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2021-01-28 8:56:31 AM  
There's murder. And then there's filming a beheading to gain terrorized, political advantage over the country that helps you keep the lights on.
 
2021-01-28 8:59:58 AM  
Terrorism has to be supported. Local support is helpful, but State support is absolutely a key. Releasing these terrorists effectively gives official approval of their actions.

There are State factions in the USA who are taking notes:
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2021-01-28 9:44:02 AM  
Civis Romanus sum.
 
2021-01-28 10:22:23 AM  
We bombed the wrong 'Stan
 
2021-01-28 10:22:46 AM  
Hey, if Blackwater can get away with it...
 
2021-01-28 10:23:57 AM  
Warm up Seal Team Six.
 
2021-01-28 10:24:18 AM  
Pakistan is not our friend. I've been posting that for a very long time.

So cut off the arms sales immediately and everything else supporting the country.
 
2021-01-28 10:25:10 AM  
Wait, so youre telling me that the legal system in Pakistan is kinda fu*ked up?

Pakistan??

Since the beginning of time they have been the gold standard of jurisprudence to which all other nations aspire.
 
2021-01-28 10:26:01 AM  
Pakistan is just following the US's lead

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2021-01-28 10:27:02 AM  
Trump set a precedent when he pardoned convicted service members of their war crimes.  Trump made America less safe.
 
2021-01-28 10:27:12 AM  

dark brew: Pakistan is just following the US's lead

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Rules for thee, but not for me.
 
2021-01-28 10:27:45 AM  
i remember that; it broke my heart.  i honestly thought some Navy Seals or someone would Rambo in and save him.  but no one did.
 
2021-01-28 10:28:00 AM  

dothemath: Wait, so youre telling me that the legal system in Pakistan is kinda fu*ked up?

Pakistan??

Since the beginning of time they have been the gold standard of jurisprudence to which all other nations aspire.


Given Trump's pardoning of war criminals you may be onto something.
 
2021-01-28 10:29:44 AM  

Private_Citizen: Terrorism has to be supported. Local support is helpful, but State support is absolutely a key. Releasing these terrorists effectively gives official approval of their actions.

There are State factions in the USA who are taking notes:
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2021-01-28 10:29:58 AM  

Glorious Golden Ass: Trump set a precedent when he pardoned convicted service members of their war crimes.  Trump made America less safe.


Thank you.  I was going to mention that.

Sucks when other countries pull the same shiat, doesn't it?
 
2021-01-28 10:30:50 AM  
I'm just glad that, as an American, I live in a country where police cannot engage in wanton violence with impunity.
 
2021-01-28 10:32:19 AM  
This is what a Theologic justice system looks like.
 
2021-01-28 10:32:42 AM  
"The four men, who are still in detention following the court's ruling, have been placed on the country's exit control list, barring them from leaving the country, according to Pakistan's interior ministry."

Why would they want to leave?
 
2021-01-28 10:33:08 AM  
As a Muslim (and if you look at my profile, yes, a Goth Muslim; I converted in March 2003 and have been struggling with that and the Jewish faith I grew up with ever since), this is a major travesty of justice. All four of them should of been executed for Daniel Pearl's murder.

/Qu'ran chapter 5, verse 32 (Clear Qu'ran translation): That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life-unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land-it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.
 
2021-01-28 10:33:24 AM  
Defund the Pakistani police.

Olive-skinned Lives Matter!
 
2021-01-28 10:35:22 AM  
Yeah you never want to many right wing religious weirdos on your high court.

*looks at camera*
 
2021-01-28 10:35:38 AM  
They should have been sentenced to an even worse punishment - watching cricket.
 
2021-01-28 10:36:14 AM  
So what they are saying is that they were Pakistani government officials acting in an official capacity for the Pakistani government, to murder a citizen of the world's most powerful government, with the world's most powerful military, and the world's most powerful ability to economically sanction.  May not have thought that one through fellows.
 
2021-01-28 10:37:31 AM  
This is revenge for the Blackwater mercenaries Trump freed.  A tit-for-tat from the Muslim world.

Thanks, Trump.  Great farking job.
 
2021-01-28 10:39:36 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Yeah you never want to many right wing religious weirdos on your high court.

*looks at camera*


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2021-01-28 10:40:32 AM  

wiredroach: Warm up Seal Team Six.


Is there an 8 year old American girl in need of a corrupted blood honor killing?
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2021-01-28 10:42:42 AM  

dark brew: Pakistan is just following the US's lead

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Man, that is sooo accurate.
Karma ain't nothing to play with.
 
2021-01-28 10:44:04 AM  
Outrageous.

Unfortunately the world will respond with a collective shrug to the U.S.'s protests over this after Trump pardoned those Blackwater war criminals who massacred innoncent civilians in Iraq.

Trump did many horrible things during his presidency but that was one of the worst.
 
2021-01-28 10:50:50 AM  

dothemath: Wait, so youre telling me that the legal system in Pakistan is kinda fu*ked up?

Pakistan??

Since the beginning of time they have been the gold standard of jurisprudence to which all other nations aspire.


Trump let Blackwater murderers go free. USA, just as shiat.
 
2021-01-28 11:03:45 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: As a Muslim (and if you look at my profile, yes, a Goth Muslim; I converted in March 2003 and have been struggling with that and the Jewish faith I grew up with ever since), this is a major travesty of justice. All four of them should of been executed for Daniel Pearl's murder.

/Qu'ran chapter 5, verse 32 (Clear Qu'ran translation): That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life-unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land-it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.


Who gets to define "mischief"?
 
2021-01-28 11:04:15 AM  

Advernaut: USA, just as shiat.


So youll be moving to Karachi when exactly?
 
2021-01-28 11:18:19 AM  

spacechecker: DarkSoulNoHope: As a Muslim (and if you look at my profile, yes, a Goth Muslim; I converted in March 2003 and have been struggling with that and the Jewish faith I grew up with ever since), this is a major travesty of justice. All four of them should of been executed for Daniel Pearl's murder.

/Qu'ran chapter 5, verse 32 (Clear Qu'ran translation): That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life-unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land-it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.

Who gets to define "mischief"?


That would be the religious judges who order executions of people for things such as adultery, homosexuality, witchcraft, abandoning the Islamic faith, etc.

Despite my personal beliefs, each country under Islamic law sets the rules for their own government's judicial system; which is unfortunately why the Pakistan Supreme Court would rule this way. They are supposedly giving their reasoning behind the acquittal soon, but it better be "We have evidence they didn't do it" otherwise I am going to start demanding we stop funding to Pakistan.
 
2021-01-28 11:21:20 AM  

Advernaut: USA, just as shiat.


US exceptionalism, ladies and gentlemen!
 
2021-01-28 11:24:40 AM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: They should have been sentenced to an even worse punishment - watchingexplaining cricket.to a typical football fan...and not being able to stop until the fan understands all the rules/nuances


FTFY
 
2021-01-28 11:27:07 AM  

winedrinkingman: So what they are saying is that they were Pakistani government officials acting in an official capacity for the Pakistani government, to murder a citizen of the world's most powerful government, with the world's most powerful military, and the world's most powerful ability to economically sanction.  May not have thought that one through fellows.


sadly, they have.
 
2021-01-28 11:32:50 AM  

Private_Citizen: Terrorism has to be supported. Local support is helpful, but State support is absolutely a key. Releasing these terrorists effectively gives official approval of their actions.

There are State factions in the USA who are taking notes:
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Yup, they just showed the actions are official.  That effectively makes it an act of war.  How about a few Tomahawks?
 
2021-01-28 11:35:49 AM  

Glorious Golden Ass: Trump set a precedent when he pardoned convicted service members of their war crimes.  Trump made America less safe.


Yep. It looks like this is a "Fark You" to the US after Trump's spree of pardoning war criminals.
 
2021-01-28 11:40:35 AM  

spacechecker: DarkSoulNoHope: As a Muslim (and if you look at my profile, yes, a Goth Muslim; I converted in March 2003 and have been struggling with that and the Jewish faith I grew up with ever since), this is a major travesty of justice. All four of them should of been executed for Daniel Pearl's murder.

/Qu'ran chapter 5, verse 32 (Clear Qu'ran translation): That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life-unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land-it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.

Who gets to define "mischief"?


The short answer is "it depends on who you ask".  Corruption, or fasād, is used (and has been used historically) to mean a large variety of different things, from murder to bribery and embezzlement to treason against the ruler.  As with most things in Islam, if you ask two scholars, you'll get three answers.

In Pakistan specifically, the Council of Islamic Ideology has said,

"Hirāba [a term used for crimes committed with violence, like piracy and highway robbery] and fasād fil ard [spreading corruption in the land] should not be confined to dacoity [a specific regional term for gang robbery] only but must be extended to other crimes such as terrorism, murder and rape. The criminals involved in such cases should be awarded the punishment as Prescribed in the relevant verses (5:32-33) regarding Hirāba."
 
2021-01-28 11:41:53 AM  
• People saying the US pardoned the Blackwater mercs who opened up on the crowd in Nisour Square, killing 17 and injuring 20, have a point. But, the case can be made that the mercs panicked and were in a combat situation, and were not torturing and killing a prisoner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisour_S​quare_massacre#Incident

• And there's been plenty of "collateral damage" resulting in dead Afghan and Iraqi civilians.

• HOWEVER... if the US ever caught someone maliciously killing civilians, that person would be made to pay a severe price. Look at that gentleman who massacred the Afghan civilians - he's in Leavenworth for the rest of his life.

• A picture of the SEAL who killed the injured combatant was posted.

• Pearl was not a combatant. He was a kidnapped civilian who was beheaded on video. This point should not be lost.
 
2021-01-28 11:48:47 AM  

JungleBoogie: • People saying the US pardoned the Blackwater mercs who opened up on the crowd in Nisour Square, killing 17 and injuring 20, have a point. But, the case can be made that the mercs panicked and were in a combat situation, and were not torturing and killing a prisoner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisour_S​quare_massacre#Incident

• And there's been plenty of "collateral damage" resulting in dead Afghan and Iraqi civilians.

• HOWEVER... if the US ever caught someone maliciously killing civilians, that person would be made to pay a severe price. Look at that gentleman who massacred the Afghan civilians - he's in Leavenworth for the rest of his life.

• A picture of the SEAL who killed the injured combatant was posted.

• Pearl was not a combatant. He was a kidnapped civilian who was beheaded on video. This point should not be lost.


Allen West literally tortured an Iraqi policeman who was on his own side, and is now the head of the GOP in Texas.
 
2021-01-28 11:55:34 AM  
I'm not going lose my head over this.
/crawls back under my rock
 
2021-01-28 12:03:25 PM  
Biden will apologize to the 4 for being put in prison and then offer them citizenship in the US to demonstrate how progressive he is.
 
2021-01-28 12:07:51 PM  
Not too different from police clearing themselves of shooting unarmed and/or handcuffed black people.
 
2021-01-28 12:08:33 PM  

dothemath: Wait, so youre telling me that the legal system in Pakistan is kinda fu*ked up?

Pakistan??

Since the beginning of time they have been the gold standard of jurisprudence to which all other nations aspire.


Name one person living in a western country in living memory who said "our legal system should be more like Pakistan's"
 
2021-01-28 12:10:06 PM  

A'isha P.: JungleBoogie: • People saying the US pardoned the Blackwater mercs who opened up on the crowd in Nisour Square, killing 17 and injuring 20, have a point. But, the case can be made that the mercs panicked and were in a combat situation, and were not torturing and killing a prisoner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisour_S​quare_massacre#Incident

• And there's been plenty of "collateral damage" resulting in dead Afghan and Iraqi civilians.

• HOWEVER... if the US ever caught someone maliciously killing civilians, that person would be made to pay a severe price. Look at that gentleman who massacred the Afghan civilians - he's in Leavenworth for the rest of his life.

• A picture of the SEAL who killed the injured combatant was posted.

• Pearl was not a combatant. He was a kidnapped civilian who was beheaded on video. This point should not be lost.

Allen West literally tortured an Iraqi policeman who was on his own side, and is now the head of the GOP in Texas.


If the US wants to regain its standing in the world, we would round up the pardoned Blackwater war criminals and assholes like Allen West and then put them on a one-way flight to Iraq.
 
2021-01-28 12:10:47 PM  

Wolf892: Biden will apologize to the 4 for being put in prison and then offer them citizenship in the US to demonstrate how progressive he is.


He'll do that after you apologize for having such a punchable face.
 
2021-01-28 12:17:57 PM  

cryptozoophiliac: Wolf892: Biden will apologize to the 4 for being put in prison and then offer them citizenship in the US to demonstrate how progressive he is.

He'll do that after you apologize for having such a punchable face.


I won't apologize for having resting punchy face!
 
2021-01-28 12:21:16 PM  

Harry Wagstaff: We bombed the wrong 'Stan


Yup. Our "allies" were Saudi Arabia (where most of the hijackers came from, and a major backer of the Taliban and fundamentalist terrorism in general) and Pakistan (another major backer of the Taliban and major state sponsor of terrorism). We also made enemies of Iran, which was fighting the Taliban.

Gee, I wonder why we lost in Afghanistan? Why decades of blood came to nothing?
 
2021-01-28 12:22:16 PM  
I'm ok with this. Israel will take care of business.
 
2021-01-28 1:18:21 PM  

adamatari: Harry Wagstaff: We bombed the wrong 'Stan

Yup. Our "allies" were Saudi Arabia (where most of the hijackers came from, and a major backer of the Taliban and fundamentalist terrorism in general) and Pakistan (another major backer of the Taliban and major state sponsor of terrorism). We also made enemies of Iran, which was fighting the Taliban.

Gee, I wonder why we lost in Afghanistan? Why decades of blood came to nothing?


Iran, good guy or best guy?
 
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