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2021-01-27 1:21:11 PM  
Cheerleading is toxic?

No way.

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2021-01-27 2:59:36 PM  
My 8th grade science teacher was a Derrick Doll (Oilers) in the early 80s.  I remember her telling us it was crazy but in a nice "8th grade" sort of way.  She was *very* good looking.  Interestingly, she was one of the 100 (or so) initially selected in the Teacher in Space program for the Challenger launch.
 
2021-01-27 3:53:07 PM  
I think I've seen this documentary...
 
2021-01-27 3:58:59 PM  
I think it's equally sad that so many women think they'll be taken seriously in that role.
 
2021-01-27 4:02:30 PM  

Calypsocookie: Cheerleading is toxic?

No way.

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I wonder if Arnold knew what his colleague was doing behind him.
 
2021-01-27 4:04:10 PM  
Washington took it's cheerleaders out of the country, then held on to their passports for "safekeeping" .....  if it's good enough for 3rd world slavery, it's good enough for Dan Snyder!
 
2021-01-27 4:09:14 PM  
We watch the Buffalo "Jills" dance on the field in pink to raise awareness for breast cancer

"Hmm... there's a thing called 'breast cancer,' eh?  I've never heard of it before."

/any charity focusing on "awareness" is just a grift.
 
2021-01-27 4:13:58 PM  
Class mate of mine did this for years.
She had a great time.
 
2021-01-27 4:14:13 PM  
It's such an odd and sexist occupation to begin with.

They should just get rid of cheerleaders entirely. Like the fans don't know how to enjoy a football game.
 
2021-01-27 4:15:59 PM  
 If this ends up being too big a pain in the ass the nfl can just say, ok, no cheerleaders. Their decrease in revenue the following year would not even be measurable. And I say that thinking these women are underpaid. And I'd feel the same if the squad were 100% dudes. The nfl does not care about cheerleaders because they know that their ratings would decrease NONE if the cheerleaders disappeared overnight. The nfl is evil, but they are not stupid. I think it would be nice if they paid them more though- they shouldn't be so cheap and it's an easy PR win for them at very low cost.
 
2021-01-27 4:32:29 PM  
Dangerous?  No (I'm talking about NFL cheerleaders here.  Regular cheerleading is very dangerous).  Severely and insanely underpaid?  Yes.
 
2021-01-27 4:35:41 PM  
TTIUWOP
 
2021-01-27 4:39:06 PM  
My oldest Daughter has been a cheerleader since she was 8 or 9, she is a Senior in College now.   She was a part of the Jr NFL Cheerleaders for a few years, and we have known a few ladies that have been Cheerleaders with the local NFL Team.

The team here pays crap as indicated.  They do a calendar shoot in the Winter, which they use as there training camp.  So a paid trip to Bali or the Jamaica.  They are required to "volunteer" for the non-profit of the team and have certain non-game events that are required, like the Jr Cheerleader practices.

The one place they could make bank was a private events, ie. Corp meetings, Auto Shows, promo for the local Harley Davidson Dealership.    But we have heard those can be rough on the girls, drunks and entitled folks trying to get fresh.  They are required to pay for security, from the team, and pay them out of the fee's.

Most we know have done it as a pride thing.  So they can say "I was a professional Cheerleader".   Daughter was thinking about trying out, but is going into Nursing and doesnt think it is worth it.  She may coach at the HS or College level.
 
2021-01-27 4:46:17 PM  
Didn't the Chick-Ago team in the USFL get in trouble for calling their cheerleaders "The Bruisables"?
 
2021-01-27 4:51:27 PM  
NFL cheerleaders are superfluous and a relic of a bygone era. They get paid like shiat, they get treated like shiat, and for what? The list of infractions they can be booted from the squad for are asinine, and that includes everything from speaking to the players to wearing the wrong shade of nail polish during public appearances. God forbid they gain a pound or two.

If you want to see half-naked women shaking their tits for three hours, there are cheaper ways to accomplish that than spending hundreds of dollars on football tickets. I think teams should do what the Green Bay Packers do and have high school/college kids cheer (actual cheerleading, not the glorified strip club dancing these gals do now) during games.
 
2021-01-27 4:55:17 PM  

Coco LaFemme: NFL cheerleaders are superfluous and a relic of a bygone era. They get paid like shiat, they get treated like shiat, and for what? The list of infractions they can be booted from the squad for are asinine, and that includes everything from speaking to the players to wearing the wrong shade of nail polish during public appearances. God forbid they gain a pound or two.

If you want to see half-naked women shaking their tits for three hours, there are cheaper ways to accomplish that than spending hundreds of dollars on football tickets. I think teams should do what the Green Bay Packers do and have high school/college kids cheer (actual cheerleading, not the glorified strip club dancing these gals do now) during games.


Chiefs have a male cheerleader this year...    https://www.chiefs.com/cheerleaders​/ro​ster/dominic
 
2021-01-27 4:58:31 PM  
A professional cheerleader in the NFL should feel lucky just to dance on the sidelines-she's reminded of that, and of her own replaceability, all the time.

The basic foundation of an abusive relationship.
 
2021-01-27 5:11:23 PM  

tobcc: Coco LaFemme: NFL cheerleaders are superfluous and a relic of a bygone era. They get paid like shiat, they get treated like shiat, and for what? The list of infractions they can be booted from the squad for are asinine, and that includes everything from speaking to the players to wearing the wrong shade of nail polish during public appearances. God forbid they gain a pound or two.

If you want to see half-naked women shaking their tits for three hours, there are cheaper ways to accomplish that than spending hundreds of dollars on football tickets. I think teams should do what the Green Bay Packers do and have high school/college kids cheer (actual cheerleading, not the glorified strip club dancing these gals do now) during games.

Chiefs have a male cheerleader this year...    https://www.chiefs.com/cheerleaders/​roster/dominic


Demographically speaking, I know there isn't as big of a corresponding market for it but I've wondered for a few years now why there weren't at least some male cheerleaders. Sure, the whole thing is a bit awkward to begin with but if they're going to do it at all, the world wouldn't end if the awkwardness were to be spread around. That high-minded American institution, The Price is Right gave something for the women to ogle and life kept on going.
 
2021-01-27 5:55:42 PM  

Konowalchuk22: Washington took it's cheerleaders out of the country, then held on to their passports for "safekeeping" .....  if it's good enough for 3rd world slavery, it's good enough for Dan Snyder!


I heard a description of that event on the radio and it was MUCH worse than that. Basically forced prostitution, but without like actually getting paid
 
2021-01-27 6:05:59 PM  

Calypsocookie: Cheerleading is toxic?

No way.

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Who's the dude rubbing one out behind Arnie?
 
2021-01-27 6:20:52 PM  
You could cut the compensation in half and there would still be plenty of girls who would take the gig in a heartbeat.  It's not about the money.
 
2021-01-27 7:08:29 PM  
Olden days. Cheerleader thread. *Sigh*
 
2021-01-27 8:23:06 PM  
It's a part time side job.  There are probably lots of reasons these women do it, like any side job you might do.  If it doesn't pay enough or is too time consuming, don't do it.  That's it.   No one is forcing them to do it.
 
2021-01-27 8:39:48 PM  

Lance Russell's Nose: You could cut the compensation in half and there would still be plenty of girls who would take the gig in a heartbeat.  It's not about the money.


Apparently not about the money, but WTF is it about? Why would anyone want the job in the first place?
 
2021-01-27 9:12:30 PM  

JohnBigBootay: If this ends up being too big a pain in the ass the nfl can just say, ok, no cheerleaders. Their decrease in revenue the following year would not even be measurable. And I say that thinking these women are underpaid. And I'd feel the same if the squad were 100% dudes. The nfl does not care about cheerleaders because they know that their ratings would decrease NONE if the cheerleaders disappeared overnight. The nfl is evil, but they are not stupid. I think it would be nice if they paid them more though- they shouldn't be so cheap and it's an easy PR win for them at very low cost.


You do underestimate the value cheerleaders provide in off-site and sponsor events.

It's like having a couple dozen mascots. You can charge hundreds of dollars for them to do appearances and pay them very little and you make extra money.

Granted, at the NFL level, it's not THAT much money, comparatively, but players and coaches usually have contracts that limit their bullsh*t gladhanding (phrasing, I know) of sponsors; cheerleaders don't.
 
2021-01-27 9:17:40 PM  

IAmRight: JohnBigBootay: If this ends up being too big a pain in the ass the nfl can just say, ok, no cheerleaders. Their decrease in revenue the following year would not even be measurable. And I say that thinking these women are underpaid. And I'd feel the same if the squad were 100% dudes. The nfl does not care about cheerleaders because they know that their ratings would decrease NONE if the cheerleaders disappeared overnight. The nfl is evil, but they are not stupid. I think it would be nice if they paid them more though- they shouldn't be so cheap and it's an easy PR win for them at very low cost.

You do underestimate the value cheerleaders provide in off-site and sponsor events.

It's like having a couple dozen mascots. You can charge hundreds of dollars for them to do appearances and pay them very little and you make extra money.

Granted, at the NFL level, it's not THAT much money, comparatively, but players and coaches usually have contracts that limit their bullsh*t gladhanding (phrasing, I know) of sponsors; cheerleaders don't.


I suppose NFL teams would charge thousands, not hundreds (I only worked in the small time, the AFL).

Anyway, there are lots of women that try out for even that, where the players don't have money, the crowds are smaller, the pay is...well, apparently about the same.

/I think they should get paid more and that so many people are still willing to do it is kind of an indictment on America
//that said, the adrenaline rush you get from performing in front of thousands of people cheering is pretty close to unmatchable, so there's that, too
 
2021-01-27 10:11:09 PM  
"Who wants to be a Fire Truck?"
 
2021-01-27 10:31:31 PM  

Ishkur: It's such an odd and sexist occupation to begin with.

They should just get rid of cheerleaders entirely. Like the fans don't know how to enjoy a football game.


It's not like people are lacking for entertainment during halftime and breaks anymore. We have smartphones and giant video screens. High school is one thing, but it definitely feels outdated.
 
2021-01-27 10:40:59 PM  
Put some clothes on.
 
2021-01-27 11:01:01 PM  
I used to shoot NFL on the sidelines. Those Raiderettes are some good looking women. At least when they were in L.A.
 
2021-01-27 11:11:32 PM  
This thread disappoints
 
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