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2021-01-27 8:38:04 AM  
According to court documents, Thomas Cesiro, 66 of Rutland thought he was talking to a 12-year-old girl, and her 39-year-old mother in New York.

I don't understand how adding a supposedly willing mother into the mix makes this a more believable scenario for the target. Wouldn't this just raise red flags more quickly among those the police are hunting?
 
2021-01-27 9:11:32 AM  

Pocket Ninja: According to court documents, Thomas Cesiro, 66 of Rutland thought he was talking to a 12-year-old girl, and her 39-year-old mother in New York.

I don't understand how adding a supposedly willing mother into the mix makes this a more believable scenario for the target. Wouldn't this just raise red flags more quickly among those the police are hunting?


Pfft, maybe your mom.
 
2021-01-27 9:12:18 AM  
My nephew's band teacher got busted for trying to solicit a teen girl online. Turned out to be a cop. Dude got busted on a Friday, my nephew is creeped out that the teacher spent all Thursday class constantly on his phone. Timeline does seem to suggest he was setting up his statutory rape date in a room full of middle schoolers. I can only imagine the girls in class (and their parents) are probably even more creeped out than my sister and her kiddo.
 
2021-01-27 9:17:18 AM  

kbronsito: My nephew's band teacher got busted for trying to solicit a teen girl online. Turned out to be a cop. Dude got busted on a Friday, my nephew is creeped out that the teacher spent all Thursday class constantly on his phone. Timeline does seem to suggest he was setting up his statutory rape date in a room full of middle schoolers. I can only imagine the girls in class (and their parents) are probably even more creeped out than my sister and her kiddo.


I smell an easy A for some girl.

//I'll go sit over there.
 
2021-01-27 9:31:58 AM  
The feds say he is a former trooper with Vermont State Police, and now works from home as a sales marketing manager.

Ah, yes, that very real job of Sales Marketing Manager...which is all about sales marketing.
 
2021-01-27 9:36:34 AM  
Even though the "men are men and women are men on the Internet" are largely discredited, the cop (or Chris Hansen) posing as a 12-year-old still applies.

Pocket Ninja:
I don't understand how adding a supposedly willing mother into the mix makes this a more believable scenario for the target. Wouldn't this just raise red flags more quickly among those the police are hunting?

Everywhere I hear, it's that parents should monitor or restrict what their kids look at on the Internet. But if this is any indication, sex and child trafficking is still a huge problem. Which may explain why the "mom" was also included.
 
2021-01-27 9:40:20 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I don't understand how adding a supposedly willing mother into the mix makes this a more believable scenario for the target. Wouldn't this just raise red flags more quickly among those the police are hunting?


Sometimes in cases like this the parents are the ones pimping out the kids. Usually for money to buy drugs or whatever.  It also makes the scenario a bit more easy to swallow because if "mom or dad" are in on it, there's less fear of getting in trouble with the parents if when a meeting takes place.

It's a sick world we live in.
 
2021-01-27 9:42:41 AM  
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2021-01-27 9:42:58 AM  
How are people still falling for this sh*t?  Since like the 90s, if you're talking to an underage girl, it's always a cop.  And besides, how hard is it to not talk to underage kids?
 
2021-01-27 9:43:03 AM  
VSP?

Maybe I'll go out of network for my next pair of glasses if this is the sort of creepy stuff they do.
 
2021-01-27 9:43:13 AM  
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2021-01-27 9:43:20 AM  
😂 WTF.
To get caught doing THIS. Means at some point in the past this person did this to a real child. Do we dig that up? Because we should.

/
I don't get how people don't get it. A real kid and you would not happen. And if it did. It would take a long time.
//
Or not?
I don't get it.
I can't even get age appropriate people to talk to me. And that's on a site specifically for talking to people. WTF?
///
clearly everybody lives in a separate reality.
 
2021-01-27 9:44:02 AM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: [i.pinimg.com image 850x850]


Dress codes are bullshiat
 
2021-01-27 9:44:29 AM  

gar1013: VSP?

Maybe I'll go out of network for my next pair of glasses if this is the sort of creepy stuff they do.


All joking aside, Costco vision is out-of-network but still cheaper than any of the Luxottica stores, and you don't need a Costco membership.

/the more you know
 
2021-01-27 9:45:16 AM  

Pocket Ninja: According to court documents, Thomas Cesiro, 66 of Rutland thought he was talking to a 12-year-old girl, and her 39-year-old mother in New York.

I don't understand how adding a supposedly willing mother into the mix makes this a more believable scenario for the target. Wouldn't this just raise red flags more quickly among those the police are hunting?


when you're preying on children for sex, it's very important to make sure to get their parent's permission.

It's good manners, also it adds that extra layer of culpability. Mom's can't narc on the John without incriminating herself.
 
2021-01-27 9:45:19 AM  

steklo: Pocket Ninja: I don't understand how adding a supposedly willing mother into the mix makes this a more believable scenario for the target. Wouldn't this just raise red flags more quickly among those the police are hunting?

Sometimes in cases like this the parents are the ones pimping out the kids. Usually for money to buy drugs or whatever.  It also makes the scenario a bit more easy to swallow because if "mom or dad" are in on it, there's less fear of getting in trouble with the parents if when a meeting takes place.

It's a sick world we live in.


it used to be "baby needs a new pair of shoes". Now it's "mommy needs a new pair of Manolo Blanco's."
 
2021-01-27 9:46:35 AM  
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2021-01-27 9:46:49 AM  

Schmerd1948: Now it's "mommy needs a new pair of Manolo Blanco's."


I thought it was "mommy needs cash to get some meth, crack, smack", etc...
 
2021-01-27 9:47:39 AM  

aungen: [Fark user image 768x456]


That's just godd*mn hilarious.  Bravo!
 
2021-01-27 9:48:19 AM  
Go into a chat room and try to pass yourself off as an 18yo woman. Really quick you get 'are you 18, it's ok if not' texted at you.  That was an instructive experiment one evening. Lots of creeps out there.
 
2021-01-27 9:48:50 AM  

Tomahawk513: gar1013: VSP?

Maybe I'll go out of network for my next pair of glasses if this is the sort of creepy stuff they do.

All joking aside, Costco vision is out-of-network but still cheaper than any of the Luxottica stores, and you don't need a Costco membership.

/the more you know


Only issue with them is not having the frames I want.

Last pair of prescription sunglasses I went out of network - bought the frames at Sunglasses hut but got the lenses through the local medical center. Lenses definitely seem to be better quality for my dollar than LensCrafters.

This time around, I may try an independent shop just because looking at my vision insurance, it's great if you want the "Kia" level when it comes to glasses, but once you make everything the way you actually want it, you're still spending hundreds.
 
2021-01-27 9:50:05 AM  

Pocket Ninja: According to court documents, Thomas Cesiro, 66 of Rutland thought he was talking to a 12-year-old girl, and her 39-year-old mother in New York.

I don't understand how adding a supposedly willing mother into the mix makes this a more believable scenario for the target. Wouldn't this just raise red flags more quickly among those the police are hunting?


Maybe add a stepsister?
 
2021-01-27 9:50:38 AM  
At first I was shocked that a cop (even a former cop) was going to face consequences for their actions. Then I remembered that nobody likes pedophiles.
 
2021-01-27 9:51:15 AM  

Pocket Ninja: According to court documents, Thomas Cesiro, 66 of Rutland thought he was talking to a 12-year-old girl, and her 39-year-old mother in New York.

I don't understand how adding a supposedly willing mother into the mix makes this a more believable scenario for the target. Wouldn't this just raise red flags more quickly among those the police are hunting?


Think of how often you hear of a child severely beaten and possibly killed by the mother's boyfriend.

You can't tell me that all those women were completely unaware of what those monsters were capable of, and yet they took the path of least resistance.
 
2021-01-27 9:51:24 AM  
"Cesiro is now on home confinement. If convicted, he faces 10 years to life in prison."

LOL, the author thinks that cops can be convicted of crimes.
 
2021-01-27 9:51:55 AM  
"It was a reverse sting operation, honest!"
 
2021-01-27 9:52:54 AM  
Were they both posing as teens and caught each other?
"Well you can't report me because I'm going to report you!"
"No - I'm going to report you first!"
"Let's see who they believe more"
 
2021-01-27 9:53:17 AM  

waxbeans: 😂 WTF.
To get caught doing THIS. Means at some point in the past this person did this to a real child. Do we dig that up? Because we should.

/
I don't get how people don't get it. A real kid and you would not happen. And if it did. It would take a long time.
//
Or not?
I don't get it.
I can't even get age appropriate people to talk to me. And that's on a site specifically for talking to people. WTF?


Maybe cool it on the emojis so people don't know you're a 12-year-old girl?
 
2021-01-27 9:53:55 AM  

Barfmaker: The feds say he is a former trooper with Vermont State Police, and now works from home as a sales marketing manager.

Ah, yes, that very real job of Sales Marketing Manager...which is all about sales marketing.



It's a difficult job.  You need to manage the marketing of sales and the selling of markets, and then you also have to market sales management.  And don't get me started on selling the marketing of management.
 
2021-01-27 9:54:21 AM  
A couple of years ago my older brother's (in his 60s) best friend got arrested for attempting to meet a teenage girl in a hotel room with the parents.  Turned out he was talking to a cop the whole time.

My brother knew him his whole life they had been friends for 50 on years and he never had any idea.

It's so disturbing, and even worse like someone up there said, that so many parents are involved with pimping out their kids.
 
2021-01-27 9:54:36 AM  
I can understand why my scumbag cop submission was not green-lit.  So many scumbag cop stories, so little bandwidth.

https://www.nj.com/bergen/2021/01/pol​i​ce-officer-stole-drugs-from-prescripti​on-medicine-drop-box-at-station-prosec​utor-alleges.html
 
2021-01-27 9:54:46 AM  

keldaria: At first I was shocked that a cop (even a former cop) was going to face consequences for their actions. Then I remembered that nobody likes pedophiles.


It's because they are farking little ass holes.
 
2021-01-27 9:55:50 AM  

Fear the Clam: waxbeans: 😂 WTF.
To get caught doing THIS. Means at some point in the past this person did this to a real child. Do we dig that up? Because we should.

/
I don't get how people don't get it. A real kid and you would not happen. And if it did. It would take a long time.
//
Or not?
I don't get it.
I can't even get age appropriate people to talk to me. And that's on a site specifically for talking to people. WTF?

Maybe cool it on the emojis so people don't know you're a 12-year-old girl?


Hell, I wish.
It sucks having old man balls.
 
2021-01-27 9:56:33 AM  

waxbeans: SloppyFrenchKisser: [i.pinimg.com image 850x850]

Dress codes are bullshiat


And also irrelevant to any sex crime.
The way people dress is their business and a woman showing skin isn't "asking for it".

Some sick fark with weird ideas in this thread...
 
2021-01-27 9:58:26 AM  

steklo: Schmerd1948: Now it's "mommy needs a new pair of Manolo Blanco's."

I thought it was "mommy needs cash to get some meth, crack, smack", etc...


Nah, usually for that they just sell the kid outright. No backsies.
 
2021-01-27 9:58:42 AM  

Tomahawk513: aungen: [Fark user image 768x456]

That's just godd*mn hilarious.  Bravo!


I am just glad I cannot take credit for it. :)
 
2021-01-27 9:59:04 AM  

buntz: A couple of years ago my older brother's (in his 60s) best friend got arrested for attempting to meet a teenage girl in a hotel room with the parents.  Turned out he was talking to a cop the whole time.

My brother knew him his whole life they had been friends for 50 on years and he never had any idea.

It's so disturbing, and even worse like someone up there said, that so many parents are involved with pimping out their kids.


Some person once tired to sell me some woman on-line. I blocked that person. Because it could be a scam to rip me off. I don't get how people agree to crazy stuff. It could be anything. They could tie you up and rape you. Why risk it? Unless you are already a serial killer? I just have so many questions.
 
2021-01-27 9:59:40 AM  

Fissile: I can understand why my scumbag cop submission was not green-lit.  So many scumbag cop stories, so little bandwidth.

https://www.nj.com/bergen/2021/01/poli​ce-officer-stole-drugs-from-prescripti​on-medicine-drop-box-at-station-prosec​utor-alleges.html


Meh.
 
2021-01-27 10:00:15 AM  

Social Justice Warlock: waxbeans: SloppyFrenchKisser: [i.pinimg.com image 850x850]

Dress codes are bullshiat

And also irrelevant to any sex crime.
The way people dress is their business and a woman showing skin isn't "asking for it".

Some sick fark with weird ideas in this thread...


Word
 
2021-01-27 10:00:16 AM  

keldaria: At first I was shocked that a cop (even a former cop) was going to face consequences for their actions. Then I remembered that nobody likes pedophiles.


I can tell you aren't republican
 
2021-01-27 10:02:18 AM  
Why do all these men expect to meet a teen in an online chat room and then have sex with them immediately upon meeting in person?  Is that how online dating works for adults or teens or anybody really?  I mean are these chat rooms like Grindr or something?  I feel like these old pervs have unrealistic expectations.

I've been married a long time so the internet hasn't had an impact on my sex life since Friendster....
 
2021-01-27 10:02:45 AM  

vudukungfu: keldaria: At first I was shocked that a cop (even a former cop) was going to face consequences for their actions. Then I remembered that nobody likes pedophiles.

I can tell you aren't republican


I'm a moderate democrat... I'm told that qualifies as Republican on fark, was I lied to?
 
2021-01-27 10:04:12 AM  

Social Justice Warlock: waxbeans: SloppyFrenchKisser: [i.pinimg.com image 850x850]

Dress codes are bullshiat

And also irrelevant to any sex crime.
The way people dress is their business and a woman showing skin isn't "asking for it".

Some sick fark with weird ideas in this thread...


"Sure that baby was just born, but look at what it's wearing.  It's already got lotion, too."

/everybody sing the "You're going to die in jail,"' song!
 
2021-01-27 10:04:54 AM  
I could never be a cop that does this sort of thing.  Not because I'd be too creeped out-- no, I'd love to see these pervs get smacked, hard-- but because I could never make my texts or whatever grammatically bad enough to pass.  I'd just get too twitchy about typing 'u' instead of 'you', making half the message emojis, etc.
 
2021-01-27 10:05:09 AM  
So the cop hangs up the phone after making the arrangement.

"cool I am going to score tonight! YES!"

He's so happy, so excited, so pleased with himself. He's gonna get some!  He's ecstatic!

He takes a shower, puts on some aftershave, some clean clothes and heads on out to the house to meet his new girlfriend.

Then shows up and a dozen cops are there with guns and riffles drawn...

all at once they shout...

"Hi Thomas!"  Just like they did on Cheers with Norm.

Then it sinks in. In a matter of seconds his whole life has now turned into a crap basket. I wonder how many tears he cried at that moment. Not that he was a pedo but because he was caught and will never be able to go on a date again. Unless its in the prison showers with his new cell mates.
 
2021-01-27 10:05:11 AM  

kbronsito: My nephew's band teacher got busted for trying to solicit a teen girl online. Turned out to be a cop. Dude got busted on a Friday, my nephew is creeped out that the teacher spent all Thursday class constantly on his phone. Timeline does seem to suggest he was setting up his statutory rape date in a room full of middle schoolers. I can only imagine the girls in class (and their parents) are probably even more creeped out than my sister and her kiddo.


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2021-01-27 10:08:14 AM  
Oh how the mighty have fallen
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2021-01-27 10:10:14 AM  

kbronsito: My nephew's band teacher got busted for trying to solicit a teen girl online. Turned out to be a cop. Dude got busted on a Friday, my nephew is creeped out that the teacher spent all Thursday class constantly on his phone. Timeline does seem to suggest he was setting up his statutory rape date in a room full of middle schoolers. I can only imagine the girls in class (and their parents) are probably even more creeped out than my sister and her kiddo.


Working at Family Video in 2004, I knew what everyone in town watched, both movies and porn. Our hick town didn't get real broadband till 2009 or so. One young guy came in to rent two discs, gave his phone number and I scanned him out. He got Naughty Schoolgirls XIII and Harry Potter IV aka, the one where Hermione started to grow up.

His phone number was for the local Christian college, where odds are he was studying to become a youth pastor.
 
2021-01-27 10:11:59 AM  
waxbeans:
keldaria:
At first I was shocked that a cop (even a former cop) was going to face consequences for their actions. Then I remembered that nobody likes pedophiles.

It's because they are farking little ass holes.

Phrasing?  If intentional then LOL/gross!
 
2021-01-27 10:14:07 AM  
And there I thought this would be a feel-good sort of story about two cops posing as twelve year old girls forming an unlikely friendship online and when all is revealed in a cute way, they realize they actually do love each other and have a BFF-themed wedding.
 
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