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(The New York Times)   The truth is that Mitch McConnell was actually done with Trump and ready to impeach him. It's the rest of the party, though, that still hasn't lost that lovin' feeling and would likely turn on him if tries to force the issue. Fark needs a coward tag   (nytimes.com) divider line
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2021-01-28 8:12:57 AM  
Looks like Moscow Mitch waited to long to pull the rip cord.

<inhales deeply>

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2021-01-28 8:17:42 AM  
An anonymous vote in the senate and he would be like 95-5 to convict.
 
2021-01-28 8:20:20 AM  
Truth is B*tch McCankles is a disgustingly racist, classist, political animal that only cares about money and power. Trump threatened and took away a huge amount of his power. But, he also needs those rabid GOP animal voters to fuel the power he has left.

So, he's kind of f*cked and I hope he has a stroke over it.
 
2021-01-28 8:22:23 AM  
This truth brought to you by Mitch McConnells PR team.
 
2021-01-28 8:30:16 AM  
The infection has taken over the host.  I can't believe there has ever been a collection of leaders as stupid as what the R party appears to be right now.
 
2021-01-28 9:25:05 AM  
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2021-01-28 9:31:11 AM  
You made your bed, GOP.  Now sleep in it.
 
2021-01-28 9:32:21 AM  

IgG4: An anonymous vote in the senate and he would be like 95-5 to convict.


Can they do that?  Is it written somewhere that impeachment votes have to be on record for each senator?
 
2021-01-28 9:42:55 AM  

xanadian: IgG4: An anonymous vote in the senate and he would be like 95-5 to convict.

Can they do that?  Is it written somewhere that impeachment votes have to be on record for each senator?


They set their own rules and can do whatever they want. I think a lot lot of people would like votes on the record here especially Trump, but there is no requirement that I know of.
 
2021-01-28 9:46:51 AM  

xanadian: IgG4: An anonymous vote in the senate and he would be like 95-5 to convict.

Can they do that?  Is it written somewhere that impeachment votes have to be on record for each senator?


There was some discussion about this in the first impeachment trial last year. I don't remember whether it was decided they could do that. But each house of Congress gets to set their own procedural rules, so, probably?

And I don't think it would be 95-5. More like 80-20 to allow plausible deniability, like the ghosts in Family Circus.

It would be fun to watch the eruptions if the Senate said "It will be a secret ballot. Dominion Voting Systems will provide the technology."

Actually, we know they would use a paper ballot, and they'd probably open and record the votes from the dais. So, I wonder (assuming they are all present) if they get to 67 "conviction" votes of they would just stop at that point and move on to the next question of permanently barring Trump from holding a Federal office ever again.
 
2021-01-28 9:58:02 AM  

Gubbo: This truth brought to you by Mitch McConnells PR team.


I actually believe it.  McConnell only cares about McConnell.  He doesn't even care that Trump gets credit for the SCOTUS picks, even though those were 100% Mitch.  There's no reason to believe that he doesn't see the writing on the wall with the GOP and Trump, which is the only reason he wants to impeach.  He couldn't care less about the insurrection.  Only how that affects his status.
 
2021-01-28 9:58:43 AM  
Mitch seems like a throwback to the days where Republican's were just evil profiteering arseholes as opposed to being traitorous profiteering evil arseholes.

I miss those days.
 
2021-01-28 9:58:44 AM  
Because it's more important to get reelected than to do what is right. Democrazy!
 
2021-01-28 9:59:34 AM  
This sounds awfully self-serving for Moscow Mitch, getting credit for wanting to impeach the Orange Traitor yet not voting to impeach him.

Moscow Mitch is as big a liar as the Orange Traitor. His words are worthless. Judge him by what he does.
 
2021-01-28 9:59:46 AM  
I think there is still a chance that some rapepublicans grow some balls and indict him.

The reason 45 of them voted about constitutionality was to use that as a fence that they didn't support Dotard but it was procedural. (they are apparently still scared of him)

However, once they are forced to go on record after the insurrection they can either be scared of Dotard and his cult or scared of the American people and intelligence agencies (and probably foreign intelligence agencies who will view them as terrorists).
 
2021-01-28 10:00:18 AM  
Well... duh.
 
2021-01-28 10:00:19 AM  
You never close your eyes anymore when I grab your p****.
And there's no biglyness like before in your fingertips.
 
2021-01-28 10:01:13 AM  
The truth is Mitch is going to help acquit Trump yet again and will welcome him with open arms in 2024.
 
2021-01-28 10:01:48 AM  
Sure, he's a traitor but he isn't happy about it. That's what he's going with?
 
2021-01-28 10:02:20 AM  

stuhayes2010: The truth is Mitch is going to help acquit Trump yet again and will welcome him with open arms in 2024.


This
 
2021-01-28 10:02:44 AM  
I asked my coworker earlier if he's "seen the tortoise" lately. He said "no what did he do"

I said "I mean the one your grandkids have as a pet I want to know how big it got"

Heh
 
2021-01-28 10:02:55 AM  
Stop trying to launder Mitch's reputation, NYT. fark him and fark your editors.
 
2021-01-28 10:03:02 AM  
Mitch is a known liar. I don't buy it.
 
2021-01-28 10:04:08 AM  
Now that's the kind of principled leadership I've come to expect from a Republican.
 
2021-01-28 10:04:26 AM  
It's the Access Hollywood tape alllllll over again - a news cycle or two of criticism amd sanctimony, followed by a month of crawfishing after everybody figures out their rank and file do not give a shiate and turn on them for criticizing Dear Leader.
 
2021-01-28 10:04:42 AM  

xanadian: You made shat your bed, GOP.  Now sleep in it.


FIFY
 
2021-01-28 10:06:42 AM  
Apparently, the GOP is OK with letting the history books decide. Assuming that their christio-fascist insurrections are repelled, long-term, their grand-kids are going to be reading about them as traitors.
 
2021-01-28 10:11:59 AM  
Does the tail steer the snake?
 
2021-01-28 10:17:03 AM  
Nazis are usually unrepentant until they get caught.
 
2021-01-28 10:17:35 AM  

IgG4: An anonymous vote in the senate and he would be like 95-5 to convict.


I can imagine the response already.

"Those dastardly demonrats stole another vote. We know this because the secret ballot had 95 votes to impeach yet every Republican Senator said they voted against it (except RINO Romney). Clearly, we need to impeach Biden, send Hillary to Guantanamo and deport Obama back to Kenya."
 
2021-01-28 10:20:40 AM  
What would you do to regain Senate Majority Mitchell?:
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2021-01-28 10:22:40 AM  
subby, *impeach* is already done; it's on the orange anus' permanent record, twice over.

"convict" is the question at this point.
 
2021-01-28 10:23:30 AM  
Seriously... before the Senate impeachment trial even begins, a vote of confidence concerning the 2020 election needs to be taken. If there are people in the Senate (or House for that matter) that still don't think that Biden is the legally elected POTUS at this point, maybe counting their votes for impeachment due to "inciting sedition of the US government" might not be in the country's best interest.

Put the ball in the Republican's court. Make them say what they are thinking, or would like their constituents to THINK they are thinking.
 
2021-01-28 10:23:34 AM  

Permanent Solutions For Permanent Problems: Because it's more important to get reelected than to do what is right. Democrazy!


I don't think Moscow Mitch is planning on another run in 2026. But if he can manage to block donnie for 2024, he'll do it.  He knows how short 'Mericans attention span is.
 
2021-01-28 10:25:46 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: The infection has taken over the host.  I can't believe there has ever been a collection of leaders as stupid as what the R party appears to be right now.


Seriously, I'd ask how they did not see this internal coup coming, but the truth is, they did. They knew. They just chose to turn a blind eye to what was coming for the sake of political expediency.

In other words, no morals, no principles, no values, no standards.

They KNEW. And now they're reaping what they've sown: a party taken over by the very worst among them, in thrall to a cult leader who himself cares for himself and only himself.

I'd cheer this disaster on if it wasn't so damn bad for the country, since millions of voters have all decided they're okay with it, too.
 
2021-01-28 10:26:43 AM  
I don't believe what he says in private.

I believe in what he does. I don't care much about his motives.
 
2021-01-28 10:26:57 AM  
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2021-01-28 10:27:24 AM  

stuhayes2010: The truth is Mitch is going to help acquit Trump yet again and will welcome him with open arms in 2024.


I honestly don't think so. Trump got a lot of people to vote, but he also basically pissed off the rest of the country. Yeah he's good at riling up the racists, but he's terribly at doing it with dog whistles. He was doing it in a way that stirred up the crazies and pissed off the donors.

That's not what Mitch or the RNC wants, regardless of how much 'support' they get. This is MItch and the RNC starting to understand that the short terms gains from a Trump presidency does not outweigh the enormous amount of fallout they have to deal with after, including having a percentage of their members in Congress being both openly defiant of them and openly carrying.

It's fear guiding them now... what was once a tool for them is now guiding their actions. Turns out what works with the voters works for themselves as well, because they are all panty-wetting cowards in the end.
 
2021-01-28 10:28:34 AM  
I hate to spoil your schadenfreude, but Mitch being cornered means we're all farked.  They are going to acquit and Trump is going to be holding rally's for the next four years, stoking the rabid base, and the threat of violence against anyone who opposes him will continue to hang over the Republican Party (you're getting that schadenboner again), guiding their every action.

The Democrats need to show serious, tangible progress in the next year or 2022 will be a bloodbath.  A desperate McConnell will be doing everything in his power to sabotage that.  We can't play his game.  NUKE the filibuster.  DO IT!  McConnell's shown again and again that he is snake and he wants to tie Schumer's hands behind his back.  He blocked Merrick Garland almost a year before the election and rushed to approve Amy Coney Barrett before Ruth Bader Ginsburg was even cold.  He fought for a super majority to approve judges under Obama and lowered the threshold to a simple majority the minute Trump was elected.  He refused to hold an impeachment trial until after Trump left office and then said the trial was moot because Trump left office.  FARK McConnell!
 
2021-01-28 10:29:14 AM  
Mitch cares about being back in power in the senate
That's it
It's really not so goddamn complicated that it takes 1000 words of psychoanalysis and "will-he / won't-he" nonsense.
 
2021-01-28 10:29:42 AM  

Befuddled: This sounds awfully self-serving for Moscow Mitch, getting credit for wanting to impeach the Orange Traitor yet not voting to impeach him.

Moscow Mitch is as big a liar as the Orange Traitor. His words are worthless. Judge him by what he does.


anyone who thought d2s was the biggest sh&tbag in washington knows absolutely nothing about mitch mcconnell
 
2021-01-28 10:31:09 AM  

stuhayes2010: The truth is Mitch is going to help acquit Trump yet again and will welcome him with open arms in 2024.


I can tell you with utmost certainty that Mitch McConnell hates Donald Trump, utterly despises him, and would like to see him disappear from the party. He used Trump the last four years to pack the courts with conservative judges, because if McConnell is anything he's a shrewd opportunist who doesn't mind abusing the system to reach his goals, but if he had his druthers Trump's political career would be over.

I'm not speculating about this, either.

McConnell will make the best of it if Trump stays influential (and sadly, he will), but no, he doesn't want the guy to remain a force in the party. He can't stand him.
 
2021-01-28 10:33:48 AM  

Geotpf: I don't believe what he says in private.

I believe in what he does. I don't care much about his motives.


Agreed. What he believes is not the same as what he does. The latter matters. The former doesn't.

He can be full-on in support of Trump disappearing from the scene -- and in fact, he is -- but if he doesn't actually ACT on that, does his view even matter?

Principles aren't actually principles if you aren't willing to stand by them and act on them.

McConnell has none. He's just an opportunist.
 
2021-01-28 10:34:25 AM  

shoegaze99: The Googles Do Nothing: The infection has taken over the host.  I can't believe there has ever been a collection of leaders as stupid as what the R party appears to be right now.

Seriously, I'd ask how they did not see this internal coup coming, but the truth is, they did. They knew. They just chose to turn a blind eye to what was coming for the sake of political expediency.

In other words, no morals, no principles, no values, no standards.

They KNEW. And now they're reaping what they've sown: a party taken over by the very worst among them, in thrall to a cult leader who himself cares for himself and only himself.

I'd cheer this disaster on if it wasn't so damn bad for the country, since millions of voters have all decided they're okay with it, too.


And now Donald Trump is an Elder Statesman for the GOP. Young political up-and-comers will invite him to luncheon so they can soak in his political wisdom and listen to his sage, thoughtful advice.
 
2021-01-28 10:35:16 AM  
Craven subby...we need a craven tag.
 
2021-01-28 10:35:26 AM  
McConnell. Can't. F*cking. Impeach. Trump.
 
2021-01-28 10:35:50 AM  

IgG4: An anonymous vote in the senate and he would be like 95-5 to convict.


Here's where I'm torn...I honestly want the Republicans to publicly vote not to convict him, so we can use that as a talking point against them for the next 20 years.  They backed a fascist takeover of the government led by Trump, and want to see America overthrown.  Hell, I'm not sure I want them to ban Trump from running for office again.  Let him start up his third party, siphon votes away from Republicans and scam the rubes out of money they'd use to give to Republicans because of mooslims and guns.

There's the push-pull of wanting what's right for America, and for Republicans to suffer politically...why not both, but if 2020 has shown me anything, it's that we don't get good things. ;)
 
2021-01-28 10:37:26 AM  

Halfabee64: I hate to spoil your schadenfreude, but Mitch being cornered means we're all farked.  They are going to acquit and Trump is going to be holding rally's for the next four years, stoking the rabid base, and the threat of violence against anyone who opposes him will continue to hang over the Republican Party (you're getting that schadenboner again), guiding their every action.

The Democrats need to show serious, tangible progress in the next year or 2022 will be a bloodbath.  A desperate McConnell will be doing everything in his power to sabotage that.  We can't play his game.  NUKE the filibuster.  DO IT!  McConnell's shown again and again that he is snake and he wants to tie Schumer's hands behind his back.  He blocked Merrick Garland almost a year before the election and rushed to approve Amy Coney Barrett before Ruth Bader Ginsburg was even cold.  He fought for a super majority to approve judges under Obama and lowered the threshold to a simple majority the minute Trump was elected.  He refused to hold an impeachment trial until after Trump left office and then said the trial was moot because Trump left office.  FARK McConnell!


I've been saying something similar.  Unfortunately I have no hope.  The current leader of the democratic party doesn't want to get rid of the filibuster and 2 senators have joined him in that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/27/us​/​politics/biden-filibuster.html

He thinks it will be divisive and he wants to work with them....

Except mitch was broadcasting that he would be obstructing everything before Bidem even officially won the election and so far held to that promise.  So I'm not sure what it would take to get the democrats willing to actually play politics and fight, but currently, looks like they're already rolling over like usual.

Republicans don't give a flying fark about rules or procedure or norms.  They trample them at every opportunity and the democrats try to uphold them to appease the Republicans.  It's a story as old as time and they're as reliable at doing just that as means testing everything.

I have set my expectations low because that's the default when it comes to democrats showing backbone, but it won't stop me from being disappointed when they follow through.
 
2021-01-28 10:40:24 AM  
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what my Trumphumping cousin thinks is actually happening. Nevermind the fact that Trump was a Democrat that was donating for Clinton back when many of these people took office.
 
2021-01-28 10:45:25 AM  

Harry Wagstaff: [Fark user image image 425x287]what my Trumphumping cousin thinks is actually happening. Nevermind the fact that Trump was a Democrat that was donating for Clinton back when many of these people took office.


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Wrong.
 
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