evidence that something is harmful, society should not ban things "just in case". The Constitution is written on the principle of allowing freedoms unless they infringe on the rights of others to be free. We tend to err on the side of allowing freedom rather than restricting it.

So far, most of the research on this seems mixed. If there were a significant causal link, it should be fairly easy to show.

Obviously, kids play video games and some kids also commit crimes, because of various socio-economic factors in the US. The vast majority of the kids playing video games never commit a serious crime. Did the kids committing crimes play any GTA? Maybe. Would they have committed the crimes without GTA?

Most crimes - and, in fact, most behavior - has strong social and economic roots. People do things because their peer group does them, and because of some economic factors. A lack of parental supervision obviously creates an opportunity for kids to go out and do stupid shiat. Living in a terrible neighborhood and having to fight for everything might cause kids to become aggressive and angry, so that a carjacking is just a fun thing to do.

I'd say that living on Shiat Street, not having parents around, growing up in a house with holes in the floor and learning to sling from an early age are probably bigger factors.

So why waste time and effort on bullshiat like video games? Why not try to address the root causes - get these kids into a better environment?
 
5 days ago  
This again?  Really?
 
5 days ago  
What other 8-year-old games are they blaming for society's woes?

Me? I'm pretty sure the spike in kids breaking into houses is because they want to vacuum up ghosts like Luigi does in Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon.
 
5 days ago  
Every 7 years.
 
5 days ago  

WilderKWight: What other 8-year-old games are they blaming for society's woes?

Me? I'm pretty sure the spike in kids breaking into houses is because they want to vacuum up ghosts like Luigi does in Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon.


Maybe Assassins Creed: Black Flag was responsible for the recent uptick in sea shanties.
 
5 days ago  

HotWingConspiracy: FLMountainMan: HotWingConspiracy: Byno: I might disagree with the idea that there's much if any causality between video games and crime, but I don't fault either for trying to address violence in their communities.

This isn't trying though. This is the opposite of trying.

No, it's trying.  Hot takes on the internet are not trying.  Committing or encouraging actual carjackings is the opposite of trying.

If your goal is reduce car jackings and you show up to a meeting with a proposal to ban a game that has been in the market for close to a decade with absolutely no evidence that it has anything to do with car jackings, you aren't trying.


Another case of the comforting lie winning out over the hard truth. If you want to reduce juvenile crime you need to reduce poverty and one of the best ways to reduce poverty is with a stable two parent household. Now good luck getting that through a vote. My personal solution is to give kids some consequences to their actions that they do fear. Maybe a stern talking to scared straight kind of deal for the first offence and then feed them into the wood chipper for the second. Car jacking isn't a juvenile crime like breaking windows or maybe setting a dumpster on fire. If a kid can't understand that violently stealing a car is wrong by 16 that is a kid that is going to be costing taxpayers money for the rest of his life.
 
5 days ago  

Pocket Ninja: Philanthropist Early Walker says violent video games like GTA could be influencing their young minds.

So, I wasn't sure and just looked it up, and the first version of this game (which I've never really played) was released back in 1997. I don't know how that version compares to the current version other than probably having crappier graphics, but it would seem to me that if there was going to be some sort of game-related spike in carjackings due to the game influencing young minds, you would have started seeing signs of it then. Which I suspect means that Philanthropist Early Walker is an idiot with a cool-sounding name that, unfortunately, does not scale to fit his actual value as a thinking person.


It is pretty much the exact same game top down (II is the same old style as the first and a lot better).  If anything, the old games (I and II) were much worse.  Lots of "burn this guy alive" or "set a bomb on the truck to blow up that whole building full of nuns" type of stuff.
 
5 days ago  
The kids out carjacking don't play video games. If they did, they would be home playing video games for 10 hours a day and wouldn't be out carjacking.
 
5 days ago  
This report suggests that the surge in carjackings is due to the fact that gang members can now be masked without raising suspicion.
 
5 days ago  
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5 days ago  

thisispete: WilderKWight: What other 8-year-old games are they blaming for society's woes?

Me? I'm pretty sure the spike in kids breaking into houses is because they want to vacuum up ghosts like Luigi does in Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon.

Maybe Assassins Creed: Black Flag was responsible for the recent uptick in sea shanties.


Doesn't track. As we all know, the decrease in pirates is directly responsible for the increase in global warming. If there were more sea shanties being sung, then the Earth would be cooling again. Checkmate libulardos!
 
5 days ago  
There hasn't exactly been a rash of Faggio scooter jackings, so this is a false equivalency.
 
5 days ago  

Pocket Ninja: Philanthropist Early Walker says violent video games like GTA could be influencing their young minds.

So, I wasn't sure and just looked it up, and the first version of this game (which I've never really played) was released back in 1997. I don't know how that version compares to the current version other than probably having crappier graphics, but it would seem to me that if there was going to be some sort of game-related spike in carjackings due to the game influencing young minds, you would have started seeing signs of it then. Which I suspect means that Philanthropist Early Walker is an idiot with a cool-sounding name that, unfortunately, does not scale to fit his actual value as a thinking person.


Not to mention, the most recent version of the game is like 6 years old.

If it was JUST released and then suddenly a spike in crime, maybe I could buy the BS.  But it certainly wasn't.
 
5 days ago  
Thats why I only buy manual transmissions. Most these little shiats can only drive an automatic.
 
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