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2021-01-27 6:57:44 PM  
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I hope they still have that bug where you can trick the machine into a counter-offer of negative ten thousand gold pieces.  I got mad rich off that.
 
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2021-01-27 7:34:49 PM  
How about you charge a fair price, and I'll pay a fair price -- or I just walk away...
 
2021-01-27 10:31:45 PM  

mgh: How about you charge a fair price, and I'll pay a fair price -- or I just walk away...


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2021-01-27 10:35:01 PM  
Never give a bot your money
 
2021-01-27 11:00:17 PM  

mgh: How about you charge a fair price, and I'll pay a fair price -- or I just walk away...


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2021-01-28 12:25:34 AM  

mgh: How about you charge a fair price, and I'll pay a fair price -- or I just walk away...


Used to work for a guy that had set prices, for everything - he was entirely serious about that.  Mail and package transport - he'd warn people that he wasn't messing around, and continued attempts to haggle would result in him hanging up the phone.  There were a fair heap of very surprised people that got hung up on.  Even more that tried to call back and got a secretary telling them that they were not interested in their business.

/his prices were as low as they could rationally go with the profit margin he wanted to have
//he had spreadsheets and shiat he'd happily give people copies of
///he really didn't need to GAF - he had about as much business as he could handle - one of the few rad/bio hazard certed transport people that wasn't completely unreasonable price-wise at the time (in that area.)
 
2021-01-28 12:53:01 AM  
Heh. I was one of the folks that wrote docs for some of that tech. I'd love to claim that I was getting a kick, but instead I'm regularly plagued by existential horror at how those technologies have been used in the last couple of years, and the disclaimers added to some of those docs in a desperate CYA still depress me...

On June 11, 2020, Microsoft announced that it will not sell facial recognition technology to police departments in the United States until strong regulation, grounded in human rights, has been enacted. As such, customers may not use facial recognition features or features included in Azure Services, such as Face or Video Indexer, if a customer is, or is allowing use of such services by or for, a police department in the United States.
 
2021-01-28 1:05:57 AM  
Emotion analysis driven by facial recognition, sentiment analysis drive by text analytics, and a reasonable negotiation model? Sounds great if you're haggling about car prices.

If you've signed an arbitration agreement with your employer and you're sexually harassed? It's gonna get weird.
 
2021-01-28 1:37:49 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: mgh: How about you charge a fair price, and I'll pay a fair price -- or I just walk away...

Used to work for a guy that had set prices, for everything - he was entirely serious about that.  Mail and package transport - he'd warn people that he wasn't messing around, and continued attempts to haggle would result in him hanging up the phone.  There were a fair heap of very surprised people that got hung up on.  Even more that tried to call back and got a secretary telling them that they were not interested in their business.

/his prices were as low as they could rationally go with the profit margin he wanted to have
//he had spreadsheets and shiat he'd happily give people copies of
///he really didn't need to GAF - he had about as much business as he could handle - one of the few rad/bio hazard certed transport people that wasn't completely unreasonable price-wise at the time (in that area.)


God I wish I had business owners around here like that... I'd ENJOY working for them just to tell nickle and dimers to fark off.
 
2021-01-28 1:39:50 AM  

puffy999: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: mgh: How about you charge a fair price, and I'll pay a fair price -- or I just walk away...

Used to work for a guy that had set prices, for everything - he was entirely serious about that.  Mail and package transport - he'd warn people that he wasn't messing around, and continued attempts to haggle would result in him hanging up the phone.  There were a fair heap of very surprised people that got hung up on.  Even more that tried to call back and got a secretary telling them that they were not interested in their business.

/his prices were as low as they could rationally go with the profit margin he wanted to have
//he had spreadsheets and shiat he'd happily give people copies of
///he really didn't need to GAF - he had about as much business as he could handle - one of the few rad/bio hazard certed transport people that wasn't completely unreasonable price-wise at the time (in that area.)

God I wish I had business owners around here like that... I'd ENJOY working for them just to tell nickle and dimers to fark off.


Honestly he only got away with it due to the combination of decent pricing and low ability/sketchy bastards otherwise doing the same thing in that area.  It's not terribly common to have enough potential customers that you can be pretty stroppy with them right up front.
 
2021-01-28 2:13:23 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: puffy999: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: mgh: How about you charge a fair price, and I'll pay a fair price -- or I just walk away...

Used to work for a guy that had set prices, for everything - he was entirely serious about that.  Mail and package transport - he'd warn people that he wasn't messing around, and continued attempts to haggle would result in him hanging up the phone.  There were a fair heap of very surprised people that got hung up on.  Even more that tried to call back and got a secretary telling them that they were not interested in their business.

/his prices were as low as they could rationally go with the profit margin he wanted to have
//he had spreadsheets and shiat he'd happily give people copies of
///he really didn't need to GAF - he had about as much business as he could handle - one of the few rad/bio hazard certed transport people that wasn't completely unreasonable price-wise at the time (in that area.)

God I wish I had business owners around here like that... I'd ENJOY working for them just to tell nickle and dimers to fark off.

Honestly he only got away with it due to the combination of decent pricing and low ability/sketchy bastards otherwise doing the same thing in that area.  It's not terribly common to have enough potential customers that you can be pretty stroppy with them right up front.


Oh I can see several business genres around here that could get away with it.

Most of them are run by second or third generation owners who have meth habits. Including one of the local trucking companies.

They have enough business to be choosey. But they'd rather have customers bid for contracts. "Making enough" isn't enough....

Sadly, around here, that includes home health care. More clients than caretakers available, the caretakers get paid 1/5th what their contractor is paid...
 
2021-01-28 2:23:03 AM  

puffy999: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: puffy999: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: mgh: How about you charge a fair price, and I'll pay a fair price -- or I just walk away...

Used to work for a guy that had set prices, for everything - he was entirely serious about that.  Mail and package transport - he'd warn people that he wasn't messing around, and continued attempts to haggle would result in him hanging up the phone.  There were a fair heap of very surprised people that got hung up on.  Even more that tried to call back and got a secretary telling them that they were not interested in their business.

/his prices were as low as they could rationally go with the profit margin he wanted to have
//he had spreadsheets and shiat he'd happily give people copies of
///he really didn't need to GAF - he had about as much business as he could handle - one of the few rad/bio hazard certed transport people that wasn't completely unreasonable price-wise at the time (in that area.)

God I wish I had business owners around here like that... I'd ENJOY working for them just to tell nickle and dimers to fark off.

Honestly he only got away with it due to the combination of decent pricing and low ability/sketchy bastards otherwise doing the same thing in that area.  It's not terribly common to have enough potential customers that you can be pretty stroppy with them right up front.

Oh I can see several business genres around here that could get away with it.

Most of them are run by second or third generation owners who have meth habits. Including one of the local trucking companies.

They have enough business to be choosey. But they'd rather have customers bid for contracts. "Making enough" isn't enough....

Sadly, around here, that includes home health care. More clients than caretakers available, the caretakers get paid 1/5th what their contractor is paid...


Yeah... the hard part with that lot is attempted serious competition vis a vis meth heads - it's liable to escalate quickly
 
2021-01-28 8:41:57 AM  

FormlessOne: Heh. I was one of the folks that wrote docs for some of that tech. I'd love to claim that I was getting a kick, but instead I'm regularly plagued by existential horror at how those technologies have been used in the last couple of years, and the disclaimers added to some of those docs in a desperate CYA still depress me...

On June 11, 2020, Microsoft announced that it will not sell facial recognition technology to police departments in the United States until strong regulation, grounded in human rights, has been enacted. As such, customers may not use facial recognition features or features included in Azure Services, such as Face or Video Indexer, if a customer is, or is allowing use of such services by or for, a police department in the United States.


The future is global unconscious nonconsentual democracy. Don't be afraid.
 
2021-01-28 1:03:31 PM  

Daer21: FormlessOne: Heh. I was one of the folks that wrote docs for some of that tech. I'd love to claim that I was getting a kick, but instead I'm regularly plagued by existential horror at how those technologies have been used in the last couple of years, and the disclaimers added to some of those docs in a desperate CYA still depress me...

On June 11, 2020, Microsoft announced that it will not sell facial recognition technology to police departments in the United States until strong regulation, grounded in human rights, has been enacted. As such, customers may not use facial recognition features or features included in Azure Services, such as Face or Video Indexer, if a customer is, or is allowing use of such services by or for, a police department in the United States.

The future is global unconscious nonconsentual democracy. Don't be afraid.


I'm not afraid of a possible future. I'm afraid I'm helping to hasten it in a vain attempt to stay fed & make it to retirement.
 
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