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(CTV News)   Quebec government, along with local foundations, is creating a permanent one-stop shop for services for the homeless. They could've saved a lot of money if they just gave them a one way ticket on the hound like they do in the US   (montreal.ctvnews.ca) divider line
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4 days ago  
Austerity doesn't save shiat. The economy only grows when the government spends.
 
3 days ago  

iheartscotch: Austerity doesn't save shiat. The economy only grows when the government spends.


Especially during a recession, when the government is the only body with the spending power to make a difference.
 
3 days ago  

iheartscotch: Austerity doesn't save shiat. The economy only grows when the government spends.


Bingo.

The government spends money on social services, as well as regulation to keep people from being exploited by the rich. If people have their basic needs met and aren't being exploited by the rich, then they have more money to spend. When more people are spending more money in more places, the economy grows.
 
3 days ago  
Seattle used to send mentally ill to ellensburgh on a one way ticket. Now we elect them to city council.
 
3 days ago  
GO HABS GO!

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3 days ago  
This is a pretty good idea.

Better than the way the Long Beach PD has been rousting the local homeless off their camping spaces lately. They have some pretty substantial tents going on, and not too badly kept; but now they're all over the place, and it got really messy. Sad, really.
 
3 days ago  
I know one way to end homelessness.

End capitalism. It's literally the cause of all problems the US faces.
 
3 days ago  
So they opened an REI?
 
3 days ago  
Fewer cracks to slip through. A better safety net. Somehow I don't think one-stop shopping really fits as well.... in terms of similes I mean.
 
3 days ago  
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3 days ago  
 
3 days ago  
I was born & raised in southeast Minnesota, I thought the homeless situation was bad.  When I moved to northeast Florida.(just south of Jacksonville), I realize Minnesota homeless population was next to nothing. When I drive through certain areas, there are literally blocks of homeless folk.

It's unbelievably sad to see otherwise good people, many veterans, out on the street.

/ the country owes a majority of them better situations.
 
3 days ago  
As an aside, if you know anything about Montreal construction, all those local foundations were poured by the mob.
 
3 days ago  
Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.
 
3 days ago  
While I am a touch surprised to see something this progressive and sensible being backed by the current rather right-wing provincial government, it makes sense that Quebec or BC would be the ones to try something different like this.  Both provinces lean progressive and have a homelessness issue in their biggest city.  Legault was a PQ cabinet minister so maybe he's open to the occasional left wing idea (the PQ was the only serious left wing party in the province for ages).

Hopefully they create a blueprint for something good that can be introduced into other cities to help people get back on their feet.
 
3 days ago  

frankb00th: Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.


We'll always have poutine.
 
3 days ago  
Buying homeless people bus tickets and putting them on the bus is an effective means of dealing with homelessness if you

/are sending them to a community where they know people and have a support network of people who care about them
//arrangements are made to have someone meet them.

This almost never happens.  Instead a homeless person is more likely to be loaded up on a bus iin a town where they do know people, and sent either to Florida "where it is warm" or out to California "to be the libs problem" where they have no such network.
 
3 days ago  

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3 days ago  

Kegovitch: frankb00th: Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.

We'll always have poutine.


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From Alpha in Longueuil.
So.Much.Cheese.
 
3 days ago  

LordJiro: iheartscotch: Austerity doesn't save shiat. The economy only grows when the government spends.

Bingo.

The government spends money on social services, as well as regulation to keep people from being exploited by the rich. If people have their basic needs met and aren't being exploited by the rich, then they have more money to spend. When more people are spending more money in more places, the economy grows.


And if they have enough money to get by, fewer will turn to criminal activities to make ends meet.

Also, I used to work across the street from that park, and it was a sorry site.
 
3 days ago  

frankb00th: Kegovitch: frankb00th: Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.

We'll always have poutine.

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From Alpha in Longueuil.
So.Much.Cheese.


Crap.  Now I want one.  And it's only 8:30.

I wonder if "Chez Gerard" in Laval delivers.
 
3 days ago  

iheartscotch: Austerity doesn't save shiat. The economy only grows when the government spends.


Of course it works. If your goal is to create an underclass that will work for subsistence wages, and to steal as much as possible because there is no budget for fiduciary oversight.
 
3 days ago  
Canada's Red State does that too. Klanberta gives their homeless bus tickets to BC.
 
3 days ago  

Flab: frankb00th: Kegovitch: frankb00th: Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.

We'll always have poutine.

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From Alpha in Longueuil.
So.Much.Cheese.

Crap.  Now I want one.  And it's only 8:30.

I wonder if "Chez Gerard" in Laval delivers.


Never been there. I assume it to be the good spot for poutine in Laval?
 
3 days ago  

frankb00th: Flab: frankb00th: Kegovitch: frankb00th: Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.

We'll always have poutine.

[Fark user image image 425x566]
From Alpha in Longueuil.
So.Much.Cheese.

Crap.  Now I want one.  And it's only 8:30.

I wonder if "Chez Gerard" in Laval delivers.

Never been there. I assume it to be the good spot for poutine in Laval?


I'm sure there are others, but yeah.  It hits the spot perfectly!

It's on Curé Labelle, just north of the 440.

Their pouding chômeur is also amazing and has enough calories to power a Saturn V rocket.
 
3 days ago  

Pointy Tail of Satan: GO HABS GO!

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Going right into 5th place in the division!
 
3 days ago  

ParanoidRodent: While I am a touch surprised to see something this progressive and sensible being backed by the current rather right-wing provincial government, it makes sense that Quebec or BC would be the ones to try something different like this.  Both provinces lean progressive and have a homelessness issue in their biggest city.  Legault was a PQ cabinet minister so maybe he's open to the occasional left wing idea (the PQ was the only serious left wing party in the province for ages).

Hopefully they create a blueprint for something good that can be introduced into other cities to help people get back on their feet.


Haven't fully read the article but it sounds like what San Antonio already did a few years ago.  The blueprint is already there and it works well.
 
3 days ago  
San Antonio built an entire city for care, the size of a large university campus.  It's downtown, instead of off in some neighboring county.   There are even dorms for veterans.   Everything but a Trump golf course.

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3 days ago  
In the most recent year's data (2019), The U.S. spent 18.7% of it's Gross Domestic Product (the value of all goods income and services produced, on social welfare spending.

Canada spend 17.3%

But hey, Trump bad. Canada good.

People really need to educate themselves before they make stupid claims.
 
3 days ago  

zgrizz: In the most recent year's data (2019), The U.S. spent 18.7% of it's Gross Domestic Product (the value of all goods income and services produced, on social welfare spending.

Canada spend 17.3%

But hey, Trump bad. Canada good.

People really need to educate themselves before they make stupid claims.


Canada has a single payer medical system. The US has a fend for your farking self system. So, that makes a HUGE difference.
 
3 days ago  

Flab: frankb00th: Flab: frankb00th: Kegovitch: frankb00th: Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.

We'll always have poutine.

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From Alpha in Longueuil.
So.Much.Cheese.

Crap.  Now I want one.  And it's only 8:30.

I wonder if "Chez Gerard" in Laval delivers.

Never been there. I assume it to be the good spot for poutine in Laval?

I'm sure there are others, but yeah.  It hits the spot perfectly!

It's on Curé Labelle, just north of the 440.

Their pouding chômeur is also amazing and has enough calories to power a Saturn V rocket.


Oh I make my own pouding chomeur. Nobody uses maple syrup for theirs but I do.
Thanks for the address.
Alfa is on chemin chambly near jacques cartier. Theirs is legendary.
 
3 days ago  

zgrizz: In the most recent year's data (2019), The U.S. spent 18.7% of it's Gross Domestic Product (the value of all goods income and services produced, on social welfare spending.

Canada spend 17.3%

But hey, Trump bad. Canada good.

People really need to educate themselves before they make stupid claims.


All this shows is that the US is incompetent, what with spending more money and doing worse with it.
 
3 days ago  

frankb00th: Kegovitch: frankb00th: Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.

We'll always have poutine.

[Fark user image 425x566]
From Alpha in Longueuil.
So.Much.Cheese.


which Alpha?
 
3 days ago  

frankb00th: Flab: frankb00th: Flab: frankb00th: Kegovitch: frankb00th: Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.

We'll always have poutine.

[Fark user image image 425x566]
From Alpha in Longueuil.
So.Much.Cheese.

Crap.  Now I want one.  And it's only 8:30.

I wonder if "Chez Gerard" in Laval delivers.

Never been there. I assume it to be the good spot for poutine in Laval?

I'm sure there are others, but yeah.  It hits the spot perfectly!

It's on Curé Labelle, just north of the 440.

Their pouding chômeur is also amazing and has enough calories to power a Saturn V rocket.

Oh I make my own pouding chomeur. Nobody uses maple syrup for theirs but I do.
Thanks for the address.
Alfa is on chemin chambly near jacques cartier. Theirs is legendary.


Oh. Didn't see this post.   Yeah, I've been going to this one since before the days I could see over the counter.
My neighbour (who would take me there as a kid) and the owner were friends from way back.  Best potatoes = best fries.
 
3 days ago  

Kegovitch: frankb00th: Kegovitch: frankb00th: Happy to have my province featured in something to be proud of for a change.

We'll always have poutine.

[Fark user image 425x566]
From Alpha in Longueuil.
So.Much.Cheese.

which Alpha?


The one on ch Chambly
 
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