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(SFGate)   Bowing to public pressure SF school board shelves plan to rename schools honoring history's greatest monsters such as Abraham Lincoln and whichever Roosevelt that one was named for   (sfgate.com) divider line
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6 days ago  
Bunch of stupid people taking shiat too farking far. EVERY historical figure has done something that someone else doesn't like. Every non-historical figure as well. Your mom may have told some racist jokes when she was a kid. Your dad might have been a horndog in college that wanted to do nothing more than get a girl drunk so she'd sleep with him. EVERYONE has some kind of skeleton in their closet, no matter how small that skeleton is. This looking thru a microscope shiat is stupid, wastes time, and isn't making them any farking friends.
 
6 days ago  
Good. farking hell.
 
6 days ago  
Good.  Stop giving dumbass conservatives fodder for their otherwise idiotic "slippery slope" arguments...
 
6 days ago  
The Donald J. Trump Skool for Grifting Jeniuses

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6 days ago  
"Consult historians..." Spend taxpayer's money instead of learning a little history yourself.
 
6 days ago  
This is exactly the kind of performative wokeness that conservatives point to when trying to discredit liberals.  Glad to see SF finally came to its senses, if only briefly and reluctantly.
 
6 days ago  
Lets only name schools after fictional characters.

Batman Elementary

Axel Foley Middle School

ET High
 
6 days ago  
They will try again later, the woke column will not accept defeat easily.
 
6 days ago  
Does the SF school board president actually refer to herself as Madam President?
 
6 days ago  
When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!
 
6 days ago  

Mikey1969: Bunch of stupid people taking shiat too farking far. EVERY historical figure has done something that someone else doesn't like. Every non-historical figure as well. Your mom may have told some racist jokes when she was a kid. Your dad might have been a horndog in college that wanted to do nothing more than get a girl drunk so she'd sleep with him. EVERYONE has some kind of skeleton in their closet, no matter how small that skeleton is. This looking thru a microscope shiat is stupid, wastes time, and isn't making them any farking friends.


Maybe we should just stop lionizing individuals and celebrate our ideals instead?

Nobody needs to be on a pedestal and cults of personality are creepy.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  

JesseL: Mikey1969: Bunch of stupid people taking shiat too farking far. EVERY historical figure has done something that someone else doesn't like. Every non-historical figure as well. Your mom may have told some racist jokes when she was a kid. Your dad might have been a horndog in college that wanted to do nothing more than get a girl drunk so she'd sleep with him. EVERYONE has some kind of skeleton in their closet, no matter how small that skeleton is. This looking thru a microscope shiat is stupid, wastes time, and isn't making them any farking friends.

Maybe we should just stop lionizing individuals and celebrate our ideals instead?

Nobody needs to be on a pedestal and cults of personality are creepy.


Those individuals contribute to the ideals you're talking about. Part of remembering history so that you don't repeat it is noting the people who were there at the time to help make these changes.
 
6 days ago  
Drop the names and go alphanumeric (PS1-whatever), problem farking solved.
 
6 days ago  

Mikey1969: Bunch of stupid people taking shiat too farking far. EVERY historical figure has done something that someone else doesn't like. Every non-historical figure as well. Your mom may have told some racist jokes when she was a kid. Your dad might have been a horndog in college that wanted to do nothing more than get a girl drunk so she'd sleep with him. EVERYONE has some kind of skeleton in their closet, no matter how small that skeleton is. This looking thru a microscope shiat is stupid, wastes time, and isn't making them any farking friends.


So when you name a building after someone, erect a statue, etc., the message is that we should overlook all of the bad stuff because they also did good?

Just stop naming things after people and building statues. And when removing these people's names, nobody is sandblasting their contributions to US History - we're just saying that they don't deserve to be memorialized this way because the implicit message is that they were perfect.
 
6 days ago  

Mikey1969: Bunch of stupid people taking shiat too farking far. EVERY historical figure has done something that someone else doesn't like. Every non-historical figure as well. Your mom may have told some racist jokes when she was a kid. Your dad might have been a horndog in college that wanted to do nothing more than get a girl drunk so she'd sleep with him. EVERYONE has some kind of skeleton in their closet, no matter how small that skeleton is. This looking thru a microscope shiat is stupid, wastes time, and isn't making them any farking friends.


lol relax boomer
 
6 days ago  

Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!


Right? It makes no cents.
 
6 days ago  

Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!


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Reverse course, Sulu!!!! Reverse course!
 
6 days ago  

Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!


Sometime on or before April 15th, 1865.
 
6 days ago  

Madman drummers bummers: Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!

Right? It makes no cents.


Ugh, and here come the puns.  Well, in for a penny...
 
6 days ago  

thornhill: Mikey1969: Bunch of stupid people taking shiat too farking far. EVERY historical figure has done something that someone else doesn't like. Every non-historical figure as well. Your mom may have told some racist jokes when she was a kid. Your dad might have been a horndog in college that wanted to do nothing more than get a girl drunk so she'd sleep with him. EVERYONE has some kind of skeleton in their closet, no matter how small that skeleton is. This looking thru a microscope shiat is stupid, wastes time, and isn't making them any farking friends.

So when you name a building after someone, erect a statue, etc., the message is that we should overlook all of the bad stuff because they also did good?

Just stop naming things after people and building statues. And when removing these people's names, nobody is sandblasting their contributions to US History - we're just saying that they don't deserve to be memorialized this way because the implicit message is that they were perfect.


Whatever the merits of that proposal, spending a million bucks and vast amounts of staff time on eradicating names that are already there, and doing it for empty damn buildings that you somehow can't get open, that's just a stupid squandering of resources that would be far better dedicated to other goals.
 
6 days ago  

Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!


*shrug* Historically, the people who most usually hated on Lincoln were racist Confederates.  Therefore, it follows logically that the people hating on Lincoln now are racist Confederates.  So now we can be reasonably sure that the SF school board - along with Farkers who agree with the school board's decision - are racist Confederates, and should be called racist Confederates every time they're brought up.

QED.

/not entirelyserious, but not entirely not, either
 
6 days ago  

Mikey1969: Bunch of stupid people taking shiat too farking far. EVERY historical figure has done something that someone else doesn't like. Every non-historical figure as well. Your mom may have told some racist jokes when she was a kid. Your dad might have been a horndog in college that wanted to do nothing more than get a girl drunk so she'd sleep with him. EVERYONE has some kind of skeleton in their closet, no matter how small that skeleton is. This looking thru a microscope shiat is stupid, wastes time, and isn't making them any farking friends.


No, I disagree, we should also teach and acknowledge people's faults as well as their accomplishments.  Not only is it historically accurate to do so, it shows that no one is infallible and that absolute perfection is impossible and not the ultimate goal in life.  Not a waste of time at all.
 
6 days ago  
I'm torn. On one hand, I couldn't care less about what a city I hate, names its schools. On the other hand, I don't love the idea of these idiots being in charge of educating the next generation.
 
6 days ago  

Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!


Erasing him is a means to an end.  These people hate western civilization and wish to destroy our cultural foundation in order to replace it with their preferred system.

Also, there are the people who just want to biatch and moan to get attention.  Cry for the cameras and politicians will fight each other to be seen trying to fix the problem.
 
6 days ago  
Adolf Hitler High
Josef Stalin Preschool
 
6 days ago  
While we're at it, we should kick Harmon Killebrew out of the baseball Hall of Fame. In 1967, he once called some chick a broad, and dames don't like it when you do that.
 
6 days ago  
They only did this because people are circulating a recall petition. If their jobs weren't at risk they would be moving ahead with this.

Assholes.
 
6 days ago  
FTFA: '...The school board approved three weeks ago the renaming of schools in seeking to exclude affiliations with racism, slavery, colonization and other troubled legacies.'

SF IS troubled.. legacy or not.

// ignore past, repeat in the future and all that
 
6 days ago  

thornhill: Mikey1969: Bunch of stupid people taking shiat too farking far. EVERY historical figure has done something that someone else doesn't like. Every non-historical figure as well. Your mom may have told some racist jokes when she was a kid. Your dad might have been a horndog in college that wanted to do nothing more than get a girl drunk so she'd sleep with him. EVERYONE has some kind of skeleton in their closet, no matter how small that skeleton is. This looking thru a microscope shiat is stupid, wastes time, and isn't making them any farking friends.

So when you name a building after someone, erect a statue, etc., the message is that we should overlook all of the bad stuff because they also did good?

Just stop naming things after people and building statues. And when removing these people's names, nobody is sandblasting their contributions to US History - we're just saying that they don't deserve to be memorialized this way because the implicit message is that they were perfect.


I don't think anyone is calling anybody perfect, except you.

Learn history, put yourself in peoples shoes at a point in time in history, study the socio-economic norms of the time, then with that knowledge look at the decisions that were made.

I know, it's so much eaiser to say Lincoln did something bad to the Native Americans so lets throw out the fact that he was the reason slavery ended when it did. It's called celebrating leadership in dificult times
 
6 days ago  

SirEattonHogg: Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!

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Reverse course, Sulu!!!! Reverse course!


Quite hypnotic!!!
 
6 days ago  

guestguy: Good.  Stop giving dumbass conservatives fodder for their otherwise idiotic "slippery slope" arguments...


As we all slide down it, some peeps on it still claim it doesn't exist.

Kind of like flat earthers, I suppose.
 
6 days ago  
SF school board pauses renaming 44 schools, promises to consult historians in future


And by "historians" they mean twitter and whatever political breeze happens to be blowing that day.
 
6 days ago  
I also want to say that the renaming bullshiat is purely a product of an out of control and unaccountable school board. Nobody in San Francisco agrees with what they're doing. We all think they're stupid assholes.

/I mean I'm sure there's someone but they're being awful quiet about it.
 
6 days ago  

wax_on: They only did this because people are circulating a recall petition. If their jobs weren't at risk they would be moving ahead with this.

Assholes.


I have never before looked forward to the city general election as much as I do this one, too bad it isn't until 2022.  These farkers are wrapping themselves up robes of piety & holier than thou attitudes to raise their profiles for further city political positions. And doing this while completely failing to educate our kids for the past year is just way too much, even for SF.
 
6 days ago  

mikaloyd: SF school board pauses renaming 44 schools, promises to consult historians in future


And by "historians" they mean twitter and whatever political breeze happens to be blowing that day.


IYKWIM
 
6 days ago  

State_College_Arsonist: Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!

Erasing him is a means to an end.  These people hate western civilization and wish to destroy our cultural foundation in order to replace it with their preferred system.


On the one hand, the fact that I know that you genuinely believe these words is really depressing, because you are symptomatic of the disease of stupid that has infected our once great nation.

But, also on the other hand, it's hilarious to me that you believe these things, and the abject misery of batshiat insanity that dominates your life as a result of it is the funniest goddamned thing I can think of.

Shine on, little social media buddy!
 
6 days ago  

Robo Beat: This is exactly the kind of performative wokeness that conservatives point to when trying to discredit liberals.  Glad to see SF finally came to its senses, if only briefly and reluctantly.


Definitely time to break up this echo chamber. Between this and "acronyms are white supremacy", this group has already dropped two nationally embarrassing turds into the liberal punchbowl in a months time.
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This is a perfect example of what happens when a group purges all moderating influences. I bet that after a long string of unanimous votes, the fact this particular vote had one dissenting vote meant that the next vote they took was a unanimous vote to expel that member as 'problematic'.
 
6 days ago  

GORDON: guestguy: Good.  Stop giving dumbass conservatives fodder for their otherwise idiotic "slippery slope" arguments...

As we all slide down it, some peeps on it still claim it doesn't exist.

Kind of like flat earthers, I suppose.


Or QAnon...amirite?
 
6 days ago  
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Meanwhile in NYC...
 
6 days ago  

Iamos: wax_on: They only did this because people are circulating a recall petition. If their jobs weren't at risk they would be moving ahead with this.

Assholes.

I have never before looked forward to the city general election as much as I do this one, too bad it isn't until 2022.  These farkers are wrapping themselves up robes of piety & holier than thou attitudes to raise their profiles for further city political positions. And doing this while completely failing to educate our kids for the past year is just way too much, even for SF.


Me too. But also looking forward to a recall petition. So unbelievably pissed off about this (and the whole schools not reopening way back in October when we were in yellow tier.)

Do you have kids in SFUSD?
 
6 days ago  

spleef420: Drop the names and go alphanumeric (PS1-whatever), problem farking solved.


Ah, the Chinese solution. I suspect we'll be seeing much more along those lines in the coming years.
 
6 days ago  
It's a good idea to consult actual historians paid to do history before doing historical things. Who knew? Besides, we have enough schools named after Presidents. They are plenty of local CA historical movers, shakers and role models who would be better choices.
 
6 days ago  

spleef420: Drop the names and go alphanumeric (PS1-whatever), problem farking solved.


Yup.  420 High couldn't possibly injure anyone's sensibilities.
 
6 days ago  

spleef420: Drop the names and go alphanumeric (PS1-whatever), problem farking solved.


That's how you end up with a school named after PS-1918553 the murderous killbot.
 
6 days ago  
What's wrong with "<name of local suburb> High School"?
Or just sell out completely and have "Google™ Elementary"?
 
6 days ago  

Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!


No president in history has confiscated as much personal property as he did.
 
6 days ago  

Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!


Well, the Mescalero Apaches and the Navajo aren't particularly fond of him, since he authorized genocide and ethnic cleansing of their lands.
 
6 days ago  
Are acronyms still white supremacy, or did they cave on that too? I've been running around shouting things like "HIPPA! LASER! PIN!" at minorities to assert my dominance, I just wanted to make sure that was still going to work.
 
6 days ago  

Marcos P: When did people start hating on Lincoln? What the fark!


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1) Southern Neo-Confederates never cared for him. 2) People tired of self-congratulatory whitewashing northern braggart liberals who patronize centuries of black liberation activism got tired of him ever since decades ago.

History isn't even past.
 
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