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(Washington Post)   Old and busted: Trump hotel sucks. New hotness: Trump hotel illegally sucks water from the Chicago River   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2021-02-06 12:22:21 AM  
The Chicago River cleanup was a big deal; you can fish and kayak in it now. And live! So, thermal pollution of that water is a no-no.
 
2021-02-06 12:26:33 AM  
Trump's hotel had a deadline of April 1, 2017, to renew its permit. Instead, the attorney general said, the state did not receive the application until May 26.

Meh. Let him have this one.
 
2021-02-06 12:36:10 AM  
From what's being reported elsewhere, the fine for all this is gonna be a whopper when it is all totaled up. Love it.
 
2021-02-06 1:23:20 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Trump's hotel had a deadline of April 1, 2017, to renew its permit. Instead, the attorney general said, the state did not receive the application until May 26.

Meh. Let him have this one.


He'll have nothing and  like it.

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2021-02-06 3:17:49 AM  
Old hotness. I heard about this years ago, from Fark? Something about pumping water in, cooling the building, pumping warm water back out.
 
2021-02-06 5:52:52 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Trump's hotel had a deadline of April 1, 2017, to renew its permit. Instead, the attorney general said, the state did not receive the application until May 26.

Meh. Let him have this one.


Agreed.  Or fine the company for the time between expiration and re-application.

Paperwork mixups happen.  Now, if it was six months or a year late, sure, invalidate the permit and fine them for every day since.  But not for less than 60 days.

That said, they should cancel the permit effective the next time it expires, or at least require them to update their HVAC system within x years.  The permit was expired, grandfathering no longer applies.
 
2021-02-06 7:40:49 AM  

PerryWinnwet: Old hotness. I heard about this years ago, from Fark? Something about pumping water in, cooling the building, pumping warm water back out.


You mean this one?
 
2021-02-06 9:41:47 AM  

Any Pie Left: The Chicago River cleanup was a big deal; you can fish and kayak in it now. And live! So, thermal pollution of that water is a no-no.


Right, but all you need to do is pay for a Permit and you can do it all year long.
 
2021-02-06 1:05:33 PM  
Nothing new here. Trump hotels have been well known for their pollution. At least this time around it wasn't dumping raw sewage in the river. Though as long as the fine is a fraction of the money saved, it will forever keep on happening from shady people.
 
2021-02-06 4:27:55 PM  

Bukharin: Ivo Shandor: Trump's hotel had a deadline of April 1, 2017, to renew its permit. Instead, the attorney general said, the state did not receive the application until May 26.

Meh. Let him have this one.

He'll have nothing and  like it.

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2021-02-06 8:43:16 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Trump's hotel had a deadline of April 1, 2017, to renew its permit. Instead, the attorney general said, the state did not receive the application until May 26.

Meh. Let him have this one.


Out of curiosity, why?

It's a bad deal for the city and the environment, and the failure to renew on time is a perfectly reasonable reason to reassess. The rules should apply, unless a request for extension was submitted..

I know this is small on to the incredibly long list of violations, frauds, crimes, grifts, and general corruption perpetrated by the Trump business empire, but why should that make it ok to ignore?  Moderate the fine while they've been in violation?  Ok to put it at something equivalent to other violators I suppose, but certainly within the bounds of fair regulation to penalize at the legal rate.
 
2021-02-06 8:56:49 PM  

IncessantHooting: Ivo Shandor: Trump's hotel had a deadline of April 1, 2017, to renew its permit. Instead, the attorney general said, the state did not receive the application until May 26.

Meh. Let him have this one.

Out of curiosity, why?

It's a bad deal for the city and the environment, and the failure to renew on time is a perfectly reasonable reason to reassess. The rules should apply, unless a request for extension was submitted..

I know this is small on to the incredibly long list of violations, frauds, crimes, grifts, and general corruption perpetrated by the Trump business empire, but why should that make it ok to ignore?  Moderate the fine while they've been in violation?  Ok to put it at something equivalent to other violators I suppose, but certainly within the bounds of fair regulation to penalize at the legal rate.


They were a few weeks late on filing some paperwork, and the actual harm to the city is minimal. They're not dumping toxic waste into the river. It's a carbon-neutral way of cooling the building. I don't think it's worth throwing legal resources at this when there are so many other crimes to consider.
 
2021-02-06 10:14:32 PM  
Every Trump property should be seized, shuttered, and turned into halfway houses for the homeless. "Biden Shelters" we'll call 'em.
 
2021-02-07 11:34:45 AM  

Ivo Shandor: IncessantHooting: Ivo Shandor: Trump's hotel had a deadline of April 1, 2017, to renew its permit. Instead, the attorney general said, the state did not receive the application until May 26.

Meh. Let him have this one.

Out of curiosity, why?

It's a bad deal for the city and the environment, and the failure to renew on time is a perfectly reasonable reason to reassess. The rules should apply, unless a request for extension was submitted..

I know this is small on to the incredibly long list of violations, frauds, crimes, grifts, and general corruption perpetrated by the Trump business empire, but why should that make it ok to ignore?  Moderate the fine while they've been in violation?  Ok to put it at something equivalent to other violators I suppose, but certainly within the bounds of fair regulation to penalize at the legal rate.

They were a few weeks late on filing some paperwork, and the actual harm to the city is minimal. They're not dumping toxic waste into the river. It's a carbon-neutral way of cooling the building. I don't think it's worth throwing legal resources at this when there are so many other crimes to consider.


But did they ever re-apply?  Or did they simply say "Since you're suing us, we're not going to renew the permit" and they've been in violation the whole three years? Which means the system probably isn't inspected, so who knows how it's performing now?  

If you don't renew the tags on your car for over a year and skip the biannual inspection, the state doesn't let you just skip that payment and inspection; if you want to renew you have to pay for two years and get the inspection done.
 
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