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(NPR)   People everywhere are still trying to understand how the hell freakin' West Virginia became a world leader in providing COVID-19 vaccinations to its citizens. It's as if Florida suddenly became ground zero for new Nobel nominations. Turns out there's are good reasons why   (npr.org) divider line
    More: Interesting, Vaccine, Charleston, West Virginia, Virginia, Jay Rockefeller, Government, Health department, United States, Nevada  
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7037 clicks; posted to Main » and Politics » on 22 Feb 2021 at 11:35 AM (6 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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6 days ago  
Because WV knows how to use needles.
 
6 days ago  
They focused on the basics.
 
6 days ago  
Government, governing?  It can happen.  The GOP rejected effective governance for the past 40 years, in hopes of creating a White Supremacist Theocracy.

Those hopes are fading.
 
6 days ago  
They mixed the vaccine with fentanyl?
 
6 days ago  
"...from their county health departments"

From the dang government?? Sounds like some kinda Joe Stalin, Ho Chi Minh flavored commie bullcrap to me.
 
6 days ago  
People in WV are easily herded.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  

Leftover Cocaine: They mixed the vaccine with fentanyl?


Username checks out.
 
6 days ago  
They didn't put a ton of effort into a bureaucracy and distribution plan with the de facto goal of keeping people from getting vaccinated.
 
6 days ago  
Marketing,

The COVID-19 Vaccine has been shown effective against the John Denver earworm
 
6 days ago  
Free sheep with every jab?
 
6 days ago  
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
 
6 days ago  
Because the federal government did all the heavy lifting.

/you can thank the taxpayers any time now
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
The smaller the denominator, the greater the ratio.

Less than 2m people live in WV, but they are right next to the northeast megapolis. So logistics are on their side. And good for them. I have aging boomer relatives in WV so I'm glad the odds favor them.
 
6 days ago  
Because West Virginia doesn't have philosophical exemptions to vaccination, just medical exceptions?
 
6 days ago  
Solutions using straightforward, proven technology are faster and easier to implement, and are more familiar and acceptable to the user base.

That applies to almost everything that's intended to be used by the broadest swath of the public.
 
6 days ago  

Walker: Keep
It
Simple
Stupid


Yep...tl;dr for the article: used the phone, not the internet.


In WV internet penetration is terrible so not much of an option. Side benefit is many elderly folks (those 70+ aren't as net savvy so they had to use old fashioned phone banks and man power. Sometimes the old ways are the best ways, especially when you have a low population state.
 
6 days ago  
So...

They had the Government, not a Private concern, manage things in a centralized manner.

They have a relatively small population that minimized scale issues.

They accurately identified the needs and capabilities of their population and those in need (significant lack of access to broadband internet, large numbers of old people, etc) and adapted their response accordingly.

And it worked? Shocking. Well, no it's not, the only shocking part is WV.
 
6 days ago  
I assume they just load a bunch of filled syringes into some sort of giant slingshot, and then fire it into the hills towards the banjo sounds.
 
6 days ago  

Marcus Aurelius: Government, governing?  It can happen.  The GOP rejected effective governance for the past 40 years, in hopes of creating a White Supremacist Theocracy.

Those hopes are fading.


Dude, take a deep breath and also try switching to Sanka. You'll live longer to gloat more if you pace yourself.
 
6 days ago  
they didn't follow the Trump model of pushing the responsibility downhill.
 
6 days ago  
The state decided not to outsource the hotline to a private company as some states have done, housing it instead under the Department of Health and Human Resources

Hm.
 
6 days ago  

RyansPrivates: Walker: Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

Yep...tl;dr for the article: used the phone, not the internet.


In WV internet penetration is terrible so not much of an option. Side benefit is many elderly folks (those 70+ aren't as net savvy so they had to use old fashioned phone banks and man power. Sometimes the old ways are the best ways, especially when you have a low population state.


We should have cross-trained the thousands-strong national contact tracing call center to schedule vaccine appointments.

Ha. Ha ha ha.
 
6 days ago  

guestguy: I assume they just load a bunch of filled syringes into some sort of giant slingshot, and then fire it into the hills towards the banjo sounds.


Glad all the banjo picking bigfoots are now vaccinated.
 
6 days ago  
They're just injecting anti-freeze and moonshine into people.
 
6 days ago  

RyansPrivates: Walker: Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

Yep...tl;dr for the article: used the phone, not the internet.


In WV internet penetration is terrible so not much of an option. Side benefit is many elderly folks (those 70+ aren't as net savvy so they had to use old fashioned phone banks and man power. Sometimes the old ways are the best ways, especially when you have a low population state.


And plenty of people willing to work cheap to man the phone lines.
 
6 days ago  
Free vaccine with every buffet dinner?
 
6 days ago  
They told them getting vaccinated would bring back coal?
 
6 days ago  

edmo: They focused on the basics.


The government did it, and they used available technology instead of "ideal" technology.
 
6 days ago  

cowgirl toffee: guestguy: I assume they just load a bunch of filled syringes into some sort of giant slingshot, and then fire it into the hills towards the banjo sounds.

Glad all the banjo picking bigfoots are now vaccinated.


Well they are a national treasure...
 
6 days ago  
It looks like smaller states received more doses per people - WV has received 1 dose per 3.7 people and NC 1 per 4.48 people - so that's helping.

I also imagine that larger states tend to have more counties, the vaccine is being administered through county health departments, and thus, the larger the state, the more of a bureaucrat nightmare this is (I'm not surprised that Georgia, with 158 counties is near the bottom of the list, as is Texas with 254).
 
6 days ago  
And yet somehow, we keep electing morons to the state Senate who wear mesh jockstraps as protective masks.

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/Yes, he's quite bootstrappy. Obsessively so
//Ran to Florida after he lost his last election for being an asshole
///Wish he had stayed
 
6 days ago  

RyansPrivates: Walker: Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

Yep...tl;dr for the article: used the phone, not the internet.


In WV internet penetration is terrible so not much of an option. Side benefit is many elderly folks (those 70+ aren't as net savvy so they had to use old fashioned phone banks and man power. Sometimes the old ways are the best ways, especially when you have a low population state.


Getting a vaccine for my 80 year old non-computer user mother here in California has been a challenge.  It's not like I can sign up on-line for her (not that any of those websites actually have any appointments available-apparently you have to sit on them all day and jump in the moment they are available like you are buying a Playstation 5).  Apparently, she is on a waiting list at her main medical provider and they will phone her when they have an appointment available.  At least in theory.
 
6 days ago  

Cheron: Marketing,

The COVID-19 Vaccine has been shown effective against the John Denver earworm


which is a song written about Maryland
 
6 days ago  
They have administered 450k doses which means they received at least that many. With a state population of only 1.8m.  Meanwhile Idaho has a slightly higher population and received 100k fewer doses. Washington has over 4x as many people and only received about 3x as many doses.
 
6 days ago  
We in WV all assume Big Jim is getting some kickbacks.  At least we are getting the tide turned, regardless.  I was surprised at the long lines when I went in to get my shot as a healthcare worker.  It was a pain to get them in masks a year ago but they want the vaccine.  I have no idea.
 
6 days ago  
Because the population is really small?  Alaska is also doing really well.
 
6 days ago  

guestguy: cowgirl toffee: guestguy: I assume they just load a bunch of filled syringes into some sort of giant slingshot, and then fire it into the hills towards the banjo sounds.

Glad all the banjo picking bigfoots are now vaccinated.

Well they are a national treasure...


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6 days ago  

cefm: They have administered 450k doses which means they received at least that many. With a state population of only 1.8m.  Meanwhile Idaho has a slightly higher population and received 100k fewer doses. Washington has over 4x as many people and only received about 3x as many doses.


Sounds right.  The feds announced that more vaccines would go to states that adminsiter more of it.
 
6 days ago  
Maybe they hid the vaccine in their step daughters panty drawer.
 
6 days ago  
Sounds like it was largely because of a single person in charge of distributing vaccines who was actually competent and was able to learn from early mistakes.  Being a smaller state likely helped.
 
6 days ago  
A google search also shows West Virginia has a population  of 1.7 million people. For comparison, L.A. county ALONE is 6 times that size. ONE county.

I just wish people would quit acting like its the same battle for every state. Its not.
 
6 days ago  

cleek: they didn't follow the Trump model of pushing the responsibility downhill.


Wouldn't work - whole damn state is uphill ...
 
6 days ago  

Geotpf: It's not like I can sign up on-line


Same in PA.  I have like 5 windows open for various pharmacies and once they have an appointment slot I'll get Mom on the phone and figure it out on my end.  What a mess.
 
6 days ago  
I'd file this under "Squeaky hinge gets the grease" mixed with knowing your audience.

Lots of pre-existing conditions in WV making Covid more lethal, Also, Officials were wise enough to know an internet-based solution isn't going to work when your audience is elderly and/or doesn't have access to the internet.
 
6 days ago  
Because their rejection of fluoridated water scratched that itch.
 
6 days ago  

Walker: Keep
It
Simple
Stupid


This.

FrancoFile: Solutions using straightforward, proven technology are faster and easier to implement, and are more familiar and acceptable to the user base.

That applies to almost everything that's intended to be used by the broadest swath of the public.


And that.

As opposed to states like NJ, whose governor somehow thinks...

"Remember we are building the airplane here as we're flying it," he said. "It may be the most complex logistical undertaking - other than going to war - in the history of the United States."

/We already have plenty of infrastructure, communications and delivery points to make this happen. We just need to use them.
//And it's not like they didn't have nearly AN ENTIRE GODDAMNED YEAR to figure out how to do this.
 
6 days ago  

Flint Largechest: A google search also shows West Virginia has a population  of 1.7 million people. For comparison, L.A. county ALONE is 6 times that size. ONE county.

I just wish people would quit acting like its the same battle for every state. Its not.


I wish people would figure out what per capita numbers mean and stop making excuses for incompetence. 

Last time we had this thread there was a dude trying to explain that California can't distribute vaccines as well because they have more traffic.
 
6 days ago  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of​_​people_from_West_Virginia

Fark is getting dull with all the shiatting on "other" states.

Every state in the union has something of interest, of value, including the people who live there.

Negative stereotyping is a reflection on you, not on "them"
 
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